Heliod vs Niv-Mizzet vs Tymna/Thrasios vs Tymna/Thrasios | CEDH Gameplay 

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That whole sequence was fucked up

Surely someone's playing pox though

Lol

Yes, the Armageddon play was pretty feels bad. I didn’t realize Folger had seven mana available, and honestly, the MLD was an aggressive move that I didn’t need to do. My other blunder was letting Folger hold on to that Carpet of Flowers one turn too long. In regards to why I use the old Heliod over the new one, I find it that the new one is more suited to a Death and Taxes midrange combo build while the old one I can take advantage of the vigilance and enchantment tokens to utilize a Full Stax build with Static Orb, Storage Matrix, etc. RU-vid comment sections suck, so if you have any questions, just @ me on Twitter at ilvaldi. Thanks!

@@Ilvaldi I don't like it because of two reasons. You did a pretty good job of having answers for the whole table but I feel alot of times, theres usually 1 player that isn't as badly hurt and thats definitely how it was for a while with niv-mizzet still executing most of his gameplan. Additionally, the win-cons and routes without the other heliod are too slow. luminarch was cool but even at 8 mana per turn, its still like 4 turn cycles before the whole table is dead. 16 + 32 + 48 < 120, 16+32+48+64 > 120

@@Ilvaldi you have an awesome build and it was fun to watch someone play something different. Kudos!

@@ssnow5516 Sure, but in situations like those, the game plan is to force that 1v1 match up against the player who isn't as crippled. Even then, the Niv player still needed to find a way to deal with Gideon in play. The thought process/philosophy of the deck is to use Stax (whether it be your own or your opponent's) to create game-theory board states where players are interlocked with each other in a gridlock, then methodically cutting each of them off. I'm abusing the fact that everyone is playing combo with parity-breaking Stax pieces, and I'm subverting their own parity breakers against them. This, in a way, is similar to how Death and Taxes would approach the problem in legacy, or old school Sligh decks. While I am dealing with higher life totals, the approach is similar, which is to apply pressure to the board, so that even though the time-to-kill is longer, the rate-to-respond is also lowered. Also, as an addendum, I think new Heliod is great, but this is more of a preference/confidence-in-being-able-to-play with me choosing to play the old Heliod. I think new Heliod is better at utilizing hatebears, and some of the newer cards (particularly Hushbringer with the suped up Torpor Orb effect + auto-lifelink) are perfect fits for the new Heliod. I think White in general is in a good spot to be on the rise with Drannith Magistrate, and we'll see where WotC wants to take it with either Hatebears, Stax enchantments, or more combo pieces.

@@Trainwithseb Thank you!

Rodrick Plum Came here to say the same! Love it.

That's why that is?

Imagine if it baited out a force!

@@apock2474 It was definitely a bait. No doubt there.

This joke was literally in the video

Wow! Thank you very much!

@@MrParagonical that only affects artifacts though?

Yes. Nezahal comes back end of turn. But i don't think it would've changed much... but maybe. Nezahal is a good blocker and scott developed his mana really fast.

Not only is Nezahal a good blocker, it also draws cards wheh others play non-creature spells, like mana rocks.

I immediately noticed this as well, He would've been in a commanding position if he did that. Maybe he REALLY wanted all the cards in his hand? Even so, I think nezahal on the board could've helped more than pretty much anything in his hand after that land wipe and cyclonic rift lol.

I think having a Nezahal would've put him in a really strong position as well, drawing so many cards from the rift reset and eating attackers from Folger as well

Yup talk about miss play

All that and 1 cyclonic rift makes you lose is what they mean by that like this game clearly demonstrated

We use webcams (or phones) to play. We meet up via a video conferencing software and play.

And with 3 blue players, one that was supposed to be control.

RecklessFables MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!!!

It is not a mono artifact and still works when tapped so there is better for that

I’m pretty sure it doesn’t work when tapped. It still got the old school artifact text like winter orb.

They weren't missed, I just assumed they weren't bothering to spell them out because Gideon was preventing damage.

Since it’s in the reminder text and not the card text, it’s legal.

Reminder text doesn't impact color identity.

Wasnt gideon preventing damage?

The hybrid mana in Blind Obedience is part of Extort's reminder(?) text, which means Blind Obedience itself doesn't have a hybrid mana symbol in its text. If it had, you wouldn't be able to play it in mono W

Vasco Barros That is very interesting. Thanks for your response

@@vascobarros24 this is correct on both parts. Reminder text is the correct term.

Hans coria yes, it kind of sucked that Scott forgot his draws. However Gideon was preventing Niv from doing any damage with his ability, though.

Missed triggers. It happens.

@@Ilvaldi Which kind of sucks considering most Niv combos resolve around decking yourself and winning with a card like Oracle or Lab maniac.

Yes they are!

Yes, as long as they say "exile [something] until..." they will return it even if going to exile is replaced with going to another zone, as long as it hasn't left the zone it actually went to. This isn't true with cards that say "exile [something] ... return the exiled card(s)" specifically because the cards are not exiled if they went to a different zone.

Correct. Hand size.

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Ok. Thanks!

One meter is cards in hand. the other meter is life total.

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Ah. They are both really cool and helpful as a viewer. It must take a lot of time to edit those. Also love the effects on the board like the mana crypt triggers.