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Hello, I love your channel and everything but you are VERY WRONG when it comes to being an RD.. dietetics is a very immense field where we can work pretty much any where!! (Food service and renal dietitians have the most competitive salaries around the high 60s-70k a year) & I understand we dont start out as much as a nurse with their bachelors degree, but after atleast a years worth of experiences outside the internship, salary becomes very competitive!! We also have a VERY easy time moving into management and we can also get various specialty certifications that boost our careers as well. Also, being an RD isn't soo stressful, we have a high career satisfaction rating and it's a very interesting career and the hours are very flexible, which means you can still have a LIFE. I also follow numerous dietitians that have been in this field for YEARS and give advice about the field and they f'n LOVE IT!! We DONT deserve an F. More so a C+ because our field is still growing.. fast.. literally a year ago our salary median was in the high 50s.. and its STILL growing!!! Were also expanding the places we can work for.. even with pharmaceutical sales!! Also, I have family and friends that work as dental assistants and you can literally become one from a 12 week program, and get out actually making a living wage. They also enjoy their careers as well.. I just wanted to throw that out there. Thank you for sharing your opinion, but I'm gunna have to disagree on some factors!!!! Money isn't everything!! I've known people in that high tier list that make ALOT, but aren't as happy and can't find time to even enjoy their salaries, but I guess it's all about balance sometimes!! Thanks again for sharing, but I just had to say something so I can further introduce you to some research I've done and some first hand experiences I've had!!!
I just switched from Pre-Med to Pre-PA and I am super excited! I feel like I’ve finally found my calling. Watching this video made me feel very reassured, so thank you!
@@tiffanyvelasquez4062I haven't worked as an MT since 1989, and I don't miss it at all. I'm sure a lot has changed technology-wise, but being under-appreciated will continue until there's a critical shortage of people willing (and capable) to do the work.
When you are putting the images on the tier, can you put the names up instead of pictures? I feel like it's hard to remember what each picture represents.
Thank you for your brutally honest videos, because honesty helps to kill delusion and grandeur and help people realistically consider profitable career options! I myself personally am gearing into becoming dental hygienist, thanks!
@@ShaneHummus love NP s as well I’m in nursing school but will go for my np...we were told that we have to get the doctorate now to be an np is this true?
This is not related to this video in particular but THANK YOU for compiling all of this information. I've been down a rabbit hole doing all this research on my own when I stumbled across your channel.
Where are my medical lab scientists/techs? I know we're behind the scene but our work is very much needed. We're are also medical/health science degree too.
My sister keeps asking why I don’t want to be a medical doctor.. I should just show her this video instead of me explaining over and over again why I don’t want to be stuck in one specialty, have to be on call, and have to go through the anxiety of becoming a doctor. A medical doctor has to go through under grad then apply to med school then hope to god to get their desired match in residency. The way to go is direct admit nursing (right from highschool to nursing) then NP school.
Although the salary is important, the amount of money it takes to enter all of these professions need to be looked into more. For example, physical therapists often owe around 150k and have a starting salary of less than 70k.
I want to become a PT, and I’m still confused as to whether or not is a good career or if it’s worth it i have also heard is not on demand anymore. It honestly breaks my heart, because as much as I want to do it the money factor is still important... I live in a big city and I want to live comfortably, not drown in debt.
@@CH-vi7uu I am a PT, i Graduated with 175k in debt and made around 75k out of school in southern California. I had a pretty easy time finding work after i graduated. There are plenty of jobs, but insurance companies keep cutting payments and are making it more difficult. There is not much growth in terms of pay unless you own a clinic, or market yourself enough to do cash based pay. The job is fun, but pay isn't that great.
hi Shane, I would LOVE to see a video regarding your knowledge on pharmacy and how market saturation affects the future outlook of the career. I'm a first year in university considering pharmacy but I'm skeptical after learning about the difficulties of landing a job post grad, so this would be very helpful.
That's something that's super disappointing about being a doctor though. I still plan on going to med school, but I'm surprised nothing's been done about the conditions yet and how overworked many doctors are considering how important of a career it is. Fatigue is real and we already know it can impair judgement to same degree that being drunk does, we have evidence that fatigue leads to potentially deadly mistakes in the medical field, so why are we still expecting doctors to do their jobs well on little to sleep? Reasonable hours means that doctors can better treat their patients.
It’ll get better with the influx of PAs and NPs to lessen doctors work loads. The cold truth is being a doctor takes a strong combination of skills that like only 5% of the world population has.
I think they should lower the requirments instead. Let more people be doctors and make the degree cheaper (probably around the same cost as the engineering degrees) and have lower requirments (lets have top 10% instead of top 0.1%) going on right now for people to get in. Normal workers could probs do a better job than fatigued hardworkers.
Decided to rewatch the list. Be verrrry careful with Sonography. 98% of those people end up with MK injuries even practicing good ergonomics, exercise, taking care of themselves. Theres a reason why the profession has good pay for only 2 yrs of school. I have met seasoned sonographers who said they all have something and I have a friend whose only been doing it for 2 yrs and got a shoulder injury. They dont just scan pregnant bellies they have to also dig that camera thing into 200-300lb patients' bellies to look for abnormalities constantly. It also goes into cavities and the angle fucks up peoples hands and theres not really a way avoid it cause every patients body is different. Be warned!!
I'm finishing up my degree in Nutrition and Dietetics right now. Your brief analysis was pretty accurate. It seems like the road is pretty long to get off the ground. Even though there is a great need for it due to the high rate of NCDs in most developing countries, the pay doesn't match up with the perceived need. So I'm watching this video and seeing how I can possibly increase my job opportunities. Thanks for putting this content out there. I really appreciate it!
As a SLP grad student, most of our graduate training is very much like nursing where our second part of schooling is heavily clinical based to get the clinical hours required for our certification. You didn't mention Audiology. Also SLPs do so much more than just speech therapy. We work with everyone from birth to those who are geriatric. And within two years we can grow our salaries closer to 90k 😊
I think Dentist and medical doctor belongs on A tier at the very least. Dentists usually have the flexibility to set their own hours and make much more than 150k, and that’s not including specialists where just salaries and not even practice owners can reach 500k for some of them. On the other hand m.d. is much more complicated to classify, you can make 7 figures in some specialties and in others low 6 figures. Hours can be minimal or high. And the salaries u can potentially make may offset the opportunity cost depending on specialty. I think m.d. should also be A rank just because it has the highest potential than any other profession on the list but it also has problems.
Agreed. MD is flexible and dependent on your specialty also you are usually the leader of a medical team or can open your practice. PAs cants. NPs in most states need physician supervision
I’m gonna have to disagree I think an MD is one of the least flexible careers out there IMO I don’t think it’s A tier More like C or D but that’s just my opinion
I'm a HS senior currently suffering from what I should do with my major (Psychology). I was thinking to go to a pre-med track and become a psychiatrist, but I have changed my mind to pre-health track and become either an OT or an OTA. I'm a little unfamiliar with health careers as I'm not the most fluent in English, but what OTs/OTAs do is probably what I want to do than medical doctors.
A dentist who own a practice is definitely an A or even S tier. My dentist told me he makes 800k annually when I shadowed him, he has a pretty average practice in central Florida
As an RPh, I think that pharmacist should be lower. 3 out of 5 jobs are retail, and that sector continues to consolidate and become more efficient (fewer jobs). It's also much easier to get into pharmacy school than it used to be. Salaries are starting to decline. We really need a path to something like a PA or NP since that is where the demand is.
I’ve just gotten admitted to med school👏🏻 I was considering pursuing a career as physician assistant, unfortunately PA’s and nurses in general are underpaid where I live. Especially compared to doctors.
As a dentist, I would agree with B tier, and I would also agree with dental hygienists as an A tier. But I disagree with putting physicians above dentists. Dentists do have a lot of debt, but if youre in private practice, you can realistically pull in 200k+ if you play your cards right, which can easily be more than a physician. I personally have never met a dentist who is still paying off loans in their late 30s, maybe if the started dental school at 30 but thats pretty rare. Most people can pay off loans in 6-8 years. Plus, dentists don't have a required residency program like physicians do, so dentists can start paying off student loans once they graduate. Not to mention, dentists have much more autonomy than physicians, and it is much easier to schedule time off/vacation time. Of course, its more hands on work, which can be good or bad depending on your personality. I have numerous friends who are physicians, and some of them told me they wished they went the dental route instead.
PTA and OTA are very missunderstood professions. A PTA does not "help" a PT. Starting salary for both of them is around 60,000 per year, although it largely depends on where you live. Also most of these 2 year degrees will take 3 to 4 years because you need to take prerequisites (eg. Anatomy and physiology, statistics, college algebra, etc.) before you can even apply to a program. Great video!
Hi, just wanted to mention that optometry school is 4 years and you can do an optional ~1 year residency if you choose to do so. Otherwise, you can start practicing right out of school if you choose to do so. I've never heard of the journey taking 8 years, but if it is a thing, it happens way less frequently compared to what I said earlier, or at least talked about less frequently. Overall, cool video!
Thank-you! You're videos are very helpful! I would love if you would do a video ranking the best 2 year degrees (particularly in the health and science areas). I know you already went over some of them, but it would be amazing if the two year vs. like six degrees were separated since they are pretty different in terms of commitment and finances. I'm very interesting in going into the health area and I'm watching lots of your videos so I can hopefully make more educated decisions. :)
knowing what works in the market can tell you about skills you need to learn, also these tier lists are v informative and entertaining especially if you want to start a business
FINALLY I’ve been wanting to see information like this, I’m going to a 4 year college and I’ve been wanting to aim to get my masters in a medical profession but also work in the health industry as I’m getting it.
If I can give some advice, apply to a hospital or medical facility in any position and start networking. Most will promote from within and offer tuition assistance/reimbursement if you go for a healthcare related degree. I got my bachelor’s in health information management and working on a master’s of public health and I’ve been at my hospital for over 30 years. It’s what I recommend for everyone.
@@alec5779 I'm in nursing school and it is very hard, but there's harder things than nursing school. I think CRNA (Nurse Anesthetist) school is one of the hardest schooling paths, other than medical school.
I'm an Optometrist and it's a rewarding profession. I honestly think MD should be on A tier considering the salary and growth pathways. Thank you for your videos
Becoming a RN only requires 2 years. 4 years is only necessary if you want to go into administration or teaching or become a company nurse, public school nurse, etc.
Have you ever heard about military scholarships like the Air Force's HPSP? It pretty much grants free dental school (or med school) for any applicants that are accepted, with one stipulation being that admission into a school is required before applying. I've been looking into it myself because I'm aspiring to become dentist and noticed the hefty fee that you talked about. Great video, this helped me a lot!
Objectively if you look at dietetics that way it might rank low. I don’t blame you for putting it down there. I do believe that before studying nutrition, it is important to know what you want to do. Like go into clinical, community, food service, culinary, outpatient, private practice and what specialty you want to do. It is a very diverse career field. The more specialized you are the more money you make. We also take the same classes as doctors, pharmacists and nurses so going to grad school is easy because you have the prerequisites. A lot of RDs go to PA school. I am not saying that it is perfect and I have my issues with the field. I do think the most stressful part of my job is the disrespect we get from other health professionals who think all we do is tell people to eat vegetables, people who want nutrition advice for free and having to justify my career all the time. Great video btw
Preach. Soon, this field will require an MS. We get very little respect in healthcare. Other subsets think all we talk about is healthy eating for obesity management, and I'm like, we do, but what happens when the patient can't eat. Who do you think calculates their needs for Tubefeeds and TPN? Oh, others think they can, but when they try, we always have to correct the orders. So many diseases require dietary management or risk death, diabetes, esrd, chf, end stage hepatic disease, dysphagia, etc.... Go in the patients room for an assessment, and nurses yell at me about not having enough Ms. Dash with the last meal. SMH. No respect and low pay.
I would say PTAs are more in A tier next to physical therapists because their median pay is actually $58,000. The reason it says $48,000 is because the BLS combines their pay with the PT Aides, which make much less. If you look a little deeper you can actually see it’s $58,000 for PTAs. You can see the same happens for OTAs too. Overall, great video! I just thought I point that out.
Great suggestion! but let me leave you with this for now. "Top 10 Science Degrees (Best Science Majors)" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mYovfBbum9g.html&t
Physical Therapists only make $3k more on average than occupational therapists and you have to get a doctorate to be a PT but you ranked them above Occupational therapy? that’s confusing
As someone who is soon to be graduating nursing school and hoping to enter a nurse practitioner or nurse anesthetist program, this is music to my ears haha
Hi! I've been binge watching your videos but sadly there hasn't been a single mention about the two degrees that I've been trying to find some insight on. Those being public administration and geography (especially human, cultural and urban geography). Have you thought about making a tier list video for social sciences (as in sociology, social psychology, political science, public administration... basically careers having to do with society)?
Hi I have an MPA Degree. I regret it because I couldn’t get a job in that field since most places wanted experience. AFTER graduation I discovered that a number of schools had a MPA/MSW dual program. If I had the opportunity to do it again I would do the dual program. Hope my opinion helps.
Just some info if anyone is planning on going into dietetics/nutrition. First i loved it. Its a fun program to go through and its super interesting. But Shane is totally right about the fact that you don't get paid a lot for the amount of school you have to go through. And now the requirements to be a dietitian are changing soon so that you have to have a masters degree to become one. Also the internship process is a joke. Unlike other programs like nursing where you do your clinicals while working on your degree you have to have an APPROVED internship meaning one that is on the approved list through the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics (AND). You can just go to some random hospital and get one. Also there are not enough internship slots for the number of students there are so its extremely competitive. So if you have anything less than a 3.4 GPA you have no chance of getting one. It's all in the hands of those you apply to. I've known people that have had their bachelors for 2-4 years before getting their internship. Oh and not to mention they are NOT paid but you have to pay your own way which includes room and board. That's on top of all the application fees you have to pay would could be hundreds or even over a thousand dollars at times. So if you don't get an internship you're only two options are either get your masters to raise your GPA and try applying for an internship again or go into another field and being stuck with a dietetics degree you can't use. I'm in no way trying to discourage anyone from doing it. There are plenty of dietetics jobs out there and its a fun and fulfilling field but the process of becoming a dietitian is messed up and the AND is scrambling to figure out how to fix it. You can actually google the stats for each year of dietetics graduates that do and don't get accepted into an internship. I loved going through the dietetics program but knowing what I know now I would have gone into nursing instead which is what I'm doing now. Sorry this is so long but I hope this is informative.
Not all doctors work 60 to 80 hours a week making life and death decisions. I work ~40 hours a week, low stress environment, make a very comfortable living.
A career as a debtist is a dead end street... the reason is that dental insurances have very limited benefits and co-pays are high unless you have a "Cadillac" policy that covers all fees! In other words, most folks can't afford the high cost of quality dental care!
I'm here because I work on the ambulance and I work 2 jobs(72-96h)to get by. I can't live long like this- working this type of job, with so many hours , for so little pay. can't sleep. My body hurts. 48 and 72 hour shifts. Trying to find a new career to get into. Make some frickin big boy money- not peanuts. some regular hours. Not have to work year round. some time to travel the world
I'm in the middle of my Nurse Practitioner program in psych! Sweet!! I had other nurses scoffing that they can make the same as an NP by just overworking themselves!! Lol
My youngest girl is thinking about radiologist, she thought about dentist or a er doctor too. Basically she's still undecided. She can get a scholarship where we live. But she doesn't want to study 7 years 😅😕
Please make an Information Technology tier list and discuss different fields like software engineering, web development, cryptography, AI, security, database management...
I’m so glad I’ve just changed one of my a levels from chemistry to geography, I’m now doing biology, geography and sociology. I was only really taking chemistry to do pharmacy at university, however after much research I figured that for starters pharmacy is a profession that’s not to great to go into anymore and also it is honestly quite boring to be a pharmacist considering what the actual role entails. Many thanks for this Shane Hummus!
Shane Hummus - The Success GPS can you please make a video on pharmacy?... your experience and everything. I want to do pharmacy but I’m having second thoughts.. and also how did that girl got her degree in 4 years?! that’s amazing!! pleaseee help
Hey Shane, love your videos! I was wondering if you could do a video focusing on Pharmacy specifically. Like is becoming a Pharmacy Technician a good choice before going into the Pharmacy degree?
@Elizabeth M jobs are on decline. People are getting sacked. They’re being slowly automated. There’s a -1% job growth for the next 10 years. Do it at your own risk
I wish I was super extroverted. I shrivel up back into a shell too much. Not because I’m shy but because I lose interest in a lot of things so fast at the most random times. For example; I don’t know how to pretend to enjoy a conversation. When I’m bored, you would know which is bad if I’m doing an interview or something.
I used to watch I'm Shmacked videos to decide what college to go to. Now that I'm going back to school and have finally matured, I'm watching Shane's tier lists to help pick my major
I believe it’s worth it to go for those medical doctor degrees disregarding the debt because honestly, technologist in general cannot function without those trained professionals who went to years and years of school and experiences within the field. Plus, being a doctor is a great achievement because I doubt anyone would actually be a doctor. No offense but a lot of people want to do other majors like buisness and nursing, not saying that it’s bad or anything, but we need more doctors in the US especially with the future epidemics. My cousin is entering his fellowship as a surgeon and my sister who is a nuse practitioner wouldnt even dare to go to Medical school because of all the tough stress and high GPA to get into those schools. Also, the classes are extremely difficult too. The amount of science classes that they have to take compared to nursing, dental hygiene, etc are astronomical. These people need more respect in the communities because they are risking their lives getting sued and responsible for their own mistakes, and live in high tensions every time they perform a surgery. And doctors could specialize in anything. I dont think anybody would do eye surgery as an easy career. It takes a MD and people take advantage of these laser eye surgery. It’s so tough to have that enduring mindset and the pay does make up for the investment for being in that school. Respect ✊ for all doctors.
Respiratory Therapist belongs on A tier. A nurse may have 1 - 3 patients assigned but an RRT may have a dozen, all requiring individual care and treatments. In the recent pandemic, it wasn't just the nurses that were key players!
I’ve been a nurse for over 25 years. My hats off to RTs you guys do hard work and I’m glad to see you but Where do we have 1-3 patients? You Must mean icu where the nurse has to care for critically ill patients head to toe and all the body systems. Otherwise I have never encountered a nurse having 3 patients. Show me that job and I’m applying.
Doctor is more D/F tier. The medical students with the highest grades often go into the "lifestyle" specialties, but the average doctor is going to spend 60-80 hrs stressed out for the rest of their life.
@@ShaneHummus If you do a part 2 can you add pathologist assistant on the list I'm kind of curious on where you would place it on the list. Also great list and I enjoy your videos a lot keep up the great work!
My personal anecdote, for what it’s worth. I will graduate dental school with almost no debt and expect to earn >250k/year as a new grad (I’ve received more than one job offer with compensation structured accordingly).
I am a Sonographer (Cardiovascular Specialty) and I can tell you right now you get much more than that chart suggest. But it all depends on which state you are living in. I live in South Florida.
I would like to argue years later that nutrition deserves a somewhat higher tier due to more remote options and more options overall from government to research to consulting to private practice
Physical therapist is not an A tier. The amount of debt you have to take out to go to school is ridiculous, it can sometimes reach 200,000 dollars. The average starting pay for a new grad is roughly 60 grand. Physical therapist is C/D tier.
This is absolutely the worst case scenario. Going to a private PT school with debt from undergrad plus working in a rural OP clinic is the one circumstance I can see causing this situation. Taking my personal circumstance, I'll be graduating with about 100k in debt and in the area I will work in, I can expect a starting salary ranging from 85-90k. PT salaries and debt are highly dependent on which school you attended plus which health setting/geographical location you work in. 60k per year as based on the BLS (www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes291123.htm#st) is the bottom 10% salary.
pspdudue23 I doubt your getting 90k as a new grad. You have to work about 3-5 years before they give you that which is the problem. Inexperienced PT won’t start off at 90 k. But you are right the amount of debt is dependent on what school you go to but DPT school tuitions are steady rising due to how popular the career field is becoming.
@@plain48 It all depends on location. I've heard of some new grads getting a starting salary of six figures, though again this would only be possible in highest paying states such as NV or CA, and likewise the setting within that state. I don't think it would be difficult to negotiate 90-100k in an inpatient / SNF / HH setting in those states as a new grad.