Hebrew Bible: Which is best for learning? JPS vs. BHS vs. Zondervan vs. Hendrickson + more! 

I use it and love it as well.

I wouldnt recommend it. The print quality is so bad that you cant read the greek diacritic signs properly

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Also, there's the "Reader's Edition" of the Greek Septuagint in 2 volumes (Rahlfs’, edited by Gregory H Lanier and William A Ross, published by Hendrickson Publishers / Deutsche Bibel Gesellchaft). This edition of the LXX does not contain the Alpha Esther, sadly. Combined with the Greek New Testament Reader’s Edition by Tyndale House and published by Crossway. *Note:* I stood between choosing the Hebrew Reader’s Bible and the English Standard Version Interlinear ... and went with the Interlinear.

How long do you think it would take for someone with average intelligence limited to 30/60 minutes a day to be able to learn to read Hebrew at a modest proficiency?

@@Chomper750 In my humble opinion: just be courageous enough to start learning at your pace and everything you do, *do with prayer* Immerse yourself into prayer! Don't count the days or hours when you study. If you can allocate only 10 minutes today, do it for 10 minutes. And if tommorow for 20, do it for 20. Be grateful for every moment given to you by G-d! Best regards!

Shalom akhi (I'm also M.O.T.) :) מאכלת Machelet doesn't mean "a blade for human flesh" it's a blade for butchering (sacrificial purposes)

I'm a Jewish believer, from Israel. As a native Modern Hebrew speaker, I have to say that even for us it's difficult to understand the true meaning of the original text. Although we're probably "best equipped" for it, some texts are more than 80% or 90% clear, while others seem to be almost like gibberish (Book of Job after the first chapter). Also, some words in Modern Hebrew received a new meaning or a meaning with semantic similarities but not quite what it meant in the Old Testament itself.

Shalom akhi@@alexvig2369, I'm also Israeli (an oleh), and I think in some ways it's even worse to be a native speaker of Modern Hebrew; the reason is not just tehillim, mishlei, iov, etc. but from that 80% or 90% you mentioned is very often people THINK they got it when really there are still some things that the thought was the same but was not. Like you mentioned on vocabulary but also time; time works quite differently in Tanakhit in fact it's more about aspect than time. be well, am Yisrael chai, od avinu chai

Good points but there are some other texts you left out in Hebrew and other languages as I am sure you know.

@David Matthess: Can you please provide me with the ISBN for that, or some other way to find it? Been looking for a Bible like that, but without success so far.

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The Crossway Hebrew Reader’s edition is fantastic. I love mine.

@@mattfuller651 ,u love yours lol.here we go the truth coming up,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful , O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind

here we go the truth coming up willy,actually turah&bible were from god but they had been corrupted afterwards as a result god sent down quran upon prophet muhammed&god said i`ll preserved the quran thereby god had fulfilled ,let me show u friendly&honestly the truth,okee dokee.sheding the light on christianity to know the truth first of all there is no original bible the 4 main bible are contradicted to each other yet there is 1 quran but who is the writer of bible the answer is paul the jewish who hates jesus let us discuss about the significant event which is crucifixion why does your claimed god left his only son to crucify without any sin he had committed the disaster reached its uttermost when u found bible said on the tongue of jesus my god my god why do u forsaken me means jesus never crucified willingly have u an idea why do they crucify jesus because it`s a penalty of impure &particularly crucifixion because dindn`t touched the earth make it impured that what paul said jeasus get impure for us &see the authentic god what does said in quran chapter 3 verse 55 by the name of god the most gracious&most merciful , O Jesus, I will take you and raise you up to me, and had purified you from those who disbelieve, and He will place those who follow you above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection, then to Me is your return, so I will judge between you regarding that in which you differed,the authentic god rose jesus to the sky before they kill him in addition he had purified him from a false accusation that he is impure the quran verse is comply with the bible itself :So they lifted up stones to stone him. But Jesus did and went out of the temple, passing through them." ( John 8:59 ),let alone of many verses in the bible incites to violence thus u found the largest massacres had happened in history the ww1&2 christian countries against christian countries 100 millions had been killed not to mention the sex stories in the bible nay u never found a single sex word in quran,don`t take it in personal just i clarify u the plain truth,bible said woman when she during the menstruation she gets impure &any thing she would touched it will be impure &should stay at her room till had done of it don`t see that an insulting to woman &how does the claimed god in bible said so he demeans& underrates his own creatures, yet islam honored the woman &she has a complete chapter its name women show us her rights,let us look at modern medicine which refutes the bible, ovulalation happens every 28 days from overy next month from other ovary when fertilization fails to happen mestrual bleading happens it always stops when a female gets pregnant ,menstrual cycle ovulation the female genital system consists of one uterus to overuse vagine& externat genital organs ,,the blood during menstruation could cause diseases to spread and that’s why a woman during her menstruation needed to isolate so the blood would not be passed around to other people And diseases not be spread that`s what god said in quran and they ask you about menstruation say, isolate women don't come near them untill they get purified verse 222 chapter 2,why there are priests,pastors&nuns reverted daily to islam,yet u never a muslim clergy left islam as per western media said that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,i didn`t like to push islam onto u god said no compulsion in religion verse 256 chapter 2,figure it out then make up your mind

Wonderful!

Good idea!

Here is the link for it if RU-vid doesn’t take it down TBS Hebrew Greek Bible Review ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-csYHsPpAH9Q.html

I have a Tanakh Simanim. It has different forms for qamats depending on whether it's /a:/ or /ɔ/, different forms for schwa whether it's pronounced or not, and the like. The explanation is in Hebrew, and I don't understand the explanation as well as the Bible text itself.

I recommend just getting a regular BHS - the first one in the list in the description. It contains everything you need. If you have Logos, I’d get the Logos edition rather than a physical edition, but if you want a physical edition then just get this one. All the details (Masora, etc) will be clarified later on, and it will be good to have it for later reference. There is a lot to learn, and as you are introduced to it all, you’ll find it enriches your understanding of the scriptures! Hope this helps!!

​@@bma what tanakh has the Name of God ?

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Thank you @TheJesusNerd40 for mentioning Aleppo! So many people, including experts, are oddly unaware of (or at least unreceptive to) anything other than BHS. BHS body text is not even that accurate a transcription of L. And even the best transcription of L is not appropriate for general purpose use. A good general purpose Hebrew Bible must draw on not just L but other sources, chief among them being the Aleppo Codex. This does not seem widely known.

Bible hub's Leningrad codex comes with niqqud - very helpful for a beginner.. How is it with the BHS ??

All bibles are with nikud​@@ing-mariekoppel1637

@@ing-mariekoppel1637 All Hebrew Bibles are with nikud

I generally use the Logos Septuagint with Morphology which you can find at mntg.me/logoslxx. This is simply a Rahlf-Hanhart edition in electronic form. I don't often use the Septuagint in physical form, but when I do I have a German Bible Society edition I use.

I really like mine.

You are mostly right. Why are you letting accurate information get in the way of what we are trying to do here? One caveat to your statements.....there older Hebrew inscriptions than the Dead Sea Scrolls (which are fantastic by the way). For example there is a silver amulet with the Priestly Blessing on it I believe.

I haven't seen a copy yet. If I get a chance I'll take a look. Thanks for your comment!

@@bma, thanks!

I spotted that too, but he likely misspoke since he got the century range correct-ish.

Totally. I mis-spoke. :) Thanks for watching!

@Master Biblical Languages Keep up the content, it's great stuff.

Not in my experience. Only the covers are superior.

Snaith's edition from a Yemeni manuscript. Yes, I always had to try to remember _Threni_ when doing my Hebrew A-level (Lamentations was a set text). But _threnus_ *is* Latin for a dirge, and Lamentations is a _qinah,_ a dirge, I suppose, for Jerusalem. While Jerome uses the term _planctus_ to translate _qinah,_ Jerome's contemporary, the poet Ausonius, does use _threnus_ in his verse and I suppose it was a more literary - and new-fangled - term (presumably Jerome rejected this Hellenizing word as inappropriate for the popular speech he was aiming for). Servius too, again a contemporary, uses _threnicus_ as the name of a type of anapaestic verse with two anapaestic feet per line and no catalexis. *thrēnus, i,* m., = θρῆνος, _a song of mourning, a lamentation, dirge, elegy_ (syn. planctus ), Aus. _Prof._ 5, 3; 7, 3; 14, 5. [Lewis and Short]

Thanks. Of course you're right, that was a slip of the tongue!

Nasb

Yes, it is a version of the Leningrad Codex.

@@kellymcgrew9949a version?

Oh thanks! Just fixed it!

Thanks! Fixed!

I've got a copy that I've been meaning to review for a while, so maybe I'll get to it soon. :)

You appear to be misinformed. Tyndale House doesn't have a new *edition* of the Hebrew Bible like they did with the Greek New Testament (with its own text-critical edition, apparatus, etc) but instead is just their own printing of the same Leningrad Codex text used by the JPS and BHS

@@justinj_00I’m sorry for the misunderstanding. When I said “their own” I just meant they published a Hebrew Bible, not that they had a new edition. I enjoy the Greek Bible, not only for its unique take of manuscripts, but the material used to print it. I don’t care for the formatting of the UBS like I do Tyndale, and I’d love to get the Hebrew Bible they published because it’d be so much easier to read; however it is pretty expensive

SEPTUAGINT was translated from PALEO-HEBREW, a version of the Old Testament some 1000 years older that The Masoretic. NO SCROLL in existence any longer, so we must pick from the LXX as much as we can (the LXX is a very poor translation, with some omissions and strange additions). The MASORETIC, kept in almost perfect order, was however changed or modified in antiquity in quite a few places, especially where prophecy regarding the coming of Messiah is concerned. The BEST Version of The New Testament is actually in ARAMAIC, the text of the oldest codex a bit older than ANY EXTANT GREEK manuscript or codex. Also, Greek was severely vandalized from the late first and second centuries... Aramaic was better preserved by The Eastern Christians than the Greek of The Western world... Bible has a very interesting and intriguing history..... PLEASE CONTACT ME if you need more directions, absolutely free information, my E-Mail address is: nairelav@aol.com. Please use the subject title "ARAMAIC TEXT OF THE NT" so I can easily recognize your message - I get quite a lot of undesired messages...

I've not come across scholars who would argue that we have to use the dead sea scrolls. Certainly I've come across some that have said we need to consider the Dead Sea Scrolls but that isn't the same as considering them authoritative over the Masoretic text. All my professors considered the DSS with caution.

Thanks for your comments. I disagree that considering the Tanak as the Old Testament is antisemitic or antinomian. That feels like an over-simplifiction (at best). Instead it recognizes that God's redemptive plan has been revealed in two primary phases, reflected in two groups of revelatory texts. I believe they are both authoritatively the word of God (divine revelation) and that neither is superior to the other, but both together are the product of God moving human authors to write what He wanted written (2 Peter 1:19-20). I don't believe that the Quran is authoritative (though I know that it is sacred in Islam), so I'm not sure why you've even suggested this. Thanks again, I hope this clarifies.

Nope. The LXX manuscripts we have are after Jesus. The original Jewish Septuagint only had the 5 Books of Moses and it was lost to history in the fire of the library of Alexandria.

JPS refers to the English translation done by the Jewish Publication Society. The publisher produces English only or Hebrew-English. They don’t provide a Hebrew only edition.

Yes, but not as well as Greek. 😉

The LXX you’re reading is after Jesus. The original Jewish Septuagint was only the 5 Books of Moses and it was lost in the fire that destroyed the library of Alexandria.

@@christo-chaney - Jesus and the Apostles quoted from the LXX. They didn't have a lot of Hebrew scrolls in the first century A.D. When you read the Book of Hebrews, for example, some of the prophecies fulfilled by Jesus are found in the LXX but are either excluded from or written completely differently in the Masoretic Text. The Masoretic Text was an answer to those fulfilled scriptures from the Septuagint and that's why it differs. The Masoretic Text was written in the 900s A.D. while the Septuagint goes back well before then - when Greek was the lingua franca of the known world (well before the Roman Empire). The Jews spoke Greek (as did most of the civilized world) and that's why they translated the Hebrew Old Testament (et. al.). By the time Jesus came along the Jews were used to reading from and quoting the Greek. That's why the New Testament quotes the Greek Old Testament when citing prophecies that Jesus fulfilled. And that's why the Jews had to change that text after a thousand years. It all goes back to politics. But it annoyed me when the Book of Hebrews would cite a passage that I could not find anywhere in the Old Testament. "And let all the angels of God worship Him." You can't find that in the Masoretic Text or in any of the modern English translations. It's not there. But if you look for it in the Septuagint, it's there in the Book of Deuteronomy. They had to change the Old Testament because of all the prophecies that Jesus fulfilled. If you change the Old Testament then Jesus doesn't appear to be a fulfillment of it. It's all politics.

@@GizmoFromPizmo the Masoretic Text wasn’t written in response to the LXX. Hendrickson Publishers in their Greek-English Septuagint clearly said that the original Jewish LXX was only the 5 Books of Moses and the 4 manuscripts of the LXX we now have are long after the New Testament. Furthermore, it even says the translation of Isaiah was the absolute worst done. The Jews didn’t change the Hebrew letters. All that was done was vowels & punctuation marks were added. If the Masoretic Text is so wrong then why do almost all Christian Bibles keep translating from it?

You do know that "dressing up" a later document to simply seem older could never fly for the level of physical dating techniques used today. The idea that the Jews would corrupt their OWN SCRIPTURES to undermine Christians is as stupid as it is mad. The Vatican wickedly modified their abhorrent Torah translations into an OT with polytheistic/human-derived rubbish filled rag.

@@espositogregory - Believe it or not, the evidence is all there. The later Masoretic Text (9th century AD) is different from the 3rd century BC Greek translation. It's different BECAUSE of the Christians were eating the rabbi's lunch with this Jesus fellow. The Masoretic Text changes the lengths of the lives of people in the Old Testament in order to throw off the date of Jesus' advent - just to prove that He could not possibly be the Messiah. The Jews did indeed change their OWN scriptures in order to dethrone the King. Don't be surprised by this. Not only that, they change the definition of the Hebrew word traditionally translated "virgin" so that Mary didn't have to be a "virgin" but simply a young woman. It's just like today. The "woke" Left changes the definitions of words in order to throw everybody off. "How could Columbus have discovered America when there were already people living here?" The implication is that "discover" now means, "created out of nothing". Columbus didn't create America out of nothing because there were already people living here. Discover doesn't mean "find" anymore because of a political agenda. Do you think the Jews are above that kind of thing? Politics is politics. And don't get me started on the Gnostic Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus. These are touted as the oldest and best and they are definitely neither the oldest nor the best. They are essentially Gnostic and they have been dressed up to look ancient. Smearing the pages with lemon juice to turn them yellow, is kind of a clue that people were manufacturing fake manuscripts.

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@@bma I understand. My apologies for attaching that to you. Thank you for the video. I’m studying Hebrew and your suggestion has been applied.