Heaven and Hell: Pastor Rob Bell Extended Interview 

I've gone to church my WHOLE life. I have been to Baptist, Church of Christ, Nazarene, Pentecostal, and Assembly of God. The one thing they had in common: They all thought THEY were right and everyone else was WRONG. This guy makes the most sense of ANY of them. I think he's basically just saying that it's not about who's right and who's wrong, it's about the love of GOD. That is so incredibly refreshing.

To be honest, I'm slightly concerned if you have absolutely no difficulty with the idea of eternal conscious torment

Rob Bell is awesome! This issue of hell as a place of conscious eternal torment has driven untold thousands of people away from even considering the God of Israel. More often than not hell is referred to as a place of perishing and destruction. God is a consuming fire. The punishment will be eternal, not the punishing. Big difference! The language of the Bible demands we look at this critical issue with open minds and open hearts.

" For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear."--2Tim 4:3

I have seen him much maligned in recent times but I think he is seriously onto it in many ways. I admire his courage for taking the flak and sticking to his guns. He is on the right track.

"Rejects Christ" Really? Have you listened to a word Bell said? On the other hand, Paul said death and hades were defeated. That God would be ALL in ALL again. That in Christ ALL were made alive who were made dead (mortal) by Adam (not just a few lucky enough to make the right decision. But until one can stop reducing the gospel to "hell avoidance", it is hard to grasp these higher thoughts, and that God has a plan for the AGES, not just this age and we're done.

Interesting thing about Rob's loudest and most obnoxious critics are how the thought of having to spend eternity with them sounds like pure hell to me.

And you are being responsible by labeling Rob Bell a heretic?? A man who has given his life to serve God and the body of Christ and the world. I and many are immensely blessed and challenged to go deeper in our life with Yeshua by this man's ministry. Rob is only voicing the questions that many who are real with their faith are asking.

There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love. 1 John 4:18 So if you hear an preaching that causes fear-for example the Endtimes- then you know something is wrong and you can ask questions! Go on and read the New Testament for yourself, start with Romans and go on with Ephesians. Read it as a whole and not as chapters. Truly you will see things that preachers never told you :) Go on an adventure!

Rob Bell represents original Christianity, before Constantine and the Roman empire destroyed it.

Amen! Amen! Amen! What cracks me up is that certain people will be disappointed when they find out there’s not eternal hell and torture. Even though we are instructed in the Bible not to judge others, we’ve put on judges robes and condemned others when that is God’s responsibility, not ours.

The real question is: would you still love God, even if He decided to punish people forever in hell? Or would that cause you to hate God?

Jesus said "if I be lifted up I will draw ALL MEN UNTO ME".. There's room for all in God👍❤️

When John and James wanted to call fire down on the Samaritans' heads because they did not believe Jesus was the Son of God, who did Jesus condemn, His disciples or the Samaritans for not believing the gospel directly from the apostles' own mouth? (Luke9:55-56) Dear Christian, think! These Samaritans, who knew the Law of Moses, rejected disciples who personally knew Jesus AND rejected Jesus Himself. Why didn't Jesus do what the typical modern evangelist do, condemn them to Hell because they didn't "decide to follow Jesus," they "didn't give their hearts to the Lord." According to the modern traditional gospel, these Samaritans were given the chance to go to heaven but they rejected the way. Yet Jesus didn't condemn them - He condemned His own disciples for behaving the way the typical Christian behaves today. Jesus came to save the world, not just a part of it. If He succeeded, then He could rightfully be called the "Savior of the world." But if He failed, then not only could He not claim that title, He could not be the Messiah because He would have failed in the mission of the Messiah.

If believing in the God Rob Bell believes in sends me to hell then I'll be the first person to sign up. I just can't wrap my head around everyone bashing him.

Universalism is the gospel, not that everyone will be saved, but that his love and gift is universal. I hate wordsmiths who make words mean other things... like they do the words in the bible by making Jesus into a serial torturer of souls.

you can make that verse into anything you want. The sound doctrine could be the message of unconditional love and the law of liberty - which self righteous people dont like quite frankly, then they will go to self righteous doctrine which their itching ears want to hear. So I wouldn't quickly pull that verse out of the hat, also remember 1 Timothy 4:10 says that "God is the Savior of all mankind, especially of believers" .. my my Timothy what the hell did you just say?!

u really help me pastor. i struggle being a christian but i watch ur videos to help me wen im struggleing

"Condemned", by the way, means "render negative judgment" - judgment defined by the Divine Law, nowhere in which is torture condoned. On the contrary - the spirit of the Law is restitution, making what is wrong right again.

Go ye in through the strait gate, because wide is the gate, and broad the way that is leading to the destruction, and many are those going in through it; how strait is the gate, and compressed the way that is leading to the life, and few are those finding it!

i pray god will bless you and strengthen you to continue preaching this good news. no more literal reading of the bible is my pray and fasting.

Truly, the law of Love (true judgment) does indeed lead to salvation (liberation). Yet one who was in a very literal hell, Corrie Ten-Boom, knew the truth of: "There is no pit that God is not deeper still". These words have always blest and encouraged me. I pray they do the same for you.

Bells's first sentence in this clip says it all. God is about RESTORATION, not RETRIBUTIION. Until your heart can truly believe that, you will continue to miss the real message of the word. What is God REALLY like? A Father? A Shepherd? Or a slave-driver, executioner, and torturer? Answer this question correctly and you are on the right track.

The whole streets of gold thing always sounded dull to me, but better than spending eternity with pitchforks being stuck in my tush. This was when I was a child. Now I have a greater understanding of the fallen nature and of the Love that has never left us.

Christians need to pray for Rob Bell. He isn't any more evil than any of the rest of us. He's just been deceived. He is saying theologically suicidal things, but he isn't the enemy.

This man is very intelligent. He starts at the very root of Christianity. Preachers like John MacArthur & popular Calvinists have a root that starts at St. Augustine. Their theology derives from Gnosticism. Most Protestant theology starts with 5th century Manichean Gnosticism (both Calvinists and Arminians(but arminians go back and correct some). I have videos that discuss all of this. There is a reason why Rob Bell wrote on sex and Hell. Because, these were the errors of St Augustine.

This is great message. I would ask a simple question in context of parent. For example if your son or daughter walkied up to you and refused your advice and ways as a child would you punish them for all eternity ( or age ) if you said no then you are in truth saying that you are abundantly more mercyfull than GOd the Father. I am pursuaded that God is mercy and love and will redeem the world and all in it.

This is really great. Thank You 🙏🏻😎

A very interesting perspective. I personally liek to give this one: If you walked into a church with the desire in your heart that all men find Christ, you'd be called compassionate, caring, and a person with a heart after God. "Do you believe it will happen though?" they will ask. If you say "Yes", you're a hieratic, deciever, and a person who twists God's Truth.

1 - again, you are making a statement that cannot be supported.. "he does not see the Bible as it really is" - you have failed to prove this and therefore the rest of your judgment falls flat 2 - "hell" is too vague. Do you mean Gehenna, hades, sheol, or the "lake of fire"? All very different things, which unfortunately have been translated or understood as "hell" at one time or another. Most people's view of "Hell" today is rooted in a medieval notion drawn largely from Dante's Inferno

Jesus said, I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE!!!

God is in this place. We can trust him. He loves us. That is my take just now from r.b. as i have just listened again for the 3rd time inna last mo.

How do you deal with Matthew 7:13-14 and your wideness of the way to God? Matthew 7:13-14 “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 14 “For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it. ???

But according to his promise we are waiting for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

Rob Bell is correct! People are way too quick to judge and assume they know God and His Word. Satan is the monster. He lies and steals and destroys. ""Which of you men, if you had one hundred sheep, and lost one of them, wouldn't leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one that was lost, until he found it? " God will make a way for all men to know Him. With God all things are possible.

The argument has been made that if God revealed himself to us, we would be so overwhelmed by his wonderfulness that we could not help but choose him. In that situation--it's been argued--we would be denied our free will and God wants us to freely choose him. If we had the opportunity to know God--and if he were as wonderful as the clergy claim--then we would all freely choose God. That makes perfect sense, and that WOULD BE a free choice because--of course--it's so obvious. Why would anyone make any other decision? The reason people don't choose the Christian god is because he is invisible, unknowable, his message is as obscure and confusing as a sooth sayer's prophecy from Delphi. Everyone interprets Bible passages differently and there is no rock-solid criteria to determine which interpretation is correct. Down through the ages there have been billions of religions. How is anyone supposed to sort through all that and determine which one is the true religion? The task is impossible. For God to withhold knowledge of himself and allow us to make our decision based on error then condemn us for making a mistake and calling that free choice is a lie. For God to play such despicable semantic games proves his dishonesty and evil intent. OR by demonstrating his duplicity he proves his imperfection which stands as evidence that God is not God. He is the invention of an imperfect human, which means: God is not real. He doesn't exist.

When Jesus said He would draw all people to Himself when He is lifted up (crucified), He did not mean that every single person would be saved and end up in heaven. There are those, and there are many of them, who reject his cross. "For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. [1Co 1:18]

Romans 8: For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. for the creation was subjected to futility not of its own will, but because of Him who subjected it in hope (epis=expectation) that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.

Anyone who adds to, takes away from, or changes God's word will have consequences.

"If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains." How clear is that?

Gracious, brave man. Takes courage to have an authentic voice in any religion.

I didn't really take it that way, that he felt people were below him, just that we all need to learn to laugh at ourselves a little, because we're not the bigshots saving the day, Jesus is :-)

I’m 12 years late but I finally agree and don’t believe Rob is a heretic. You could call me the same thing because I don’t believe in the pagan idea of an eternal conscious torment because 1, it’s not in the Bible, 2 Abraham also went to the place 3 the Bible was not inspired 4 the writers had numerous other hands involved writing than only the author accredited.

always was and will be forever more...when our hear happens, it is revealed...As we are true to ourselves not religion or someone else's God or path, ...there we are, in Christ and the Cristo's in us..Very expansion, a radical transformational redemption, consisting of violent faith and the integrity for the spirit.

We Japanese people has also recognized that the same kind of God who teaches us to be kind, generous and honest to others and be humble to each other, to love your kids and your family, etc. was very similar to what those Christians tried to teach among our ancestors.... and still we have to tell that unless we believe in Christ, we are all heading to hell, apart from God...is that reasonable?

I have no idea what "make your own Bible" means...

Right on, very good comments!

I bet that 95% of people judging Rob Bell haven´t even read the book. He never says that hell doesn´t exists, he never says that you can get there by another way besides Jesus. He´s a GENIUS and I´d be afriad of saying something bad about a brother in Christ, just for the small reason that I don´t want to be judged with the same standards as I judged him.

Rob Bell frightens the hell peddlers and damn preachers because he speaks of a God of Grace who seeks to redeem the world - and not just them. When Jesus called out the pharisees of his day and challenged the Powers and Principalities it cost him the Cross. Rob Bell will only get the scorn of hypocrites. The world has made some progress, but the hypocrites still rule.

A Christian is someone who accepts the teachings of Jesus Christ.

logically, you can't be Pro-hell AND Pro-heaven, you can have either one, you can't have both. God can't be both, my God is love, and that is the true gospel.

Jesus Christ was "born under the Law, to Redeem those who were under the Law." {GAL4:4-5} Jesus Christ came first to restore the ancient Hebrew people, then the Gentiles..."I was not sent except to the lost sheep of Yasaral." {MATT15:24}. Jesus Christ taught the apostles, disciples, and Hebrew people the bedrock of everything we do or think has to be based on Love, or it will come to nothing. Christ transitioned the Hebrew people from the Old Covenant into the New Covenant, which is based on Love, and is Spiritual; what is within is what is important. The gentile Believers, who were grafted into the New Covenant by Christ's Sacrifice and the shedding of His Blood, were taught by apostle Paul that unless you have Love, you have nothing. Jesus Christ taught that "If you love Me, you will keep My Commandments." Jesus Christ tells us "And you shall love Yahuah Father the Almighty with all your heart, and with all your mind, and with all your strength. This is the first Command. And the second, like it, is this, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is no Commands greater than these." {MARK12:30-31} Again in JOHN13:34-35 Jesus Christ teaches His apostles and disciples "A new Command I give to you, that you love one another, as I have loved you; that you also love one another. By this shall all know that you are My disciples, if you love one another." Apostle Paul teaches what love is in 1COR13. "Love is patient, Love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the Truth. It always protects, always Trusts, always Hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails. And now three remain: Faith, Hope, and Love, but the greatest of these is Love." Apostle Peter teaches us that "Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since Love covers a multitude of sins." {1PET4:8} The Commandment of Love was also taught in the Old Commandment. "A friend Loves at all times, and a brother is born for adversity." {PRO17:17} "King David and Jonathan had a Love like this as described in 1SAM18:1. As soon as he had finished speaking to Saul, the soul of Jonathan was knit to the soul of David, and Jonathan Loved him as his own soul." Our Heavenly Father is Love. Jesus Christ, the Great I AM in the flesh, that walked the earth 2000 years ago, is Agape Love. When we truly understand the depth of Jesus Christ's Love for us, the price He paid for us, and we truly understand Yahuah Father's Holiness, Faithfulness, and Mercy for us, we can see that all that come to Him, will be forgiven and accepted by Him. We are all Redeemed. Some will come first and some will come last, but when our soul leaves our physical body at our death here on earth, and stands before Him, His Pure Light and Pure Love will overwhelm and overcome all. All will bend their knee in reverential fear, and all will know Him instantly. Do we really believe that our Heavenly Father will leave us in everlasting torment in a place called 'hell'? We as Believers are responsible to get the correct translation of the word 'hell', and let go of our man-made doctrines and traditions, that are incompatible with the Word. Do we really think that someone, using as an example, any one of our Presidents here in the USA, that profess to be Christians and go to church on Sunday; that they will be in Heaven, and a humble, decent, honest, loving person that goes the extra mile for his family and friends, in India or Sudan or in Paraguay, that has never heard the Gospel of Jesus Christ, because of no fault of their own, will be automatically sent to 'hell' for eternity, by our Redeemer and Saviour? I think not. That is not what Jesus Christ and the apostles taught, nor what the Gospels and the Epistles say, and that is not why Jesus Christ came to earth. Jesus Christ died, Resurrected, and Ascended in to Heaven for ALL.

The difference on ‘justice’ is that God made it all. Every single bit of it. Sovereign over all. We made nothing. Not a fair comparison on judgement.

He is just advanced beyond your ability to understand.

Believing in Hell in no religion is required to be taken to Heaven. So, what is so bad about him? Because he hurts your feelings because he says something that you aren't used to. If you want to see true evil, I suggest you all look inside your ind and how you feel about this man, whom still loves God and Jesus, who happens to have a different view than you about what truly is a trivial matter. If you only do good because you are afraid of Hell, you are not a good person. He does good without the fear of Hell. That's what a good person is. Just some thoughts, with an unbiased view.

You can't get around Jesus talking about Hell in Matthew 41-43 41“Then the King will turn to those on the left and say, ‘Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons.g 42For I was hungry, and you didn’t feed me. I was thirsty, and you didn’t give me a drink. 43I was a stranger, and you didn’t invite me into your home. I was naked, and you didn’t give me clothing. I was sick and in prison, and you didn’t visit me.’

"Lies Exposed & Truth Revealed" is a must read for all Christians along with your Bibles

Rob Bell is preaching another gospel.

People that are saying that their view on hell and eternal conscience torment is what the scriptures teach need to do a lot more studying. It is just not that cut and dry. Look at church history as well as scripture. Greater, more competent godly men have debated this for years before we were even born. And don't use the the cop out argument that Jesus taught that some would burn forever. Are you completely sure that is what he meant? Study the scriptures and listen to what others are saying and then prayerfully consider what to believe. Don't just swallow the teachings of your past. Use your God-given brain. Or don't use your brain. If we werent supposed to think then god would not of created us that way.

God is a just Judge, no unrepentant sinner will go unpunished. Love is calling all to repentant and ask for forgiveness because we deserve hell punishment. Christ died so that we no longer have to be under the wrath of God but rather to be saved from it. Those who reject the gospel of repentance and regenaration will have to face their choice. The narrow road is not walked by many..the broad way appeals because one does not have to deal with self, sin, pride etc. Literal hell and heaven exhist..

1 - Your straw man is that Bell rejects Christ. He does not, and you have not proven he does. 2 - Bell is not claiming that there is any other way to the Father except through Christ. So, I don't see either of your proof texts as being applicable here. On the contrary, John 6:44 proves that all will eventually know Christ, as Jesus says elsewhere that if He be lifted up He would draw (lit. drag) ALL men to himself.

But a man can be anointed with the holy spirit and spread that spirit to others! His lampstand burns with a fire that spreads to other lampstands. Carry the torch, spread love and generosity!

Rob Bell studied what the original audience would have understood. We have to review a lot of our medieval and perhaps flawed interpretations passed on to us. Are you willing to open up the discussion or are you afraid?

For those of you who believe in hell as a place of unending torment, I challenge you. Is it God's love and mercy that drew you to Him? Is that what keeps you close to Him? Could you present the Gospel to someone without the threat of hell? Try it. For God so loved the world!!!

my question is Why does one have an issue with the wide embrace of Christ? What is in us that we would want to reject this exclusivity?? It think it may tell more about us then them...

What you fail to understand is that God didn't make the rules; He is the rules. Meaning, for God to change the "rules" He would have to change Himself and God never changes. Also, for God to let sin go unpunished would make God, Himself, a wicked judge. For example, imagine the human being you love the most is brutally attacked and murdered and they're caught & put before a judge. What if the judge just lets the criminal go? Would you be upset? God would be unjust to let sin go unpunished.

1 John 2: 15Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world. 17The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God lives forever.

I would never tell anyone that people who die outside of christ will go to heaven, I would be severly held accountable we all will , we must speak the truth, even if people hate us , jesus said they would, they hated him first and put him to death on the cross, we are to be followers of him. TRUTH and we are not to ever compromise that. people dont risk it, eternital seperation is not worth it, jesus died for you because he loves you, but he didnt just die in vain he died to save you from hell.

Hey Rob, one question... who does the Bible say is the "god of this world" or the "god of the age?"

Thanks, Rob.

Bell wants to champion the concept of holding things in tension, but then seems unable or unwilling for judgment, wrath, and the holiness of God to be part of the tension when it comes to the destiny of humanity and individual persons.

Brilliant man-- blessed with sweet words. May those who have ears hear!

Set down the Bible for a second. Does anyone here not think that a ALL LOVING GOD, could come up with a better plan than to allow a creation to get so out of hand, that said Creator would have to send His Beloved Children to a burning torment for ever and ever. Geez! Anyone on this planet could sit down for 20 minutes and come up with a better plan than that! Folks, you're being played. The Emperors came up with Salvation/Damnation set up to trap people with fear and vanity..."You'll be saved...and everyone else will burn...so join now!" Really? GOD IS LOVE. And a PERFECT GOD has a PERFECT CREATION. This world is just a school, where SOULS are sent to grow in love and giving. Over many lives this is accomplished. Quit letting the Roman Emperors make god into a monster. Quit being enablers.

You have no reason to deny the universality of "all" in the texts I cited, apart from blind adherence to your inherited tradition. The Rom 5 text is especially clear on this matter. And I already addressed the meaning of "eternal" in the gospel texts -- it is qualitative rather than quantitative. And this New Jerusalem also has gates that never close! Interesting! Are people leaving or coming in? And how will be thrown into this literal lake of fire, do tell? Where is death and is he flammable?

please. show me where there is a list and ranking of sin. I have read every verse of the Bible a few times and done research and written commentaries on several of its books and have never found this scale of which you speak. Nor have I found a place where Jesus would have thought lying to your government to be worse than lying to a child

Is it the Christians that mostly call this guy Shmuck and Moron. Is it the Christians that believe their cause is failing when this guy succeeds. It really appears that way dosnt it. I commend this guy for bring to light what is really in the Heart of the Christians.

Done! Now I pray for the stoniness of your heart, in that you are sounding much like the folks at Westboro Baptist. May you know that the goodness of the grace of God is greater than all of the world of sin.

At best that shows annihilationism in Paul, not eternal torment. But merely citing a passage doesn't mean anything, because now you've shown there are contradictions in Paul's own thinking on the matter; the other texts I cited are undeniable affirmations of universalism. Do we leave the contradictions or do we harmonize? And if the latter, why not reinterpret saving the universalist texts, rather than using the apparent hell texts as a limit? Why preserve the hell texts rather than the others?

JESUS WINS!

And you call yourself a Christian? stop feeding your pride and ask God to fill your heart with love to accept people who think different than you. The problem with people like you is that you want so bad to have God run the world like you want Him to, rather than listening to what He has to say and how He runs things around here. Remember, your ways are not God's ways!

I have really enjoyed afresh breeze for few years from r.b. Video. it used to be very painful to read the nasty things people. Said about him. Tonight I could read with some kind of love like is talked about in al-anon when you detach with love from people who are addicts. And then there are the'dry drunks'

Don't forget that God is a loving God above every thing! Hell is not something God created, but rather is a mental, emotional, and spiritual place that we, ourselves, put ourselves in because of ignorance and sin. God is not out to get us and punish us. Things are not black and white with God, that's what makes Him who He is loving and merciful! He will take in accountability where we have come from and the type of estate we have been raised, that is why it can be just black and white.

for anyone to say that people who leave this earth will not go to hell are NOT speaking the truth, you can say what you like against those who speak the truth on this subject, but we only speak what Gods word says, his word is VERY plain, twist the scriptures all you like, but you cannot change the meaning, its very clear, satan would love for us to believe that we will never go to hell, because if we die outside of christ he has them. be careful what you speak, you will be help accountable.

I think people in general have a problem with not judging, its as if they get empowered by the thoughts of someone burning in an ever burning torture chamber while they live in bliss in heaven drinking sweet wine and smiling and laughing all the while members of their family burn in agony. Eternal hell is a pretty twisted doctrine that paints God as a pretty bad failure.

not arguing the existence of hell but you're challenge is flawed. Please feel free to check behind me with a concordance, but the subject Jesus spoke of the most is also the one He spoke of first: "The Kingdom of Heaven is upon you"

Mt 7: 18-19 "A sound tree cannot bear bad fruit than a bad tree can bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire." How does one bear good fruit ? By doing good works !! 21-23 "None of those who cry out 'Lord, Lord' will enter the kingdom of God, but ONLY the one who DOES the Will of My Father in Heaven". "... When that day comes,any will say 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your Name? Have we not exorcised demons by it's power? Did we not do many miracles in Your Name as well? Then I will declare to them solemnly 'I never knew you. Out of my sight you evildoers !'"

hmmm. not totally following you, but suffice to say people have proof-texted their position over centuries and we still have no consensus. So, you might consider giving a little grace to those who disagree with you.

True, we do not wrestle against flesh and blood.

"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." -Founder of Christianity.

Christians seem to really hate this guy because he isn't quite as hateful and judgmental as they would prefer a pastor to be. Says a lot about the cult of Christianity, doesn't it?

Jesus talked about hell more than any other subject. Yes, Jesus makes a new world. But hell is real, too, or else Jesus wouldn't have talked about it so much. You cannot talk about the Gospel and Jesus Christ without talking about the reality of hell. This isn't being negative. This is a warning! The whole truth, not partial.

Heaven and hell is on earth..it's in your mind ..it's not a destination

So the Bible talking about a new Heaven and a new Earth...? (As in Revelations 21, "Then I saw 'a new heaven and a new earth,' for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea").

If there is no hell then why do i need a savior? If I can live my life however I want then why do I need forgiveness? Why do I need church, why do I need a pastor?

You are naive. The same scriptures teach that "the mystery of [God's] will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ" is "to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ" (Eph 1:9-10); that " in Christ all will be made alive" and "God may be all in all" (1 Cor 15:22, 28); that "just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people" (Rom 5:18). Why do you ignore this testimony?

If a man has the fruits of the Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22) in him then that is evidence that God abides in him and he in God (John 14:23-24). Not all who say they know justice do, but those who walk in the Spirit do reflect that "sense" which God gave them to know His will, to discern it, to recognize that the scriptures of the Bible proclaim it.

Doesn't mean he's a false teacher. He just has a hope that got is more merciful and loving than people give him credit for. Besides, plenty of the early church fathers expressed hope that Jesus would save even those who have never believed. Also, while on the topic of the doctrine of hell.. What about 3rd parable of Matt 25? Jesus says he'll divide the 'nations', and the sheep will enter the kingdom. The sheep were the ones who did good deeds. They didn't even know they were doing it for a God.

If God had a message He wanted to communicate to his loving and devoted followers (or even to the whole world), why would he put his message in a format so esoteric and symbolic that it would be difficult or even impossible to interpret. The purpose of communication, after all, is to communicate. Why not just say what he means? God is not stupid. He invented calculus and created the Higgs bosom particle. Surely, He understands that in communicating to billions of people on earth, some of them will be geniuses and some--let’s say--intellectually challenged. For his message to have its best effect, it should be in a format easily understood by as many people as possible, especially since a message from God is liable to determine whether a person goes to Heaven or burns in agony forever in Hell. Since God can do anything, he could simply snap his fingers and presto, everyone would understand his message perfectly and mistakes would be unheard of. So, when a message comes from God in a format that would make the oracle of Delphi proud, what are we to make of that? It is possible the fault lays not with God but with the messenger. Suppose the messenger is a con artist who makes an easy living hoodwinking devout Christians by dazzling them with flimflam. To establish his credentials as a messenger of God, the fraudster claims to be a prophet. This entails some problems because it requires him to prophesies occasionally. The con artist can no more foretell the future than anyone else, so he reverts to a little mumbo jumbo-symbolic language 😜. If he gets the prophesy wrong, he can always argue that YOU misinterpreted God’s message. “It’s all YOUR FAULT.”

What a twisted sense of salvation. Are you saying if there was no hell you wouldn't be a Christian?? "Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." "The people walking in darkness have seen a great light...they rejoice before you as people rejoice at the harvest" "I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly"

2 Peter 3:10-12 - But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!