I don't think Imogen is being awkward or oblivious, I think she was giving Nick opportunities to tell her about Charlie. In the end, she took pity on him since he was having such a hard time.
Exactly. That she only remarked on Nick's situation when they were alone at the bathroom door instead of in public or with Charlie in the kitchen means she's more keenly aware than she lets on. Too bad she fell with Ben tho.
@@noseofsauron236 Agreed, sometimes she may seem a little bit that way, but she's got the ally spirit. Here I think she managed the situation very well. Also I agree Ben was not a good choice, but she didn't know that and knew him as a friend not his past actions, but she comes to realises he messes people about and is a dick and has his own problems (not just with boys) .
To be fair to Charlie's parents, I had the no boyfriend sleepovers and doors open rule after I came out. Same rules applied to my older brother. We both broke those rules, but that's the fun of being a teenager.
As a gay parent to both a gay and a straight child, I didn’t allow it for either… sure they broke the rule at some point (heck if I didn’t at every chance) but I was not going to make a difference
I think most of what Charlie's mum says is at least somewhat resonable or at least not strange to say, but I think it's the way she doesn't show more understanding of young love, and is open to no compromise which could be seen as harsh etc that is prompting negative reactions towards the character I think. 🤷♂️
I'm absolutely loving the Chinese representation this season with Tao's mom making bao for his friends, pineapple on pizza, and speaking Cantonese at home.
@@priiifrg Asian generally and even internationally. Fruit in savory foods is both commonplace and even desirable in so, so many non-westen cuisines. Basically the whole pineapple on pizza controversy is pretty much a critique of how western cultures like to dunk on nonwestern ones.
@@priiifrg that's fair. Plus, generally speaking, when folk speak of the west, they're quite usually speaking of the colonizing nations primarily European and do not include S America or C America in that grouping. I'm too used to reading papers on geopolitics and being in academic circles so didn't think about how speaking about the west might cause lay people to think just entire western hemisphere.
@@counsellour I'm not saying you're wrong, and maybe it's more of an American/UK thing, but pineapple on pizza is the most popular type of pizza in Aus (where I live) so for people who dislike it here it's definitely not a "western dunking on non western cultures" type thing. Though to be fair, we do have a lot of Asian population here.
Actually in the comic the scene where Charlie tells his parents about Nick is much lighter, it's almost comical with the famous no hanky-panky! Charlie has a great relationship with his father, while his mother, even in the comics, is very strict, but she's not homophobic she's just very apprehensive because of Charlie's past (no spoilers) and she is having difficulty communicating with Charlie. The reaction then is overall quite normal remember that Charlie is just 15 years old at this point in the story.
@enryks9586 right??? also i think he says i have a boyfriend first and then says its nick, and theyre both happy for him when he says he has a bf. I wish theyd gone the same way tbh cuz it showed that they were accepting of his sexuality yet still had some stereotypical ideas on what queer people are supposed to look like lol
I watched it from 1 am after freaking out bc Netflix said it came out but I wasn't seeing season 2 till I restarted the app and then was sobbing by 5am once it was done
Guys, when you prepare your reaction to episode 2, make sure to comment on Nellie’s reaction (yes: Nellie 🐶) when David first meets Charlie in Nick’s bedroom. 😆
I came out to my parents in 1975, aged 14. My Mum said "Don't tell people at church" and my Dad said "Saves us the price of a wedding". They were marvellous.
Best Quotes from the intro: “I was never good at maths!” “That’s not maths that’s reading…” “What do I say?” “What are you saying?!” “I just hit my nose…HAHAHA I just hit myself…anyways!” “STOP MAKING IT ABOUT THE DOG!” “Bens just over there…on another web…on his own hate-web…yeah!”
I think Charlie’s DAD was being pretty reasonable. Sleepovers with friends were fine when I was a kid, but there’s no way my parents would let me have sleepovers with an acknowledged boyfriend/girlfriend at 15/16! 😂 Perfectly fine after 18, but pre GCSEs seems a little early and Charlie has only just turned 15. Dad’s clearly still learning too, but he was very supportive last season.
“it’s fabulous but i’m worried” is going to be my catchphrase from now on but i nearly lost a lung on your reaction with ben being im’s crush loooool btw can’t wait to see you reacting to kit’s oscar worthy acting when dealing with david
I would like to disagree with the parent thing. Im 45 and didn't come out until my early 20s once i was out of the house. A strict rule in our household was no girls in the boys room and no boys in the girls and definitely no sleepovers in which boyfriends/girlfriends were involved. I thought it was a valid response from them.
While I think this rule in general is stupid (rather have them do it under my roof in safety of their home than in some car or hotel), I loved the 'til marriage' reference, as its so hetero normative.
To be fair, the no-hanky-panky decree is a good protocol to at least discourage overabundant teenage pregnancies. Even when teens sneak around, they're at least more cautious as to not do anything that would let their parents find out, which would encourage using contraceptive measures. They may be dumb enough to not think about the consequences of pregnancy, but fear of parental punishment should always be on their brain. Also, when both individuals can't consent, that doesn't automatically equate to everything being fine. As a parent, you can't properly trust your kid's respectful handling of another kid's body. Even for gays, I'd still worry about how they even navigate their own escalating sexuality properly, cause they're probably careless enough to "attempt" certain acts without "preparing" for them beforehand, and a parent does not want to have to clean up after that mess.
@@vindifference first off, something as life changing as a pregnancy should never be shadowed by the fear or parental punishment. If this is to happen, it's usually because parents didn't want to inform their children about contraception as they think avoiding the topic of opportunities resists their kids from having sex. But it won't. In worst case they'll do it somewhere no one can come to help if things don't go as consented into. And then they'll fear talking to you about it, instead of seeking out for your help.
theres is so many people i have watched react to season 1 and you guys are who im the most excited for you guys to react you guys are so funny and it just makes my day :)
As a parent of a cishet son, a gay cis male teenager, and a bi trans masc teenager, I can tell you that I absolutely have a "NO HANKY PANKY" rule in my house. Unless they talk to me first. It has nothing to do with their sexuality, and everything to do with their age and making sure that they have to tools to be safe. If they cant muster the courage to ask for protection, then there will not be any fooling around or sleep overs under my roof.
This. I feel that if Tori had a partner, the same rule would apply. And to impose that rule on a cis-het child but not their queer sibling is seriously unfair.
I love how you said you felt a bit jealous - so many of my friends who watched this first episode said the exact same thing, and I felt it too slightly.
I adored season one. At the same time, I felt a bit jealous. Maybe even sad? I wanted to experience my own gay love story so badly when I was that age.
I binged the whole thing when it dropped so I could be ready for the commentary 🔥 P.S. No spoilers from me except that Tori switches from diet lemonade to juice.
Hi guys, I sat down last night and watched all of season two. I set aside the time. Boy was I an emotional wreck at the end. I never cried so much for a TV show. The acting went up a gear for me, to another level. The filming was beautiful. What a show! Wow! Hope you two are well. Love watching your reactions ❤
The thing about 'not in our house' rule from parents - a lot of teens that want to explore their sexuality and have at least some form of sexual experience will do it anyway, and the safest place to do it would be IN their own house, and not sneaking into some spaces where they might not be safe. So this rule is not about smart parenting
Be kinder to Imogen. She’s a kid who’s still learning about having crushes. The audience knows Ben sucks, but all she knows is that they’ve been friends for a long time (like Nick). They were always together during S1, so it kinda makes sense for her to have a crush. And Ben had a (public) gf. For all Imogen knows, he’s straight. Imogen rights!!!
@@jomarch1085 ah, the "have a great day" response. Do you really think that they're misogynistic or something? I don't know what you're getting at if you're bothering to comment on the channel.
THIS SEASON IS SO GOOD!!! i’d dare to say it’s better than season one, and i didn’t even know that was going to be possible but it was and i love it! prepare yourself cause i smiled, laughed and cried, its a rollercoaster of emotions but it’s mostly very heartwarming❤
I think jealousy/envy are very natural reactions to have, esp to that first episode; I know I did. When I was a teenager, I so badly wanted to be a boy who kisses boys, but didn't have the support to have that experience. There's definitely a grieving process for queer and (specifically in my case) trans ppl who never got the adolescences they deserved.
I've done an entire season rewatch already. I don't know if I'll watch it as often as S1 because that was just such an endorphin rush, but man, it hit me in the feels again.
As soon as Charlie said "its going to be perfect" my entire body tensed up & i grimaced. He's such a sweet kid, Joe is doing a wonderful job with the character, his acting has improved so much since s1, i just want to bundle him up and keep him safe. I too am jealous of Nick and Charlies relationship and im a 44yr old straight woman. I don't believe I've ever had any experience that came close to the love, respect and vulnerability they show and how careful they are with the others feelings. I think its probably quite rare which is a bit sad.
The Imogen reactions are priceless… that should have been the thumbnail 😂 it’s so exciting that you are completely spoiler free - so much good stuff to come!
every episode i'm reminded of how painfully relatable nick is lmao. it's like looking in a mirror (though i wish i looked like kit connor, damn) i kinda agree on the being-discovered thing! i was struggling with my gender identity for all of secondary school, and like - obviously i would hate it if it happened (and it kind of did - i told one person and suddenly the whole school knew) but in moments when i wanted people to know but didn't want to tell them myself, i had this sort of bitter wish that they'd just figure it out themselves and i'd never have to talk about it. i don't think anybody genuinely WANTS to be outed - even when i thought about it like that, the idea terrified me, and i knew how badly it'd suck - but sometimes feeling like it's out of your control is a little comforting, in some backwards way. maybe because some part of me still felt i was bad and wrong for being that way, and that if somebody else found out without me saying it then it wouldn't be my fault. idk. being closeted is complicated! (for reference, i'm 2-3 yrs older than nick, and i started coming out to people at around his age) my hardest coming out was my mum, definitely. i should preface this by saying she's now one of the most vocal and enthusiastic supporters i've ever met, i adore her - but at the time, it was difficult. she already knew i was queer (i came out to her as bi in primary school) but i decided to tell her i was trans on the day of my cousin's wedding - which sounds so shitty in hindsight, but it was genuinely just that if i had to wear a dress i didn't personally choose and be regarded as a girl by my extended family then i was gonna have a breakdown. i texted her from the bathroom at school (british schools hate phones, so i had to hide even though it was lunch) and then we spoke after school - it was a lot of yelling and crying and both of us leaving and re-entering the room bc we were both so stressed out. after a while of that, she admitted to me that she was terrified, because if i was trans, then the world was full of people that wanted me dead and she'd never be able to protect me from them. she regretted reacting so intensely, she was just so scared. we hugged it out, i disappointed my extented family by turning up to my cousin's wedding in my fanciest t-shirt and pants combo (and again, i know, it sounds shitty and i would never do that now, but i was a kid coping however i could), and, fast forwards a good 5 or 6 years, we're super close and i trust her with everything. so, yeah - super intense, not the most fun, but we've both talked it out since and she now has a reputation for being a super safe and welcoming person around my other queer friends, so!
i literally waited until 5 days after my wisdom tooth extraction to watch this because i knew it was gonna make me laugh but even 5 days after I'm still cackling so hard my stitches are pulling😭😭 it's so worth it tho u two r so freaking funny i can't even. watch me go watch the next videos despite the pain😭🤣🤣
This season was incredible (I binged it in two days). Watching it, I couldn't help but get emotional with Nick's story. I hope the performance and watching it back was cathartic for Kit in some way.
I've been looking forward to seeing you guys react to this, Such an amazing wholesome show with such an awsome cast. My most intense gomin out was definitely to my parents, They came up to visit me in uni for my 20th birthday and with alot of encouragement from my best friend who was the only other person who knew I decided to take the plunge. I ended up consuming the best part of two bottles of wine in a restaurant before tearfully telling them, they were absolutly fine in the end and have never been anything but supportive but it was so terrifying at the time. I also had the unfortunate bad reaction with my best friend who had no idea how to process the what was happening when i accidentally outed myself to him, he left after an awkward silence but thankfully came back after less than five minutes and we had a good long chat about everything. I wish a show like this had existed back when i was still a teen it would have been amazing and so helpful to see such a positive depiction of queer people. I'm so glad that this show exists for the younger generation to see that everything can be ok and to be part of the queer community can be an amazing experience.
I binged the whole season yesterday and loved the season. Super excited to see your reactions! And I'm with Alex on Charlie's parents. Those kinds of restrictions just encourage kids to lie to their parents
Love the energy, you can just feel the excitement from you two. And also... "They resorted to pineapple on pizza and that's never a good place to be" had me in tears 🤣
Have to give my credit to Charlie’s dad. Not for the “hanky panky” saying but he was mentioning it with the most important word, “married”. It’s so great to see the parents taking it so naturally.
good point about the Springs... they are all overprotective and somewhat controlling, in a way. I hadn't thought of it that way before. Charlie's sweet little heart is in the right place, but he sacrifices his own health, safety, happiness and relationships for the sake of others. He needs to learn to take care of himself just as much as he tries to protect others.
OMG guys, your reaction! I ❤ you. Honestly, the way you manage to balance hilarity with a really genuine commentary on how this relates to your own experiences. I'm bisexual (f) but I had no idea I was until my late 20s so I never had any of the combination of joy and trauma in my teenage years that's depicted in the show. I mean like, I had plenty of trauma, just not because of homophobia 😏 But I've honestly learned so much from you as well as having a lot of laughs.
Imogen liking Ben was SO unexpected! I love your videos so much, i already saw the whole 2nd season and can't wait to watch it again through your videos 😁
Your reaction to Imogen’s crush reveal is the same as me and my friends lol Imagine 12 people in a room all screaming at a tv screen We were very emotional
14:45 this was honestly too funny, while you guys were just talking about Elle trying to flirt with Tao, you guys look back to see the next scene and your reactions were just so funny to me 😂 Also at 16:41 This was LITERALLY me like the whole time I was like, I'm not so sure this is the right time to tell Imogen since she needs to go to the bathroom
Have you noticed when they rush into the closet that the tree on Nick's blazer's badge is in full leaf - it (he?) is flourishing! The ones on the other boys' blazers are all still normal. I love noticing these little metaphors!
I can't wait to see your thoughts on this season! I binged season 2 at 1 in the morning as soon as it was released, and I have zero regrets. I read the graphic novels, and I still freaked out.
In the first scene with Imogen I definitely think she was waiting for Nick to tell her about Charlie, the way she said “and if you have any romantic developments” and the way she looked at him afterwards, the same with the scene in the kitchen, she didn’t want to say anything, she wanted Nick to tell her, but by the time they got to the last scene she just blurted it out because she could see he was having trouble telling her, and yes she reacted in the most perfect way, that’s what anybody wants in that situation is just a hug 🤗
I'm so excited to see your guys reaction to the rest of season 2 bc tis amazing and I love your reaction to season 1 also "is she eating a whole garlic?" My favorite clip so far 😭😭
Exactly! At the end of s1 they came out as a couple at school!!! Everybody watched how Nick left the game, grab Charlie, holded hands and got away!!!!!
