Oh many can they just don’t. Blast beat is silly though. I can’t stand blast beat, it’s so overdone in some bands. It’s hard to do I’m sure, but it sounds stupid when you hear it over and over and everyone else is doing it too. Boring.
Stanier tuned it very high and extremely tight to cut through the dense layers of guitar. Those kevlar heads helped too. His snare tuning when Helmet first started was fairly standard.
@@redghettosun Yes used a similar technique on Owner of a Lonely Heart, although it was against the wishes of the drummer (Alan White). Apparently the producer (Trevor Horn) had snuck in and re-tuned the snare on him while he was away so it fit in the track better.
Hell yeah...I was in Florida though, so TOOL was my first/best concert. Probably 92-93, the EDGE in Orlando. I had 2 helmet tapes already though I think. Good memories....Wish I could go back.
Remember in the 90s when you could still wear your typical street/house clothes and still listen to hard rock. No labels attached. The sleeper rockers.
They are, and this is one of the coolest tracks in all of hard rock, and I thought so every decade since then, spanning FOUR SEPARATE DECADES. So clean, so hard, so devoid of bullshit. The fact that this song is nearly 30 years old is crazy.
I'm really glad that some lost classics like "Betty" and Failure's "Fantastic Planet" are getting rediscovered right now. That era was just thick with great, heavy releases and it's like only now are people catching up. Hopefully Hum's "Downward is Heavenward" is next on the docket.
+krashkow you just made a Hum, Failure, Helmet combo there...if you added some Deftones, Tool, and RATM, you would be my best friend from 7th grade on haha
Indeed, I think we'd get along just peachy. While I didn't really get into Deftones or Tool until I was a bit older (like college), Rage was my thing from Day 1. Back in 7th grade (93-94 for me) my best friend and I got the DJ at our school dance to play "Freedom" and we started a mosh pit. One of my best memories, bar none, from that time.
Is Helmet “grunge,” though? More importantly: Does it matter? They’re a Great Band, either way, and one that Absolutely Rocks and tears it all up every time. Cheers!
I wish I could click LIKE 100 times for this comment LOL Paige Hamilton has a friggin' PhD in jazz guitar, his solos could be masterpieces but he's always leaned towards noise
John Stainer ... Righteous drummer who has a classic style. I love his break, almost like an accent as he is a Master on the skins!! What's so punk rock,(imop!) is how Paige Hamilton, John Stainer + all the members are on POINT big time.
The 90’s had the best heavy music. All the best heavy bands now started in the 80’s and 90’s. There are a number of great ones now though I’m not pooping in them. But the 80’s and 90’s is when everyone started to go heavy. And even though I don’t listen to Black Sabbath, they started it in the 70’s along with a few other bands. MC5 comes to mind as well.
Okay, I will share a loved memory of mine. I was about 13 and my dad had just gotten out of prison. He bought an old 70s all black Ford Bronco and put 4 15 inch speakers in the rear and smaller mids and tweets throughout. Rockford Fosgate throughout. So, here we were rolling around Seattle and the first song I heard was from Helmet, I believe it was the strap it on album. That was also the first Album my dad gave me when he got out, that and a set of Koss headphones with a Koss tape player. Some nights I would fall asleep listening to the album. Thanks for being part of my memories Helmet. It just would not have been the same without you.
@@fackumon292 IMO, Around the Fur is one of the greatest sounding albums ever. Terry Date absolutely mastered his craft on that album, every instrument sounds fantastic. I read a interview with stephen carpenter & he knew very little about his sound or setup, it was very disappointing...& Stephen the earth is NOT flat.
I was on so much acid during my Helmet days. I mainly listened to Carcass, Entombed, Death, Obituary, Morbid Angel, and Helmet always made a way in the mix.
@@mtc8335 How does that make sense? It's not like I'm critiquing any of them by comparing them to myself lol. This snare is horrendous, Helmet however are not ;).
And could make a living out of it. Streaming is fine and all but only the few get rich. When it was still CD's you stood a chance of actually being a professional musician
I went to the 2015 ‘Betty 20th reunion show where they played Betty in order in its entirety. It was a very small venue. They came on stage, plugged in and hit that first riff and almost blew the doors off. Helmet can move some serious air! Can’t wait to see the ‘30 year’ tour next month.
Helmet owns. Most of the bands that came out since Helmet have been influenced by them. Some have admitted it, others haven't. Cheers to one of the most underrated bands ever.
For all you youngins out there - you can't really classify this as grunge - this was NYC Hardcore - been there did that - separate scene - different from the Seattle at the time - also check out Unsane, Surgery and Chrome Locust, among others for early 90's NYC hardcore - sounds actually varied by region then due to a lack of internet and stuff was still printed on vinyl and played on jukeboxes
Rene Harde I don't think whole grunge thing is about Seattle.STP is from San Diego.Grunge is alt rock,I don't see something distinct in Grunge genre.I would consider Helmet,Smashing Pumpkins,Blind Melon or Sonic Youth as a Grunge band in this case.
This is one of the coolest tracks in all of hard rock, and I thought so every decade since then, spanning FOUR SEPARATE DECADES. So clean, so crisp, so hard, so devoid of bullshit. The fact this song is nearly 30 years old is crazy.
Betty is the literally THE VERY BEST album EVER. I dare anyone to find a better album than Betty. Kudos to Helmet for making this sick, sick, album and still relatively unknown work of art. I get chills. That's when you know it's good music. You get the chills. Still a regular 30 years later. All albums should be compared to this as the gold standard. Here's a small list of some of the albums that Betty beat out (IMO) to earn the "Jeff G all time best album". Take it as a big fucking compliment to Helmet (much deserved). Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti Metallica - Master of Puppets Jimi Hendrix - Smash Hits Yothu Yindi - Tribal Voice PJ Harvey - Rid of Me The Sugarcubes - Here today, tomorrow next week Jose Feliciano y Amigos Peter Tosh - Mama Africa Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath Alice in Chains - Dirt David Byrne - Rei Momo Johnny Cash: American IV: The Man Comes Around Sylvia Telles - The voice I love Soundgarden - SuperUnknown Roots Radics - Forward Ever, Backwards Never The Cranberries - Everybody else is doing it, so why can't we Beck - Guero Bad Religion - Against the grain Pennywise - self titled Bad Brains - Quickness Concrete Blonde - Free Ziggy Marley - Tomorrow People (hahaha - wtf do I always call it that - it's like a thing with this album - Conscious Party (say it again, write it down this time)) Pantera - Far Beyond Driven ( a 9 on the Betty scale, and Betty's one of those long tail scales. you know most shits in the middle.) All sick albums start to finish, but Betty climbs to the top. It MUST BE listened to loud. Funny thing is it seems that Meantime got all the radio attention. It was pretty good and all. But it was like a 6 on the Betty scale. Update: I was thinking of original post and why I bothered. It came to me quick. More than anything, it's a big thank you to Helmet for creating this piece of gold. It has definitely helped me in my life. big time. many many times. that's how good betty is. Here are a few more albums you beat out so you know the relevance of the compliment cause I definitely consider myself a music lover. Black Uhuru - Guess Who's Coming to Dinner Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath White Zombie - Astro-Creep 2000 Bob Marley and the Wailers - Babylon By Bus Black Sabbath - Master of Reality Isley Brothers - Winner take all (Winner takes all - you take your pick) Gorillaz - Demon Days Wailing Souls - Fire House Rock Half Pint - Greetings A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory Widespread Panic - Space Wrangler Widespread Panic - Aint Life Grand Moby - Everything is wrong John Parish and PJ Harvey - Dance Hall at Louse Point Peter Tosh - Wanted Dread & Alive Santana - Caravanserai Bob Marley & the Wailers - Uprising Jimi Hendrix - Kiss the Sky Led Zeppelin II Dead Kennedy's - In God We Trust, Inc The Doors - Waiting for the Sun Talking Heads - Speaking in Tongues Joe Satriani - Surfing with the Alien The SugarCubes - Stick Around For Joy PJ Harvey - Uh Huh Her Another tremendous set of albums that are amazing the whole way through - None beats Betty tho. If I was to write an article on Betty, the first word that would come to mind would be "Gripping". Once you turn Betty on, and turn it up, it has you. It has you. And you're good with that cause it's like a blanket to your soul. It's a rock to lean on when needed. And anyone who doesn't recognize any albums on this list, they are all gold. just pick one you haven't heard and go for it. This album list is (obviously) open source. Anyone can feel free to use it in any way if desired - just don't forget to include Betty on the list cause it's not actually in these lists since those are albums it beat out. Update: You knew it was coming. A few more albums Betty had to beat to get the top spot: 311 - Music Leftfield - Leftism Grateful Dead - Mars Hotel Polvo - Celebrate the New Dark Ages (better than you think) And why are some totally amazing albums left off. Over the top songs. Too many bands wreck albums with over the top songs. Looking at you Pepper, Dead Kennedy's, Prodigy. Update: Thought of a few more you had to get past including some techno (none beat Betty yet): Phish - Billy Breathes Therapy - Nurse Juan Atkins - Magic tracks deep detroit volume two (dj comp) Juan Atkins - Wax Trax! MasterMix - Volume 1 (dp comp) Ultimate Reggae - 20 classic reggae riddims (comp) Keoke - all mixed up (dj comp) The Orb - UF Orb The Chemical Brothers - Dig your own hole XMix - Issue Twenty One - 1994 (dj only comp) Josh Wink - United DJs of America - Volume 3 Kickin Mental Detergent Dave Matthews - Crash Bad Brains - Rise Ustad Sultan Khan - Sarangi - The music of india The Untouchables - Wild Child (ska) Long Beach Dub Allstars - Right Back Juan Atkins - Legends - Volume 1 Bruddah IZ - Alone in IZ World Josh Wink - Profound Sounds Vol 1 There are plenty of other 5 star albums out there, but this is a kickass list of albums and comps you beat out. These are all 5 star albums, but not 10s on the betty scale. Betty is really the only 10 on the betty scale. Only 5 star albums are even included to be compared. Untouchables - WildChild and Chemical Brothers - Dig your own hole are the only albums on this list that have a few songs I don't really like but still gave the album 5 star because they are so damn good at parts. Widespread Panic - Til the Medicine Takes (you knew it was comin' ...) Okay, I have it down, I think: Top 5 albums of all time, in order: 1) Helmet - Betty 2) Metallica - Master of Puppets 3) Pantera - Far Beyond Driven 4) Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti 5) Santana - Caravanserai Somebody out there's probably reading this shit, even if it's just the cops! --- OK, we're continuing through to a top 10 6) David Byrne - Rei Momo 7) Concrete Blonde - Free 8) PJ Harvey - Uh Huh Her 9) Yothu Yindi - Tribal Voice 10) Pennywise (self titled album) - someone's reading this shit, I know it to be true. Update: Rei Momo moved a notch up after another recent listen. Sorry Peej, it's that good. It's that damn good. OK, it's all locked in at this point. Jeff G all-time top 10 album list. Now, time to lock in "La Crema" - all albums above plus the following 3: Citizen Fish - Flinch Widespread Panic - Everyday PJ Harvey - Dry Helmet - Strap It On OK, if I post here again, you can stab me. There are tons of 5 star albums not on "La Crema". This is just shit I like. I only got 1 like on this post, lol I guess I got a beating coming ... Had to comment to replace Beastie Boys as they drop the n-bomb a few times, and that excluded it - for certain. I'm replacing with: Jimmy Cliff - The Ultimate Collection (I know, I know - a comp? -- yeah, a comp - it's good all the way through) I'm gonna have to take a flogging I guess ... Back for the update (of the top 10 list). I personally believe Concrete Blonde's Free is the best female album ever made. It's just phenomenal. It had to be on top 10. And another for the greatest album list while I'm here (sneaking it in). Sandy Denny - Rendezvous - tho she has many other great ones too I guess I'm in for some beatings ... A few that just had to be on this list Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy Peter Tosh - Equal Rights Peter Tosh - No Nuclear War And the top 10 got updated again. It's a legend of a list, you must admit Oh, who am I kidding, I can't stop this list ... Flog me if you want The Sundays - Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic Edie Brickell & New Bohmeians - Shooting Rubberbands at the Stars Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks (too epic to leave off - all the way through). TSOL - Revenge - how could I leave it off Jane's Addiction - Nothing's shocking
@@snufftherooster93 - only because nobody listens to helmet anymore. Not that many ever found this album. Reminds me, I still needed to add to the list. left off TSOL - Revenge, and Jane's Addition Nothing's Shocking.
@@snufftherooster93 - that's because there was so much good music put out in the 70's, 80's, and 90's. Even though the good music stopped (mostly) at the 90s - with a few good bands putting out a few good songs afterwards, and a few rare musicians that were all about the love of the making the music still put out quality, but 90% of the good music ended.
That snare... That riff... That solo... Oh my. It could bring God's to their knees. Brutal! It's a goddamn brutal, face-melter, I tell you! I could listen to that riff and solo until the end of time. A completely unstoppable force without question.
Ebola Jenkins I mean you can say what you’d like but if you search up what genre helmet is what comes up is alternative metal, post hardcore and noise rock
Тетя 38 лет. Открыла для себя эту группу недавно. Потому что когда они были на гребне, я была маленькой и не слышала о них. Не было интернета и все такое. Рок 90-х самый лучший! ❤🇰🇿🇰🇿
Aw man....this song means so much to me. It was one of the first Helmet songs I heard, and those lyrics and instruments really stuck with me as a new kid in high school. Just saw Helmet last night and this was such a fucking awesome song to enjoy....their still killing it years later..
I remember getting a head butt to the face during their show just before this album was released. There was no way out that pit so I stayed bloody nose and all. The 90’s baby!
I think I spun this album and 'Meantime' literally about eighty times back in the day. Two cassettes got chewed and the neighbors moved out. $$$ well spent.
