Helen Joyce on Youth Gender Medicine | The Good Fight with Yascha Mounk 

She is LYING to you. The Cass review was discredited as greatly FLAWED, Even Cass herself has said so. Here is the REAL truth about Gay and Transgenderism: It is NOT about chromosomes (the XX or the XY) or the BODY, it is about the STRUCTURE of the human brain. A Doctor with a Ph.D. in Genetics and his team did research on the STRUCTURE of the human brain. They studied the brain of straight women and straight men, gay women, and gay men, as well as transgendered women and transgendered men. What they found is this, the STRUCTURE of the brain between a male and a female is as different from each other as night is from the day. They also found that there are two distinct and separate areas of the brain that deal with sexuality and gender. They found that the area for sexual orientation in gay men is STRUCTURED the same as in straight women, NOT straight men, and in gay women, that area is STRUCTURED the same as in straight men, NOT straight women. Likewise, the center in the brain that deals with gender identity is the same, in transgender women (male to a female) it is STRUCTURED the same as in cis-women, (born and identify as female) NOT cis-men, (born and identify as male), and in transgender men, (female to male) it is STRUCTURED the same as in cis-men, NOT cis-women. It has been STRUCTURED this way since BEFORE birth. Two other teams in different parts of the world doing the same study all independent of each other found the exact same results. When a baby is first formed in the womb it is formed 100% female. Then after a few weeks, a signal from the father's genes tells the baby's body, the body only, to change and become male. The baby goes on for a few more weeks this way until it can produce a massive amount of the male hormone testosterone, which then tells the brain to change into the male pattern, such a massive amount will never be seen in that Child's life again except at the onset of puberty. If for some reason that baby does not get that massive dose of testosterone in the womb then the brain, or parts of it, continues to develop in the female pattern. Or in the case of gay women or Trans men, at some time in the mother's pregnancy that baby received a small dose of testosterone at the wrong time, either the mother ingested it somehow or her body produced it or the baby’s own body produced it all of which can and have happened. When a baby is being formed in the womb, any variation, even in the slightest, of the chemicals can cause birth defects. You have seen these birth defects in babies being born all the time, some born blind, or deaf, born with missing limbs, or heart problems, or even with a spine outside of the body, and many, many others. So why is it so hard for the right to believe that a person’s BRAIN can be STRUCTURED in the opposite way from what their bodies say they should be? You can believe in all other birth defects so why not this? I will use transgender women for this example, even though the body is male she likes all the same things a cis-gender woman likes, her emotional likes, wants and needs are the same as any woman's, and the way she sees the world is the same. Her interactions are the same, everything about her is the same as any cis-gender woman except the body. Sexual characteristics (the body) are set by the genes (the XX or the XY) but Gender is set by the STRUCTURE of the BRAIN, this has been proven through sound scientific study. Gender is how one see themselves and their place in the world and how they interact with it. If your body is set one way and your brain the other it causes a disharmony of mind and body (gender dysphoria) it is not now or ever has been a DELUSION or a PERVERSION or a MENTAL ILLNESS. When someone is going through life with this Dysphoria their life is a living hell, when people tell them that they can't be WHO they are inside because that person is uncomfortable with it then you are forcing the trans person to live in severe PAIN, Anxiety, and Depression, a PAIN that having your arms and legs cut off with a dull rusty hacksaw without any anesthetics seem like nothing in comparison, a pain that kills, LITERALLY KILLS. Think of everything you like and want as a man or a woman, everything that makes you, you, and then think how you would feel if you were constantly told that you can't have it, or be it, or do the things you love, because you are the opposite of who and what you are now, that you must bury everything that makes you, you because other people don't like it because it makes them uncomfortable, If constantly you were told that you were evil and dammed because you are who you are, denied a job, or a home, insulted, belittled, assaulted and even targeted to be KILLED just because you exist, how would you feel? Women, think how would you feel if you were forced to live, think, told to feel like and be a man, And told that you MUST do what men do, how men do it, see things the way men see them in order to be a man and you MUST be a man and that something is wrong with you if you don’t? How would you handle that? Men, think how you would feel if you were forced to live, think, feel, and be a woman? Told that you MUST do what women do, how women do it, see things the way women see them in order to be a woman and you MUST be a woman and that something is wrong with you if you don’t? How would you handle that? A trans woman does NOT fit, in a man’s social circle the same way a man does and yet they are expected to if they do not go through transition, they are expected to think, feel, and act just like any cis-gender man in that circle, but they can’t because their brain is STRUCTURED differently, so they are insulted, belittled beat on ridiculed, and humiliated by these men, constantly, all because their brain is STRUCTURED the same way a cis-gender woman’s brain is STRUCTURED. With their brain being STRUCTURED that way they would fit into a woman’s social circle but with their bodies being male, again they don’t fit in and they are excluded. They want to wear the same outfits the women wear because their brains tell them they should be just like them. Everything inside them SCREAMS that they are just like the people who are of the opposite gender and yet they are NOT allowed to be because other people are uncomfortable with them doing so, so they are FORCED to live in severe PAIN, anxiety, and depression. Trans people just want to be accepted for who they are, they want and are deserving of the very same rights as everyone else, no more and NO LESS. Here is the truth about the road to transition: First, the person MUST go to therapy, no therapy no transition, they will meet with a therapist who has knowledge and experience with transgender people. During this time they will begin social transitioning, social transitioning is nothing more than changing one's name and pronouns, and appearance such as hairstyle and clothing. Then after a number of sessions with the therapist (usually about a year) if the Dysphoria continues, and depending on the age of the person they may be given puberty blockers, (which are reversible). Then after many more sessions with the therapist and again if the Dysphoria continues they may be given hormones, it is these that have irreversible effects. Last: when they reach the age of CONSENT (CONSENT, NOT A KID, NO ONE IS DOING SURGERY ON KIDS) and if the Dysphoria continues, and if they have lived in the gender of their choice for a MINIMUM of 1 full year, and have letters from two therapists with one having a P.HD in psychology with both therapists having seen the person over a period of time they may get a consult from the surgeon, and there is usually a long waiting list for that, after the consult if the surgeon agrees then you get on the long waiting list for the surgery. IF ANYONE TELLS YOU DIFFERENTLY FROM THIS THEY ARE LYING TO YOU. Definition of a woman: How you define a woman is by how she sees herself, a woman is one who sees herself as one in mind and soul. If a person sees themselves as a woman, thinks as a woman, acts as a woman, and lives as a woman, then what is the harm to treat and respect her as one? If you cannot have compassion for another human being then how can you ask others to have compassion for you? Show compassion, empathy, and respect by calling them the name they prefer and with the pronouns they prefer. It does NOT harm you to do so but it does great harm to them when you don’t. Definition of a Man: How you define a man is by how he sees himself, a man is one who sees himself as one in mind and soul. If a person sees themselves as a man, thinks as a man, acts as a man, and lives as a man, then what is the harm to treat and respect him as one? If you cannot have compassion for another human being then how can you ask others to have compassion for you? Show compassion, empathy, and respect by calling them the name they prefer and with the pronouns they prefer. It does NOT harm you to do so but it does great harm to them when you don’t. Some of you reject the LGBTQ community because you have a need to feel morally superior to others, “pull the beam out of your own eyes before you try to pull the mote out of another’s”. Some of you reject the LGBTQ community because you don’t understand it and it fills you with fear, fear of something that is different from what you are used to, different from YOU, either one goes forward or one stagnates and dies, you limit your thinking and can’t or won’t learn, grow, and adapt. Some of you reject the LGBTQ community because you just want to hate and hurt others, it gives you a sick thrill, and you use the LGBTQ as an excuse to do so. But ALL of you who do these are small, weak, insecure, monumentally stupid, and utterly pathetic excuses of human beings.

Exculansic (I don't know her real name) is excellent also, as is Wesley Yang and Leor Sapir.

She is an eugenicist

Measured? Yascha pointed out that you lose something when you completely prohibit children from getting any sort of hormonal treatment and we should have compassion either way and she was just like "nope".

@@susanhill833 cass said that placebo can make you grow its so yeaaah

She is LYING to you.

@susanhill833 You are the liar. Spoto!!

@@Islas_Canarias No I am not, what I said was and is truth.

@@susanhill833 example please

@@susanhill833 Well here is another truth: Men who pretend to be women are not accepted by most people esp. women who have pre-existing rights and spaces based on sex and do not accept them as women.

I feel that Helen Joyce is incredibly compassionate, and she demonstrates how to apply rational reason for a dignified, compassionate outcome for all. I agree - politicians absolutely should listen to her, and take notes!

Exulansic did excellent analogy with religion

And he kept interrupting her

You mean he isn't ticking every single box on the anti-trans bingo card?

@@MrCmon113 no he just doesn't get the conceptual shift to there-is-no-trans-soul

That is a very important point. He seems to think sexuality is a political statement.

LGB equality requires no fake names, fraudulent pronouns, synthetic, cross-sex hormones, and possibly mutilating cosmetic surgeries to be 'authentic.' What could be less authentic than all of that in the futile quest to be something you're not and never will be.

And thankfully as a mathematician, unmatched in logic and critical thought 😊

She is planning a genocide

I think he is playing devil's advocate here.

@@ratonsito2836 exactly

@@ratonsito2836 Or maybe he's not a complete ideologue and actually thinks about individuals and their problems? Yascha: "We should also have compassion for children growing up with a sex they feel horrible with and who don't get any treatment." Helen: "Nope."

@@MrCmon113 There are some things in life we cannot change, tou can accept that or live a lie as a fake opp-sex impersonator on a journey of futility.

What? He does! I much prefer this back and forth rather than her usual monolog. While I think he was playing devil's advocate, because he brought up some different ideas, I think it brought out some of her insightful perspectives that she may not have normally touched on. This was one of my favorite Helen Joyce interviews.

He really doesn't get it.

He doesn't think that all trans people are this evil cabal coming together to screw over women.

Well said!!

Jesus Christ, write normally.

@@Tawny593 r/iamverysmart 😂

@@balalaika852 Good one. 😂

Thank you. Let’s hope the facts he heard begin to make it into his actual brain. Sometimes it takes a bit of reflection.

How dare he have compassion with children, who suffer from gender disphoria? You must hate all the trans!

Don't even have sex-workers in Brazil to pad the numbers like with homicides.

Sex binary is world wide

@@helendancelot this is about gender modern lgbt groups is enough to disprove your proposition, as is historical groups such as the bugis society, chibados, hijra, kathoey, two-spirits, etc.

100 too many.

And what?

How do you know that? The figures I've heard is less than 1000, but with the caveat that is the number covered by Medicaid (in the US), that there's no way to gather figures either for private insurance or families who pay out of pocket

In which country? What are your sources for this?

yes, that is not a big group. for now. but look at the increase over the last 15 years. it grew significsntly in girls.