"Heads HAVE To Roll!" - Lord Ed Vaizey Calls For Post Office Bosses To Face Prison After Scandal 

Lose her freedom for a couple of years.

Repay her wages back, I doubt it.

Them the entire board, non-exec directors, and their handlers. These people you can be certain are all under protection until public outrage fades which it will.

Rules for thee, but not for me....applies to all white collar crime in the UK

Funny how the Tories are doing something about it now there's a election coming

Yes it does.

This what Ford used to tell owners when their cambelts snapped..but had told dealers to change them early...also what Tesla is telling owners when their front suspension fails.

There's only one way a woman gets to be CEO of a big corporation like the Post Office & that's through a "man" - Yes Minister??? It didn't stop there - she was then put forward for a CBE - her "contribution" must have been "distinguished & innovative"! Follow the trail of who got Liz Truss to add Paula's name to the Honours List & you have your "man"!!!

I question the Post Office's Legal Authority to confine someone to a room and demand they answer questions. Not even the police can do that. There were a group of people in New York that used to go shop to shop demanding money from shop-owners, they were called the mafia.

His.

leave her with the CBE,she deserves to be in that club

Nobody cares about the CBE it's a distraction so the conversation stays away from jail time, organized crime, manslaughter etc.

@@SimonDeBelleme1 Majesty's.

Pendants rool KO.

And go to jail along with others.

JAIL

JAIL and fined, pension cancelled. Payback ALL their Wages !!!

What about the £400,000 payoff when she left?

@@leskerr9446 all money gained should be viewed like illegitimate gains. That computer was sending money to someone.

I question the Post Office's Legal Authority (Given the fact that it has come to light that the "Investigators" weren't even formally qualified) to confine someone to a room and demand they answer questions. Not even the police can do that. The police can ask questions, but you don't have to answer. Were they afforded legal representation. I bet not. There were a group of people in New York that used to go shop to shop demanding money from shop-owners, they were called the mafia.

yes ive even looked on the Uk website and as far as i can see there is no reason why they cant be It comes under "failier in duty of care" they were maliciously prosecuted despite the facts that the post office and fujitsu had and need to be prosecuted on all counts where suicides were the result max penalty is 20million per offence BTW

Yes. Good idea.

Agree, corporate manslaughter, hostile work environment,badgering, bullying, compensation is the minimum outcome. All these people with selective memories and total arrogance need to be held to account,heads need to roll and prison time needs to be applied, what happened to the sub postmasters is absolutely horrific.

I question the Post Office's Legal Authority (Given the fact that it has come to light that the "Investigators" weren't even formally qualified) to confine someone to a room and demand they answer questions. Not even the police can do that. The police can ask questions, but you don't have to answer. Were they afforded legal representation. I bet not. There were a group of people in New York that used to go shop to shop demanding money from shop-owners, they were called the mafia.

The serious fraud office made a case. Look up blue arrows, I think they got left off because one of the defendants had royal blood. Directors, politicians eg tony blair are let off scot-free. Maybe the results will be different this once.

perhaps those involved in grenfell and the cladding scandal should make a tv programme

​@@garyowen4112you know I was thinking about Grenfell when this story broke. The Executive Managers and CEOs of all organisations involved in both these scandals should go to prison....not one person will though

Yes, there should be it auditors who could investigate and still nothing had been done

Outrageous comment from JJ calling the public stupid. Ignorant remark which should have been challenged by the panel.

​@@raqueljo5799in a sense I get where he is coming from....look at who the public votes into office...and they keep repeating the mistakes every election!

Fujitsu actually carried out the theft. They had access to the postmaster’s accounts. The computer glitch story is a ruse, the theft is actually quite blatantly obvious!!

I question the Post Office's Legal Authority (Given the fact that it has come to light that the "Investigators" weren't even formally qualified) to confine someone to a room and demand they answer questions. Not even the police can do that. The police can ask questions, but you don't have to answer. Were they afforded legal representation. I bet not. There were a group of people in New York that used to go shop to shop demanding money from shop-owners, they were called the mafia.

There never was a day in history any of them ever faced consequences except during actual proper revolutions.

I question the Post Office's Legal Authority (Given the fact that it has come to light that the "Investigators" weren't even formally qualified) to confine someone to a room and demand they answer questions. Not even the police can do that. The police can ask questions, but you don't have to answer. Were they afforded legal representation. I bet not. There were a group of people in New York that used to go shop to shop demanding money from shop-owners, they were called the mafia.

At least initially to protect Blair politically would be my guess. It was one of his pet projects .. the DWP rejected it and said they wouldn't use it, it was already overdue and over budget, if the PO rejected it as well there would have been a lot of shouting and blame thrown around in the press and parliament about wasted money who's pet project it was and all that. I imagine he and the cabinet put pressure on the minister who had the PO in his portfolio to get the PO to hurry up and sign off on the project so he wouldn't have egg on his face over it failing, and that minister in turn put pressure on the PO management to sign off on and accept the system regardless of its condition. .. Ultimately this can probably all be traced back to Blair championing the project back in the 90s when his government commissioned it and gave the UK company Fujitsu later bought the contract .. Hmm 🤔 it might be interesting to know who owned that company back then, how much them having that contract influenced the Fujitsu decision to buy it, who profited from that, and if those who profited from the sale to Fujitsu had any connection to Blair or others in his government. Just a thought 😁 a contract like that would inflate a companies worth a fair bit I imagine, maybe someone can follow the money and tell us if this was corruption to line the pockets of someone in or close to government back then.

Agreed but the whole purpose of the system was to confirm PO suspicion that SPMs were on the fiddle. They got it all horribly wrong though.

" rules for thee, but not for me " applies here!

I question the Post Office's Legal Authority (Given the fact that it has come to light that the "Investigators" weren't even formally qualified) to confine someone to a room and demand they answer questions. Not even the police can do that. The police can ask questions, but you don't have to answer. Were they afforded legal representation. I bet not. There were a group of people in New York that used to go shop to shop demanding money from shop-owners, they were called the mafia.

The police did not prosecute. The post office has their own investigators and prosecutors that took the Post Masters to court and took their money.

For once you can't blame the police. They played no part in this.

You haven't mentioned " Computer Weekly" who broke the story and Allan Bates and Lord Arbuthnott who would not give in!

@@user-vv9dn1dk2uIf that is your primary concern then consider this - The Police are allegedly organised via intelligence gathering & assessment therefore the huge spike of acts criminal fraud emanating from postmasters etc should have been a 'red flag'. The fact that no constabulary initiatives emerged during the relevant period suggests that plod were 'behind the curve' to say the least. At worst, they were professionally incurious & blinkered - aka clueless & proud of it

@@paulgeddert6125 @user-vv9dn1dk2u If that is your primary concern then consider this - The Police are allegedly organised via intelligence gathering & assessment therefore the huge spike of acts criminal fraud emanating from postmasters etc should have been a 'red flag'. The fact that no constabulary initiatives emerged during the relevant period suggests that plod were 'behind the curve' to say the least. At worst, they were professionally incurious & blinkered - aka clueless & proud of it

No-one cares about these distractions.

@@kesamek8537 but it is a disgrace that they were awarded.

My brother in law sells IT systems to hospital trusts, universities, colleges and schools. He told me that NO system ever hits the ground running and also that the software engineers ALWAYS leave a back door into the system to easily install updates remotely...I just assumed that this was common knowledge!

Let's not forget Private Eye Magazine, who have been banging on about this since 2011!

I think you'll find Vennells wasn't awarded her CBE until 2019.

Or Computer Weekly - since 2009.@@frdavid1066

@@frdavid1066 And Computer Weekly.

John Sweeney is not exactly a paragon of honesty....have you seen the " Panodrama " documentary where he lied to stitch up Tommy Robinson?

I question the Post Office's Legal Authority (Given the fact that it has come to light that the "Investigators" weren't even formally qualified) to confine someone to a room and demand they answer questions. Not even the police can do that. The police can ask questions, but you don't have to answer. Were they afforded legal representation. I bet not. There were a group of people in New York that used to go shop to shop demanding money from shop-owners, they were called the mafia.

The Horizon scandal had (has) nothing to do with Starmer.

Yes it did, he was in charge of the CPP during this and could have stepped in during the private prosecutions, he is as guilty as Vennels and Davey

You don't mean "CPP". / But to answer your point:- Responsibility for oversight of the Post Office (and its prosecutions) lay not with Keir Starmer, but with those Government ministers who had statutory responsibility for the Post Office. Since 2010, all such Ministers have been Conservatives or Lib Dems. If it had been Starmer's responsibility, Alan Bates and his fellow SPMs would have said so. They have NOT said so. It is Tory and LibDem Governments which have allowed this scandal to fester and deepen for the last 13+ years.@@craigyjp

​@@craigyjpthey were private prosecutions, nowt to do with CPS. The PO had their own internal version.