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The bank robbery shootout sequence in Heat is arguably the greatest movie gunfight ever filmed. Today, we'll be taking a closer look at the sequence in order to determine why that is. What is it that makes the bank heist shootout in Heat so great? Why does it top most Top 10 movie shootouts of all time?
If you haven't seen Heat, you might've heard about it as one of the greatest crime movies ever made, inspiring later known crime thrillers like Ben Affleck's The Town, Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight, Martin Scorcese's The Departed, Rockstar's Grand Theft Auto (GTA) and so on. What's the secret? Should we take lessons from the screenplay of the film? Or is it just overall nerdwriter knowledge? To be honest, we can only see.
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A successful career criminal considers getting out of the business after one last score, while an obsessive cop desperately tries to put him behind bars in this intelligent thriller written and directed by Michael Mann. Neil McCauley (Robert De Niro) is a thief who specializes in big, risky jobs, such as banks and armored cars. He's very good at what he does; he's bright, methodical, and has honed his skills as a thief at the expense of his personal life, vowing never to get involved in a relationship from which he couldn't walk away in 30 seconds. Vincent Hanna (Al Pacino) is an L.A.P.D. detective determined to catch McCauley, Abengers endgame ending, avengers endgame battle scene, avengers endgame, avengers endgame iron man thor captain america thanos spiderman, but while McCauley's personal code has forced him to do without a wife and children, Hanna's dedication has made a wreck of the home he's tried to have; he's been divorced twice, he's all but a stranger to his third wife, and he has no idea how to reach out to his troubled step-daughter. While McCauley has enough money to retire and is planning to move to New Zealand, he loves the thrill of robbery as much as the profit, and is blocking out plans for one more job; meanwhile, he's met a woman, Eady (Amy Brenneman), whom he's not so sure he can walk away from. The supporting cast includes Val Kilmer as Chris, one of McCauley's partners; Ashley Judd as his wife Charlene; Jon Voight as Nate; Hank Azaria as Alan Marciano; and Henry Rollins as Hugh, who is beaten up by Hanna.
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In this epic crime thriller, a robbery crew plot to steal a small fortune in soon-to-be-destroyed bills from Los Angeles' Federal Reserve Bank. However, their scheme puts them on a collision course with a sheriff's deputy and his law-enforcement unit, who are notorious for not playing by the rules. Gerard Butler, Pablo Schreiber, O'Shea Jackson Jr., and Curtis Jackson star. Directed by Christian Gudegast.

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@jaspervanheycop9722 5 лет назад

I think the stakes are important too, in the Heat sequence we constantly see civilians in danger and general panic, it makes it look like a terror attack or other real life tragedy. In Den of Thieves we see... empty cars.

@frealms 5 лет назад

Also, after watching Gun Jesus (Forgotten Weapons, Ian) taking with the guy who is basically THE person to go to for movie guns and seeing how many different kinds of blanks there are, so you can adapt to what you have on set, and looking at the Den of Thieves set I think they had restraints on the powder load to avoid shrapnel ricocheting onto the actors. Heat's set allowed for meatier charges as they were shooting down range while Den's was really close to the vehicles, specially windows.

@racewiththefalcons1 5 лет назад

Den of Thieves looks too much like a Hollywood movie with traditional color grading that makes it look like every other Hollywood movie. Heat looks more like real life.

@Dananator101 5 лет назад

I think the stark contrast between the loud-ass gunfire and the lack of music really helps too. It makes it feel all the more real.

@austingriff5905 5 лет назад

frealms link to that forgotten weapons video?

@KutWrite 4 года назад

@@racewiththefalcons1: ...but with style!

@jimstaten8734 5 лет назад

Correct, it's the sound. So many films fail to illustrate how insanely loud firearms are. With Heat that wasn't the case.

@BudgiePanic 5 лет назад

I had some goon in the comments harassing me saying that the sounds used were fake, idiot.

@NefariousKoel 5 лет назад

Fist time I saw Heat back in the 90s, the gunfire sounds in the shootout were certainly what surprised me. I had never seen a movie which quite got the gunfire sounds, and especially their echoes, correct. I don't think I've seen it since, either.

@Corrupt_be 5 лет назад

Same thing happened in the Battlefield series, Bad Company 2 had very strong, echo'ing gun sounds, the guns sounded amazing. Later titles haven't been able to recapture this imo.

@KravMagoo 5 лет назад

Michael Mann DID deliberately amplify the gunfire sounds of the shootout--forget the percentage, but by about 20% or so.

@DamienDarksideBlog 5 лет назад

I'm Canadian so unlike a lot of Americans I grew up only seeing guns on cops and security, along with seeing them in movies, RU-vid channels and video games. I went to a range last year for the first time in my life to finally fire off some rounds. I wasn't prepared at all for just how fucking LOUD everything is. It's now ruined me, since now I know how various calibers sound like an now I'm really critical with how guns are supposed to sound like in games and movies. Especially suppressors.

@gullydisciple 5 лет назад

I loved val kilmers absolute zero hesitation to shoot at the cops

@Caddiken 3 года назад

ZERO‼️

@stuartholden6163 2 года назад

This: it’s the moment you realize that the bad guys are going to do anything at any cost to leave. Followed by DeNiro shooting through the wind shield

@kyledarrow1809 2 года назад

I felt like he was firing before he knew he was firing 🤣

@hapemokenela7388 2 года назад

He's comfortable with chaos. Dude you definitely want on your side.

@internziko 2 года назад

From big smile to you're all gonna die. Legendary

@MarkColvinJr 5 лет назад

HEAT is a certified classic!

@loganstolberg2743 4 года назад

Certified fresh classic

@remainincognito6303 3 года назад

@@loganstolberg2743 certified cool fresh classic

@alex.walterlozano6247 3 года назад

Certified hood classic

@Ali007572 2 года назад

I think it is even the best heist movie ever, or at least brililant example how to make a heist movie ergo maybe Heat is the godfather of all the heist movies. :)

@ScottSchapiro 5 лет назад

I remember first seeing this movie and thinking to myself that there is no way a shootout like that, on that scale, would ever happen after a bank robbery. Then, two years later, there was the North Hollywood shootout. Back on topic, the sound during the shootout in Heat was something I remember vividly to this day. Amazing no other director has really tried to emulate it.

@MrBrainiac25 5 лет назад

After the cops took down the robbers in the North Hollywood shootout they searched the robbers home and in the VHS player was the movie Heat. So this scene might've unfortunately inspired those guys

@deg1studios 4 года назад

@@MrBrainiac25 people that are that sick would find an excuse to murder even if heat never was created. not implying that you specifically were blaming heat, just setting the record straight

@SSgtJ0hns0n 3 года назад

@@MrBrainiac25 It might have inspired them, but the probable reality is that the NH shootout robbers missed the entire point of the shootout as well as the context. The crew in Heat did not plan to get into a massive shootout; in fact the robbery right before it was relatively quiet and aside from bruises and a broken nose, bloodless. The point of the guns was intimidation and firepower only when shit go sideways, which it did unfortunately. The NH robbers went into the bank immediately firing into the ceiling, getting their loot and were "prepared" to go into a firefight with the LAPD. Problem was is that the police had ample time to respond after the first shots, and consistently piled on the robbers as the hour went on. All the body armor in the world would not have saved them from eventually getting shot in their exposed extremities and resulting in their well-deserved demises. Amazingly for all that firepower, NO COPS DIED. Finally, if the robbers were indeed using Heat as their inspiration for their heist, they overlooked one tiny aspect of it; the heist in the movie was overall a FAILURE for the robbers. Two dead, only half their earnings and a whole lot of heat from the police which they really didn't want in the first place. Their ideal heists were riding on going in and out flawlessly with no body count on any side. The NH robbers went in firing first, in front of civvies and putting a big mark on them. There is no ending for them in which they would have gotten away with the money and then living a happy life with a trail of dead cops behind them.

@toro5280 2 года назад

This was THE scene to test your surround system.

@danieldevito6380 2 года назад

The craziest part is that the North Hollywood shootout was even crazier than the movie.

@phale426 5 лет назад

To me the most important factor in a shootout scene is geometry - being able to tell where all the characters are in relation to each other and the environment. In Den of Thieves most of the shots are close ups where you can only see the guy shooting/guy getting shot at without a clear understanding of where they are in relation to each other. We see the character, but we don't see what they are shooting at. And even when there is an over-the-shoulder type shot, the downrange area is blurred while the character is in focus. There are a few shots where we can see both shooter and target in the same shot, there just needs to be more of them! Compare this to Heat where one of the very first shots is has shooter and target established clearly in the same frame. While Heat also uses plenty of close up shots there is always enough shooter/target shots sprinkled in so you have a very clear understanding of where they are shooting at. Even though the robbers are firing in two opposite directions you can always tell which way they are firing based on the geometry of the characters and the environment. Another shootout sequence that does this really well is the scene from The Way of the Gun. There are several shots in that sequence where the location of 3 or 4 characters are made extremely clear in the same frame. Having a solid understanding of shooter/target geometry not only helps the audience follow a chaotic action sequence, but also can be great to build tension as the audience can see exactly how close the shooter is to hitting the target. Guy shooting -> cut to guy getting shot tells you WHAT happened, while guy shooting target in the same frame tells you HOW it happened.

@DamienDarksideBlog 5 лет назад

This is also true with fight scenes. John Wick does an amazing job establishing the scene and where the fight takes place, and that drew from Asian cinema, especially Jackie Chan movies.

@tomas-malo 5 лет назад

Way of the gun is a massively underrated movie IMO.

@rybread5718 3 года назад

Holy shit... I know this reply is super late, but I totally agree. I always hate it on action movies when the directors don't make placement of characters well known.

@dathorndike4908 3 месяца назад

In Heat the cops are constantly trying to advance on the robbers causing them to move their positions. Every time one of them changes positions they expose themselves to gunfire. That is constant tension because no one character can just stay concealed in cover. They have to almost constantly keep moving as bullets are flying everywhere..

@Outland9000 5 лет назад

Den of Thieves sounds a lot like a computer game, HEAT sounds like helmet cam footage during an actual ambush in Fallujah.

@hardware199 4 года назад

Another movie scene with loud gun fire directed by Michael Mann is the "Collateral" Alleyway scene.

@tonykennedy8483 3 года назад

Mick Gould, es-SAS, was behind both scenes

@aashiv93 3 года назад

"Yo homie! That my briefcase?"

@toro5280 2 года назад

This must be the most replayed scene in this millenium. It is so short and so awesome that I bet everybody replayed it at least 10 times on their first home video viewing alone.

@diogeneslantern18 9 месяцев назад

And don't forget Miami Vice. Another Michael Mann offering

@nickedds2907 5 лет назад

No movie should be 3 hours long? Some of the best movies ever made are 3 hours long. It's more so that movies that are 3 hours long and bad are the exceptions.

@THE_BEAR_JEW 5 лет назад

Very true. The only 3 hour movie that was horrible is perhaps Pearl Harbor. I can't think of many others.

@rezza1210 5 лет назад

the video also mentioned that there's an exception for some movies, heat is one of those

@octaviosardi3337 5 лет назад

He explains in another video why movies should be long or short

@Dananator101 5 лет назад

I think he meant that no film NEEDS to be 3 hours long. A film can be 3 hours long and accomplish nothing and be garbage due to that, but some can be fantastic films and use their time effectively.

@1969Makaveli 5 лет назад

The best 3 hour movies are.... The Lord Of The Rings Trilogy Scarface The GodFather Once Upon A Time in America Heat BraveHeart The Last Of The Mohicans

@demongrenade2748 5 лет назад

The only thing missing from the HEAT shootout is the sound of bullet cracks (which is totally acceptable because otherwise they'd have to use live rounds instead of blanks). A large part of the sounds of real gunfire is not only the actual shot, but the supersonic 'crack' created by the bullet. Its almost as loud as the gunshot itself. When I hear vets talk about the firefight in heat, they normally say its about as close as you can get to what an actual firefight sounds like, but its a little off. The lack of supersonic cracks is whats missing.

@DamienDarksideBlog 5 лет назад

Watching this, it was my only thought too. When he talked about the blanks and being used in a city, I thought "Man, imagine if they were live rounds."

@failtolawl 5 лет назад

Sounds in movies are imported or at least altered. They could have, and very well should have considering deadlines, imported bullet cracks.

@maastomunkki 5 лет назад

To be fair, very few audiences could tolerate the cacophony what that shootout would sound, if it was 100% accurate. Even those snaps of near misses make one's ears ring plus rifle rounds striking hard surfaces nearby make a pretty loud boom themselves, so it would, in one word, be overwhelming to most moviegoers. For me, the sound design in Heat is pretty much spot on, an awesome compromise of making the scene as kick ass as possible, without traumatizing anyone beyond recovery.(:

@PorscheFTW 5 лет назад

@@DamienDarksideBlog Don't forget too when that shoot out scene took place it was on Mother's Day so all the mothers going out to eat got to witness and hear all that. That's nuts! I also read that tourists grabbed a lot of the shells all over the ground too.

@jukka-pekkatuominen4540 4 года назад

Well to be frank, they used live rounds in Heat. Not all the time and the actors certainly used blanks. But all the destruction that you can see (bullet holes etc.) are made by using live ammo. I am sure that is also a reason why it looks so realistic.

@nickfitchner3218 4 года назад

Heat is a masterpiece, Larry Vickers said they show this scene when going through weapons training and says " you all better be able to reload as fast as Val kilmer!". You can tell they put in the work:)

@dathorndike4908 3 месяца назад

Kilmer had that down. That was impressive

@adifrasi 4 года назад

Of course it's also the fact that in Heat we have two legendary actors that portray the roles of rivals. In the 90's everyone dreamed of having Pacino and Deniro together in a modern film and not only they are in the same movie, but they are the perfect rivals. This is one of the most important things that differentiate Heat from other heist movies.

@justin76bmw 5 лет назад

This shootout is so brilliant they actually use it as a training aid in the army.

@rars0n 4 года назад

I still remember the first time I saw Heat. The shootout scene was absolutely chilling. The sound, more than anything I think, sets the whole tone of the scene.

@dathorndike4908 3 месяца назад

If anyone saw Heat in a theater with that Dolby Surround Sound you were in for an experience.

@Lavaman3682 4 года назад

As a former law enforcement officer with a 15 year career in both a major city and federal law enforcement, in my opinion Heat is the most accurate and realistically portrayed gun battle I have ever seen. And I would take that down to the quality of the training of the actors and the acoustics. when I saw that film I muttered to my companion that this kind of thing, a West Hollywood style shootout In a dense urban environment is my worst nightmare. I have always been an enormous fan of Michael and details and precision like you have pointed out in this scene in this one movie alone are part of the reason why

@haitch2676 4 года назад

Alohagrit when your director hires an ex SAS sergeant, you’d expect it to be realistic. After all, Andy McNab describes a firefight just like this in his biography Bravo Two Zero

@tonykennedy8483 3 года назад

@@haitch2676 He had Mick Gould there too, also ex-SAS

@OrinNekomata 4 года назад

"The Town, The Departed, The Dark Knight, Grand Theft Auto, name your pick" I'm kinda bummed there was no Payday.)

@DonPatrono 2 года назад

he showed the trailer of the Armored Transport DLC so that's something

@peanutbutter2586 Месяц назад

Guys, the thermal drill, go get it.

@jlogan2228 4 года назад

Den of thieves has no urgency, and the actors look like they just picked up the guns for the shootout Heat you can see they are all VERY well trained and VERY comfortable and every single movement has urgency. Ex I'm more intimidated by Val kilmer in that suit and his ponytail than any of the den of theives dudes with their tactical outfits and such bc kilmer just has that air of efficient and skilled to him

@Daisjun 3 года назад

Exactly, it's also to do with the training the actors received. A lot of them look great in Den of Thieves and you can tell they had some extensive training. Gerard Butler however looks like he played a couple of rounds of Time Crisis to prepare for the shoot. Look at the contrast at 0:12. Butler kinda vaguely looks over the top of the sights and doesn't even brace his weapon. Kilmer looks down the sights and has his weapon properly braced (aside from the kinda comical spraying), he looks far more proficient and comfortable with the weapon. It's little details like that that will pull you right out of the scene if they're not correct. If you want an extreme example, look at Steven Seagal in Sniper: Special Ops. Hoooooorrible.

@jlogan2228 3 года назад

@@Daisjun lol yea I think I read a trivia blurb that kilmers tactical reload was so good that its used in training as an example of reload under pressure

@piliage 3 года назад

100%. Den of Thieves looks like they are trying not to bump into the camera crew. It's far to pedestrian. With De Niro and Kilmer, every move is razor sharp and crisp. When Kilmer turns to his 6, he whips around, squeezes off a limited round of suppressing fire, and then swings immediately around sharply again to lay down the forward burst. It's precise and immediate like their lives depend on it. When they stop to lay down cover, the other person sprints FAST past them, as you would if you were under live fire.

@barrywatkins8031 2 года назад

In Heat the actors' weapons advisor was Ex SAS Andy McNab and he drilled them non stop. He said Kilmer was superb

@CShivery 4 года назад

Three hours? Heat should've been 4 hours.

@PorscheFTW 4 года назад

At least!

@washburn11000 3 года назад

And it still would be a classic lol 🤷

@SJB2000 2 года назад

I personally love how long the film is. Despite the length there's always something of importance happening and not just filler

@Veldtian1 5 лет назад

Nobody does it like Micheal Mann. The reverb and staccato of those AR's just assaults your senses, very immersive, no other movie has come close. Also the body language of De Niro and Kilmer, the tactical reloads, and parts where they did off-hand shooting under stress is what sold it too. That other movie was so wooden and rehearsed, zero emotional investment.

@07foxmulder 5 лет назад

Veldtian1 I think Spielberg does. Munich and SPR in particular.

@jlogan2228 4 года назад

Agreed. In heat you can sense the robbers are well trained bc....well they are. They did extensive trianing with a Navy seal to the point Val kilmers reload in the shootout is actually used to TEACH soldiers about proper reload under stress as is the way he lifts his rifle put pivots at the hip then fires behind him vs just stepping or swinging around. Plus the way they legit sprint and move just feels like trained soldiers In Den of theives just felt like it was choreographed to look right by didn't have nearly the skill applied

@tonykennedy8483 3 года назад

@@jlogan2228 Mick Gould and Andy McNab trained and choreographed the scene - Both ex-British Army SAS

@toro5280 2 года назад

A huge part of the sound is the location - the shots sound quite different between the buildings in downtown where the echo amplifies them, than the open space of Den of Thieves. (Source - "Heat" bonus material).

@LoverOfManyArts 3 года назад

The gun sound effects in Heat sound like how REAL and IMPACTFUL guns sound, gun sound effects in mainstream action movies and games sound like plactic bubble wrap guns

@nolanolivier6791 5 лет назад

As you must be aware, the scene was developed in collaboration with Steve Mitchell, aka Andy Mcnab. I was shown the scene with my platoon as a trainee at Catterick in 1998. The scene represents such a good application of small unit fire and movement that it is in fact a useful training aid.

@kekelaward 5 лет назад

I've heard that Kilmer's reload scene has been shown to new guys in the USMC to show how it's done.

@hpa2005 3 года назад

@@kekelaward It was, the shootout as whole was shown to Marine recruits as the proper way to retreat while under fire.

@madyogi6164 3 года назад

Not much to say just would think vice-versa. There must have been military training officers/people involved to show actors, how it should/must be done... Thank's for sharing this info...

@nolanolivier6791 3 года назад

@@madyogi6164 as I said, Steve Mitchell was technical advisor...

@platty9237 3 года назад

@@madyogi6164 they took the details very seriously, including 911 response times.

@dudeyemsi9304 Год назад

I’ve watched Heat dozens of times and the action scenes still hit just as hard as the first time.

@dragospahontu Год назад

Yup

@youngbear2258 5 лет назад

As someone who is familiar with the sound of live rifle fire, the sound in Heat is something that comes closest to the reality.

@andrewmarinelly5838 3 года назад

They chaos of the scene is what I remember first but before watching your video the actors eyes had the most impact on me (even though most had sunglasses.) They were darting around hyper vigilant but the would lock aim and fire with focus. That lethal intention when I was young made the whole scene for me.

@dathorndike4908 3 месяца назад

Part of it was the cops and the robbers having to deal with all the civilians caught in the gun battle. That was so realistic. Most movies set up gun battles so there aren't many people getting in the way.

@unstable0 5 лет назад

i always remember the battle from Children of Men being really good. felt real.

@autoxmatic1594 5 лет назад

Thats true. Ppl forget about the battle because of the story in that movie.

@unstable0 2 года назад

And how everyone stopped awestruck when they heard the baby crying. But yeah one of the best battle scenes of all time.

@ZombieRommel 5 лет назад

I haven't seen Den of Thieves, so my input here may not hold water, but to me it looks like the actors in Heat are actually conveying the terror of being in a gun battle. The actors look extremely nervous / tense / afraid for their lives. When they pop up to shoot, it's with a serious intent, and then they get back down asap. In Den of Thieves (from the scenes in this video), I got the sense that the characters were not very worried. And I think that comes from Heat having all around better actors and better direction.

@ulyx9804 5 лет назад

They did look a bit relaxed. The way the villain runs away at the very end of the video in the live shot is so lazy and the intensity just isn't there. 100% the actors are way more believable in Heat. Nail on the head here.

@ZombieRommel 5 лет назад

@@ulyx9804 Good catch. Yeah that guy is getting shot at, and when he breaks his position he looks like he's going on a Sunday jog to a lemonade stand.

@traffic9518 3 года назад

I think they intended like that because the crooks in Den of Thieves were in the USMC which is specifically taught to stay cool in high stress situations. I haven't actually gotten a chance to see Heat tho so I can't really say anything about it

@tsvetelin6556 5 месяцев назад

Well at least 3 of the main actors in the Heat shoutout are overall better actors than each one of the actors in Den of Thieves so good point.

@the_Kutonarch 5 лет назад

I totally agree with you about the sound, I can still clearly remember my own shock and surprise when I first heard the sound of those guns firing, it was nothing like any film I've seen before, I was hooked.

@shawnb1774 2 года назад

You can almost feel the concussions as the guns are fired and the echo's off the buildings make it so real.

@wayfaringstranger8430 5 лет назад

This was a pretty good still image. 10/10 would stare at it for five hours again.

@OutrageIsNow Год назад

My grandmother was the person who got me into this movie lol. She told me she watched it and liked Val Kilmer but his character was so “evil” but she loved how he played the character and loved the movie too. Looking back, she was the one who got me into movies.

@BoomBoomLou 5 лет назад

Heat made it happen... Since than nobody else has been able to re-create that scene that took my heart.

@BrohemianLifestyle 3 года назад

Heat is one of the best movies of all time, and I don't say that often.

@moduleheadindependentcreat8158 5 лет назад

I remember watching Heat back then and all I could remember was the sound.it never left me

@Dagrizzb 3 года назад

The best 10 minutes in Cinema history right here. The Heat shootout scene.

@topofthepodium2512 3 года назад

A few other reasons Heat’s gunfight scene rocks: real spent casings being ejected from the bolt carrier. And the sound of them hitting the pavement. Even shows that can certainly afford the real deal will show a fight scene with the bolt carrier closed or just not ejecting casings. Another is several instances of reloading. How many movies does the hero shoot forever and never reload? And Heat is close with how quickly you would go empty with a fully automatic before needing to reload yet again. Realistically that would be a just a few seconds with those types of magazines. And also how many spare mags they were carrying and eventually using. Great film! Best gunfight scene ever!

@jackl3608 5 лет назад

The reasons why Heat was so good are: a. The cast b. Michael Mann c. The storytelling a. and b. are self evident... but c. is perhaps the most overlooked aspect. Heat spent the entire movie developing the personalities of the two main leads which draw the audience into it. Even the other supporting roles have their stories... they are not just bodies to be blown up

@RolfHartmann 5 лет назад

Fun fact: Heat's military advisor was Andy McNab a famous former member of the SAS who wrote Bravo Two Zero about a failed mission. For best shoot outs I'd list: the museum scene in John Wick 2, the start of the battle in Black Hawk Down, the single take shoot out in Hard Boiled, the attack on the rocket in Flash Gordon, and the final duel in For a Few Dollars More. Each of those are great but in very different ways.

@tongyang1631 5 лет назад

Hard boiled scene is one of the best one takes ever.

@deanc91 5 лет назад

@@dennis4180 Frequently concealment is as good as cover depending on the situation, and it's not like they had much in terms of hard cover to go by. Even through soft cover, like vehicles, bullets will deflect, keyhole, or fragment drastically reducing hit probability and lethality. There was nothing wrong with Val Kilmer's pivot. It's not ideal, but they are not in an ideal situation. They're going for volume of fire, to suppress who they can in order to reduce pressure and open up a good window of retreat. There's a reason why this shootout is shown to USMC recruits as a lesson on how to correctly retreat under fire.

@dennis4180 5 лет назад

BedTime Of course, when limited to nothing else but soft cover. The movie fails when it portrays it as actual combat and not retreat though, turning around to shoot someone only to stand up and turn around again. It’s just nitpicking though.

@RolfHartmann 5 лет назад

@@dennis4180 It shows the bullets ripping straight through the cars pretty well.

@Kenneth45 5 лет назад

Eh, I find John Wick's scenes to be really overrated... For me the best shootouts are in Clear and Present Danger, Collateral, Black Hawk Down had some good ones, and probably some others I can't think of right now...

@Filmento 5 лет назад

I see that the premiere feature hasn't been very welcome here. Apologies -- just testing it out. Hope you still enjoy the vid!! e: Still, it was nice to talk with you all in the chat, if only once.

@111vincento 5 лет назад

I like the premiere feature.

@rhuanhollands 5 лет назад

really great video man, i've never seen this movie, i saw the dark knight and the bank heist shootout is my faviourite scene. this video helped me understand more how important sound design and location help create an atmosphere. thank you for making this video

@basacamen1234 5 лет назад

My favourite shotout scene is probably siccario border scene. Its intense and well acted. Despite its short you really fell invested in the scene.

@512TheWolf512 5 лет назад

i genuinely don' understand why every motherfucker looks at "premiere" from a creator perspective instead of the CORRECT perspective

@stevemurray5606 3 года назад

Absolutely badass movie!! Never will be equalled! There was one move that really impressed me and that was at the start of the main shootout. When Val Kilmer was smiling on his way to the car then noticed cops across the street, his reaction was immediate. No hesitation at all, he starting rocking and rolling.

@dathorndike4908 3 месяца назад

I always wonder about that scene and what he was smiling at. Was it because he thought he was home free and going to get away with the robbery? Or did he see the cops and the smile was "I see you. Alright. Now let's get it on!"

@splewy 5 лет назад

I totally agree on the sound. As an avid shooter myself, I've quickly noticed that very few movies and video games get gun sounds even close to right. For some reason, it's become this Hollywood trope that all gunshots are just dull thuds that sound more like something coming from an electronic drum machine than any real firearm. Real gunshots are never a dull thud. Depending on your position relative to the gun, they are usually a loud, reverberating boom, a sharp crack or some combination of the two. I think this just one part of a general laziness that has infested modern action film making. -It's HARD to capture usable live gunfire sounds. It's easy to just add stock sounds in post. -It's HARD to do good long takes that let the viewer actually see the action. It's easy to just stitch together a bunch of mediocre junk in quick cuts. -It's HARD to do good in camera practical effects. It's easy to just slap in some bad CGI in post.

@mikfhan 4 года назад

Yeah, one thing I notice off the bat is, Heat shootout has some sort of underlying low frequency kick to your eardrums whenever a nearby shot is fired. Like it almost hurts your ears when played at just normal volume - many other films you have to crank it up to approximate that, but then all other sound is too loud. I have NEVER fired a live round gun in my life, other than a .22 or so, but that initial base kick, along with the long reverb afterward, is really quite unique to Heat.

@diogeneslantern18 9 месяцев назад

A game that got the sound of war exceptionally right was Battlefield Bad Company 2. The successors in title just couldn't trump what it had to offer.

@asifalimirza 3 года назад

Heat was one of the greatest movies made in my lifetime. Everything about it from the actors to the gritty LA streets immersed me into the film so much so that when I saw it in the summer of 1995 at Universal Cinemas in Universal City (North Hollywood), it was the midnight show I didn't even realize that almost 3 hours had gone by! I walked out of the theater at 3am and couldn't stop thinking about the movie. I watch it every few years, and it never gets old

@Digital_Blondie 4 года назад

The first time I saw the shootout scene, my heart was beating out of my chest, the gunshots echoed through my mind, I was hypnotized and completely immersed in the scene. Best ever shot.

@ChromeJob 5 лет назад

I think an element that I saw in your Den of Thieves clips (I haven't seen the film) is the filmmaker switched to a third-person omniscient POV for some shots. In HEAT, you follow the action through handheld takes done with the characters ... IIRC you're 100% with each side of the fight. It literally scary. You hear all the ricochets around you incessantly, without interruption. AFter the long buildup, the shootout operates at 100%, perhaps only slowing down a bit to the end when Pacino is chasing down Sizemore. In the theater, it was relentless. Few films succeed in building such tension and then releasing it with nonstop, wanton excitement. Sicario and Arrival perhaps (note they had the same director).

@Clormo 5 лет назад

I still play this scene every few months just to enjoy the way the sound amplifies the whole atmosphere and feel of the scene. Anyone with a good sound system knows that if you play this just at the right loudness, you could scare your neighbors

@07foxmulder 5 лет назад

I know it’s technically not a shootout scene, but the Omaha landing in SPR also sounds incredible. Spielberg and Mann are the only directors who give guns the respect the deserve in movies.

@shonuff4323 3 месяца назад

The echoing off the buildings just makes it soooo good

@nate_d376 5 лет назад

I really love both films, as they both offer great cinematic experiences. However, Heat is just simply perfect, and not just the sound design. That does play a huge role in that scene though. But, Heat just brings it in every scene, not just that one. The character development, the tention, the acting, the lighting, the framing, etc... you just can't remake that, or recapture that lightning. So, it is a culmination where the sums of its parts are greater than the whole, and it supersedes even itself, almost like a cathartic release as the movment of the film reaches its climax. I still remember seeing it for the first time in the theater, it blew me away, so much so, I went back 5 more times to see it in the theater. Unfortunately den of thieves just didn't do that for me, it was good, and I'll watch it again, but I'm nowhere near as excited to watch it again as I'm actually anticipating watching Heat again, a movie I have watched 25+ times, and bought 3 times (dvd, Bluray, digital).

@1969Makaveli 5 лет назад

Dude this was an excellent video thank you. I love HEAT so much, it is the best movie Micheal Man has done. I took my dad to see this movie back in 1995 and he loved it. I bought this movie on VHS, DVD, and Blu-ray.

@dexterg90 2 года назад

The echoes made the difference. I love both shootouts but heat had the most realistic gunshots in film

@danieldevito6380 2 года назад

The absolute most amazing sounding gun fight in the history of motion picture.

@ocubex 3 года назад

Must have watched this film 5 or 6 times, just seeing your review makes me think its time for another one - pure adrenaline shootout!

@davidrpriest 4 года назад

I think what makes it so great is the tension built up at the beginning of the bank robbery when they are in the bank. The robbery is done in such a professional way that you think they are going to pull it off until they go outside. Most of us have seen the movie several times so we forget the first time we say it that the bank robbery looked like a success until they start to go outside. I think sound had a lot to do with it. The sound editing was incredible during the gunfight.

@evandrobatista7086 3 года назад

Funny thing is that the first time i had contact with Heat was in a video, here on RU-vid, of the bank heist. No context, only the cut of the scene, and it had little to none impact on me. I was like "yeah... that's a nice shootout. Nice blue set of colors btw". But when i saw the entire movie, i remember getting more and more excited as i knew that i was about to see THAT HEIST, because the build-up to it make you want to see it as your life depends on it!! Heat is pure joy and, maaaan... De Niro was magnetic on this movie, you gotta admit it!!

@chamsghom3328 5 лет назад

video about the two sicario movies please

@PorscheFTW 5 лет назад

Oh absolutely!

@p.bamygdala2139 3 года назад

Good call. The first one was memorable. The second one was serial.

@ByTheSlice 5 лет назад

I saw The Town in theater and the gun sounds were so good. I can see how it played a part in Heat also.

@PorscheFTW 4 года назад

Another excellent cops and robbers flick!

@richardpurves 5 лет назад

There's one big point not mentioned. While I can't speak for "Den of Thieves", "Heat" had ex British Special Forces guys doing the weapons handling training and tactics for the cast. When Val Kilmer ducks behind the car and performs a faultless magazine change, I heard stories that the US 101st Airborne stood up and cheered. The action and composition are good, but the actors are selling it too as they're performing what's effectively British Army close quarter battle drills.

@viciousbane569 5 лет назад

2:57 I didn’t know it lasted 2hr and 52m and you know why because this is a great film and I felt like I couldn’t stop watching it because of how intriguing it was.

@01bigtrev 3 года назад

The echo through the buildings .... frightening I’m pretty sure they used blanks that would give off a louder sound as well. That clip that’s been repeated of den of thieves where the dude reloads looks like he forgets which way he has to go to take cover 😂

@lukewilliam3601 4 года назад

It's funny, I knew the music in the bank scene as soon as you started talking about it. Credit to Mann and his team.

@AustrianAnarchy 5 лет назад

The sound of the spent shells hitting the ground was what gave it that "real sound" feel to me. First time I saw it was at a party on a pretty decent home setup. First time I noticed that in a movie and it stuck with me. Now I know it wasn't done in post.

@argonaut4063 5 лет назад

Dude, you forgot about the framing! In Heat we see a lot the character fireing and the the person he is fireing on at the same shot. We see, like the character only a silhouette in the distance, barely identyfiable. This, showing, what the character does and seeing what the character is seeing at the same time, slow enough to recognise the situation, but fast enough for the pace of the action. That puts me right in!

@juansandoval9235 5 лет назад

I saw this movie and didn't even notice how long it was, i guess thats how good it was

@Aaron3502 5 лет назад

Consider this comment a +1 to the "stop using premieres" crowd. Also consider it a commendation for yet another well put-together analysis video! Hope you keep at it, 'cause RU-vid's algorithm owes you a couple million subscribers!

@Filmento 5 лет назад

Noted.

@saniari4724 4 года назад

You are my legend. The analysis is absolutely amazing. Heat is one of the greatest movie ever made

@danielhady3021 5 лет назад

I've always felt that the sound was the understated hero of this scene. The guns in Heat sounded so loud and raw that it feels like you're there with the characters. Modern movies miss this important aspect of cinematography.

@commander31able60 5 лет назад

the real video game homage to this shootout is Kane & Lynch, the Tokyo skyscraper escape specifically. I'm Finnished.

@sinenomine8739 5 лет назад

Ikr. Frankly this game compensated it's poor gameplay with such amazing enviroment at the first 10 levels, which ones were perfectly suited for a criminal fiction.

@p.bamygdala2139 3 года назад

Great video! A few more thoughts: 1. We cared about all the main characters on both sides because we've spend down-time with them. We've seen them as real people in their private lives, warts and all. We know all sides of them. We understand them, relate with them, and respect them. 2. The characters on both sides have unfinished business and arcs that they need to return to. We can't let any of them die here, because they have lives and story threads that they need to return to, and complete. We even care about the secondary characters that they need to get home to. 3. The characters on both sides were established as experts in their fields, skilled, trained, experienced, as well as ruthless, meticulous, committed, and highly professional. We were well-prepared for a clash of titans. 4. And when their comrades fell and died, they couldn't afford to mourne or even emote. Because they couldn't, we did it in their place. And also because they couldn't, we felt even more pain for what they were suffering internally. 5. The entire movie up until here was about establishing a "what if" hypothesis, if they ever had to face one another. Would they each be willing to do what it takes to win? Those exact questions have been asked. Those exact challenges and threats have been issued. This was a movie ABOUT those questions. And now we were eager to see the answers. 6. The two main characters liked and respected each other. They had significant internal conflict. We felt that, too. We felt torn over who to root for! 7. The battlefield was multi-dimensional. It could go in any direction. We could spread our across the city in all directions. It was untethered, and so very tense. 8. We also felt acutely aware of the risk for everyone involved, cops, robbers, and innocent bystanders. And that's where the sound work helped. The echos of shots from one area carried over to other areas. It was a muddled cacophony, and disorienting -- which made us feel panicked, not knowing where a stray bullet could go, or where shot could come from. We felt the vulnerability of everyone.

@Mysticmegster1 2 года назад

Interesting that it would be the sound that swings it in Heat s favour. I remember watching it when it came out. Thought it was great then and glad to see it still is now!

@warmonger2500 3 года назад

I really enjoyed the shootout in Open Range. There are some small points where it bends reality, like our hero fanning his pistol and shooting waaay more than six rounds, but overall I really enjoyed it. It also has an excellent buildup to the final shootout.

@bird.8510 3 года назад

Yes. Guns are in fact LOUD. Heat got it right big time!

@washburn11000 3 года назад

When soldiers are shown this scene when they are in training, you know it's special lol

@MK-wl5ng 5 лет назад

Raiders of the Lost Ark. The bar shoot-out scene. When I first saw that in the theater, I never forgot how that sounded. Real sounding gun shots in their environment. After that, I’ve always paid attention to sound scapes in both movies & unique music. Was nice to watch your video here unfold and draw the same conclusion I did when I first saw this particular movie. Love your cinema analysis. Just discovered your channel. Thanks, and keep up the good work!

@dathorndike4908 3 месяца назад

There is nothing like watching Heat hooked up to a good audio system and cranking it loud during the bank heist shootout.

@Elementalism 5 лет назад

You nailed it. When I first saw the Heat shootout. The first thing that popped was the sound. Right away they were authentic with how loud they were and how the sound bounced off the buildings. Second was the location. I havent seen den of thieves. But I can see how the difference in location would change the feel of the gun fight. Den of Theives looks confined, controlled. Heat was in open streets with the chaos that brings.

@danieldevito6380 2 года назад

That intro was HILARIOUS... "pew pew pew pew... ow, ouch, ow, owie"... 🤣

@joshdelmundo5899 2 года назад

that weird cut when al pacino steadies his rifle vs when the shell actually gets ejected always gets me lol

@dizzt19 3 года назад

I'd add the scale of the location is crucial - all the empty space contrasted with the skyscrapers and the extras running around in panic. BTW the games Payday 1 and 2 are a fantastic hommage to Heat - especially the music and sound design.

@TheDemigans 4 года назад

Yes! Finally someone said it! Although I have trouble believing that other movies (and games) record the sounds on a gunrange. They must alter the sound somehow as the sound from games and most movies is too dulled and often too low to sound real. Having been at gunranges a handful of times the sound in games&movies and reality are nothing alike. You miss the loudness ofcourse, but HEAT makes up for that by using the sound on the location. A gunshot makes other sounds less audible, it echo's and changes with distance. Having listened to the Den of Thieves bit the sounds are similar to that of other movies and lose all that oomph you want the gun to have. I have the same problem with explosions. They are too long, too fiery and too slow. Looking at District 9 for example the explosions actually make you feel the power behind it. They are sudden, they dont obscure whatever they explode on but cause it to scatter and fly about in a ring of smoke and shockwaves. Why movies dont rely on such realism more is baffling. In the same vein its also awesome to use slow-motion and despite that have something speed through that slow-motion shot as if it wasnt slowed down. Such sound and visual information gives you the FEEL of what is happening.

@THE_BEAR_JEW 5 лет назад

I disagree with the reason. Den of Thieve's sound isn't that much worse than Heat's. The thing that sets Heat apart is the characters. I actually give a shit about them. With Den of Thieves, 50 Cent and Cheddar Bob were basically non-characters the entire movie. Might as well have been extras. Same with the cops. Aside from the main cop and the main thief, nobody in that shootout mattered. You basically took the only other interesting robber (Ice Cube 2.0) and set him off to the side. So all these people are getting shot and nobody cares. In Heat, we cared about the driver because he was a guy trying to do the right thing, get his life in order and all that, but he gives in because of how miserable he was with his clean life. We cared about the Cherito because he was the only one of the bunch who actually had money stashed away and was doing very well for himself. He was the one who really shouldn't have even gone to the robbery. Chris got a looooot of backstory in the movie too. You know his marital situation, you know his wife is cheating on him, you know he's got addictions, and you know he's got son who he might lose in a custody battle. And with De Niro, you simply get finally see just how badass he is. His perfect plan falls apart before his very eyes and he has to improvise a way to get the fuck outta there. Shootouts matter when the crew matters. Point Break's heist scene was awesome because you spent time with the robbers and even though not all of them have outstanding personalities, you do get to see them hang out and be real people. To me that's the closest any movie has come to putting together a crew you care about aside from Heat. What's also interesting is that in both, things fall apart, one robber dies, and it happens nowhere near the end of the movie... so this makes you wonder what's gonna happen. You know it's not the end... there's an escape and and after-chase. That just heightens the stakes of the heist because you know the characters who do live on will matter for the last 1/3 of the movie.

@DamienDarksideBlog 5 лет назад

You know what? When I was reading this, I think I also realized why I like Lucky Number Slevin and Ocean's Eleven (but none of the sequels) and that is the character interaction and the bonds I had with them.

@ethanperreault7470 5 лет назад

I totally agree with this point but I do think the sound has to play into it. I've been to a gun range plenty of times (not saying you havent) and the sounds you hear in and outside just dont sound anything like post production you hear in many movies nowadays. Guns dont really have a distinctive sound in general terms, its just very loud and static. I've watched many other shootout scenes and even the one from Den of Thieves (Obviously), and the sound just doesnt add up in my opinion. But I totally agree with the points in the video and your point, the characters, background knowledge, location, these all play a huge part in the immersion and vibe that the scene outputs.

@bellator11 5 лет назад

Sorry but the main reason is definitely the sound, I've yet to see another movie recreate the sheer loudness of gunfire as well as HEAT did it.

@fankdaggot8961 5 лет назад

I wish i could agree with you, but the sounds are the closest you’re gonna get to the real thing. It’s so goddamn loud and it’s beautiful

@eddy4688 5 лет назад

You are right, probably the most important thing for any movie is having characters that the audience cares about, if you haven't got that then you haven't got a good film, casting is absolutely key.

@Unclebooyeh 3 года назад

great video. enjoyed every second of it man

@luket.7468 11 месяцев назад

Thoroughly enjoyed your take on this

@shin19656 4 года назад

Dr Strangelove has one of the best shootout scenes in Hollywood the cinematography feels like WW2 , yet my favorite is Heat it’s just superb

@kid1027 11 месяцев назад

i love the mic max out effect heat uses for gun sounds, it sounds like bodycam footage firing

@nefariousgremlin7554 2 года назад

I think the color grading has something to do with it too. Something about the cold blue of the Heat shootout makes it more uncomfortable, more realistic in that it's toned down

@keithjackson4985 4 года назад

Late to the party. The shootout in heat is what fire teams have done for years! I've been out 20yrs and we watched this all the time while I was in. No one moves unless someone is shooting. Always sound off when you have to reload. Perfectly filmed.

@TheScottishSpartan 5 лет назад

Former members of the SAS were technical advisors on Heat, so that probably helped ensure a realistic portrayal of small unit tactics.

@knutpalmqvist 5 лет назад

It is worth to watch all 3 hours of this movie just to se the amazing ending of the movie.

@billkittleman9631 5 лет назад

It established itself as quite a template .. there have been quite a few films since that have "borrowed" at least one element from it, maybe as some sort of nod or tribute to its masterful brilliance 👌

@endlessfreedomful 3 года назад

the real recording of gun shooting, UNBELIEVABLE!

@beomjinko 4 года назад

awesome analysis

@abdelfiala 3 года назад

Absolutely, the sound

@heraldhermes879 Год назад

I saw this in the theaters when it came out, the film was so engrossing, it so completely occupied my mind. I remember having to work at sort of re-incorporating myself back to reality.

@DeusExAstra 5 лет назад

Absolutely the best shootout scene in any movie ever. And I agree, the audio is a huge part of it.

@FOGHEAD_ 4 года назад

This was such a great video! 👊

@onemoreminute0543 Год назад

Absolutely classic scene!

@fillybuster 4 года назад

great vid!

@gyanrosling2226 Год назад

Another example is the chase scene from the 1995 film ghost in the shell. The reason that scene hits so hard is because of the sound design.

@scottewing2031 3 года назад

Great presentation.

@Rigger94 4 года назад

Raid: Escape from Tarkov, has some crazy awesome firefights. Which is kinda insane considering the creators are video game producers. By no means a incredible in-depth story like Heat, but definitely check out for the firefights.