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@Adj4ni Месяц назад

I respect a “game news channels” that posts the resolution and not only the drama. Hats off.

@NGEvangeliman Месяц назад

I didn't care about using my psn account, it was the fact that it was already working without it, and that it barred people in over a hundred countries who bought the game from playing if they implemented it. so i was more concerned with how it affected others, than myself, who would not be personally affected in anyway.

@ugrena7419 Месяц назад

Agreed. As one of the more popular reviews on steam says; "We dive together or not at all." God I adore this community.

@hell3quin864 Месяц назад

Plus the fact that Arrowhead knew about the requirement all along but didnt communicate it to the community.

@theroyalpain Месяц назад

I mean, isn't it valid? You'd have a game with a greatly shrunken population.

@Narfwak Месяц назад

I think the community managers telling us, the players, to review bomb their own game and refund their own game is one of the craziest things I've ever seen and I don't think that's getting enough credit. That takes a *lot* of confidence in your relationship with the community to know that they'll come back if you can pull it off together.

@GNCD2099 Месяц назад

Spitz lost his cool and I'm betting he got an earful and more than a slap on the wrist.. His gamble did pay off. Crazy bastard.

@vixxito Месяц назад

@@GNCD2099Seems like he's actually out of a job now

@deathsyth8888 Месяц назад

Bullying big corporations work. You just have to hit them where it hurts; in their wallets with refunds and stock prices with negative reviews.

@Gigadux Месяц назад

Literally the only thing they're concerned with. The proverbial balls to be broken

@better-shotgun1686 Месяц назад

⁠@@Gigaduxand we broke those balls good.

@LordLOC Месяц назад

It only worked this time because Helldivers 2 sold way more on PC than PS5 at this point and they knew if they didn't reverse on this one - they'd piss off lots of PC players and probably lose future players. What was the report, the game sold like 70% on PC or something like that? That's crazy as it is.

@OverZaEast Месяц назад

I'm more convinced that it's not because the Bullying. It's because Helldivers 2 is delisted in 177 countries (90% countries in the world) and PlayStation knew Helldivers 2 player base on PC is much much higher than on PS5.

@GreekPfyre Месяц назад

I definitely think Sony was not willing to fork over the money that they would inevitably have to pay in refunds to countries that did not have access to PSN. Plus helldivers 2 is one of the few games as of service titles to actually do good immediately after launch, and the fear of losing more money later on got to them.

@Kevin_850 Месяц назад

Sony owns Bungie, but are just publishers for Arrowhead. They don't have the power to fire anyone or mess with AH's C-Suite like they do with Bungie.

@Ninjachickenfingers Месяц назад

Good for arrowhead

@Sergiblacklist Месяц назад

My reason for joining the boycott & refunds was the rug pull for people who owned the game but would loose Access when the game was pulled. That Is bullshit. They could have given tie in armour or guns to sign up & not make it mandatory.

@jessyvargas5552 Месяц назад

Really good news that Sony backed out of requiring linking psn to helldivers

@Rick586 Месяц назад

I feel like Arrowhead dealing with the PSN mandate was like Arthur Dent trying to deal with his house getting demolished.

@jasonofa3633 Месяц назад

I migrated to the US so this wouldn't affect me much, but my friends in the Philippines would've been fucked with the PSN thing cos they wouldn't be able to legally register in their country. They could use neighboring regions like Singapore, but the Sony's TOS is against falsified info. Even if nobody is getting banned from doing this, Sony still has leverage until the TOS changes or until other countries get PSN support.

@TheJacobG Месяц назад

Another piece here is that some suspect the way Sony proposed to make this change may have violated EU law. And EU fines to giant corporations actually hurt.

@Noxissa Месяц назад

I honestly don't think it was Sony changing their mind (in reference to them saying Sony may have decided to force it after seeing the popularity of the game). I bought the game at launch, and even back then there was a warning pop up telling me if I want access to playing online I HAVE to link a PSN account. None of the wording said it was optional, it was demanded of me. Arrowhead allowed you to keep playing without doing so, but it is clear that Sony wanted to force this shit right from the get go. Now... why they sold the game in countries without PSN despite this is definitely interesting.

@epicninjaz117 Месяц назад

Money

@pse2020 Месяц назад

sony intended to force it from the start. arrowhead CEO asked them to delay it... its not a Conspiracy guys

@revmaillet Месяц назад

once they took off the psn requirement it opened up those countries to sales. From there it snowballed

@plkrtn Месяц назад

@@pse2020So why did they sell it in so many countries PSN wasn't supported in?!

@AbsoluteSkycaptain Месяц назад

@@plkrtn money

@TahoeNevada Месяц назад

"The Boston Steam Party" 😂😂😂 I'm dead

@devsfan1830 Месяц назад

Pretty sure the issue with the Epic store was them actively poaching games that were set to release on Steam to force people to switch to yet ANOTHER launcher/storefront.

@GundamGokuTV Месяц назад

Eh. That was still pretty overblown. People begged, BEGGED, for years for a competitor to Steam. To break up Valve's monopoly on the market. And as soon as someone tried to do that everyone changed their minds overnight. I get the gripe from back then. But people still act like the EGS is the worst thing ever created. When you know they've given us so many free games that I have over 200 games that I didn't pay anything for. Some of which are well received AAA titles.

@Gigadux Месяц назад

They bought a ton of big, timed exclusives. FFVII Remake for one

@ElZamo92 Месяц назад

@@GundamGokuTV Yes, they wanted a competitor that was ON PAR with Steam, not a generic games launcher with a shitty store front attached to it. Edit: lets face it, the EGS is literally just the "Fortnite and Friends Store".

@SkylarktheDragon Месяц назад

@@GundamGokuTV to be fair we also wanted a competitor that was....good. Epic store is trash.

@chillhour6155 Месяц назад

@@GundamGokuTVI'm gonna to make this very clearly for you, EPIC GAMES ISN'T COMPETITION, it's an inconvenient hurdle to the consumer that offers nothing of value except for it being a Fortnite launcher, which in turn is used to play other games

@phodell Месяц назад

I think devs pushing back on stupid corporate and publishing decisions should be the new trend. This also should have been the case for Cyberpunk and a few other games, and the long time it took to re-build goodwill is the result. The fact that Arrowhead stood their ground and knew that this decision was only a detriment to the quality of life of their game helped them pick their battle knowing that it would be overwhelming negative to force "gamers" to make or link an account strictly for the purpose of information harvesting with the underhanded guise of security or safety. I think eventually like Bruce says we will have a PSN or Sony games launcher attached to Sony titles just like Xbox, EA, Ubisoft, Epic, and Activision/Blizzard games. I also think everyone will cave and have them on Steam as it still maintains its monopoly even though it was absolutely hated at first as well. This is just another interesting saga in a corporation trying to see what it could get away with and losing that battle.

@TriopsTrilobite Месяц назад

On the point of games like Cyberpunk and Starfield, I think they release half-baked *because* they come from CDPR and Bethesda, and their success is an assumption, practically guaranteed. Just look at their preorder numbers. Helldivers 2 had to win an audience through its merits as a quality game alone. Being a surprise mega-hit is why Arrowhead has leverage.

@phodell Месяц назад

@@TriopsTrilobite While I semi-agree in regards to Cyberpunk/Starfield the only reason CDPR had many people’s faith was because of an extreme success in Witcher 3, they sold much higher than expectations. BGS is weird, most people I know play them because they like that style RPG, but always have the caveat that everything has to be “fixed” with mods. BGS has really used this as a heavy crutch against making solid polished games, because “modders” will just fix their sloppy work. Cyberpunk specifically had an execs versus dev team mentality on what was realistic and what should have been promised and done at launch versus. But it has again taken years for CDPR to re-build goodwill which is why I thought it fit well with Bruce’s analysis to what Sony Interactive wants to do on PC. I get what you are saying though.

@keres666 Месяц назад

Theres also the "give them an inch" angle. A major point is knocking down Sony and make them think twice before they start wanting to get PC gamers to pay for PS+ to play online... Ther start wanting people to sign up for PSN, and then they start wanting their overlay and then they want their own launcher... next thing you know they want you paying for PS+ on PC to play online.

@GNCD2099 Месяц назад

I hope more people become aware of their tactics. Shit, if you research DLCs and microtransactions, it all started from a $5 horse armor. What's the harm? Right? Now we have horse armors that cost more than a full game.

@adrianperez8728 Месяц назад

So....this channel has been out for 3 years.....and I didn't know it existed? I didn't even know they made their own channel. I was legit just rewatching one of the old videos of Inside Gaming and reminiscing about how good the format(especially the Lawrence talking through laptop bit and the screaming in the beginning of the video by Bruce) was and then saddened that it didn't exist anymore. WTF, I would even occasionally see what Bruce and Lawrence were up to and didn't have any clue this was here this whole time. Subscribed and notified for all future videos. Now I can watch both Internet Today(Machinima ETC) and Inside Games(Inside Gaming) like the gold old days. Now instead of watching while in school now Im watching it while working XD.

@syco579 Месяц назад

Never underestimate the power of pissed off gamers.

@AzureRook Месяц назад

I was sure I linked my PSN and Steam accounts already for something else, but forcing the link on players who can’t create a PSN account was indefensible

@SonicAlpaca Месяц назад

Reminder that Ghost of Tsushima is coming soon to PC. It also has a notice that a 3rd-party account (PSN) will be required to play the online/multiplayer portion of the game.

@omg_RANCORS Месяц назад

I think it made more sense for arrowhead to agree to the Sony deal when helldivers 1 was a small game, but with helldivers 2 being a smash hit, it became suddenly ridiculous to have to have a psn account.

@MrDARKJAK Месяц назад

15:20 i’m not gonna give Sony any credit for how well the battle passes etc came out for the game. 100% think that was Arrowhead going “We are putting it out this way, back off” much like ID Software with Doom and Bethesda

@willmetzler9018 Месяц назад

Literally learned 30 seconds ago from a random Lawrence tweet that the boys are back (apparently since 2021) and I can't believe it. Not sure how I missed this but it feels like christmas

@rheanos8854 Месяц назад

Great coverage! Thank you IG!

@LightningRush007 Месяц назад

Remind your fellow Helldivers to change your Rating for steam. Operation Clean Up is ongoing and will help Arrowhead!

@gamephreak5 Месяц назад

No, don't change your review yet!! The 177 countries Steam delisted Helldivers 2 from have not been reinstated yet! Wait until Sony's honeyed words come to fruition before changing your review. That's what I'm doing! The battle was won, but the war isn't over just yet!

@FoxFlare Месяц назад

@@gamephreak5 And the removal of the banner on the steam page saying "requires 3rd party account linking"

@ryuno2097 Месяц назад

Will Sony enable the sale of the game for the 100+ countries on Steam again?

@FlamingoRadio_ Месяц назад

I am still in love with Lawrence’s strawberry shirt.

@chillhour6155 Месяц назад

A pity his attitude doesn't match it

@Master_WannaBe_ Месяц назад

A win for Democracy!!!!

@inquisitivemind8061 Месяц назад

Democracy could use some wins.

@Zeek0079 Месяц назад

All sony had to do was make a warbound that unlocked if you linked an account.

@fredthewhiteman Месяц назад

The "we've got a Yupnup celebration" got me

@bombomos Месяц назад

Now we just need to have Xbox join the family of Helldivers. Honestly that would keep Sony from trying this crap again

@Geats-IX Месяц назад

The Series S is too weak for Helldiver's.

@justinriley4063 Месяц назад

This weeks story: Sony puts head up ass and pulled it out after 4 days.

@MrElKabano Месяц назад

Making the steam negative review cape a reward for linking PSN account with steam would be the icing on the cake.

@thisisntevenmyfinalform1773 Месяц назад

You forgot about Cole McGrath from Infamous. Remember the redesign?

@JMO04091 Месяц назад

love you crew

@DarkZenith Месяц назад

I am pretty sure it wasn't reversed because of the players review bombing, but I am positive it had to do with Valve starting to give full refunds to anyone who wanted one... imagine 100million disappear overnight... yea.,.. Sony changed it's mind QUICK after that...

@cristianvillalobos7076 Месяц назад

companies putting their shareholder first, and their consumers later....

@nmd68 Месяц назад

Pretty much all companies

@seanonraet8327 Месяц назад

That's how corporations work

@insidegames Месяц назад

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@UpcycleShoesKai Месяц назад

lawl....you need to make this a pinned comment

@morycce Месяц назад

I think sony was scared of a law suit in regards to other countries not having access to psn but were selling/sold the game. I dont think *anyone* knew how widespread that issue was.

@AureumRex Месяц назад

@15:45 is the state of the games industry so bad that news organizations think they have to thank publishers for not ruining the games they're selling at launch? I will not thank sony. I will never thank a publisher for not ruining a game they're publishing and no one should.

@exakelgaming Месяц назад

it's like that knee reflex test but the doctor gets kicked in the nuts.

@NionAeon Месяц назад

It’s a win win for Sony, by letting gamers feel they’ve won lol. They got all the sign ups they needed to artificially inflate their PSN sign ups, and also gave the community the feeling that their voices are being heard 😂 To me, I’m sceptical that this win is really a win, for the people who had issues with it. Time will tell..

@Call555JackChop Месяц назад

And of course all the grifters are patting themselves on the back for doing absolutely nothing but taking credit for the reversal

@Lemiwinks55 Месяц назад

The only reason Sony didn't push for more monetization on release is because they didn't expect it to blow up.

@KillianC1C2 Месяц назад

It's really awesome Arrowhead was able to work with the community to let them know how to voice their displeasure. Sony kinda has always wanted to seem like the good guy so they'll usually bend over backwards to do whatever they can possibly do if the voices are loud enough. That being said, I think all this happening probably means we might sadly never get a Helldivers 3 or if we do Sony won't work with Arrowhead.

@spyder4578 Месяц назад

It was there at launch. It was just disabled quickly since it was causing multiplayer connection/server errors. He admitted fault for disabling it not addressing it since.

@noahkamakeeaina5454 Месяц назад

guys im being 1000% honest can we do the same thing to ea because i have soo many games on steam that need ea launcher and that shit sucks i would love to have just one game launcher

@omg_RANCORS Месяц назад

Steam already has an overlay with my friends listed. Why the fuck would any one want a PlayStation overlay? It seems like Sony doesn’t understand that PC players want the games they produce, not Sony.

@kevinkorenke3569 Месяц назад

If you really want to learn what makes PC gamers happy, make a good game. Sell the good game. Let me enjoy the good game without trying to monetize my continued experience in the game.

@MrCacitti Месяц назад

Boston Steam Party is probably the best joke ive heard this year

@robracer97 Месяц назад

8:34 What do you mean "Epic had the gall to launch a new store and give away free games?" That's not what happened at all. Their initial strategy was to pay already finished games to not launch on Steam, including Metro Exodus which had to refund Steam preorders. The free games came later when they realized this strategy of throwing Fortnite money around to force users to use their laggy, featureless store was terrible. Players saw it as an insult because they had to use a worse quality launcher for absolutely no trade off. Instead of competing with Steam by making a better product they were just buying their way into the market. No one liked seeing a rich corporation inconvenience them just so the rich corporation could make more money. Those games would have come to Steam if not for Epic.

@insidegames Месяц назад

Thanks for proving my point! - L

@robracer97 Месяц назад

@@insidegames No, you're being dishonest.

@jamesstinedurf9841 Месяц назад

if it were most other companies they wouldn't have walked this back. Sony has a history of walking things back when their players get upset. the did a similar thing with the PS3 store

@chillhour6155 Месяц назад

Is that why the store is still shit that crashes all the time and that it has a zero tolerance refund policy ?

@plkrtn Месяц назад

The issue was Sony selling Helldivers 2 to 239 territories, then 4 months later telling 170+ of them that they can't use it anymore, despite legitimately purchasing it because the publisher released it there.

@CamStorm_ Месяц назад

The Boston Steam Party is a fantastic joke. Can I get that on a T-shirt? Charlotte kills it again.

@PCRyder Месяц назад

This goes much deeper than what's even mentioned in this video. These anti-consumer practices have been happening in the gaming industry forever and this was simply a straw that broke the camels back situation. The major difference here was this was a game people didn't want to stop playing, one worth in a manner of speaking, fighting for. So they did.

@LePedant Месяц назад

Wonder how many review bombers are gonna update their review?

@Shiggstream Месяц назад

So, just this last week I finished Horizon Forbidden West on PC. While debating whether or not to start a new game on the main menu, I noticed that I had not linked my PSN account, once I did I recieved a couple cosmetic items. Why the fuck would a game they published require a PSN account when their own first party ports don't?

@DAZzler3K Месяц назад

Both Sony and Arrowhead knew that PSN would be mandatory 6 month *before* launch! The game was delisted on the 4th of May 2024! (nearly three months *after* lauch!) There are two simple but very important questions left unanswered: 1. Why was that game sold to people who reside in a country where PSN isn't even available?! 2. Why weren't these countries delisted right before lauch nearly three month ago?! Something doesn't add up here!

@1000Gamernerd Месяц назад

I was just mad that people who are in countries that can't get psn were getting their game bricked by this.

@VideoMeltdown Месяц назад

Can Charlotte get some kind of price or award for the phrase 'Boston Steam Party', I really like that one.

@zakaria4988 Месяц назад

As a fellow Moroccan ngl I had some of my friends are getting banned from PSN the moment when you buy a 600$-800$ PS5 and connect to it, specially when the majority of us are registred as French or US account

@brianufford2934 Месяц назад

Love this channel

@Tomax_Bren Месяц назад

I was going to get Ghost of Tsushima but after this, I'm good. If I'm really interested, I'll just watch Bruce or Lawrence play it.

@SkylarktheDragon Месяц назад

My favorite Helldivers 2 negative review meme was the steam review graph with a super destroyer and drop pods at the bottom of the huge red bars

@XnaugahydeX Месяц назад

very surprising to me that psn is not available in countries like Egypt

@hunterking6033 Месяц назад

We need to remember, devs choose to take publisher money. The devs are really quick to put on the shackles of publisher oversight when it means larger cash flow. That's not a condemnation, it's just how business works. If we want devs to have full autonomy, we need to fund them ourselves. We complain about games being $70, $90,, and $120 depending on the edition, but without a lot of these publishers, they'd likely cost us more. Seriously, would Helldivers 2 be $50 and this good if Sony didn't bankroll it? I highly doubt it. If it were crowdfunded, how much would the average donor need to pay to create this game in the smount of dev time, and how many donors would it take? Could a game of this style and quality even be crowd-funded? I'm not one to give publishers the benefit of the doubt, but I don't think most of us are willing to actually sacrifice the benefits we get as consumers from the current investment model. If we were, we wouldn't be dealing with EULAs, invasive DRMs, the infuriating stagnation of franchises we love, and other gripes we all have. We rarely put our money where our mouth is.

@SocietyOfDecency Месяц назад

Didn’t see the big deal until people explained that other countries can’t even get PsN. Countries that have already purchased and been playing the game. This is a W

@guardiantko3220 Месяц назад

It wasnt changed in the last few months, playstation/sony changes the FAQ THE NIGHT of may 3rd. So it was 100%optional in the minds of majority of the player base, no one said "grace period" anywhere as far as i am aware. This move of sony, to me, has made me make the choice to NEVER engage with their products again. Ever.

@GlassDoorGuy Месяц назад

I think we kind of overstate the importance of those negative reviews and such. They were important, but let's not forget that Steam started to give refunds regardless of the time played. I think that had HUGE impact on Sony's decision.

@drakassociate9833 Месяц назад

cool blood born pc when!?

@kdog3908 Месяц назад

I don't think it'd have been such a problem if they'd **clearly** (critical term) communicated that the waiving of the PSN sign up was temporary. If everyone had known from the get go that this was going to be needed then people could've acted accordingly. What we got was a 'skip' button....and that's it. No warnings or caveats about it still needing to be done at some point in the future. Personally, if i'd have had that clearly stated at the start, I would have refunded minutes after i'd bought it back in February.

@lxfenix Месяц назад

Sad thing is that this will only make Sony more proactive in taking control over games. This won't stop developers from getting in bed with Sony and signing exclusivity deals.

@B_Slims Месяц назад

Off topic, but I totally want to buy the strawberry shirt that Lawrence has... tried looking it up but couldn't find it. If any one can help link where to get it, id be so grateful!

@shdw787 Месяц назад

My low-stakes conspiracy is that Sony didn't realize how many countries didn't have access to PSN.

@weavelcow9596 Месяц назад

I feel like most people involved didn't. I mean the company should, but I don't think anyone stopped to ask.

@make_some_noise Месяц назад

They somehow forgot, despite me and countless others paying (previously anyway for me, not using it at the moment) for PS plus for online play with my account region in Singapore because they can't be assed to make the Philippines a region in PSN.

@zaidabraham7310 Месяц назад

It is a bit more complicated than that. The unsupported countries can still access PSN, they just have to choose a different region when creating their PSN accounts. But this is technically against PlayStation's Terms of Service. It goes mostly unenforced (I think except for places with really strict internet rules like China) and a lot of these unsupported regions still have active PlayStation communities because of this though. However I think communicating the nuances of their region-locking and Terms of Service amidst all the heat would have been way too complicated so they just backed down.

@chillhour6155 Месяц назад

They have all the analytics they need don't you worry

@PolygonAlley Месяц назад

"we regret sending pc nerds our really great games" - PlayStation HQ

@mikeironsights Месяц назад

Helldivers dive together or we don't dive at all

@TheThenewdiabolic Месяц назад

I don't think this is over. The second the money starts to decline from the game, Sony may very likely come back and force this issue again in the future. These massive companies are not our friends and are looking to sell every bit of our data to literally anyone willing to pay for it.

@nicemarmot3681 Месяц назад

Is Charlotte and Lawrence fellow mutant and Last Drive In enjoyers?!

@mattylisa5116 Месяц назад

Bling blong!

@unseentruth532 Месяц назад

Now Sony is requiring psn account for ghost of tsushima for online.

@birdroll Месяц назад

The only reason it actually hurt them (and why it was reversed) is because of the mass refunds, which under the circumstances, steam deemed them all valid. not only do they lose the money that you paid to buy the game, they took a massive loss in chargeback fees too.

@JoshHenderson16 Месяц назад

People are kind of sick of having companies change the script on them and just having to suck it up. The 'technical difficulties' excuse for not having the requirement at launch just doesn't pass the litmus test.

@foomp Месяц назад

I'm one of those people that largely doesn't cave in to doing something I view as a hassle. Everything minor that's attached to it (e.g. Sony's bad security, Epic's bad standing, etc) only allows me to further dig my toes in the sand. I refuse to use Epic's storefront because I have enough launchers and apps to contend with. I have a PSN account, but I don't feel like going through the seconds needed to tie the account to anything... doesn't help I never remember the password. I just HATE doing this crap. It's annoyed me since the LA Noire days and that annoyance just grew all these years. Whenever I have Game Pass active, I actively refuse to use EA Play to play the games that I have access to there. I refuse to play Mass Effect Legendary edition because it requires an EA account (which I think I might have, but I don't care to use again). That's not to say I am against launchers in general, but I need to have enough leeway for the devs/company to get me to do it within the gaming space. Warframe is a great example of that. It flows smoothly, devs are cool, and it's an account directly involving the devs. I even deal with Playonline whenever I play FFXI, for crying out loud.

@AlmostAl Месяц назад

Have the non PSN regions got Helldivers 2 back on Steam yet?

@jiro4559 Месяц назад

It's just another thing that media made a much bigger problem than it actually is, without really understanding why things like this exist and just call it corporate greed. Rockstar launcher, Bethesda launcher, 2K launcher, EA, Ubisoft, Epic, Blizzard, even CDPRed.... etc... no one cares, but suddenly Sony... oh man.

@teilanittv Месяц назад

Consumers beat Sony. Its our victory, not Helldivers and certainly not their lying as devs.

@patrickwilkerson1728 Месяц назад

Sony will do like EA and Activision temporary holding back for some time and try again or go for some sort of compromise.

@yetanotheraccount3361 Месяц назад

Know your place Sony. *Caesar Millan hiss*

@jaywaggz Месяц назад

Oh....I thought a boston steam party meant something else ....

@austin62halo Месяц назад

But what about the countries that are now delisted?

@thedeceptivekhan Месяц назад

Account linking should be Optional and incentivized with Positive Reinforcement.

@ItsInkyPaws Месяц назад

Oh wow. I didn't expect to be in an inside games video. That's pretty neat! And we can be stronger than any corporation and I stand by that. Corporations need money, and we're the money. It's just really hard to fight them because..well, they're big enough to not need money lol

@MrMustard495 Месяц назад

It may be nothing, but a lot of people are reporting that xbox games on the steam deck are now failing to login. I've experienced this myself with sea of thieves on the steam deck and on my linux machine. I'm ready to put my foil hat on and believe that microsoft is trying to block valve from getting traction. Is it time for Gabe's Army, I mean PC gamers, to turn their momentum on Microsoft?

@GNCD2099 Месяц назад

I play HD2 in a PSN restricted country. My plan, after hearing the news, was to just play until I got blocked. I already got 100 hours into the game so it's no biggie. Then I found out that the game wasn't supposed to be sold in my region because it does not have PSN. I felt I got rug pulled. Started spamming refund requests and lo and behold, Snoy backtracked the day after. What a shit show. Also, I wouldn't make a PSN account even if I could. I play on Steam. Not on PS.

@AnthonyBets Месяц назад

Boston Steam Party 🤣🤣🤣

@doomguy2000 Месяц назад

Did they issue any statement about people who bought the game in regions without PSN?

@dutchsurvival9761 Месяц назад

Arrowhead knew (6 months ago before the game released) there was a psn requirement. It’s in the contract!! But give Sony some credit, they have listned to the fans, they could have sayed, no…..f*ck-off!

@Gummypuss Месяц назад

It's probably because they'd have to refund nearly a third of the people who bought it cause they couldn't play it. Of course they changed their mind.

@rednave4489 Месяц назад

its funny some one planning the doing same thing to bloodborne!

@guyo83 Месяц назад

Sony's lesson here is just that they'll make sure to make PC gamers are told to sign up the same the the game is launched, they won't back down from pc linking with PSN. We didn't win, we just delayed the inevitable.