@@heyokaikaggen6288 " Mock The Weak " by stealing £159.50 from them !! Why left wing Comics feel no shame in stealing £160 quid off the poor ! EAT/HEAT Or Pay £159.50 to Lazey eye Howard Boyle O'Briein
"Why did I sign up?" Probably something to do with being in the position to get jobs where you get paid £85k for 4 hours work in addition to an £80+k salary and equivalent in expenses.
@@TheSealOfTheRose No but it's money for old rope, isn't it. Doubles his salary for a few hours a week. Doesn't he already have a job to keep him busy? How many sinecures are these guys allowed to take on?
@@TheSealOfTheRose It just shows that they are not in politics to improve peoples lives and that of the public in general. It’s to use the position to cream as much profit as they can for themselves which often leads to dodgy dealings.
Mercer was sacked by Liz Truss in 2022 but then reappointed to Veterans Affairs by Rishi Sunak a month later. Mercer received £8,000 of tax payers money for the sacking (money which they are entitled to 3 weeks after sacking). Back in the job a week later. Seems pretty dodgy to me.
He could be the biggest war hero that ever lived and earned the respect of the Nation, that doesn't mean that he's not a conman or crook in his civilian life.
Well no because honor, honesty and accountability are fundamentals of being in the military. He was an officer, why would he tarnish his career like that
@@itsdan722 Considering the military is full of rapists and murderers, I don`t think honour, honesty and accountability feature very much in the military.
Crucial Academy sued the BBC, the case is sub-justice until the case against LCF the original Ponzi scheme guys is complete. Crucial Academy also folded in 2022.
I cannot find any record of Johnny Mercer suing the BBC successfully of otherwise. The questions were raised because he remained in his luctrative post whilst still a Junior Minister - he was sacked from the cabinet in early 2021
@@mummyd1990 So what? What he's paid has FA to do with libel laws. the BBC isn't bankrupt nor has anyone been arrested for corruption at the BBC over Hislop's salary. Which one of them has resigned their position? Oh yes, Mr Mercer. Do keep up.
I was there in the audience that night. The back and forth actually went on a lot longer than what was aired. Mercer, the whole way through, came across like the child who had had their hand caught in the cookie jar.
That isn’t a heated argument- it’s a grown up discussion over a contentious issue in which they all acted in a decent manner - with the comics doing exactly what should come naturally 😁love from wessexshire
@Specs & No Pecs Just another right wing troll you can’t win an argument with evidence and logic so they use capitals to make their argument look more convincing.
@Specs & No Pecs its common business practice not to communicate in writing using caps lock because it is associated with shouting. I find it astounding that you haven't recognised that this is generally accepted by the wider community. I suppose that only Boomers are going to boom. You are right in one respect the argument remains the same regardless of the Caps. It is still illogical and irrational. The use of caps lock just heightens the tone in which it is delivered indicating severe tendencies towards confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance.
@@liftwell it's not about winning an arguement. It's about the truth and I'm sorry to say, the BBC is not interested in the truth, but in it's particular spin of it. The days when the BBC could be relied upon for impartiality, bipartisan reporting, are long gone.
I have a lot of time for Johnny Mercer. I have recently retired from teaching English to delinquent lads in Liverpool. Some time ago I emailed him simply to congratulate him on his well written book (his description of losing his comrade Bing is heart-breaking). He responded by offering to travel up north to meet my lads and talk to them. We certainly need more of his ilk in Westminster.
Ocean Drive LTD have you served in the military? Have you achieved a solo ascent of the Eiger? I don’t know Johnny Mercer but between us we have achieved both those things. I’m naive? Rather that than a no mark keyboard warrior
He's from my old unit 29 Cdo. He's a lying piece of crap. He's voted consistently against anything which would have helped his "beloved" veterans. The man's a charlatan who drones on endlessly about how awesome he was when he was in.
@@TheSealOfTheRose being a poltician should be a fulltime busy job, where are they finding the time and means to be able to dedicate themselves to second jobs?
@@TheSealOfTheRose aye, but even if they were great lawyers, they should be dedicating themselves to public service and not working for private sector companies. Again where do they find the time?
@gavinstuart6704 I agree. However over 2 million or 3 million ppl in the UK have 3 jobs. Even if someone is full time monday to Friday there might be stringent laws on companies not wanting the individual to have another job. So if u do customer service Mon to Friday and have a second job such as bar work they might think you don't have the energy, but of course these ppl will be directors non executives, consultants. So time is minimal and pay is high and probably going through a ltd company.
All you guys saying, "This isn't a heated argument", seem a little confused. This is one man basically accusing another man on TV of being a knowing accessory to shady practices. It might not be shouting, but their voices are definitely raised, and I would certainly call it heated. Perhaps not an argument, per se, but certainly a confrontation - it's as heated as the show could allow it to be, and the more heated content is likely edited out, as well. So, I don't know what y'all are on about, honestly.
@@arthurmee The extent at which your parents act like children whilst being adults and claim it’s just an Italian thing rather than a personality issue is irrelevant to the extent at which other peoples conversations can be considered heated or argumentative given the context.
2 года назад
@@jaymercer4692 Damn Mercer you nailed it. It has become increasingly obvious that a lot more people than you'd think just respond to tone of voice and volume levels rather than content.
This is not the first time, in this program, where people have had the opportunity to expose some pretty interesting stuff. I often think it is one of the best programme, on the BBC ,to hear honest and informed commentary about current affairs. Certainly few of its news programs documentaries or political interview shows offer the opportunity for an open dialogue from all parties.
@@krayon_eater Sure, and that somehow makes all of the awful conflict of interest exploitation that he did just disappear? He's somehow a nice person now? Ok then. I guess all of the grifters and convicted criminals Donald Trump exonerated are totally fine now too.
@@krayon_eater Mercer was not exonerated. He had to resign his role in Crucial Academy, the company never sued because the investigation was correct. Also, the owner of Crucial Academy is under investigation by the serious Fraud office, and this story is part of that fraud.
@@VinylBC they can broadcast what they like if it suits their ideology, regardless of viewing figures. They are unaccountable because we pay their wages.
@@frazerduncan356 a lot of people watch it. That's the only thing relevant to the fee paid to people on the show, and CERTAINLY has nothing to do with dodgy companies that rip people off. People can choose not to watch this show, those people couldn't choose not to lose all their money.
Hislop is a complete tosser. BBC fodder through and through. Does he really get 20,000 of license payers' money for being so completely crap? Why doesn't he take his own advice and do it for free?
@Wilbur Wafer People like me? You don't even remotely know what I am like you knee-jerk twerp. I think being a stuck-up, smug, supercilious piece of shite, and I'll go further: a stuck-up, smug, supercilious, sanctimonious, self-satisfied, snide, sarcastic, shitty and patronising flabby little preacher is actually what defines any substance that the little jerk has. He is meant to be there to be funny but he only gets a laugh when he is being snide, sarcastic and cruel. He doesn't make jokes that are intrinsically funny in their own right, as his opposite number Merton occasionally can; he perpetually lampoons even those people in the public eye who are of real substance - on either side of the political divide. His jokes are not even off the cuff, they're rehearsed because if this little snob was asked to do stand-up where the real comedy game is played, he'd die on his feet. The panel, as with all BBC panel-based comedy, get to see the questions beforehand and it's quite sad to think that even with the chance to see the questions and given time to work on his act, all he can do is sneer. Hislop thinks that he's being satirical but he's simply playing to the gallery, an audience of BBC-approved middle-Englanders or selected metropolitan hyper-liberal elite, appreciative only of his sort of virtue-signalling quasi-comedy whose number, I would expect, includes the likes of you, you intellectually Wafer-thin little squirt, hiding behind what I assume is an assumed name.
@@aciddrive1019 I know, how dare Hislop expose a man of exploiting injured soldiers by making a vast amount of money from some murky business dealings!
They left out the best bit. Johnny was tapping his pen on the desk and Paul gestured at him to stop and Johnny says" oh sorry. Does that ruin the recording?" And Paul says " well..."
@@johnsmith-wx5fb because it was voted "pen tapper of the year" by the Wigan and district pen tappers society and frankly John, if they say it's the best bit, then I'm with them.
Ian Hislop income as a TV personality is paid at the value he negotiates with the production company. As an elected MP, Mercer requires more scrutiny when it comes to his income.
Don't forget they're on a recorded TV programme, so if there was any bad language or shouting they would have re-shot it. In private it might have been a different matter!
Yes, but they still didn't get anywhere. One accused the other and the other denied everything. Complete waste of hot air. That Johnny Mercer comes across as a complete slime ball, so my money's on Ian Hislop.
@@GK1976A Slime ball Mercer Versus a Putrid Hectoring obnoxious Rich parasite Hislop who Steals £159.50 from the Poorest that Goes to make up his £40.000 per half hour Smugathon indulged shite Have I Got £159.50 From You !
John Burton 1. I don’t have to do a thing just because an illiterate hick asks. 2. I haven’t been asked a question. Maybe get someone who has basic literacy to help you.
@@peteconrad2077 yes or no would be easier than that snobby dodge. Anyone with basic literacy (who therefore understands context) can parse the question "Labour?"
There are a still a few issues at point here. Hislop raised that the story was not just being covered by the BBC. The fact that Mercer only chose to sue the BBC for libel reeks of a personal vendetta. While he raises Hislop's salary. The point isn't an MP and therefore can't use his position to influence legislation to "get himself out of trouble" or to make legislation to their own personal economic advantage seems to be overlooked. Mercer opened himself up to this by taking a second job. Mercer also falsely makes himself philanthropic by claiming he is helping veterans. The fact that he collected more money for 2 hours work than most people earn all year, seems to dispute that.
@@liftwell If the story originated from the BBC, then they would be the target of the libel. Other outlets reporting on it are just reporting on what the BBC claims
Because he often is. I may not remember correctly but i think i read an interview where he said he got bored of HIGNFY many years ago and now he is just on auto-pilot. Remember he used to be mainly an improv comedian, while the show is scripted and rehearsed ,sometimes for hours ,many parts must be repeated , it's a bit boring after many years. Another factor may be (imho ) his mental health: it's no secret he suffered from depression many years ago,maybe he isn't always in the mood for working. While in an office job you can somewhat hide that, on a tv show it's quite obvious. Personally i used to be very fond of him, now i can't stand him. He is always very well informed , but he mainly either : 1) makes a joke about Ian being posh,often the same one too 2) criticises the material the host is reading. He works best when he joins Ian in roasting politicians/personalities or when he talks about mute movies era comedians,a subject in which he really has a deep knowledge. The rest of the time he is "meh"
@@waheedsaeed5978 Because he gets 20k for an hours work in which he doesn't even have to do much of anything. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out why he hasn't quit.
Only the British can take what would be an uncomfortable situation to be a part of and somehow add humour to it and make it feel less uncomfortable for everyone involved.
I’m British, I used to do that for people as an out… Now I don’t care if people are uncomfortable at what I say, they just stand there waiting for me to make it easier on them… Nope, not this time 💋
Tim Donovan you obviously don't read private write or you'd know how much he's done for vets. For instance exposing a scam that was ripping off disabled vets from all the benefits they were entitled to.
@@StoutProper Hislop is bent himself taking 20k of licence fee payers money for a single show, the irony as he tried to preach to others about their pay being too much 😂😂🤣
@@markymark7803 so you say. Got any evidence of that pau cheque? You don't mind Simon Cowell getting 100k a show though, you don't mind mps expenses, it's just hislop apparently
He’s a private citizen though in a private contract, so he can get paid whatever he agrees because we live in a world where that’s how it work. Mercer is a public servant, an MP who earns at least £80,000 in taxpayers money (before expenses). We pay him for his time and here he also has a gig on the side. MPs shouldn’t have second jobs when they’re taking public money, they should focus on what we pay them to do. You wouldn’t pay a builder for his time and let him nip off for half a day to work on someone else’s house.
@@HydroSnips *"He’s a private citizen though in a private contract, so he can get paid whatever he agrees because we live in a world where that’s how it work."* *"Mercer is a public servant, an MP who earns at least £80,000 in taxpayers money (before expenses)."* Hate to point this out to you, but Hislop's salary is effectively paid by the taxpayer also, as is everyone else at the BBC. Your builder analogy was ironic as that *IS* a private contract.
MrKunt Yes, he’s paid to be on a comedy show. He isn’t on the BBC board where he can forward and advance legislation that could effectively pay him more. Mercer’s gig on the side involves using his time in Parliament for a bit of lobbying that could potentially lead to increased veteran funding and a nice bonus for him, when he should be doing his actual job which is to represent people. I don’t get why people would argue for a free pass to a politician breaking the rules. It takes a chisel to democratic representation if people start caping for MPs using their office for third-party, personally-profitable ventures.
@@HydroSnips But has he broken the rules? Admittedly, I haven't followed this story, but Hislop's gone after him and he comes out badly in this exchange. He's suing for libel for a good reason, and I don't see the issue with MPs earning more money on the side as long as it's above board. If their constituents are happy enough to re-elect them then where's the problem?
@@deepzepp4176 "You hold political figures to account but you also go to parties with them, so it doesn't matter!" How did 3 geniuses think this was worth an upvote lol
@@deepzepp4176 Attending a party that someone else attended is not a conflict of interest. Ever heard of creating a logical argument? You'll be blown away by the concept.
You see this is what's called intelligent articulate debate...I think we can all appreciate that.although the bloke in the t shirts body language is a give away...
I don’t pretend to know anything about this case and I like Ian Hislop, but I respect the way Mercer stood up for himself there and that comment about 20 Grand was a good counter punch! 🥊
Both mercer and hislop (and all the panel) took a wage as this would be reasonably expected with light ents are a part of their jobs (except mercer as an MP. Was this declared as an earning additionally to his MPs wages of about 85k?). Not entirely sure of the point that he was making.
@@TrequartistaFM He didn't need to even acknowledge the question. I remember in the past at a dinner in America, the usual question there is "what do you make" meaning how much money you are earning. This is not normally a polite question in UK, but in US it is quite common. The guy pressed the enquiry until I told him. I was a specialist consultant for a big US corporation, and then he was even more upset when he heard the answer. Sometimes it is best not to throw numbers about.
J Mercer answered every one of Hislops questions and answered them well. I'd support a man who's served like he has over a celeb journalist any day of the week.
Answering them well... 2:21 Where he claims he didn't say it was a smear from the other side to be confronted by is own comments a few seconds later. The confidence of his lie then does make you wonder what else he was making up doesn't it.
That's his job, he's a TV panelist, has been pretty much since the show started. Mercer on the other hand, is an MP with his snout in a trough. Try directing your faux rage to the people who really deserve it.
The TV tax should have been ditched years ago. Totally outdated in 2019 and i'm a non-payer. I've no issue with Hislop earning £20k per episode but I won't be contributing to it.
@@sharpley753 The licence fee is not the issue here. I totally agree that it is an out dated, barbaric use of public resource and quite a terrorising tool towards certain members of our community but to attack the employees is not the answer. Attacking the likes of Johnny Mercer, a fully salaried MP with multiple side positions and salaries, should be more in the public interest.
nothing faux about some bloke on the Public funded TV getting £10K a hour. Especially a publically funded television network that is currently rifling the pockets of the over 75s in order to keep its Luvvies in Lobster and champagne
Even though it wasn't an outrageously funny joke, the reaction to Paul's Judge Rinder crack was probably the loudest laugh I've ever heard from a studio audience.
about a fiver an hour would be overpaying these turds and would be correct for sitting on arses doing sweet nothing apart from bullshit it must be like being up the pub and getting paid 20 k a week to take the piss out of the tax payer who cannot do anything about it the bastards are laughing all the way to the bank and we the licence fee payers are keeping them in a life of splendour
I suppose they think that the BBC is paying them directly... Truth is BBC would commission a politics/current affair gameshow... a company would secure the rights charge a set fee and ongoing production fee but the main attraction is the BBC gives you access to a huuuge and global audience... the company owns the IP and can license it in other markets, allow reruns, merch ect not to mention the portfolio benefit it has... If the BBC is offering 20mill for a 3 season kids fantasy show it makes PERFECT sense to spend 50mill and over deliver by producing a hit show... That initial 30mill loss is insignificant to what your IP would then be worth, merch, spinoffs, movie, licensing and what the beeb would pay for a few extra seasons.. Night manager, Sherlock, Luther, Merlin, Capture, Vigil, Bodyguard, Peaky blinders, Line of duty ect ect Not to mention that BBC STUDIOS is a for profit separate arm of the BBC and generates hundreds of millions in PROFIT each year for the BBC
@@Alex-wh8xrthe difference is Ian Hislop isn't claiming to do HIGNFY through altruism. Mercer is, and is taking a huge fee for an afternoon's work when he could easily turn it down so that money can be re-invested into the education programmes.
Exactly. I had a "real" heated argument over this point with a friend who claimed someone was a bad person because he had been charged with an offense. The person in question was found not guilty. Being arrested is even less of a "guilty verdict".
@@nickharrison1604because he took up a ministerial post and was required to… Perhaps you should look to the fact he was never criminally charged to determine whether or not he’s guilty rather than the fact he simply stepped down from a job as he was required. Makes you look less stupid
I don't know what any of this is, means or about. I did find it strange when Hislop said: "why don't you do it for free". Why? It's a job and a business. Why would you even suggest he does it for free?
Mercer could have turned it around on Hislop and asked him the same question. Or at least asked if he donates some of the 20 thousand pounds to charity. It's not as if it's hard work doing a TV show - it seems a ludicrous amount of money for such a short amount of work.
To all those complaining about lefty BBC, this show has always been like this. It hasn’t got more left wing, you’ve just become increasingly right wing and not even realised it. The BBC has had many people running it for decades, it’s a not single entity with a figurehead to run the show like Sky is. It’s also politically accountable unlike all the other channels. You may not like them. I don’t always like them, but it’s a lot better than an American alternative.
i say they are right wing because they allow boris to bullshit with impunity they say its left wing because they dont want to drown refugees and call black people n******
John Smith If he was he wouldn’t have bashed Corbyn so much. Do you just assume that everyone who bashed your heroes are liberal rentboys and champagne socialists? Also, does Mercer have honour simply because he’s an ex soldier?
£20,000 for 2 hours is actually very cheap by broadcasting standards. Alan Shearer earns £85,000 for contributing 3 minutes of opinion to Match of The Day every Saturday night.
@David J I didn't say that I think it's cheap, read it again, it really isn't that difficult to understand. I simply stated a fact, namely that by broadcasting standards, £20,000 is cheap.
I would expect Shearer spends a good few hours in the studio with each show. They do a lot of prep beforehand since it’s a live programme and he’s doing punditry for the BBC an awful lot.
@@giteausuperstar of course they do prep; they watch the games live in studio making notes and selecting extracts for illustration for broadcast later. But MoT isn't live and never has been. It's recorded at 8.30pm, allowing the Beeb time to make quick edits and adjustments. Same goes for Hislopp on HIGNFY. What we watch is a highly edited version, and the full episode, including the full rehearsal, takes 4 hrs.
Not Anne (at least three pensions -state, UK Parliament and ex MEP ) Widdecombe, plus her writing for the Daily Express, plus her being the go-to gammon for any why-oh-why documentary. Makes Ian Hislop seem underpaid!!!
@@paulphillips9228 Least she works and had morals standing by the country that paid her. But I wouldn't expect you to know what loyalty with your racist slurs
Its supposed to be a satirical show that ridicules guests when they get the chance. How many episodes have you watched? Remember how Angus got it after being exposed?
Who else was excited they were discussing jazz lyricist, songwriter and singer Johnny Mercer... Only to realize they're discussing some politician (who stole his name!)
Why does GARY LINEKER GET 1.2 MILLION PER YEAR FOR A FOOTBALL REVIEW SHOW. Supposedly highest paid star in BBC programming.? IT TAKES 7793 PEOPLE TO PAY HIS WAGE.
@@mumofgirls9991 Hislop used to be right wing Conservative now left wing Labour woke struggling to make Private Eye still relevant . God, would the great Peter Cook ever have put up with this little " sperm of the devil " ( apologies to the late Paula Yates. )
I'm not political. I'm not trying to start any discourse. I dont know who Mercer is beyond this short video. That said, he seemed to be very capable of answering those questions. He also seemed direct with his responses. Good for him
This show died when Merton and Hislop flamed Deaton for doing what is generally commonplace for many in that realm, in his private life. Unfortunately been degenerating since.
Jim Ladd Er, Angus Deaton left the show in 2002 - in other words, 17 years ago. So to claim that HIGNFY died at that point is a bit of an overstatement. Also you misuse the word 'denegrating'. Look it up if you don't believe me.
@@clearlake3492 died (figure of speech), in a literal sense, yes an overstatement, in terms of the high water mark of the spirit/effectiveness of the show, for me, alas no. Not sure if it was a typo/misunderstanding BUT , didn't say denigrating. (If that's what you meant).
@@jimladd2774 Clearly I need stronger glasses. Apologies for that. As for HIGNFY going downhill since 2002, it has managed to struggle on despite your disapproval. It just underlines the fact that you can't please everyone.
@@clearlake3492 No apology necessary. My opinion about the show and liking it matters about as much as my "position in society" (U.K.) tho i speculate that is also the causal agent in the magnitude of the mess the UK currently finds itself in , somewhat. That said I personally like both Merton and Hislop and am respectful of his work with Private Eye. I believe they made a mistake in capitalizing on the DENIGRATION of Deaton disproportionately and know it and although the show has been successful and entertaining the hosting has often been disjointed and awkward especially in comparison. Dying was perhaps too loose .
more and more, this program has become a platform for Ian Hislop's over-inflated ego.. Guests come on in good faith, are treated well behind the scenes no doubt, then ambushed in front of the cameras, all in the name of good TV. It's sickening that they used Jimmy Saville in the same way, to get laughs about his dark side when they and the BBC should have been reporting their suspicions to the police. They literally used that predator to boost their ratings. I've long lost interest in HIGNFY.
JC J..for exactly that reason...Hislop is a snivelling little weasel, full of his own self importance trying to get on over on someone who'd beat the shite out of him in a heartbeat....HIGNFY it's presenters and audience will mock and make fun of everybody else not falling for their PC bullshit.
Those that work for the B.B.C. protect it at all costs. I wonder if the others on the panel would like to show us their tax returns and their expenses though if they get B.B.C. expenses they may as well just plead guilty.
Neil Martin I disagree. The real draw of this show when it first started was not the ‘comedy’ aspect, it was that it had some teeth. That’s what’s happening here.
@@kimrunic5874 Not that I'm a massive fan of Johnny Mercer - or any politician for that matter - or anything, but that was just excruciating. You would expect a bit of piss-taking and for guests to be made to feel a bit awkward, but to outright accuse him of fraud? There was no comedy value there. There's a time and a place for that kind of grilling, and this format isn't it.
