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Ngl I’m struggling a bit with the bounty dilemma. Yeah sure it would be a nice gesture for her to split it with you but it shouldn’t be an expectation?! I understand that she earned the money by referring you but it’s still money she’s earned. To me there’s no dilemma here, and the fact she didn’t initially tell you is a clear sign she doesn’t want to share it and yeah that’s a bit of a shame but if I was in your position I wouldn’t judge that choice. Esp when it comes to money I think it would be incredibly inappropriate to ask her to split it and put that on her when she’s clearly avoided talking about it with you.
Exactly, new girl can also refer another friend and she could get 8k. This is the original employee’s bonus. Plus, that money will get taxed to high heaven as it is a BONUS.
@@Plooky1969 If you are new to a company they are unlikely to ask you for a referral. Thought it was kinda funny how S&C suggested that she just referred someone to get 8k with the whole asos analogy lol if only it was that easy. The friend made 8k probably because she’s built a trusting relationship with the company over a long period of time but as a new employee she’s got to work her way up the corporate ladder first before making referrals let alone getting a bonus
very well said, I don't think it should be an expectation for her to even share the bounty money with the friend as she's done her bit by referring her friend for the position and she loves the job which is a win for her, and it is great because getting your foot in a job sometimes is the hardest part so I would be grateful for the friend regardless of the bounty money she gets, I mean personally I probably would've mention that I would get a bonus for the referral so everything is out in the open but in no way would I think its her responsibility to split the money with me although it would be a very kind gesture for her to do so .
I agree that the friend is not entitled to the money. The 8k is for the person who referred. However, in my company we also have a similar practice. One of my coworkers was referred and they split the money. I also know a lot of other people where the money was split. It is very commonly done where I work. I would expect friends to split. Her friend was a bit secretive and although I wouldn’t ask for the money at this stage, it would make me think of my friend differently.
To expect a referral fee to be shared with the person you refer is wild 😭 it’s cheeky to ask, it’s not cheeky to not share the information, as it’s completely irrelevant to the friend she helped hire
Bounty scenario - the girl wanted the job regardless of her friend getting £8000!! No one knew about the 8 grand apart from her friend, and the girl still worked really hard during her probation because she obviously likes and wanted to do well in the job. She didn’t work hard throughout that time knowing there was 8 grand at the end of it. So why does it matter now? The girl could have applied for that job in that office without the referral from her best friend and still might have worked just as hard to pass her probation, again without knowing about the 8 grand. I think it’s because she’s your friend, that your a bit bummed that in a sense, you were probably an easier referral than a stranger, and to her it was a confirmed 8 grand for her because she knows how hard you work. And if she could guarantee 8 grand at the end of 4 months, from a hard worker, that wants to do well… it would be you. I wouldn’t ask for any money as it is hers. I would try imagine yourself in her shoes if she asked you to split it when it is your referral fee and see if you’d like to give up 8 grand, especially when you did all this hard work not even knowing there was 8 grand on the table xxx
In corporate America referral bonuses are common. It’s typically a known thing . Anyone that refers someone, and they get the job and are at the company for at a certain amount of time will receive the money. This money is never meant to be awarded to the person hired and I don’t think there a need to disclose that to someone. I get that it’s a friend so it would be nice to know but the friend isn’t entitled to any of that money.
usually a silent listener here, but in regards to the bounty dilemma… i think it’s a bit cheeky to ask for a share. the money was a REFERRAL REWARD, in all fairness, the friend made the referral without her help and was rewarded as such. if the company thought it suitable to share the reward, they would have. just my opinion 💕
The bounty money is very straightforward. The friend that got referred already got paid by getting employed. The friend that referred is the sole owner of the money. She also doesn’t owe her friend information about the bounty money. She could’ve easily referred someone else and still get her 8k. Also, passing your probation period is what every good employee should aspire to get to, with or without any bonuses. I think all the family and friends of the writer are entitled. The money is solely for the referrals
In most european countries referral money is not at all making money of someone else, it’s your work and I never heard of someone splitting it, it really doesn’t work like that. Thinking someone wants half of it would be considered very inappropriate in my country.
Re the referral fee, that's very common at companies (i'm a HR girlie) and you don't share it as that's a benefit for referring someone in successfully.. that being said some new starters if they're hard to recruit to areas, can be entitled to a 'Golden Hello' if they pass probation and stay with the company 1 year but that's at the discretion of the company!
Bounty- OP is not entitled to that money. In fact, depending on where they live, the other girl will be taxed on that money as well. I mean, as a friend I think it would be a kind gesture if she gets her a small gift, maybe do a night out but it shouldn’t be expected. I think the convo should be dropped 🤷🏻♀️
I feel like the bf pressured the girl into reading her journal but then held a different standard for himself by not letting her read the red journal! It’s not fair
I know it’s a HUGE difference but I got my bestie a job at my company and got £500. She never once made me feel like I had to share it and I made it clear from the beginning it would be mine. No issue at all. I get their POV but money is such a hard topic
If the referral fee was intended to be halved, the arrangement would be for both parties to get a sum of money. The whole point in a referral fee is to reward an existing employee for helping to recruit a valuable member of staff. It also encourages people to recommend people who show promise, and are likely to pass the probationary period, rather than just their best mate. You wouldn’t refer someone you didn’t know! So in most cases I’d assume people are friends. If OP is expecting a sum of money, I’d suggest they have a think about those around them who would be good at the job and submit their own referral! I think if the shoe was on the other foot, they’d be unlikely to share the money too 💗
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The second scenario, the impersonating cracked me up🤣 Also sarah said she has got to know the owner, maybe she could ask them if the guy is single etc?
The person asking about the bounty money is wrong to ask the girl who referred her for the job. It is hers and to put her in a weird position because you just heard about it is wrong. Over 8k.. You've earned more than that and love your job, don't ruin your friendship by making them uncomfortable. People don't refer others solely for the money especially if it takes 4 months to receive it.
And the girl saying she worked really hard to make it past her probation period, but you would of had to do that anyway if you wanted your job. Leave the friend out of it
If my friend went behind my back and read MY MAN'S journal, brought it up to me that she did, then refused to tell me what she read (even though it was clearly overwhelmingly positive) I'd be fuming. That's such a violation and I hope the girl in the dilemma made her feelings clear, so her friend doesn't do something stupid like that again. It also feels like the journal topic is being brought up constantly like some sort of test to the girl's honesty and openness in the relationship, which I don't think is very fair. I'd be setting a clear boundary that it's not something to be discussed anymore because it's so obsessed over within the relationship. Think of it as someone always pressing you about your therapy sessions, not everyone (in fact, rarely anyone) openly discusses the ins-and-outs of their therapy sessions with friends or boyfriends because it's a private journey - treat the journal the same.
On the notebook story I think it’s very different she’s saying she has journaled her thoughts and opinions where as she just read a pros and cons list about her that’s very different to writing something about ur day and feelings
Guys as a French teacher I am screaming at the two of you dropping the French words into the full English sentence in a French sentence Mon dieu hahhahahahhaa
When it comes to asking someone out I always just say hey I was wondering if you’re single? if so would you like to blah blah blah whatever. If not sorry don’t even worry about it and move on :)
Nah the bounty girl doesn't need to send the money If the writer refers someone at some point she will get it aswell it seems clear to me also slightly greedy from the writer in my opinion
If the bounty girl reads this you're not entitled to the money at all and I'm shocked you'd think so- you got a job out of it and your friend got a bonus that's how it works she referred someone and as per company policy was rewarded for it and the money was given directly to her- why would you get the money? You got a job that's what you get out of it, she already has a job and has been given a bonus for helping the company hire a new employee If it was meant to be split you'd both be given the money equally by the company- deffo do not bring this up as you're not entitled to it at all and if my friend did this I'd think it was soooo weird, the employee who asked what you're going to do with the money got it wrong
Depends on the company culture. It’s very common to split it where I work. Two girls on my team split it. I don’t think it’s “so weird” at all. If I was to refer someone, I would split it.
At my company it’s not how it works and I imagine it’s the same here- if it was meant to be split the company would’ve said something to her directly when she was hired/sent them both the money Even if some people do split she deffo shouldn’t ask it’s rude and she’s not entitled to it, it would be nice of her friend to give her some but it’s literally not her bonus
@@lydiaxamelia I imagine it is common considering her colleague said it to her. And I would also say her friend knew people tend to split it because she kept it a secret. The company doesn’t split the money for you, you have the choice to split it once it’s been paid out. Although nothing can be done now, I think splitting it would have been the nicer thing to do if you’re close friends.
I think the colleague who mentioned it just got it wrong otherwise she would’ve known about it 🤷♀️ her friend did nothing wrong imo even if people do tend to share it’s her money and she can do what she wants with it, she got her friend a job she shouldn’t complain she can refer someone if she wants 8k
@@lydiaxamelia I think it just depends what people usually do. If most people share, I would think it was odd that my friend didn’t want to. She doesn’t have to, but I would want to share with my friend. And then it’s a chain, if she refers someone, she shares with them too.
I think your views on the bounty money situation (not sophia & cinzia but people commenting in general) says a lot about you as a person & your mindset & values imo. If I helped my BEST FRIEND by getting her an opportunity for a job & I knew I'd get 8k for it, basically free money, then I'd want to share it with her! Wether I gave her half of the money or just a couple of thousands, I'm still quids up! Share it with your friend & enjoy the money together. Times are hard nowadays. I'd feel so guilty keeping all that free money to myself. Also I've seen people say, "she took a risk getting you the job because you could have fucked it & made her look bad" but if it's her best friend then I'm sure she knows the type of person she is & trusts her. My opinion would be different if it was just a person you know a little or a friend of a friend & your trying to do them a favour but if it's your best friend then ffs , share some of it & don't be greedy lol
I definitely think the friend purposefully didn’t mention the bounty money from the start and is now casually acting like ‘oh didn’t I tell you.’ Not saying she isn’t kind of entitled to the money but I think she definitely chose not to tell her friend on purpose because she probably knows the nicer thing to do would be to split the money.
I just wanna know, do you guys get annoyed at each other when you talk over each other?😂😂 cos when people do that to me it windssss me up. Am I just a miserable biatch?😂
