Healing Magic vs Reflection Magic! | The Wrong Way to Use Healing Magic 

I don't mean to be *That Guy (tm),* but you put the wrong episode number in the description. This clip was episode 11, not 8.

Like they say, if brute force doesn't work, you're not using enough of it.

​@moteroargentino7944 write that down! Write that down!

I always believe that ma boi usato would be HIM. I mean that falcon punch later on was absolutely raw.

More like that hidden uneatable boss that you only fight once and then never fight again because it gave you PTSD.

He can punch u for hours with u getting hurt or losing stamina but u will feel the pain ( hours of end less pain )

CRAZY DIAMONND

DAMN! now that's a really great explanation of an experienced healing magic user!

What immortal do I remember who basically had that, Fushi?

​@@untitledmisou dang it I was gonna say that you beat me to the punch

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"Wait, so you are prolonging my pain ? Isn't that actually more cruel than just KOing me ?"

Yeah it's an old trope from Dungeos & Dragons to make healing spells hurt instead of heal

Was that a codement and Hellsing abridged reference!?😂

It's not automatic, it's voluntary. That's how she fooled both the first soldier that stabbed her, and later the heroes, by creating fake openings. That's also why when she fell unconscious the armor disappeared, because it's made of mana and like any spell it requires constant casting and concentration. It can be done subconsciously (like when Usato healed himself involuntarily during his training), but that's only while they're conscious. And the reason why the attacks couldn't reflected is because since it requires a voluntary command from the knight, there's a very small delay between the damage and it's reflection. Since Usato heals it instantly, by the time she tried to reflect the damage there was nothing to reflect.

don't worry minor spoiler the "healing punch" is on the way

If the clip ran 20 seconds longer, you'd have gotten your wish.

@@Loremastrful I saw the entire episode before posting. I still don’t think a healing punch is all that wrong. Redo of Healer buried the bar for that standard.

@@zeyez4961imagine a sword made entirely out of healing magic? hoping that would happen

Is funny how the other show is airing in the same cour too :P

You would if the literal embodiment of entropy told you to.

"You see demon....you aren't dealing with the average healer anymore."

Yess definitely

Healing magic can be dangerous in any fantasy setting but is often overlooked simply BECAUSE it's healing magic. For example, in some fantasies, it is actually the single most devastating magic against the undead and some spirit types. Or if a being is empowered by a curse and the healer uses a spell to remove curses? The biggest weakness of healing magic in combat is the lack of imagination of its users.

He’s not necessarily unstoppable though. He almost died against a giant snake earlier in the show

There are good reasons why it's recommended to take out the healer first in a party vs. party RPG battle.

Ehem, Redo of A Healer, using healing magic to turn back time.

@@Compucles Don't take out the healer, and you'll be striking down the same opponents again and again.

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Goated fight, love the Toaru series so much

Really? I love it so much and thought i was the only one

@@LNOTUE I absolutely love rose she's on my top marriage list with mirko and tomo

@@symbol_of_tributes6237 Marriage List?! LOL XD

The wrong way to use healing magic

It’s in the title

Not plot armor he's literally her natural enemy. She cannot reflect injury when the injury doesn't exist.

How the armor works is that it reflects any wounds Because he's coating himself with healing magic there's no wounds to reflect so in this instance its rendered useless

You can see the armor like someone who looks at the Knight HP bar. Knight would take a certain amount of damage->Damage is "calculated"-> Damage is negated-> Damage is reflectes. By using his physical power he punches right through the armor. But he instantly heals the damage he would deal with his punch. The Armor has now literally no damage to reflect back to him. All that remains is the pain from the punch he just healed. He basicaly K.Os you from the pain of a wound you no longer have.

No I mean I get how it counters the reflection effect, I agree with you two, but my guy still got stabbed through the hand with a pretty sizeable stake. It physically went through, not around nor was it a ghost, yet didn't make a hole. And it became liquid and flopped on the floor!

The knight reflects damage that’s done to them. But Usato is essentially healing the both of them at the same time but not necessarily nullifying the pain. So whenever he punches her he’s causing her pain but not damaging her in any way. Basically to counter her reflection he heals the wounds but not the pain they cause. In turn he doesn’t get hurt himself but can still dish out attacks

@@____Carnage____That still doesn't explain why the *armor* melts and later gets destroyed directly from his healing magic. No damage to either side means that the armor shouldn't be taking any damage, either. As for his hand, we can assume he simply healed it while it was still impaled, thus pushing the armor material to either side. It still doesn't explain why that caused it to melt, though.

Pain is a signal that the nerves send to the brain to let you know something is wrong. This signal travels from the nerve to the brain and back. If you are healed as you get hurt that pain signal is still send to the brain. Actually since you are healed as soon as you get hurt the brain probably won't be able to comprehend what happened so you'll still feel the pain. That's what I think happened to the demon.

Even though his punch is not dealing any damage her body will still feel the pain and damage it caused.

Pain doesn’t necessarily go away the moment you’re healed. In fact it tends to be the opposite if you’re in a serious accident. I remember reading that people who break their femurs usually do so in a bad accident like a car crash. So their adrenaline is pumping and nullifying the pain. But when they get to the hospital and undergo treatment that adrenaline wears off and they feel excruciating pain even when they’re patched up. They have to be given pain killers but even then it’s still extremely painful. There’s not really much to do other than waiting it out Now apply that here. Imagine feeling the pain of getting punched really hard but then it’s healed immediately. The wound may be healed but pain tends to last longer

Simba: Ow! Why'd you do that?! Rafiki: It doesn't matter! I just healed you. Simba: Yeah, but it still hurts.

@@____Carnage____ is it tho? during usato's training rose kicks him to oblivion, he holds his but in pain, unknowingly activates healing magic and says "wow, it doesn't hurt anymore!" so obviously his magic heals the pain as well. so it is hard to apply that here. if he heals the target instantly that there is no damage left after punch, considering the magic's properties she must feel like she was hit with a fluffy brush. no matter how deep i think i can't think that it afflicts pain.

Basically, the Dark Knight magic reflects what would be wounds on the user, so if you stab her shoulder, she can reflect the damage and be like you stabbing yourself, meanwhile, Usato in the other hand, coats himself and his attack on healing magic, the effect of this causes both of their magics canceling each other out, basically, Usato with his attacks causes no wounds or injuries, even healing you, but you still feel the pain of the impact, kinda super brutal if you think it through, given how the brain still perceives teh damage even if physically there is none

Ever watch mashle

Hell yeah n if u love strong women that his teacher

It's so bad that you have to find it, comment on it and provide zero context. Yeah winner reviewer right here. Your entitled to your own opinions for sure, but what you did is more being a fool than offering insight into art.

@@MexiSword yup I found it. It’s not like RU-vid recommended it to me. And yes I can comment whatever I want it’s free estate now go on and live your life