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Patrick Bet-David and the Home Team have a heated debate with Liz Wheeler about Andrew Tate and whether or not he's good for society.
▶ PBD Podcast | Episode 309
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Комментарии : 14 тыс.   
@LightOfAllMankind
@LightOfAllMankind 8 месяцев назад
Adam: “I want your opinion” *gets answer* Also Adam: “well, that’s like, just your opinion”
@jamescordova1796
@jamescordova1796 8 месяцев назад
LMAO I'm so glad someone else saw this too
@evanluna116
@evanluna116 8 месяцев назад
Can't stand Adam's attitude
@michaelthomas229
@michaelthomas229 8 месяцев назад
@@evanluna116dude got a predator mind if he don’t watch out he may find his as in prison 💯 😂
@thomascee
@thomascee 8 месяцев назад
Lol truth right? 🙄🙄 Even moderate liberalism twists your brain in strange ways it seems 😬
@katherinefullbody4635
@katherinefullbody4635 8 месяцев назад
Lmao
@robertneill4903
@robertneill4903 8 месяцев назад
Adam strays from the point of a conversation further than I go on holiday 😂
@SkywalkerWroc
@SkywalkerWroc 8 месяцев назад
She hurt his Tate fanboyism, and that cannot stand, lol
@mike287slashm7
@mike287slashm7 8 месяцев назад
Indeed. Not everyone wants Tates life.
@lebohangmohapi8605
@lebohangmohapi8605 8 месяцев назад
Adam was at his most impressive here.
@CeeBarrio1
@CeeBarrio1 8 месяцев назад
Early lifer as they do they always do
@agontop1
@agontop1 8 месяцев назад
😂😂
@JSDolly-qc4bh
@JSDolly-qc4bh 4 месяца назад
I really don’t understand why PBD thinks Adam brings anything of value to his table.
@romoore2094
@romoore2094 2 месяца назад
He's a partner in the podcast so he's stuck
@TheRealCrimdor
@TheRealCrimdor 2 месяца назад
He’s more than a partner, he’s a friend and a voice of a different point of view. We need to hear from eachother if you agree or disagree and it’s always important to hear from those that have a different world view from your own.
@playz8538
@playz8538 Месяц назад
@@TheRealCrimdor this only applies if the other point of view is not stupid.
@breal6718
@breal6718 Месяц назад
TRUST FAM ADAM SOSNICK IS A WEIZEL AND AN ANDREW TATE SYMPATHISER PLACING HIM AT THE HALFWAY MARK OF RAPEY ANDREW AND TRISTEN TATE ARE LITERALLY RAPEY AND IF THERE WAS NO LAW I GUARANTEE THEYD HAPPILY RAPE WOMEN ITS CLEAR TO SEE HOW DISGUSTINGLY LOW THEY THINK...... OH AND ALSO THE TATE BROTGER RELIGION OF CHOICE IS RAPEY ASWEL....... THE WORST RELIGION IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW. TATES ARE DISGUSTING JIHAD IS DISGUSTING NUFF SAID
@breal6718
@breal6718 Месяц назад
@@TheRealCrimdor NO DUDE ITS WORSE THEN JUST BEING VARIED ADAM SOSNICK ALWAYS TALKS TRASH AND HE BRINGS NOTHING BUT IGNORANCE AND DIGRESSION AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF MORE WORTHY VARIETY OF PEOPLE TO CHOOSE WHO WOULD BE FAR BETTER THEN THAT LITTLE WIEZEL ADAM SOSNICK
@notsure3838
@notsure3838 5 месяцев назад
It comes across like this man is arguing for the sake of arguing. He talks in circles and never even makes a point, but he's quick to tell someone that makes a good point that they're wrong.
@CountMeOut33
@CountMeOut33 2 месяца назад
Grifter
@vazo1489
@vazo1489 8 месяцев назад
It’s hard to listen to Adam and not lose brain cells
@renevanzyl7084
@renevanzyl7084 8 месяцев назад
Truth 😂
@muktadirhasan345
@muktadirhasan345 8 месяцев назад
Yeah😂
@infallibl
@infallibl 8 месяцев назад
So you only had to listen to him for one second..?
@groovemaster8632
@groovemaster8632 8 месяцев назад
FOR REAL!!!!
@MostAlpha
@MostAlpha 8 месяцев назад
Adam is the smartest retard in the room.
@heathdetweilerRealtor
@heathdetweilerRealtor 8 месяцев назад
Adam refusing to answer her question about if he thinks that behavior is destructive was…embarrassing.
@nomdeguerre8464
@nomdeguerre8464 8 месяцев назад
As is PBD keeping him around.
@nomdeguerre8464
@nomdeguerre8464 8 месяцев назад
@dgee7931 that doesn't mean he doesn't have a bad take.
@larky368
@larky368 7 месяцев назад
He was afraid to say it was repugnant because he still wants to be Tate's boyfriend.@@dgee7931
@MichaelEWinkler
@MichaelEWinkler 4 дня назад
Not embarrassing but revealing because the more Adam does this stuff the more viewers such as yourself and me see through his BS and the fact that Adam simply brings absolutely nothing of value to this podcast and PBD needs to cut him loose sooner rather than later.
@rexnemovi6061
@rexnemovi6061 4 месяца назад
Liz represents the rare combination of getting it right and being able to communicate it effectively.
@MSCLEManifest
@MSCLEManifest 4 месяца назад
that tates message is pornography and manipulating women? lets stop right there lol
@MrZZsharka
@MrZZsharka 4 месяца назад
Not exactly, Andrew Tate didn’t get famous from pornography (running a business similar to only fans/before only fans existed) he got famous after speaking his mind bluntly like a sledge hammer which pissed Feminists off.
@rexnemovi6061
@rexnemovi6061 4 месяца назад
@@MrZZsharka Can you be more specific about how what you say contradicts what I have said?
@PaperrCutttt
@PaperrCutttt 4 месяца назад
@@MrZZsharka yes he did, keep praising societal mental illed norms.
@TheMINDL3SSGamers
@TheMINDL3SSGamers 4 месяца назад
Tate said you have to date them lmfao. Where is the manipulation? She’s mad because she doesn’t like the word strategy, as if dressing nice, going to a place to find girls, and maybe buying them dinner, ISNT a strategy. It’s absurd
@missesse111
@missesse111 5 месяцев назад
She was nailing it the whole time, and he kept missing it lol.
@EzoShairei
@EzoShairei 2 месяца назад
another feminist spotted go kiss Andrew ass
@kibawhitefang7176
@kibawhitefang7176 6 месяцев назад
Liz was spot on when she elevated men who are godly. 🕊️
@came7494
@came7494 8 месяцев назад
She absolutely destroyed Adam and just ran mental circles around him.
@themodfather9382
@themodfather9382 8 месяцев назад
I can only imagine their response to this comment section, lmao.
@dcamz6875
@dcamz6875 8 месяцев назад
The comment section is usually pretty objective and honest so the response is simple is SHE COOKED HIM
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 8 месяцев назад
Liz failed to explain why she thinks Tate’s message is self-destructive. Being boyfriend of virgins is bad? Wahhh. The uck
@zpaztrik1418
@zpaztrik1418 8 месяцев назад
​@@LeadLeftLeonoh you again, Guru tate disciple hurt? Oh my goodness!
@dcamz6875
@dcamz6875 8 месяцев назад
@@LeadLeftLeon it is bad if your only goal in being with the girl is to take her virginity and if You plan to dump her as soon as that happens Yea that is wrong.
@NicksPinoy
@NicksPinoy 5 месяцев назад
I don't understand how you can possibly defend Tristan's advice here. The woman was absolutely spot on about the Tate's message of materialism and thinking of women as objects. I, as a woman, also agree that masculinity is under attack in the west and the Tate brothers also explain and describe it flawlessly, however, their prescription of how to go about it is where I draw the lines.
@dontbesad_
@dontbesad_ 5 месяцев назад
Watch more of their content. The message is far deeper than the 15 second clips. A lot of the "older" (not that old) content is not spoken seriously and has been corrected in more recent times. As a man, we need them.. I love them, and whether they prescribe good or bad, people have a choice to act on that or not.
@TimocinZ
@TimocinZ 3 месяца назад
i dont understand how you can throw out lies. No one in this video said that what tristan said about taking viriginites was good. They are talking about 99% of the other things they preach. Fucking tiktok brains out here not understanding simple words.
@RussiaIsARiddle778
@RussiaIsARiddle778 3 месяца назад
I think girls should be taught by a parent that there are always going to be men like this. If your daughter does not have a male and female role model that can prepare them for the world, I would hope you would get involved in your church or big brothers or big sisters, etc. They need to see positive relationships modeled so they will know how to choose a wisely. This is not a Tate problem, this is a parenting problem.
@user-cn8he1rb9d
@user-cn8he1rb9d 3 месяца назад
Women telling men how to be men. 😂😂😂😂.. The Tates all the way
@BalajiIAS-yi3hq
@BalajiIAS-yi3hq 2 месяца назад
No one can destroy masculinity
@IkeCreed
@IkeCreed 5 месяцев назад
This is why I follow Andrew Tate as a 24 year old Man: “You're as competent as possible if you believe absolutely everything that's happened to you whether good or bad is completely your fault.” -Andrew Tate “The man who goes to the gym every single day regardless of how he feels will always beat the man who goes to the gym when he feels like going to the gym.” -Andrew Tate “The temporary satisfaction of quitting is outweighed by the eternal suffering of being a nobody.” -Andrew Tate
@dumbichhxx
@dumbichhxx 5 месяцев назад
I agree. And there's like literally maybe 30 more of these. The guy's actually on another level.
@IkeCreed
@IkeCreed 5 месяцев назад
@@dumbichhxx It’s great to know there are other young men seeking masculine achievement. I don’t think people realize you can disagree with 25% of what somebody says and still learn from the 75% of good they bring.
@Somberdemure
@Somberdemure 5 месяцев назад
Grow up and stop being a follower.
@vincetaliaferro2777
@vincetaliaferro2777 5 месяцев назад
Hes the leader we all needed. That Spartan style of speech that gets us off our ass and keeps us moving. With a righteous purpose based on masculinity and brotherhood its beautiful.
@thomaschamper2120
@thomaschamper2120 5 месяцев назад
Those are some pretty nice quotes, definitely inspiring, but doesnt change the fact that the guy is a total scum bag.
@knightfalcon63
@knightfalcon63 8 месяцев назад
As someone who agrees with some of Tates messages, she was completely right on this topic. Adam made zero sense and was clearly talking as a bachelor. I’ve always agreed with PBD but she’s right when she told PBD he wouldn’t like that message for his daughter so how could he like it for all of society?
@BonusHole
@BonusHole 8 месяцев назад
When it comes down to it BPD will shill whatever he thinks is good for his business. These people are not principled people, they are about attention, adverts and money. BPD claims he's a Christian. I smell bullshit.
@trombonefellow
@trombonefellow 8 месяцев назад
Easy, he can protect his daughter hes not responsible for society and the choices majority of women make on their own anyway
@Apatxi1022
@Apatxi1022 8 месяцев назад
Thought the same thing. She swept the floor with Adam. Was just a good video of Tate. Bad take in my opinion
@AJ........
@AJ........ 8 месяцев назад
Adam never makes sense. He's a cringe boomer living in a millennial body
@davestallone
@davestallone 8 месяцев назад
Agreed
@romyclips6479
@romyclips6479 8 месяцев назад
Hate to say it but Adam looked incredibly ignorant in this segment. Adam: What is the most important quality you look for in a man? Liz: I look for a man that's Godly. Adam: That's just your opinion. Liz: Yeah, because you asked for my opinion. Adam: You want a Godly man, why didn't you marry a priest? Liz: Preists aren't allowed to get married, Adam. 🤣
@cmonman3639
@cmonman3639 8 месяцев назад
When does Adam *not* sound ignorant?
@GEDDY37
@GEDDY37 8 месяцев назад
What is godly? Shud I google it?
@rogermoore3991
@rogermoore3991 8 месяцев назад
@@GEDDY37strong believe in higher power. Are you 10
@bryan101384
@bryan101384 8 месяцев назад
​@@GEDDY37Seriously? A man that follows God's word as in the Bible. A man who doesn't run around fornicating and values marriage and the principals of the Bible above all. Maybe you should read the Bible and use Google less.
@danielj3010
@danielj3010 8 месяцев назад
hilarious
@georgecausil
@georgecausil 5 месяцев назад
It is shocking to see men as educated and accomplished as Patrick and Adam sacrifice their critical thinking at the alter of old fashion alpha male egotism. Patrick even went so far as to throw his own daughters under the bus in favour of Andre Tate's brand of masculine influence, which he himself admitted he wouldn't want for his own daughters. And when Liz Wheeler called him out on it he doubled down because he would prefer his daughters live in a world of men influenced by Andrew Tate instead of a world influenced by men like Steven Bartlett. I pity his children.
@essietel1196
@essietel1196 5 месяцев назад
Really poor logic from PBD. The question was not "Are the Tate bros preferable to leftist indoctrination?".
@amiraa10101
@amiraa10101 4 месяца назад
Love how Adam patronizes her in every sentence… 🤦‍♀️ still trying to understand why he’s on the show 🫠
@larrylacoursiere1264
@larrylacoursiere1264 Месяц назад
OMG me too!! Clearly PBD is a intellectual being but a couple of his friends, NOT SO MUCH!!
@MichaelEWinkler
@MichaelEWinkler 4 дня назад
who knows...Adam should have been fired a very long time ago, he is complete dead weight and a total embarrassment for the rest of the host on this podcast!
@barryklinger5229
@barryklinger5229 8 месяцев назад
Adam: Asks Liz her opinion on personal preferences. Liz: Answers Adam: But that's your opinion.
@kmallen88
@kmallen88 8 месяцев назад
Exactly! Oh that twat is so infuriating. PBD is a fraud, too, but he could gain an ounce of credibility if he let go of Adam.
@snyperghost2262
@snyperghost2262 8 месяцев назад
Liz married a wealthy individual who is successful. She could have married an average man but she didn't. She's a effing hypocrite.
@RedVelvetBlackleather
@RedVelvetBlackleather 8 месяцев назад
He wanted her to say she liked rich man to defend his daddy’s Tristen and Andrew but she was too based.
@snyperghost2262
@snyperghost2262 8 месяцев назад
@@RedVelvetBlackleather yet she married a wealthy above average individual. She's a hypocrite and she knows it I know it.
@RedVelvetBlackleather
@RedVelvetBlackleather 8 месяцев назад
@@snyperghost2262 Don’t know her husband most people tend to marry within their social economic level she’s wealthy so her social circle was wealthy he’s not giving her anything she couldn’t attain herself from what I’ve seen.
@keviii505
@keviii505 7 месяцев назад
If I had a dollar for every time PBD told Adam "Where are you going with this" ...🤣🤣🤣
@BearKlaw
@BearKlaw 6 месяцев назад
Lmao ikr
@divineflight1221
@divineflight1221 5 месяцев назад
Yall gotta read her books she so smart
@DoorlessBasher
@DoorlessBasher 5 месяцев назад
I think he was maybe stoned?
@DoorlessBasher
@DoorlessBasher 5 месяцев назад
He's stoned. I'm seeing it the farther this goes. Completely missed her point, the whole point.
@Kamila-eb9pz
@Kamila-eb9pz 4 месяца назад
The men in here are just talking nonsense, not addressing the problem of tate promoting misogyny and talking about other things
@welliciamiller
@welliciamiller 4 месяца назад
Sir there are manyyyy women that have been in relationships with men that were not rich, and stayed with them FOR YEARSSSSSSSSS
@hexxxplicittruth6443
@hexxxplicittruth6443 5 месяцев назад
Liz was the clear winner of logic, reasoning, and understanding.
@AllHandlesRTaken
@AllHandlesRTaken 5 месяцев назад
💯
@NickisWise
@NickisWise 8 месяцев назад
Adam gave a good lesson on how to intentionally misrepresent your opponent in a debate because you simply want to win. Liz was 100% right on this topic. I’m a Tate fan but man… big yikes, Tristan.
@veln74
@veln74 8 месяцев назад
Lol no.
@NickisWise
@NickisWise 8 месяцев назад
I’m a Tate fan. I like a lot of what they say. But that video of Tristan was disgusting. Not at all how I would want my sons or daughters to view Sex and Marriage. I chew the meat and spit out the bones when it comes to them. Adam was biased because he tried to defend the Tates versus the ideology that they were debating. Liz just spoke directly and truthfully.
@beebah90
@beebah90 8 месяцев назад
Yep she was, Adam looked like a fool
@lightbeings6243
@lightbeings6243 8 месяцев назад
@@NickisWise Thats an old video..they are in process of learning now...iA you ll see they ll change for good..Give time to.reformers..
@NickisWise
@NickisWise 8 месяцев назад
@@lightbeings6243 I’m a Tate fan. They have matured a bit, but they still absolutely make their money from vile things such as pornography and only fans. They hide it a bit more nowadays, because they know it’s disgusting. Again, I do like them but I’m not a blind idiot.
@theconsciouscorgi2103
@theconsciouscorgi2103 8 месяцев назад
You could tell PBD was disappointed in Adam and his dialogue with Liz , almost like he was embarrassed to have him as a cohost. The comments don’t lie, Adam just needs to branch off and do his own podcast . We all know he is drooling to have his own version of Fresh and Fit .
@alicedoors4826
@alicedoors4826 8 месяцев назад
Adam has his own podcast, I don't remember what it's called but it's under the valuetainment brand.
@bobjohnson1633
@bobjohnson1633 8 месяцев назад
Liz knows exactly what the tates are saying and they are bad. She is correct and you are advocating for self avowed rapists and traffickers
@namesshmames
@namesshmames 8 месяцев назад
Adam is an idiot. wish it was just PBD and the other loud guy, he’s funny
@alyssawork8337
@alyssawork8337 8 месяцев назад
PBD has cognitive dissonance when it comes to the Tates. How can you say you like a person but then use their behaviour on video to warn his daughters about potential threats (predatory behaviour) that may cause then harm. Not sure how one can like someone who admits to predatory acts, where is the line of unacceptable behaviour? …he acts like a predator to women but then helps a bunch of guys to work out so in the end it is net positive….this is a slippery slope for societies and will lead to further deterioration.
@alyssawork8337
@alyssawork8337 8 месяцев назад
Societies cannot flourish if it is acceptable behaviour to dehumanize a cohort…initially it will seem like it is working for a set of people but it will rapidly decay into chaos. You would be basically teaching young men to become sociopaths.
@ir3450
@ir3450 5 месяцев назад
Liz is on point. As a man being Godly is a primary goal of mine. The tates, as successful as they are, have a skewed moral compass. The mix positive male messages with destructive relationship practices abd dynamics. They confuse young ment into believing personal success is related to promiscuity.
@napsterdeus5770
@napsterdeus5770 2 месяца назад
Unfortunately- success is related to it. But not the quality one .
@romoore2094
@romoore2094 2 месяца назад
That is Liz s point which is great but there are those who don't hold that value which I think is the other side of this argument. If a girl is not seeking a godly man, she'll most likely fall pray to a playboy, but honestly, many young girls fall for the wrong guy more than not
@MT-UK
@MT-UK 2 месяца назад
They do have a different moral compass for sure - but they’ve done more in fighting this current battle against men being demasculinised … Liz said it herself.. now yes Godly is being important but right now the woke left has taken hold on men in society and are being attacked Tates have done more to fight that than any current ‘godly’ influencer - to think that us as men can’t distinguish the good from the bad in the Tates message (which let’s be honest a lot of it is exaggerated and is a character Tare has made as it has proven to bring the attention it has) is an insult to us. I don’t agree with a lot of what the Tates say, but I applaud that they stand up against the nonsense we are seeing in the far left and at least are bringing the fight to them.
@judiechamblee9581
@judiechamblee9581 2 месяца назад
All men want a virgin....understand that...and why?...is that the only mark of virtue?....it is much more fun to drive a car alongside of somebody who knows how to drive theirs..its safer and much more fun to go fast and race with each other...
@jayslt4223
@jayslt4223 Месяц назад
Let me tell you something do you have any realization on the sexual marketplace in 2024?. I bet you you're over 50 saying some stupid shit like this when the average 25 year old woman has 30 bodies turn off compared to 5 for men
@stone34
@stone34 5 месяцев назад
Pat who idolizes Dumbo Donnie also idolizes Andrew Tate and his brother. Why am I NOT surprised. And yet Pat said he doesn't want his girls dating such guys and then says the Tate Brothers are good for society. God Help us
@stephanieonanuga5306
@stephanieonanuga5306 Месяц назад
Confusion of the highest order
@davidpereira4567
@davidpereira4567 8 месяцев назад
Dude the amount of times Adam asked Liz to explain her point… cmon man, quit stalling lmao. Pat clearly explains his point and Liz actually made a fantastic point.
@flch95
@flch95 8 месяцев назад
Have to agree with Liz here.
@idionym6817
@idionym6817 8 месяцев назад
Liz has the drop. Adam proves himself to be the tool that he consistently is.
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 8 месяцев назад
PBD is brilliant to put them in a face off 👍⚡️💪
@peasant7214
@peasant7214 8 месяцев назад
Yes why don't they replace him I never find him add anything of value to the discussion.
@twinkletoes6290
@twinkletoes6290 8 месяцев назад
@@peasant7214seriously!
@peasant7214
@peasant7214 8 месяцев назад
@@twinkletoes6290 yes seriously I never liked what he says. PBD questions on the other hand are usually on point and addresses the issue, and his defense of tate here was much better than this Adam, and he talked 10 times less.
@arturoramiroes
@arturoramiroes 5 месяцев назад
She's a keeper, congrats to her husband. About these brothers, they teach how to become what they are NOW. That's the danger, they are not fulfilled, they are just successful.
@dereckwarren6276
@dereckwarren6276 4 месяца назад
Awesome discussion 👏🏽. Keep bringing content like this. Very interesting and helpful!!! God bless 🙌 🙏🏾
@johnnysheehy
@johnnysheehy 8 месяцев назад
She wiped the floor with Adam. It's actually the perfect way to defeat his tawdry style of argumentation. He tries to take her off the actual point where he knows he doesn't have a case, but she stays right on it. Then he uses his hyperbole and attributes it to the other side, but she demands clarification. Giving him all the rope he needs. Lovely to see.
@stevenseagal4664
@stevenseagal4664 8 месяцев назад
rofl the only thing she wipes is her ass. She made 0 argument and is part of the establishment trying to feminize men.
@YungPhilosopher
@YungPhilosopher 8 месяцев назад
Yeah he’s not intelligent or articulate at all. He provided a poor defense for Tate. I guarantee I would do better lol. Tate brothers best role models for men. The first clip she showed there was nothing wrong with that. Every man who is a player lies to women or sells them a dream to some degree. Consensually dating a virgin to one day smash her isn’t illegal or immoral.
@MisterK-YT
@MisterK-YT 8 месяцев назад
@@YungPhilosopherYou’re hilarious. I don’t dislike the Tates at all, but they’ve done many things that directly hurt the men they claim to help (like screwing them out of money by tricking them, and also tricking women into losing their virginity, but then telling guys they should pursue virgins cuz they have less trauma. It’s like if I convinced you that you should only drink from the unopened bottles of liquor at the bar, but then I walked up to the bar and started opening every bottle just for fun). I understand you’re a Tate stan, and that’s fine - I bet if I hung out with them I’d really like them. But you have a very surface level understanding of life & society if you think they’re the greatest role models for men. Their advice can be _helpful_ for young men (at least in the short term), but that doesn’t make it good.
@24wallachian
@24wallachian 8 месяцев назад
@@YungPhilosopher So because every man who is a player tricks and manipulates women, there is nothing wrong with that? So we are now assessing the moral status of certain acts based on how many people commit those acts???? You, sir, are disgusting.
@louisebrown4622
@louisebrown4622 8 месяцев назад
She won hands down poor Adam was castrated “live” on air
@JimmyKlien1
@JimmyKlien1 8 месяцев назад
Liz: Andrew is manipulative Adam: Game is game!
@StanHowse
@StanHowse 8 месяцев назад
As if Women aren't Manipulative.. No, the problem with Liz, is that "Women are Innocent, Priceless, Princesses" and "Men, All Men are just "gross pigs only out to fck".
@jaydenandrews02
@jaydenandrews02 8 месяцев назад
😂😂😂
@bobjohnson1633
@bobjohnson1633 8 месяцев назад
Adam just admitting he is an evil scumbag
@Chasebanks523
@Chasebanks523 8 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂
@OctavianAsix
@OctavianAsix 8 месяцев назад
How do you define game, then?
@hemantpersaud2377
@hemantpersaud2377 5 месяцев назад
Yes, there is your answer, thanks for coming
@delmiller7572
@delmiller7572 4 месяца назад
Adam is intolerant of anyone who disagrees with him. I bypass and skip over him these days. Not sure why PBD has him on his staff.
@kariemallam3618
@kariemallam3618 8 месяцев назад
He really said “welcome to modern day dating” unbelievable
@ephraimsondoyi9966
@ephraimsondoyi9966 2 месяца назад
He was actually reasonable because that's how it is
@kariemallam3618
@kariemallam3618 2 месяца назад
@@ephraimsondoyi9966 sorry to hear that’s your experience
@susiem.2068
@susiem.2068 Месяц назад
​@ephraimsondoyi9966 It's not. You need to find better circles to hang out around.
@vv93041t
@vv93041t 7 месяцев назад
Adam is the guy everyone looks at the party and thinks, should we tell him?
@stephlon6757
@stephlon6757 7 месяцев назад
LOL
@makingthecoin3647
@makingthecoin3647 7 месяцев назад
Tell him already
@HK-tk4ix
@HK-tk4ix 7 месяцев назад
The dude is a fucking idiot. He isn’t able to articulate his points clearly.
@conquerthyselffirst8615
@conquerthyselffirst8615 7 месяцев назад
Lmao
@debonairbeast1010
@debonairbeast1010 7 месяцев назад
spoken like a true simp or a modern western woman. either way "congrats"
@navinansal7879
@navinansal7879 5 месяцев назад
She’s right
@foedeer
@foedeer 5 месяцев назад
Adam is out of his league. Perhaps his arguments and gaslighting would work well with the women of tiktok, but not an educated woman such as Liz and this has nothing to do with conservatism. Killed it Liz ❤
@andysauro1500
@andysauro1500 8 месяцев назад
Adam's arguing the same emotional way he used to in 2020 and 2021.
@manoftomorrow5987
@manoftomorrow5987 8 месяцев назад
He's stuck in "the matrix"
@clownworld360
@clownworld360 8 месяцев назад
adam is low in test he needs to hit the gym bro
@clownworld360
@clownworld360 8 месяцев назад
@@manoftomorrow5987😂
@petem9063
@petem9063 8 месяцев назад
He’s loosing me more and more every time he speaks.
@danieljones9823
@danieljones9823 8 месяцев назад
Adam is their to bring a different perspective and it makes PBD look brilliant.
@TheKiltedGerman
@TheKiltedGerman 8 месяцев назад
Liz definitely won that argument, at least the rational side of it. The Tate brothers advertise just another form of the hedonistic lifestyle. The guy defending them just makes excuses for being hedonistic.
@pejv7903
@pejv7903 8 месяцев назад
I don't think you've actually listened to Tates if you think they advertise a form of hedonistic lifestyle. Especially the "advertise" part.
@hellucination9905
@hellucination9905 8 месяцев назад
It's narcissistic self-worship. It's essentially satanic. Tate is a narcissist like his father.
@ginowitveld954
@ginowitveld954 8 месяцев назад
@@pejv7903I agree with you. Nice to see that I’m not the only one who thinks this way. She just showed a short clip of Tristan. And than followed with a bunch of BS.
@tylerware2836
@tylerware2836 8 месяцев назад
@@pejv7903i dont think youve listened to them…. They rebranded after the arrest and stopped but they literally sold hour long courses on how to be a pimp.
@pejv7903
@pejv7903 8 месяцев назад
I'm not defending them being pimps, and I never will. I also never mentioned anything regarding pimping, seems like you don't understand what hedonism is.@@tylerware2836
@mossaabmhf8656
@mossaabmhf8656 2 месяца назад
The only thing i learn from adam is that silence can be waaay better than talking sometimes …
@eugenepitout8727
@eugenepitout8727 4 месяца назад
Well done Liz, you are a champion
@philipbrister
@philipbrister 8 месяцев назад
She gets it. He doesn't get that he doesn't get it.
@yourmatetom
@yourmatetom 8 месяцев назад
Ironic. Adam debating from an emotional place, and Liz killing it with logic and facts. Bravo 👏
@genkimachina
@genkimachina 8 месяцев назад
Funny to see the "grown ass man" argue like an emotional woman
@DaPhreshestKidd
@DaPhreshestKidd 8 месяцев назад
How they defend andrew tate is blowing my mind
@xyz0zyx
@xyz0zyx 8 месяцев назад
Liz is arguing a strawman. When you don't frame the facts properly, and if you don't know what the facts are to begin with, then it can sound convincing. But she's 100% dead wrong.
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 8 месяцев назад
If anything neither Adam nor Liz were able to get started. Liz struggled to explain why she thinks Tate’s message is self-destructive
@xyz0zyx
@xyz0zyx 8 месяцев назад
@@LeadLeftLeon It's not self destructive at all. Liz misrepresented the Tristan clip and Adam fell for her trap. Tristan wasn't teaching men to go out hunting for virgins deliberately. He's talking about how to approach virgins when you do encounter them, and to do so with patience, take your time with her, take it slow, not forcefully, and genuinely treat her nicely. He did not say anything about deceiving her. He had always been open about being a playboy and is surrounded by women. He wasn't hiding that from the virgins nor did he tell men to play with their feelings either. He also did not insinuate pump and dump, or ghosting. He's talking about dating strategy, a framework, to successful navigate these situations, because most men don't have a strategy when it comes to dating, which is why they often mess things up, and not know how to navigate relationships. Liz has crazy Tate Derangement Syndrome and completely misrepresents the Tates. Also, PBD didn't say he doesn't like that kind of message for her daughters. He's saying, understand that some men have multiple women, and so understand what they're walking into as far as expectations, then make an informed decision, whether they choose to continue to date the playboy or not. He didn't frame it as a threat to her daughters.
@user-ij9qp5vw3y
@user-ij9qp5vw3y 5 месяцев назад
Adam is such a smooth brain. I agree with a lot of things that Andrew Tate says but Liz is making an excellent point. The video with Tristan is disgusting.
@aad6613
@aad6613 2 месяца назад
So sad to watch people with daughters defending this kind of behavior.
@whynot1548
@whynot1548 8 месяцев назад
Even PBD didn't get where Adam was going.......hell, Adam didn't even know where he was going lol
@OfficialFA
@OfficialFA 2 месяца назад
Top G = "Top Gangster"..😂😂🤦‍♂️
@har.19
@har.19 Месяц назад
😂😂😂
@foxyou3716
@foxyou3716 8 месяцев назад
I don’t understand how anyone could watch that video of Tristan and say that’s a “positive message” or come out in support of that.. Liz made great points one after another, and totally bodied Adam in that conversation. I wouldn’t even call that a “debate”…
@tjcogger1974
@tjcogger1974 8 месяцев назад
You completely missed the point of the discussion. That clip is obviously not a positive message. No one on the panel thinks it's a positive message. The point of this debate was to discuss whether the Tates are a net positive or a net negative on the world. No one in the video defended the clip.
@smebl0
@smebl0 8 месяцев назад
Please trim your Pussy.
@theoverunderthinker
@theoverunderthinker 8 месяцев назад
I think women get mad when a man they don't want figures out how to appear to them as a man they do. women like to be able to go into the world of men and pick the man they want and then have them be what they expect them to be. so if you show a man how to pretend to be a different type of man than they would normally present as, it makes their job of finding a man they want who will commit to them. they want it to be easy. this makes it less easy. that's why they don't like a video like that existing. because if a woman was making a similar video on "securing the bag" from men... crickets. you know makes a mark easier to grift? their own greed. so before you cry about women being misled, consider that.
@ReeVoque
@ReeVoque 8 месяцев назад
@@theoverunderthinker In addition to what you've stated, there also tends to be an oxymoron in what attracts them. The less they know about the man, the more appealing he is to them. It allows them wiggle room for the imagination to envision what they want him to be, thus increasing the attraction based on how they perceive the man in their mind. There's an almost impossible overlap of being mysterious enough to keep her on her toes, but also giving her enough information so she is satisfied.
@theoverunderthinker
@theoverunderthinker 8 месяцев назад
@@ReeVoque I agree, but not all women function that way and the weird part, women who don't subscribe to those mentalities tend to make better relationship choices (in my experience). probably because they are looking at what is in front of them and not what they expect to get out of it in the future. and to be fair: a lot of men could benefit from the same insights, it just plays out differently because the have different goals, but on some level it is a human thing as well.
@ernestobenito839
@ernestobenito839 5 месяцев назад
Adam was totally destroyed here. Trying to defend something that cannot be defend.
@user-lw6sj3ec4f
@user-lw6sj3ec4f 4 месяца назад
Not certain what to make of this!!
@A_To_The_O
@A_To_The_O 8 месяцев назад
Adam is a perfect example of how little most ppl in the modern world take the time to carefully think things through. As William James once said, "A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
@xyz0zyx
@xyz0zyx 8 месяцев назад
Liz’s arguing from false underlying premise, which is why she can still make a logically sound argument and be wrong.
@whynot1548
@whynot1548 8 месяцев назад
Really dude? The evidence against the Tate brothers is overwhelming. They're not heroes or in any decent
@LookMeInTheStraps
@LookMeInTheStraps 8 месяцев назад
@@xyz0zyxso what’s the false premise you claim? The video of Tristan talking about virgins is actually one of the most tame videos. There are other videos far worse and actually self incriminating. The Tates are complete garbage individuals, everything they have accomplished has been through fraud. Imagine never putting a day of real productive work in your life, manipulating women into selling their bodies, lying to them taking a larger cut of their money than you agreed to, and calling yourself a real man. That’s the Tates for you. Pimps, thieves, and fraudsters.
@xyz0zyx
@xyz0zyx 8 месяцев назад
@@whynot1548 Evidence of the contrary you mean. Evidence is not proof. And there’s plenty of reasonable doubt. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt my friend. Basic shit.
@KingTay74
@KingTay74 8 месяцев назад
He disgusting fr and will be the type of man who think graping is good too
@MartinNeduEgwuagu
@MartinNeduEgwuagu 8 месяцев назад
“Do you want your daughter dating a man like that?” Simple answer …hell no! I like how Tom and Patrick answered. Adam obviously does not have kids and is not married. Liz actually had a great response and take on this.
@wawaweewa9159
@wawaweewa9159 8 месяцев назад
Your daughter gona be a hoe who will date a worse guy that tate hahahaha unless you're super Conservative and you control your kid until marriage.
@zizu-lakaka
@zizu-lakaka 8 месяцев назад
Fun fact: If your son does that to girls, you would see no wrong in it. But I'm sure you would beg to differ 🤣
@SIgor420
@SIgor420 8 месяцев назад
I would kick his ass so good he would think ten times before even trying anything like that. Playing with people's feelings is most disgraceful thing a man can do, and a woman. And that's coming from a guy whose ex broke my heart in 1000000 pieces and I even got sick so bad that I know living without big bowel while she having two kids and husband. If I ever see her again in my life I make sure she fucking know what evil she was back then.
@Asegai666
@Asegai666 8 месяцев назад
​@@zizu-lakakaThat's actually just a self report. Some of actually care about the moral character of our children
@michaelnaz6457
@michaelnaz6457 8 месяцев назад
where is the virgin now that you had?
@rezadinho699
@rezadinho699 5 месяцев назад
I don't understand how such a good and intelligent man that is PBD continues to keep Adam on the show, he is generally clueless about the world and brings nothing to any of these shows. I wonder if any of these men would be happy if their daughters/sisters date a Tate brother!
@essietel1196
@essietel1196 5 месяцев назад
Patrick totally overlooks the fact these guys have admitted to crimes that amount to rape, assault and trafficking.
@josippranjic9845
@josippranjic9845 3 месяца назад
? Wtf
@roxiecariere5713
@roxiecariere5713 2 месяца назад
That’s not true
@essietel1196
@essietel1196 2 месяца назад
@roxiecariere5713 yes it is. Tate LITERALLY admitted it in his 1 hour vid explaining how he made his money.
@essietel1196
@essietel1196 2 месяца назад
@josippranjic9845 Tate admitted that stuff in a 1-hour long vid explaining how he made his fortune for his paid subscribers.
@andresortiz560
@andresortiz560 8 месяцев назад
Adam spending all his energy explaining how successful the Tate’s are… Liz: go back to what I said…I don’t care how much money they’ve made. Adam: why are you making it all about money? You alright Adam? Need a snickers bar?
@pmccoy8924
@pmccoy8924 8 месяцев назад
I was waiting for Adam to ask her what color her Bugatti is. He wants to be the Tate’s so bad. He bases his entire persona off them. It’s beta behavior.
@Prime_76
@Prime_76 8 месяцев назад
Liz is a clown 🤡 but she is a woman so what do you expect and her ignorance is 🤦🏽‍♂️
@fioredeutchmark
@fioredeutchmark 8 месяцев назад
Liz absolutely nails this.
@staysolid19
@staysolid19 8 месяцев назад
She didn't lol
@banewillrise6818
@banewillrise6818 8 месяцев назад
Women are to be seen not heard. This is the problem with the loss of masculinity in the west. SIMP men listening to a woman's blabbering about what she thinks a man is, and how they should conduct themselves.
@fioredeutchmark
@fioredeutchmark 8 месяцев назад
@@staysolid19”lol” And that’s you discounted as a child whose opinion couldn’t matter any less if they tried. Grow up and stop worshipping losers like the Tates 👍🏻
@RabJ208
@RabJ208 8 месяцев назад
I hate to admit it but yes she did!
@Chuck1Norris
@Chuck1Norris 8 месяцев назад
@@staysolid19yes she did.
@DoorlessBasher
@DoorlessBasher 5 месяцев назад
She's right.
@Chapito5969
@Chapito5969 5 месяцев назад
She's extensively looked at all the Tates have done, but doesn't get the point. The overall message is to better yourself, in every possible metric and you will be able to provide and protect and be a leader. Adam is right. You want success in your life? Better yourself! Work towards that! The Tates are not trying to lead men to destruction.
@CristineclaireMagalona
@CristineclaireMagalona 13 дней назад
Indeed ❤ female here btw
@yfcanaan1386
@yfcanaan1386 8 месяцев назад
Her arguement is pretty strong and ethically based, and any decent person will not counter it except if they are biased to the Tates.
@077Wilko
@077Wilko 8 месяцев назад
Her argument over him saying taking someone's virginity yes but as to her saying they are not a positive influence on men is utter utter nonsense, both can be right and imo both are right. He is stupid to say things like that and Liz is braindead to say they are not a positive influence. Nobody can be right about all things. Think of the most terrible mistakes you have made in your life that has emotionally hurt someones else......does that mistake mean that if everyone saw you make that mistake that we should think negatively of you for the rest of your life? or just that we should think negatively of you for that decision alone. Stones and glass houses
@osmanbajraktarevic833
@osmanbajraktarevic833 8 месяцев назад
It doesn’t apply to tates latest advise on all this
@XVSting
@XVSting 8 месяцев назад
@@077Wilko yea Liz is “braindead” and you’re not The only think Tate brought to society is the sheer mass number of incels and them pretending to be something theyre not
@SINQUEFIELD83
@SINQUEFIELD83 8 месяцев назад
Since the Tates have undergone massive scrutiny, they have prioritized their message to God, family and values. If you don't believe they have genuinely changed then that is your right, but I do believe they have repented against their past actions, and are taking their role in society more seriously.
@yfcanaan1386
@yfcanaan1386 8 месяцев назад
@@077Wilko these two can be found guilty of human trafficking,you realize that right?
@OMW2FYMUM
@OMW2FYMUM 8 месяцев назад
Liz is arguing with logic and facts
@joninator7858
@joninator7858 8 месяцев назад
Not really. Shea ragued with outdated things that the state brothers said 5-10 years ago and missed their point multiple times. She is a woman and do not see the male perspective. She looks at it from a female POV
@renevanzyl7084
@renevanzyl7084 8 месяцев назад
He has no virtue and logical reasoning
@boshirahmed
@boshirahmed 8 месяцев назад
no she is not, godly women would not be commiting adultery.
@blacksteve22
@blacksteve22 8 месяцев назад
@@boshirahmed”godly” women do it all the time
@yasserbuhussain410
@yasserbuhussain410 8 месяцев назад
Well, although I like the Tates, she has a valid point on Tristan's video, which is destructive for society. However, she said that they promote Pornography, which is false, they don't. And another thing she mentioned is that "Tates tell men they are victims." This cannot be farther from the truth because they constantly emphasize on the importance of responsibility.
@jorgemartines2734
@jorgemartines2734 2 месяца назад
Thank God for Tom his response to PVDs question about the video and his opinion was beyond comprehension very simple response, but mind blowing in the substance😊
@joesnyderburn4278
@joesnyderburn4278 3 месяца назад
I would like to get onto this podcast
@KickRocksClowns
@KickRocksClowns 8 месяцев назад
A woman whose virginity is still intact as an adult has made that choice for a reason. She's saving that for someone special who she believes she can have a lasting, meaningful, relationship with. Convincing her that you're that guy just to take it from her is truly despicable. The option of sex for women is ALWAYS on the table, they can get it anywhere any time. If they intentionally avoid it as a personal choice in service of a higher ideal you're a scumbag for seeking to destroy that virtue for another notch on your belt. No 2 ways about it.
@joeyd7728
@joeyd7728 8 месяцев назад
I agree 💯, well said.
@Grindfeldt
@Grindfeldt 8 месяцев назад
Agreed, but castigating the Tates and their message due to one old clip like this isn’t giving them a fair shake either. Their message to men is 98% positive.
@user-pe8ez8mg3w
@user-pe8ez8mg3w 8 месяцев назад
​@@GrindfeldtIf that was true, how come they are gonna be doing time?! 😂
@alicedoors4826
@alicedoors4826 8 месяцев назад
100% only a little boy wouldn't understand that.
@alicedoors4826
@alicedoors4826 8 месяцев назад
@@Grindfeldt lol this was one of the milder clips. If you do a deep dive and watch all their stuff in context you'll see that this was one of tamer videos that their dumbasses put out.
@lizzyssong
@lizzyssong 7 месяцев назад
“Why don’t u marry your preist?” “Priests don’t get married Adam” 🤣🤣🤣
@clarkw4028
@clarkw4028 7 месяцев назад
Who lied to her? 🤣 😂
@smokindomain
@smokindomain 7 месяцев назад
First off all Greek priest can marry, so get ya facts right, the catholic ones, well, we all know why they don’t marry.. lol.
@xijinping3317
@xijinping3317 7 месяцев назад
​@@smokindomaindon't they fuck lil boys
@makingthecoin3647
@makingthecoin3647 7 месяцев назад
@@smokindomain ATTABOY!
@wholesomememe4762
@wholesomememe4762 7 месяцев назад
How tf is she godly lmao cuz every priest I know is married
@marinnisu5665
@marinnisu5665 2 месяца назад
Thank you so much 🙏
@mehtor87
@mehtor87 5 месяцев назад
What is his point?
@RichReflectionz
@RichReflectionz 8 месяцев назад
Have to agree with Liz there, Adam is living the single bachelor lifestyle. Mainly the US and western dating culture are screwed.
@JulianH-co7qg
@JulianH-co7qg 8 месяцев назад
Good
@NikoPaisa87
@NikoPaisa87 8 месяцев назад
Im a Adam fan and cant believe he doesnt find a huge problem with Tristan Tate having a "How to deceive and F Virgins" tutorial video 😂 come on Adam! Does PBD have a daughter!? Anyone with a daughter will not like those comments.
@buzzbuzzard3809
@buzzbuzzard3809 8 месяцев назад
@@mikem4481 I get that vibe too from Adam. I think he's on one hand not very bright and there is also a lot going on with him emotionally, a lot of internal confusion. The fact that he cant hold a conversation with a woman that has a different opinion from him without becoming triggered and emotional speaks volumes. Also whenever someone disagrees with him he says "oh so you believe ..." it shows how narrow minded he is. He thinks there´s only ever two ways to look at something and they´re always extremes at the opposite side of the spectrum. I think it would do him well to work construction and deal with some real, down to earth guys and have a physical outlet.
@ADT1001
@ADT1001 8 месяцев назад
​@NikoPaisa87 lost me at adam fan, he never made any logic in his debates 😂
@JBS7551
@JBS7551 8 месяцев назад
Adam is unbearable
@VergilEdits
@VergilEdits 8 месяцев назад
Adam asks for her oponion Liz : She says her opinion Adam : that's your opinion
@nomdeguerre8464
@nomdeguerre8464 8 месяцев назад
He's not bright enough to be a cohost. Too bad PBD doesn't recognize the Dunning-Kruger diagnosis and cut the dead weight.
@cindylouhart6945
@cindylouhart6945 8 месяцев назад
He has a room temperature IQ
@dilancicek-we6nd
@dilancicek-we6nd 8 месяцев назад
Whats her full name
@salosegura711
@salosegura711 4 месяца назад
who is Adams father that he is still on this podcast and PBD brought him to meet interview tate.
@tegramuzembe1605
@tegramuzembe1605 4 месяца назад
And they say women cant be logical ❤ she bought her point across with ease❤🎉
@jaimegranado7278
@jaimegranado7278 8 месяцев назад
A man’s value should be determined based on his principles, beliefs, and actions rather than financial wealth. There are countless rich men who are absolute low life scumbags.
@MostAlpha
@MostAlpha 8 месяцев назад
Financial wealth is a metric/barometer and function of your principles beliefs and actions.
@shogunofharlem8240
@shogunofharlem8240 8 месяцев назад
You dont get to tell anyone what their value is determined by. Only reality can do that, and that is why men flock to what the Tates have to say. Keep raging against reality, my simpy friend.
@atlarge2621
@atlarge2621 8 месяцев назад
This is true. And there are quite a lot studies which tie increases in wealth to lowering of empathy in individuals.
@MostAlpha
@MostAlpha 8 месяцев назад
@@shogunofharlem8240 Society has imputed values determination locked. Intrinsic values have been lost to constructs. Do not be obtuse. Educate yourself dufus.
@cldrawings1224
@cldrawings1224 8 месяцев назад
​​@@shogunofharlem8240just because men flock to the Tate's that doesn't make them a good for society!
@drjoshaxe
@drjoshaxe 8 месяцев назад
Liz is 100% right on this. They need to understand that the Tate brothers teach others how to become powerful, but not how to use it for the good of the world. It needs to be used for the good. If it's used for the bad it's destructive.
@horineesgaming7354
@horineesgaming7354 8 месяцев назад
Afcourse a person that believe in 70 genders say that
@vaaslovesnole4502
@vaaslovesnole4502 8 месяцев назад
The internet will make you think that their followers are wealthy and powerful. Idk a single person irl who’s in a position high up in society who listens to Andrew Tate. They’re just big on social media platforms and red pill groups online.
@Diametricallyopposed00
@Diametricallyopposed00 8 месяцев назад
Yes, I don’t know if Andrew Tate actually realizes he’s promoting moral degeneracy, which , in the end is destructive to society. Plus, I think he’s incredibly insecure. Anybody who talks so loudly about themselves; about how great they are, possessions they own, etc is overcompensating for a low opinion of themselves. He LOVES to tell the world how great he is and how many young men he’s ‘saving’. He’s got the God complex for sure.
@nickdraper8409
@nickdraper8409 8 месяцев назад
Liz is only right from a female perspective. Men don't watch the Tates and feed off them being told they are attacked. Men watch the Tates and feed off the masculine emotions they project. It's like a football coach getting the team prepared for a game. Coaches don't use fear they project fierceness and confidence and toughness in their players and the Tates project those emotions in their viewers which creates stronger better men. Also if you watch their more recent stuff Andrew is very adamant on not viewing pornography and he also is against alcohol. They are promoting healthy ways for men to be better stronger than ever. We need more men like Andrew and Tristan Tate in this world to stand up against the radical leftists we have in the world.
@redshift0076
@redshift0076 8 месяцев назад
This is the best explanation of why the Tates are not necessarily good for society. I agree with most of what the Tates say about masculinity in modern society but you pinned it perfectly. They are teaching weak men to become powerful without understanding the responsibility that comes with that power. The youth tends to hyper-focus on the materialistic and self-serving side of their message. Most want to become successful for their own betterment. Not for the betterment of others. 👏👏👏👏👏👏
@arunavbaruah123
@arunavbaruah123 3 месяца назад
6:27- The answer to that is "It's the reality we live in now. PLUS that was a question that was asked to Tristan Tate, and he simply gave his expertise and knowledge to the men. What? Free speech right? It's upto to them to follow"
@Testimonials843
@Testimonials843 4 месяца назад
So why Adam is on the show?
@stablegenius365
@stablegenius365 8 месяцев назад
PBD is clearly friends with the Tates, but Liz is 100% correct and PBD knows it. Adam has the maturity of a teenager.
@foxyou3716
@foxyou3716 8 месяцев назад
Adam represents that “mid-forties male, that focused on building a career and wealth and hooking up with chicks, rather than focusing on a wife and children” and the Tate’s rep that lifestyle. Therefore, they represent his lifestyle. An attack or disagreement on them, he sees as an attack on himself.
@bobjohnson1633
@bobjohnson1633 8 месяцев назад
He's a democrat and a sex predator that just advocating for abusing and raping women
@alyssawork8337
@alyssawork8337 8 месяцев назад
‘Love of materialism, love of self’ …she was reading him like a book.
@alyssawork8337
@alyssawork8337 8 месяцев назад
@stablegenius365 PBD has cognitive dissonance when it comes to the Tates. He is willing to overlook their predatory behaviour towards women as collateral damage. Over the years, I have seen this as common place in the world of men, in an effort to not make enemies or cause ripples, men will look the other way or befriend them instead of acting with integrity and shunning them. Keeping them in good standing is rewarding their behaviour and will only further the problem
@24wallachian
@24wallachian 8 месяцев назад
@@foxyou3716 That's a VERY good summary! Completely agree.
@Aquatic_Allure
@Aquatic_Allure 7 месяцев назад
Patrick is the only one that can actually speak facts!
@lifetimestoriesphotography
@lifetimestoriesphotography 7 месяцев назад
Totally agree
@user-ir9ew9hb6r
@user-ir9ew9hb6r 6 месяцев назад
He is charging $15,000 to sit in a class to tell simps how to be men it's a scam and you are one of his cult followers you are dumb
@recon2g65
@recon2g65 5 месяцев назад
Tom
@Poshafurever
@Poshafurever 2 месяца назад
Thank god at least someone is countering it with logic. Good work Liz!
@armankumuryan9265
@armankumuryan9265 4 месяца назад
- Adam : can I make a point - Patrick : you have 20 seconds 😆😆😆😆😆
@sirchadiusmaximusiii
@sirchadiusmaximusiii 8 месяцев назад
Adam is holding back PBD. Man knows how to annoy legit everyone.
@nomdeguerre8464
@nomdeguerre8464 8 месяцев назад
Agreed. There's something to be said about having another opinion on the show for the sake of being open minded, but he's unbearable and a tool.
@rumchata6569
@rumchata6569 8 месяцев назад
They need a Jew
@nomdeguerre8464
@nomdeguerre8464 8 месяцев назад
@@rumchata6569 to get away with talking about certain subjects? They don't NOTICE enough to keep him around if you ask me...
@Diametricallyopposed00
@Diametricallyopposed00 8 месяцев назад
PBD keeps him around to be ‘devils advocate’ for the sake of conversation. He’s the dissenting voice. You can’t have everyone agreeing or it’s boring. PBD knows what he’s doing. 😉 I agree, though, he’s an idiot, lol. I rarely agree with anything he says. You have to have someone for Tom and Vinny to argue with. There is a lot of engagement in the comments about Adam. The more chatter there is in the comments, the more attention the video gets. All for the algorithm. It’s a business.
@rumchata6569
@rumchata6569 8 месяцев назад
@@Diametricallyopposed00 naw he keeps him cuz he’s the Jew of the group. Every group needs a Jew for connects
@samsmith1122
@samsmith1122 8 месяцев назад
As soon as Adam starts to talk I push the forward button. Omg I rather have a root canal then to listen to Adam go on and on. He totally takes control of the show.
@imrankhan-ob3es
@imrankhan-ob3es 8 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂 I had one yesterday
@homewardboundphotos
@homewardboundphotos 8 месяцев назад
I have no idea who this guy is, sometimes PBD has an interesting take but i don't watch his podcast probably because of stuff like this. This is is a completely stupid ass clown listening to him talk makes me want to delete myself.
@ebuneewane9221
@ebuneewane9221 8 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂
@SupermanSchwebel
@SupermanSchwebel 8 месяцев назад
Agreed.
@rokasdobrovolskis
@rokasdobrovolskis 8 месяцев назад
Physically *hurts* to listen. As if headache is about to start
@alecpascoe6193
@alecpascoe6193 5 месяцев назад
6:48 she cant help but smile at the compliment
@dawacom9342
@dawacom9342 3 месяца назад
He doesn't have a point . He wants to have a point that supports his belief in the tate brothers thats why he doesn't see anything that proves him wrong . "You see what you aim at " professor Jordan B Peterson .
@lyndeen
@lyndeen 8 месяцев назад
She completely owned him. I agree with her. You can be a strong man and not be morally corrupt like the tate brothers.
@NotMyAccount
@NotMyAccount 8 месяцев назад
Learn from everybody. From what I can understand you are against the Tate brothers and thats fine. Look at parts of what they are encouraging like: "be in good physical shape", remove their names from the equation and there you have it, good advice. My point is, we should not totally agree or totally dissagree with anyone. We can all learn from the achievements, mistakes, good things, bad things of everybody.
@Mkunitedfan
@Mkunitedfan 8 месяцев назад
​@@NotMyAccountthat's true I got most things I take from Tate but for moral virtue it's Jordan
@xyz0zyx
@xyz0zyx 8 месяцев назад
She's wrong though. Her underlying premise is misleading. She put words into Tristan's mouth and misrepresented Tate's views and their movement. This allows her to make logically sound arguments, if you accept her premise. However, logic is still has its constraints by the limited information available, devoid of any nuance and proper implications. Adam's mistake was challenging her arguments without challenging her premise, and he fell right into her framing, which is why his arguments weren't as strong. This is because he isn't super familiar with the context of that clip.
@xyz0zyx
@xyz0zyx 8 месяцев назад
@DESTINYMASTER-zh4zf He didn't say nothing about deceiving women. She put words in his mouth.
@bonnieterasea7850
@bonnieterasea7850 8 месяцев назад
@DESTINYMASTER-zh4zf how are you a real man?
@fifiadan
@fifiadan 8 месяцев назад
Adam tried to invalidate her cos she was a women but the funny thing is she had a way better take on men and masculinity then he could ever come up with
@moonmoh1802
@moonmoh1802 4 месяца назад
Literally everything she said the Tates advocate for, is literally the EXACT opposite of what they actually advocate for, anyone who listened to the PBD podcasts with them will immediately see this.
@user-hk9hr3mm9z
@user-hk9hr3mm9z 2 месяца назад
When did women start deciding how a man should behave
@joshdelagarza231
@joshdelagarza231 8 месяцев назад
The reason I don’t personally follow Tate is 1: I’m not 15 years old and 2: he’s a con-artist. First he was the hedonistic hugh Hefner type, then he was a hard working man with Christian values, now he’s supposedly a married, Muslim family man. He changes his persona based on what gets him support at the moment.
@user-od1bs4yi6m
@user-od1bs4yi6m 8 месяцев назад
Correct you figured it out hes actually a slave
@superchill45
@superchill45 8 месяцев назад
I think that’s how life is.
@John-du2mq
@John-du2mq 8 месяцев назад
People aren't allowed to grow up and mature, got it.
@tamaolenuutoln2537
@tamaolenuutoln2537 8 месяцев назад
No you’re a simp that’s why
@Killa_Suerte
@Killa_Suerte 8 месяцев назад
You only put one actual reason and even that’s debatable. This has gotta be a joke.
@ripdinecola4755
@ripdinecola4755 8 месяцев назад
Liz Wheeler is dead on! As usual I have no idea what point that Adam guy is trying to make....
@mensahoteh
@mensahoteh 2 месяца назад
She is, so far, the most eloquent detractor and her arguments were sound. Rather than use ad hominem attacks or other argumentative fallacies, she spoke directly to the normative aspect of the advice offered in the video by the Tates, and she was spot on. And it is about time someone eloquent provided a push back. The video by Tris was appalling. I do agree that they have other advice for men which is good, notwithstanding, the virgin advice was awful. The PDP team have a bias, as they are friends with the Tates, and so issue of incentive caused bias is at play. Fundamentally, the lady was addressing the ‘ought' argument (prescriptive statement), whilst the others were focused on the 'is' argument (descriptive statement). She was heads above the rest.
@tannerbeam1429
@tannerbeam1429 5 месяцев назад
Adam didn’t give a good answer or reason, he had so many points to attack from.
@neonkaiju
@neonkaiju 8 месяцев назад
Went into this one thinking I was going to be on Adam's side and nope; she nailed it.
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 8 месяцев назад
Liz failed to explain why she thinks Tate’s message is self-destructive. Being boyfriend of virgins is bad? Wahhh. The uck
@boblashed1012
@boblashed1012 8 месяцев назад
@@LeadLeftLeonyeah Liz was the emotional one if anything. A “godly” man? Really? Lol Adam nailed it with her not marrying a pastor.
@MD_Production
@MD_Production 8 месяцев назад
@@boblashed1012 if you think that only pastors are godly men, then thats where you are wrong as there are men who are godly even if they are not the leaders of the church.
@boblashed1012
@boblashed1012 8 месяцев назад
@@MD_Production you missed the point. Liz stated that a godly man was MOST important to HER. Meaning what she’s saying is rooted purely in emotion and not factual.
@alinlupu6453
@alinlupu6453 8 месяцев назад
@@LeadLeftLeon Tate was making those videos from a predator's perspective, the prey being 2, 3 virgins per year. Do you think he cared about them after? This is the destructive part, having a predator mindset and using those virgins only for own pleasures.
@MorenaKarala
@MorenaKarala 8 месяцев назад
PBD threw Adam into the fire with this one 😂😂😂 but I like how he saves him and articulates how most men view the Tate brothers.
@abdoumokrane275
@abdoumokrane275 8 месяцев назад
No one can touch adam he is Jewish 😉
@MorenaKarala
@MorenaKarala 8 месяцев назад
@@abdoumokrane275 Liz touched him so inappropriately he might need to see a therapist
@aalvarez2914
@aalvarez2914 8 месяцев назад
Only men who aren’t men, and have no concept of manhood, look up to the Tate brothers. Only an absolute lack of masculinity, a desperation for it, would cause anyone to look up to a wannabe pimp crime lord who brags about manipulating women into sex work, slavery practically, and boasts about how he dupes his followers too, as some “role model” just because he throws a few common sense words in with his BS.
@BustBackTv
@BustBackTv 8 месяцев назад
😂 Adam comes off as an Andrew Tate groupie
@pitpride1220
@pitpride1220 7 месяцев назад
​@@BustBackTvHe is and it's weak. Whole culture of simping for other men.
@Chann1549
@Chann1549 Месяц назад
I wonder how Adam would feel about a successful female influencer teaching women how to trick rich men into thinking they care so they’ll buy them whatever they want.
@eddiealexchriskevin
@eddiealexchriskevin 6 месяцев назад
I admire Liz ' patience with Adam.
@neiruneg9502
@neiruneg9502 8 месяцев назад
I'm with Liz on this one....
@Youngquavo2
@Youngquavo2 3 месяца назад
PBD had the correct answer out of all of them.
@Electrocycle300
@Electrocycle300 5 месяцев назад
Her first comment is gold. Tate has done some good; but not all of his solutions work in a positive manner.
@BenDol90
@BenDol90 8 месяцев назад
Liz is 100% right here.
@monikakowalska3919
@monikakowalska3919 8 месяцев назад
How ridiculous Jedediah Bila sounds in comparison with Liz
@majkaadam9749
@majkaadam9749 8 месяцев назад
No
@IntoMotivate
@IntoMotivate 8 месяцев назад
Nope
@MisterK-YT
@MisterK-YT 8 месяцев назад
Agreed
@tripx3033
@tripx3033 8 месяцев назад
How so? You know that Video explained nun and we’re only 20Yrs old 🤣🤣🤣 U stupid
@RicardoFinnigan
@RicardoFinnigan 8 месяцев назад
He bragged about smashing 17 year olds, lied to girls to get them into camming and taking money from men via scamming them-they’re not good role models to be learning from
@mellisa752
@mellisa752 8 месяцев назад
16 is the LEGAL age of consent in the Uk.
@NikoPaisa87
@NikoPaisa87 8 месяцев назад
​@@mellisa752still aint right 😂
@johnnnnhammer9472
@johnnnnhammer9472 8 месяцев назад
GAHAHHAHAHAHHA HE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT 17 YEARS OLD LOOOOL WHAT A HATERRRR , SEND ME THE CLIP AND PROVE ME WRONG I DARE YOU
@KingTata
@KingTata 8 месяцев назад
​@@NikoPaisa87why?
@KingTata
@KingTata 8 месяцев назад
​@@johnnnnhammer9472 even if he did its legal its legal. If we believe that is too young then raise up the age.
@philspradley
@philspradley 4 месяца назад
Oh please, Adam! That’s like saying, “you’re not a woman so you can’t have an opinion about abortion” “you ain’t black, so you can’t have an opinion about what’s happening to back people”
@1013VS
@1013VS 5 месяцев назад
The older I get, the more I realize that the tates aren't really what they meant to say or trying to be. Yes, I agree. Men should be strong and men should be men but the same time. You should also respect women and respect everything around you.
@user-og6hl6lv7p
@user-og6hl6lv7p 8 месяцев назад
I think Tate teaching young men to value themselves is incredibly important in this day and age, however he exploited male neediness in order to get rich. On some level he was (is?) contributing to the problem while simultaneously providing a solution. There are much better role models out there for young men to follow.
@lightbeings6243
@lightbeings6243 8 месяцев назад
No he is a changed person..n iA with time you ll see with knowledge of religion..he ll.improve..
@grantmcphee5149
@grantmcphee5149 8 месяцев назад
​@@lightbeings6243he has no regrets. He simply switching his marketing to target a new audience/market.
@Dorkster81
@Dorkster81 8 месяцев назад
He’s never done that
@DreamsOfLegend
@DreamsOfLegend 8 месяцев назад
You critique without offering solutions. Who that embodies what Andrew has to do suggest?
@peasant7214
@peasant7214 8 месяцев назад
Nobody is perfect I think he is better than than the others substitutes.
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