HEATED NFC North Debate 

Vegas has Love with higher MVP odds that JG. Is Vegas hating too or being realistic? lol

@@TheSpeakEZPodcastif he has higher odds that means it’s less likely. You sound dumb.

The media wants Love for MVP over Goff. Goff could have better numbers across the board, better team success and Love will still get the vote over Goff. MVP is much more about who the media is pushing over who deserves it.

@@mikeanderson3735 Lamar Jackson proved that theory just this season.

@@mikeanderson3735he could have better numbers but he didn’t 😂

People say players are elite as rookies in game one if they play well so it doesn't surprise me

Okay with us argument are you saying that you think Goff is better than CJ stroud?

@playmakinbacon1775 yes absolutely

@@playmakinbacon1775 it's stupid to think stroud is better when he has so little experience

Using that logic Sam Darnold is the second best QB in the division. You are a genius man.

Facts

Conference championship, not the Superbowl.

Negative

Done beat the Chiefs once before Gibbs was him and LaPorta doing his thing

@@arthurbrazee538 cause he beat the chiefs in the regular season that means he was gone beat him in the Superbowl oh ok I gotcha

Did you even watch a single Packers game the last half of last season? Love better arm than Goff. Love better moving in the pocket and throwing off back foot. Love better against blitzes and pressure. Love more mobile. Love buys time way better. Love doesn't need a perfect pocket and protection like Goff. Love is way more creative and can make throws off platform all day long. He was every bit as accurate as Goff the last half of the season and made as good or better reads. That's who he is. Rather than being figured out the second time against teams he figured them out. Think about all the years Goff has had starting to perfect his craft and Love passed him in half a season. Goff is who he is... a very effective franchise QB when he has a great O-line and the weapons around him and is not pressured. Love's potential is off the charts and the difference last year is he did it with a patchwork O-line, RB who was hurt, WR-1 who was hurt, and with 10 receivers and TEs who were all rookies, second year guys, and practice squad castoffs. He threw for over 4K yards and only had 1 hundred yard game from a receiver all year and no 1000 yard receiver. The difference is Love makes young and mediocre guys look good while Goff is good when he has a great veteran O-line, running game, and receivers. That's not a knock on Goff. He's a very good qb for what the Lions have and will win a lot of games.

Shit Williams hasn't played a game and I've seen people already saying he's way better then goff 😢

So love had less turnovers with less throws. You can turn that argument right around. They also ran more because they had a better OL.

lol

Haha this take is ridiculous. And I’m not saying Love’s better than Goff, but this list of reasons is so bad it’s hilarious

@@malmacian_crunch2641 yeah it's so bad that everyone was saying at the beginning of last season that Love was a bust and packers made a huge mistake. That's how the NFL works, sorry you hate Goff but facts are facts

@@jasonrichards1999 nah Jason you gotta hit the lab again lol

@@TheSpeakEZPodcast hahaha...in 4 years what has Love done vs what has Goff done? Goff has 1 super bowl appearance and multiple NFC championship game appearances vs Love who has 0 of them in 4 years. It's not like the Packers have been under .500 for years. You hate Goff and think he's a liability. Goff has taken the lions farther in 3 years than Stafford did his whole lions career. Stafford had Calvin, Suh, and most of the offensive line minus Sewell so you can't say Stafford had nobody. Plus packers would have made the playoffs if they beat the lions two years ago if they beat the lions the last game of the season. So it's not like Love took over a garbage team. Lions were 12-5. Packers were 9-8. They played the same schedule. The proof is all there that Goff IS BETTER than Love. It's on you if you choose to go with feelings over facts

If u didn’t see the potential and ability of jlove last year I really question ur ability to evaluate talent

@@fullsteamahead78 Potential and production are 2 different things. I see you were one of those ppl.

@@silent1759 He is already there. It is pretty easy to see someone having a great year with question marks about what will happen when they get scouted or lack a perfect situation. Love did it by beating every team he lost to the second time when he had a chance with rookies and undrafted free agents. and the youngest team in NFL history to make the playoffs. He has a complete command of everything right now and a weapon only Mahomes can match with the ability to drift back and back foot throw like he does. Goff needs everything perfect with protection or he falls apart.

@natejeppsen3958 lmao not even gonna entertain that. If all that was true the lions would've faced the packers in the championship gm...not the niners

JLove has more talent than Goff, but at this moment in time I wouldn't say he's a better QB. I feel the same about Hooker vs Goff. Goff just has so much more experienced and is a very cerebral. If Love continues to progress & balls out again this year I think it would be fair to say he's surpassed Goff in the North. FTP tho! One Pride!!!

@@LionsOnTheHunt313Respect to you as a true fan but FTL they can go to hell and rot with Da Bears and the Viqueens. Pride ⬇️ LOL GO PACK GO 💚💚💛💛

@@LionsOnTheHunt313As a Packers fan I will say that Jared Goff had more passing completions, passing attempts, passing yards, passing Yards/ATT, but Jordan Love had more TD passes, rushing attempts, rushing yards, rushing Yards/ ATT, rushing TD’s. Respect to you keeping it with real facts and not being casual your a true fan and the NFC North is going to be tons of fun this season. But to me being a Packers fan it’s always FTL they can go rot and burn along with Da Bears and the Viqueens. Pride ⬇️ Go Pack Go 💚💚💛💛

Hooker not even the best back up 😂

Goff did not play in any preseason games last year, IIRC...so Hooker should QB this year's preseason slate.

​@@ElusivveGoff got traded and got extra picks to talk his terrible contract. It worked out but still remember we got an extra pick to accept him

​@growmiegreenthumb8025 how was his contract terrible? Making mid money as a top 5 QB by every metric you can go by. The relationship between Goff and McVay was ruined because a comment. They had to give up way more because of the situation McVay put them in. They're paying Stafford way more and he's not better than Goff by the #s

@@jerryantaya1266 he doesn’t know anything about football

The entire NFL (players) just ranked Love over Goff. Who’s cares that he’s better. We have the better team! ✊🏽🫡

After 1/6 of the games. Our fans are so dumb it’s incredible.

@@greatwhite3676 - after an entire season

Packers definitely didn't have the 10th best defense. Definitely wanna recheck those numbers

😂😂😂😂 that’s just a lie

@@justinharmon8548 1) Ravens 2) Chiefs 3)49ers 4) Bills 5) Cowboys 6) Steelers 7) Buccaneers 8) Saints 9) Raiders 10) Packers…Profootball reference.

@gallopingLake6 you're talking about scoring defense which is not how defenses are ranked.

The entire NFL (players) just ranked Love over Goff. Who cares that he’s better. We have the better team & we’re going to the SB! ✊🏽🫡

The entire NFL (players) just ranked Love over Goff. Do they hate Goff? What about Dan O who ranked Love over Goff? Who cares that he’s better. We have the better team & we’re going to the SB! ✊🏽🫡

Is it a “schtick” when the entire NFL (players) just ranked Love over Goff. Dan O too? Who cares that he’s better. We have the better team & we’re going to the SB! ✊🏽🫡

Lmfaoooooooo