Helicopters Won’t Just Drop Like A Rock If The Engine Dies 

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I know right, urgh. Can't they make a brief video instruction or something? Reading is for nerds!

I want pictures like IKEA!

You'll prolly get killed if you don't. 😋

Well I hope you do!

Red Whovian I'm his number 1 hater

Red Whovian his voice is my bleach

+What Did I Just Make Edits you use his voice to clean stains off of your clothes?

J0n p3r3s yes

lol why are guys so harsh against him

same

Yup. So satisfying too. My favorite part of playing a pilot

Arma 2 is a Military simulator. I bet you feel pretty stupid. Simulation - "the representation of the behavior or characteristics of one system through the use of another system, especially a computer program designed for the purpose."

I fly Hawks and think arma is pretty realistic. minus the control touch ability....

control touch ability?

Anyway, a short 10 seconds video of it would have been nice, and had visualized the whole thing more. After all, he had all the diagrams already in the video.

+Stan Albatross +Stipan Lisica He didn't explain it fully imo. He did mention most of how it works but. A video wouldn't help you at all because what you do is basically a completely normal landing. I have been in a helicopter with an instructor and asked him to do an autorotation landing. He throttle down to idle and we just slowly glide down towards the ground. While you glide down you build up rotation momentum in the rotorblades. Just like if you hold a fan up and swing it through the air without it being powered it will start spinning. When we get close like a couple meters (1 meter = ~3 foot) above ground he would just pull the collective pitch up using the built up rotation to slow down and make a soft landing. If this was video'ed from the outside it would just look like a normal landing.

If you watched until the end of the video. He provides a link to watch this in action.

Stipan Lisica yup

and you would have learned nothing, nice

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His pilot should be fired

@@nuclearthreat545 he is in fact fired. Literally. But seriously tho the rotors probably locked up.

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RIP Kobe

AZA'MA'AL YAH-SHA-AHLA shut the hell up. Why must their be external forces being the cause of things and not ourselves?

@AZA'MA'AL YAH-SHA-AHLA trust you? GTFO lol

a friend of mine works on rigs told me that...... the blades just break off THEN you fall like a rock

Ian Colquhoun what's gear box failure?

Ezee Posse FM ok, what exactly is the gear box and what does it do?

Reduces engine rpm to rotor rpm. The bearings for the output shaft take the entire weight of the helicopter. Failure of the gearbox loses drive, and so long as the pilot is quick, the rotor can be configured like an autogyro, and the hekicopter can be converted to a glider. Failure of the support bearings or any part of the suspension system of the rotor is regarded as a significant probem, unless the (small) helicopter has a ballistic 'chute system, because it is usually followed by and immediate splatdown..

I agree with you.

@Crystal Kirkland. I am. Such a tragedy. 😢😢

He is talking rubbish ; Choppers are never safe

BENJAMIN K nigga anythin off the ground my feet on are not safe 😡😡😡

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I started hearing about him after he died

Green Buzz flames engulfed the helicopter due to yhe engine...ಠ_ಠ

@@roymuzuwa7108 Was it? I heard the pilot was circling around before it crashed

Is that confirmed I heard they were blaming it on fog

@@DrGreenBuzz Dunno, still being investigated. I heard that too and it does get really foggy overthere. The flight report stated that it was circling the area prior to crash. Could be they were trying to avoid nearby houses or maybe lost in the fog. Check out Adrian Wojnarowski espn reporter twitter feed.

He didn't cut the engine off. The blades was still spinning and the copter was on fire b4 it fell for some reason.. Untrained pilot?? What was he doing while it was spinning? He didnt use Autorotation. How many hours did he have flying?

Same

Albanian Eagle apparently the pilot was trying to clear something, thought he cleared it and started to desend. I dont think to land the thing. Considering it was all debris there was no engine failure. But youre right they will release full and hopefully accurate report soon.

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Scooped! (At least on the video side. Script written in 2012 :-)) *shakes fist vigorously in general direction of Alabama* ;-)

I didn't mean to accuse you. By no means! sorry if I gave the impression. O:-)

Oh I didn't think that's what you were doing. I will say, I'm a bit jealous of Destin actually getting to ride in such a helicopter doing that. Much more fun way of explaining it. :-)

He also has a license to fly this thing.

Is there anything Destin can't do? :-) Mindboggling that NASA hasn't selected him yet for the astronaut program. :-)

You never hear about close calls with helicopters but you see a lot with planes 🤔

Totally agree Riccardo! The guy in the video was trying to use one piece of data to make an overall assumption about whether a helicopter or airplane is safer. The answer is much more complex than just looking at engine failures, like you were saying. Before watching this video, I was researching whether helicopters or airplanes were safer. Turns out, both are extremely safe. Apparently airplanes and helicopters are safer to use for transportation than car travel. Statistically, driving your car through a parking lot is more risky than riding in an airplane or helicopter. When looking at all the data between airplane and helicopter safeness, airplanes are considered safer.

Exactly my thoughts.

"Above a certain altitude" this literally applies to fixed wing aircraft as well, no different

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@@derickrk Planes can glide for surprisingly long though, whilst helicopters can't.

@@derickrk that's true

….and plane.

As both an airplane pilot and helicopter pilot I would take an engine failure in a single engine airplane any dayover one in a single engine helicopter.

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It's been a crazy week. ;-)

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As an airplane pilot and helicopter pilot I would say that most of the stored energy is altitude. In both cases we trade altitude.

@@robertgary3561 I said kinetic energy and altitude is potential energy.

I would say in both cases you’re using altitude to build and maintain speed/rotor. Airplane speed and rotor speed will decay quickly if you don’t trade altitude to maintain it.

Or a high tension cable "poof!" lol

You don't land in the water, you "water" in the water :D

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That's only for single engine helicopters. dual engine helicopters can fly freely over London I believe.

I heard something like that.

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Matchlight then he wont know

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i remember when he had 50k subs on his other channel

That's exactly what I thought! It's early but reports are saying the engine was out.

The pilot died too

@@orcs_blood1793 The pilot was in contact with the tower so it's safe to say he alive and conscious before crash

he was fired, literally

Miura everyone in there died

Too bad, cause it's true

Kobe was pilot error, the pilot thought they were going up when the chopper was falling, and due to the low visibility they crashed into a mountain. There was a report released. Do ur research

maybe it's because it takes place in ww1...

CaptainCrape Maybe it's because you just fell into a troll trap =D

Candi Soda Trolling only works when you get someone really pissed.

Or when you actually think someone was being serious :)

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Nope. Let me explain this quickly. Planes have to glide when crash landing. Meaning they need a long stretch of open and flat ground to land on. Helicopters are far more agile, smaller and they can still move around a lot while descending. They are able to find very small spots to land with little problem. So basically a heli can land on a small street next to your house while a plane would need a very large highway. Plane=large flat area to land and cant maneuver much. Heli= small agile and can land pretty much anywhere. Also one thing I forgot to mention... When crash landing in a plane, you are going much faster then you would be then while flying a heli. That is the main reason it is safer to be in the heli

Ethan Cole but that's why airliners have more than one engine. Plus a lot of small planes can land in 50 feet. The ability to glide gives the plane a chance to reach an airport where rescue is immediate. Also planes are way safer than helicopters. You are way more likely to survive a crash in a plane than a helicopter

Star Excelsior thing is. the helicopter does not need to reach the airport. Yes the plane may have 2 engines, but in the crash landing senario all engines could be dead.

Helicopters can glide, I have heard that some have a better glide slope than fixed wing, the point is a fixed wing must maintain forward air speed in order to touch down safely. A Cessna 150 touches down at about 60 MPH where as a helicopter could touch down at 0 MPH.

I think he means, an aeroplane total engine failure almost always results in a crash landing. A plane can only perform an unpowered landing if there is a suitiable place to land, ie if you are close to a runway. A helicopter engine failure can be easily turned into an unpowered landing as opposed to a crash. Yes plane *crashes* are more survivable than chopper crashes (which have a close to 100% pilot kill rate) but if 100 planes and 100 choppers experience total engine failure at cruising altitude, 99 of the planes but only 1 of the choppers will crash.

Because lots of helicopter does not have a flight computer or capable of auto pilot like planes

Sammy197 I believe that the two rotors are connected somewhat like a car's wheels are, but I'm not completely sure

They're connected. The main rotor, when it's in a state of auto-rotation, provides power to the tail rotor through the transmission system.

Wrong, since the main rotor will be free wheeling then there is no torque forces trying to twist the helicopter about it's axis.

helicopter will start to rotate due to torque that motor produces. that is why you have to shut down motor if rear rotor stops working (it is mentioned in video).

SW6, Semi-wrong. It will rotate the other way, because of the DRAG that the blades have against the air, and especially if there is some gearbox problem where the blades aren't disengaged or the gearbox seizes.

thinking about it already is a thing when your helicopter dies mid-flight if you notice the rotor blades still move when the engine is not working. so surprisingly they put the physic in place for such things to happen. and if you pull up on the yoke when this occurs the helicopter travels further.

I have flew many hours in GTA 5 online in helicopters and planes. I have successfully landed many helicopters by doing the methods stated in the video above. saving myself and my passengers

My helicopter's engine died a few times and I could land safely in the streets.

SquidCookies I preformed the landing methods mentioned in the video successfully and never blew up.

it does i do it all the time

thats why they usually hold onto the collective when they fly helicopters..and msot of the time, there are warnign signs that something is about to go wrong such as alarms going off or a spike in oil pressure/temp or something like that

Austin Wright you cannot always be holding on to the collective. It's unrealistic. You need to note things down for example when ATC gives you a long clearance. Worse, if you're an instructor you're going to have papers to manage and your student won't know how to handle the incident.

Matt Woolford im well aware of that, but most of the time you usually have a co pilot, but engine failures are rare so long as the engine is properly maintained, i would honestly rather be in an helicopter when the engine quits than a plane, since most planes dont glide too well and some really will drop like a rock, sure most plane crashes can be survived but the issue is, finding a place to land..but due to proper maintenance you have no real need to worry about either crashing, and ive seen more people walk away uninjured from helicopter crashes even at low altitudes, though i dont keep track of the stats..

Austin Wright not true at all. Unless you are in an F18 where it takes 20 or so computers to keep it airborne, any commercial jet is designed to be able to fly on one engine even if the performance is reduced. For those with single engines, gliding is often very easy to achieve. Even if a plane was not capable of such a feat as flying in a single engine (which they are), or in the case of dual/quad-engine failure, the pilot would still be able to glide it well. If the pilot was not able to glide it well for whatever reason (which in itself would have to be an achievement) the plane would descend at a fast, but not severe rate of descent, gain lift from the airflow over the wings and actually ascend rather than descend before it loses lift and begins descending again and so on. There is a lot of time for a pilot to react, a pilot can react more safely because even autorotation in a helicopter puts you down 10 times harder than a normal landing where gliding a relatively normal, possibly slightly hard landing would be achieved depending on how well you handle the descent. An amateur would still be able to land it well on flat grass. Planes naturally by build want to fly whilst helicopters force their way into the sky by brute-engine-force. :)

i know how airplanes work while gliding, it isnt too hard but you have alot of drag unless you feather the propeller, and an airliner if it loses an engine on climb, theres a high chance it will struggle to get back to safety due to the weight, but in cruise it isnt as bad, but losing both engines they will be forced to land and there arent too many places for a tubeliner to land, a small cessna possibly, but you have to remember a small hill can be the end of the aircraft as it hits the ground it will slide, the gear are more likely to collapse in a landing and if thats the case, you better hold on..if a 4 engine airliner loses 2 engines she wont have the ability to stay up and will not always have the power to climb, if it loses any more than that it is going down for sure but on a propeller driven aircraft, just pull the rpm lever or flip the switches or press the buttons to feather the props and you will be able to glide decently, but you dont glide that well...so in a way yes you drop out of the sky, you put your nose down and even then if you make one mistake your shit outta luck because you cant gain airspeed without losing altitude

"when training to repel from a helicopter" That is awesome. :-)

Hey I live near there in columbus, in the Benning hill area

Thanks!

Stanced Olympic How about 97K?

Or 104k now

tanker9987 You meant 110k?

Stanced Olympic 115k, ok it'll be 200k before 2017

lol yeah, I don't suppose you do...

@@infasis you'd think they'd put a parachute in the rotors to open so it could.

@@greylynnjr I was thinking the same thing. It doesn't even seem like it would be that hard to engineer or costly for amount of safety it would provide. If we both thought of it surely they did, so I wonder why they don't.

@@infasis listen. Lets say one of us knows why but we are bored and pretend that we dont. Lets imagine we got rich from a design that we developed and made it commercially. Would the world be better?

twn5858 false sense of security you got there

Arjen_hoi nope, large airliners can glide very far without their engines

They can glide far... in a straight line. It's incredibly touchy to do a landing maneuver since the slightest mistake will make you permanently lose control and you'll probably need to land at much higher speeds, which might be enough to overshoot or obliterate the plane even on an otherwise successful landing. Unlike the chopper, the plane will need to maneuver onto a landing strip.

yeah me too, unless you are very low and no place to land. This thing in helicopters only works if it isn't to high.

Anyone here a pilot? It would be nice to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about instead of people who think they know what they are talking about.

So you're hovering at 20 feet and lose tail rotor , you just roll on ? lol or reduce the engine (s) to idle to off load the torque from the ( anti torque rotor ) and use intertial forces of the blades to cushion the landing.. hmm.. You should study those EP's

I enjoyed this video and the one in the link as well. They surly descended very rapidly with it in a neutral state.

When helicopters spin on decent, it's either because the tail rotor has failed, and can no longer provide counter-torque to combat the torque of the main rotor, which can be negated through auto-rotation (I believe), or because the main rotor loses power, and the tail rotor starts spinning the helicopter with the lack of the main rotor's torque. In that case, the power is cut from the tail rotor to stop that from happening, if it's still getting power at all. For all I know, when when the main rotor loses power, the tail rotor does too. Note, I'm not a helicopter pilot, so this is mainly research and speculation, but logic states that helicopters don't just spin spontaneously as they go down.