Health secretary Wes Streeting gives speech on future of health and social care - watch live 

how do you figure that?

It's easy when there is little disagreement between the 2 tory party's like. only have to be competently evil to be a technical improvement

​@@Steven-ly9ei If you can't tell the difference by now, it's hopeless

@noahderrington5156-----Streeting is not a grown up, more a schoolboy way out of his depth

​@@Steven-ly9ei zzz. cliches. it's not 1997. what he is proposing is nothing like Blair's policy making. This is new thinking, and I think it will work, given time.

What do you mean??

Get the WI stalls back.

Sarcasm is strong here.

Have nothing to add, just want a notification when someone answers this.....

@@Steven-ly9ei it seems an obvious question doesn't it? It certainly didn't work when a huge number of nurses left the NHS to work for agencies because the agencies paid more. Then the agencies started filling the gaps caused by the nurses leaving and charged a lot more to cover the higher nurses pay plus their own charges so they could make profits. How is that more cost effective than just paying the nurses what the agencies were paying? It makes no sense

I work in private sector health care. We have the same contract as our hospital equivalent and have to meet the same standards, but because we consider finances, we are much more efficient and can thus see more patients per clinic

I believe it is compelling private sector capacity to help in order to clear the backlogs, you're right long term it seems expensive so will see how much private sector input we get long-term. But the cost of using private sector to clear waiting lists seems sensible compared with the costs related to delaying care to people (both morally and money wise)

A lot of people that work in the NHS effectively contribute nothing, at huge cost. The private sector does not allow for this

You think so your delusional 😂😂

that would obviously be great, I just don't think its possible or would work. I think you would just end up with a cigarette alcohol situation where you just get more tax and no change in supply and demand. but, you could tax fast food, unhealthy food, oil, sugar (depends), junk food - to the extend where, you make it unaffordable for 50% of the population

Well said

I left the England for ROI ten years ago. I am almost tempted to return now but I do like being in the EU I have to say and a pension increase.

Hi catlady ( i'm a cat lover too) yes he is actually talking sense..and he has the passion and drive with it 👍🐈‍⬛

@@bosvigos9165 With respect. they've only been in power a few days lets not get ahead of ourselves

​@@bosvigos9165 ROI are up in arms about illegal immigration, EU are not doing much for you are they. The only thing you have going for you is you are a Republic and not stuck with the dreary unelected Royals.

What, so they end up at pensionable age still paying off student debt? That's not a solution. Higher education should be free as the government gets more tax receipts from graduates over the lifetime of the students

@@mypointofview1111 The loan gets written off after 30-40 years anyway. The time period shouldn't freeze, just the payments. I don't agree with the debt in the first place, but this may be a start.

He doesn't misunderstand, he's deliberately mischaracterizing things so that he can make anyone who has any opposition to him or his policy seem illogical.

@@Jmcinally94 agreed

Do not underestimate how much the tories have salted the earth. They have damaged the economy, built up huge debts, and ensured that most of our services are dysfunctional. It isn't easy to follow people that deliberately break everything.

And we are relieved, because for a while there it seemed the nightmare would never end

@@jan2000nl Yes, but it’s the same old talk about ‘economic growth’ in the NHS and social care - so, continuing marketisation and privatisation… Not to mention ‘getting people back to work’ - so, continuing harrassment and demonisation of the sick and disabled. I was happy to see the back of the Tories (though sickened to see the number of their voters who’ve turn to those far-right grifters Reform) but it seems like more of the same neoliberal nonsense from Labour…

Your the example of how the Tories wanted to privatise the NHS by stealth

@@sanchezz4387 maybe so. However, now the Labour Party want to and I can afford to pay so I don’t mind. I would mind if I couldn’t ! If you can’t afford it, sir/madam I really don’t mind my hard earned taxes paying for you. The nhs is in crisis, the likes of which it’s never seen, since Bevan. Those who can afford to, need to help others less fortunate and bring it out of crisis. It is not sustainable in its current form. Reality hurts! You can’t bury your head in the sand

And preventative care creates a healthier and therefore more productive work force. Like it's a big d'uh, but one that constantly eludes conservatives.

Why go back to work when they cut your benefits? There is no incentive.

@@WedgeOfSpiteit’s amazing how implementing common sense is so much more effective that just spouting ‘common sense’ slogans

@@chester6343what?

@@chester6343what?

There are Far more managers than those actually doing the work. The never ending targets and bullying and stress is too much. No wonder so many quit after the pandemic

That’s a writing on the wall, which is easily ignored. They cost a fortune. Give the power back in the hands of doctors with a management course. They are more intelligent having spent years in training and gaining skills compared to managers who do not have management qualifications.

What

@@kingoftheseamusic Yep! Oh, and continuing harrassment of the sick and disabled to ‘get back to work’.

you're listening to a politician - and a Left wing one even at that - why would you expect any sort of thing other than vague platitudes? I suspect by the time this lot leave the NHS wil be the least of our problems

Who’s money?

It's the Bank of England's money, of which we have an unlimited amount. Currency sovereign nations like the UK issue new money when we need it. Taxes are levied (and gilts sold) after-the-fact as an inflation reduction mechanism. How much inflation, if any, will that spending generate? We don't bother to figure that out. We just match what we take out with what we put in. It's the lazy way.

There is no money. Tories blew 131 billion of our money on themselves

they do teach about nutrition at school. people eat badly for a lot of reasons - feeling low, lacking money etc

… doctors have been doing their own letters for more than a decade … often in their own time after a busy day in clinics and theatre … plus don’t forget the 100s of hours many give in their own time to preparing specialist exams for the Royal Colleges and all for free

@@kendalley2314 I went for a job interview at the NHS and they said Docs are not allowed to transcribe into MS Word. Something about they must use a system called Big Hand desptie protest of duplication of work and how long it takes to audio type with tape only. It really is a no brainer to record and transicribe straight to MS Word if Doctors are going to make a recording anyway.

Using any technology opens things up to vulnerability, but you can mitigate risk. What are we going to do, continue with pencils and paper for the rest of our lives? I can't even tell you how many apts I've heard people go to only to find out they were cancelled and should have been contacted, or the Doctors didn't have their notes so they got turned away. It feels like every hospital, surgery, region has their own decades old IT system with no cohesion. This is necessary. What isn't is all the private health investment that Streeting plans to use our taxes for.

Better than the mishmash of antiquated systems currently in place. Fax machines.. ffs!

It has to be said what I want from a government minister, is looking at problem, planning to solve the problem then working to solve the problem. Day 5 I think is still investigating the problem

I heard more from him than i have in the last 14 years though, from those that let thousands die while starving kids during a pandemic. Just saying

Exactly. He's been in the job for one and a half days. Why isn't everything fixed yet ?

That seems like a big ask after 5 days in the job. Maybe give him the opportunity to get into the details rather than criticising him for giving a general overview?

How much do you think someone can expand on in one interview? A few days after taking power? Is the point of it to literally go into fine detail about who talks to who,, are you serious?! Christ's sake, give it time. Sure, we know that prevention makes countries like Cuba super successful in health. But when have we had anyone in this country actually frontline that in policy making? It can change the entire way the NHS works. It's a paradigm shift. Lifestyle stuff - some of that is personal choice. Some of it can be helped by education and access to resources. Some of it by addressing pollution. Some of it can be helped by reframing the country as a positive environment where everyone is respected and valued, where there is hope, where there is a new set of parameters defining national pride. I see the seeds of all of this in the early words of this government. The biggest impediment to it at the moment is this incessant cynicism and insistence on trying to predict the future based on the past.

Most yes. There are many people waiting for treatment.

@@moomin7461 yes I agree, it just sounded a little like recent sick note culture talk. Give me time I'm still trying to detox from the last fourteen years.

"Labour would use private providers to reduce NHS wait times" Jan 2022 "NHS should 'seek to use' private healthcare capacity" Mar 2024 Now there's no new funding until NHS 'reform'. I agree there are issues, but not funding the public sector doesn't tend to lead to better outcomes. You can fix systemic issues WHILST reversing austerity. Labour's unwillingness to borrow to invest is only going to carry on the Tory legacy of claiming the public is not fit for purpose (because it's underfunded) as an excuse to privatise further. They'll be slick about it, it will happen in the background because it's terrible for optics. But those donations weren't for nothing. Maybe I'm a "middle class lefty" for calling that out though.

He doesn't have that ambition. Pay attention!

Europe has a similar system to what Streeting is proposing. At least the short term. The UK and especially England does have a lot of free capacity in the private sector which we can be using to reduce waiting times, and use this bought time to make long-term reforms to NHS.

He's actually rolled back many of his propositions for private sector reform in the NHS

​@inbb510 we could also just abolish the cancer which is private health care. Litrerally life for profit. It's not like that capacity vanishes. If we employ the doctors. And buy (or just sieze) the property. That is now NHS capacity. away from the scumbags who find a way to sleep at night, honestly more impressed by that. Than their so called accomplishments

And you trusted the Tories????? As a Nurse with NHS service since 1973.....I can tell you....WE DONT!!!

Sorry Jacqueline, could you expand on your views. What are you trying to say here?

Wes Streeting doesn't work for The Guardian

the guardian controls what Streeting says? You sound confused.

It wasn’t a Guardian event.

Irony rolled over and died

He's already said the NHS needs to be using the private sector more, so expect more stealth privatisation, slowly selling off services following the Tory legacy.

"big pharma" bro you might want some American soap opera, but it really doesn't exist here

First thing ....get the waiting list down which gets people back to work quicker and gets more taxes into the treasury....that in turn gives more money for investment .....it's a positive change of the wheel and it's quite simple

As my Mum used to say 'Well you're hearing it behind now'.

What's wrong with what he said so far?

There are some obsessives on the subject of WHO/WEF.

@@DrAshaphim He didn't say anything. Just the usual vague platitudes. Meaningless word salad said by countless politicians before.

​@@heliotropezzz333 wait till 2030 you will find out 😂

@@lmr3639 He said more than Victoria Atkins said in the last 6 months, at least he identified actual problems like tech, and it's negotiating immediately. Let's just see how it goes.

Your numbers are gonna increase to some extend just because COVID pandemic is over, that's all "you" can do.

Aside from numbers, you won't solve neither waiting lists, nor immigrants crisis.

You need education for that but you think all the doctors do is playing with skeletons and that you can.

If he settles the junior doctors strike that will be a big help but he will hardly have detailed plans ready in the first week of entering office and seeing the books. He has talked elsewhere about shifting more funds into primary care (a specific number more GP appointments available but I can't remember the number), working more towards preventative care, increasing GP appointments, improving mental health services.

I bet you £5 it will.

@@heliotropezzz333 Name 5 things that will have changed.

i guess you much prefer the country to fail than be proved wrong.

How do you expect 14 years of corruption to get solved in a year? Be realistic

​@@gtsekarI wonder how many years Labour will be blaming the Tories, rather than taking responsibility for their own failings.

You have an OFF button

​@@johnhughes2113does Streeting have an off button 🤔

​@@johnhughes2113thank you for reminding me. I stopped watching half way through

He's said they're doubling the number of MRI scanners that use AI to facilitate faster diagnosis and updating the I.T. systems that are thirty years out of date is going to improve productivity within the NHS to drastically reduce waiting times. Improving economic growth is a part of the plan too because essentially, if people are earning more, they're paying more tax which in turn helps increase the NHS budget.

Wes very clearly outlines that he's going to update the technology of the NHS, lean a little more on private healthcare providers, and shift treatment of significantly large areas which are under pressure out of the NHS (mental health, social care, prevention). which bit didn't you hear?

A mature and sensible boy who has a strong set of values

Turnout was 60% wasn't it? So 40% didn't vote. Why did you double that figure?

One after 14 years of truly corrupt, uncaring government from the Tories, part of which was to constantly gaslight the population into thinking exactly what you just expressed. It's a new day son, just give it time and watch how it plays out.

You’re confused about the numbers you’ve heard. Turnout was 60%, 6 people out of every 10 who could vote, did vote. Labour got around 1/3rd of the vote, so 2 out of the 6. That computes to 2 in 10 or 20% of the eligible vote population. Ergo, 80% of the eligible voting population didn’t vote Labour. And hence renewed talk about proportional representation. But thus has it always been for other parties. Those making a noise about it now didn’t do so when it was the Liberal Democrat’s getting 25% of the vote for around 60 seats.

@timelord5920 many of those talking about PR also think that a second referendum on brexit was anathema to democracy, but are now calling for PR despite us rejecting electoral reform not that long ago.

@@drummingtildeath Exactly. Farage is, unsurprisingly, being an outright hypocrite about his definitions of democracy yet again. Of course he finds moral superiority in the option that gives him more power. No different to when he said he'd fight a close Brexit result if Leave lost, then immediately condemned Remain voters for not lying prone.

It's very clear, as an overview. Specific moves - they immediately announced redirecting funding to GPs to fix the front door of the NHS. That's a bigger move than the tories made in 14 years.

What happened to you to make you like this? 😅

Maybe try listening instead of getting your opinion through daily mail headlines.

​​@@lcg8220what do you mean daily mirror reader? This mug is actually trying to convince you the private health providers aren't in it for profit. I'd argue you'd have to be as critical as a daily mirror reader to just believe that. there is no need for a peivate health sector at all. Much less to give government money. gbenergy. Is also just funneling our cash to private companies. We will not evem own any generation capacity. how any respectable labour supporter can accept this in any way beyond they aren't the blue tory party. Is baffling to me. party of privatisation. Their manifesto is coveted in it.

No you couldn't. Not a hope.

go ahead