Great Video! That was an exact problem I was having(over all volume). Would really appreciate it if you could do a video where you start from the very beginning of getting the pedal, how to use it as your interface and how to incorporate Tone net and Amplitude 5 with it. Thanks!
I want to say thanks to you for these videos. I was about to return my unit because I just wasn’t getting the results that I wanted. Your videos have cleared up a lot of confusion for me. This unit does indeed sound great with the right tweaks.
Thanks for these videos on the Tonex pedals. Would you be able to do a video on the connections, including connecting it to an amp? It would make your series complete, just my thoughts. Thanks again Jason.
Thanks Jason for the detailed explanation of the volume parameters! I was trying to figure out how to even out the volumes of the presets in my library and now finally understood from your explanation what the manual was saying. 🙏
I've tried messing with input trim and volume, I've swapped cables, I've tried everything I can think of. My Tonex still sounds awful. I'm either going to sell it or send it back to Sweetwater.
I was about to sell/return my unit until you showed the parameter function. All of those things i searched for under settings. I thought those were only available on the computer software and that ToneX software is ass x1000. A quick pop into those and got complete balance in tone. Thank you so much
Great Video! Very helpful. I might also recommend maybe doing a video on how to load your purchased presets. From download, what files to store them. The entire process. I read A lot of people are confused. You are the best for this task as you really explain it thoroughly and your video’s are really the best on RU-vid. I personally have recommended you Chanel to several of my friends. Killer guitar playing. Thank You.
Hi Jason - thanks so much for all of your great information and support! My Tonex pedal is being run into a Line 6 Power Cab plus 112. The output is very bass heavy to the point of not being useable. Not sure if it is the pedal or the FRFR. Has anyone else experienced this? I have tried tweaking the EQ on the pedal and the FRFR. Ideas? Thanks!
I haven't bought the pedal yet but there is something which I think will be an issue and I've not seen it discussed. Because the Tonex doesn't have a send and return socket, if you want to use perhaps a chorus and delay guitar pedal you will probably mean you have to turn the output of the Tonex down so it won't overload the external pedals. That means the lower output from the guitar pedals won't drive a power amp (or some fx returns) properly; you will get reduced volume. I have had this happen with a Hughes & Kettner Tubeman, I had to turn it down so I could use pedals but then it wouldn't drive my power amp properly. The only answer would be an additional preamp at the end of the chain to lift the level back up, but I haven't found anything suitable yet. I have seen it said that the lack of a send and return isn't an issue but I think if you consider the above it really is a problem.
First off, I noticed you grabbed some tone model packs, thanks so much and I hope you enjoy :-) While what you mention could most certainly be an issue depending on what pedal you are putting after the Tonex Pedal, it would be very similar to inserting them into the fx loop of any normal tube amp. When we insert a pedal into the fx loop the signal hitting the pedal(s) is a Line level signal since it is after the preamp section. So, it will be the same situation as putting the pedal after the Tonex pedal which would also be feeding the pedal a Line level signal in the same manner as the fx loop of an amp. I feel that any pedal that would work in the fx loop of an amplifier should work out alright :-) Hope that helps! Thanks again!
I got my ToneX Pedal yesterday and to be honest, i'm still trying to understand how to get things done correctly. What it means is, that it makes a huge difference how you connect your interface to a specific device. What i have learned so far is, that you can connect it via USB directly to your MAC or PC or via 1/4 inch cable into your audio device, you can even let USB and 1/4 inch connected, but then you have to understand which input / output you select in the ToneX software and/or your DAW. Since there are multiple choices it makes it a bit hard (at least for me) to get the results - in terms of good quality sound, whatever preset i select - in an acceptable way. For the time being i'm doing learning by error and take notes what sounded good and what sounded bad. Especially when i play thru the ToneX Pedal into my Apollo x8 the ToneX "Clean Presets" sound way too quite and on the other hand all the "Driven Presets" sound way too loud. I adjusted the TRIM IN, i tried different settings with the VOLUME on the unit, i tried settings with the MAIN VOL.....but the result is - for the moment - not really satisfying or in other terms it's not really "plug and play" - therefore i really can understand that a lot of people are a bit frustrated with the unit at the beginning cause they can't achieve the sounds they would like to hear. Especially when recording into my DAW i'd like that things work easy and fast, without thinking, just grab the guitar, start the daw, select a sound and get my ideas recorded in a quality that is the same all the time. Am i frustrated now? No, not at all, cause i suppose there is a certain learning curve, but i'd wish there was a video out there showing the different ways of using the ToneX Pedal together with the ToneX Software AND - most important - how and in which way the unit is connected to an Audio Interface or PC/MAC and which settings have to be taken into consideration on the Pedal and within the software. @Jason: Many thanks for your work, it helped me a lot, but as you see - im still struggling (and maybe others too). Keep on going you are doing a great job! Cheers!
Additional Remark: Maybe most or maybe some of you know this, for me it was pretty new and i just discovered it while trying to get a clean sound that sounds like it should sound - and not like an amp that has only 0.2 watts or stands in the next room. It is absolut crucial to adjust the compressor and noise gate settings (presence and depth too) on the ToneX pedal. If you don't adjust then on the pedal, the sound of clean amps will stay at a very low volume and will sound unsatisfying.
My pleasure :-) In the demos at the end I have no fx other than a dab of delay on the main lead, other than that everything is processed completely within the Tonex preset. On the demo video on my website, I also play the soloed, un-layered tracks at the end of the demo. You can hear those here if you would like... bit.ly/3Zb4JBm
@@JasonSadites Thanks, I went and listened watched all the videos. It must take hours to do all those Presets/Captures. Your Captures sure sound great and I love the layered effect. One of the last Solo sounds on it's own sounds just like what one would think was a Dumble amp. Robben Ford sound.
@ksharpe10 ahh thank you and so glad you enjoyed the demos and tones. They are a LOT of work to do but we'll worth it. I always want to offer the best product I am capable and to hear positive comments means a lot. So thank you 🙏🏻
My secret. Give it to my son. When he figures it out he brings it back and shows me how to use. When he brings it back may take a while depending on how much he likes it. I have two pedals I haven't seen in about 3 years. So there is a cost.
So in essence, if using the tonex pedal as your audio input via usb to feed the software (via channel 2), there is no need to tweak the trim, as it will be the same when playing through the software or the standalone pedal
Hi Jason. So are you saying that for "most purposes" we need to keep the volume on the Tonex Pedal Maxed out to 10 (as a global setting) and then adjust all presets from there? Just subbed & Thanks for what you do!
If im using just the software and not the pedal are you saying that the sounds I'm hearing through software are more true to the way the preset is supposed to sound? The software doesn't have all the extra submenus that the pedal has. Would've been nice if all the submenus of the pedal could be adjusted in real time through the software
I am finding it frustrating that there seems to be an overtone coming through> I can stop it with the noise gate but it is there and doesn't seem to be on the videos I'm seeing in> Not sure how to sort this
Hi, Can anyone please advise me; Can you edit a patch in the library, on the computer, or can it only be done on the unit? What I mean is, can you edit in library the same way you can do it in player? Or, can you put patches in the library into player so you can edit them? Thanks in anticipation. :)
I'm struggling a 'bit' with using the pedal with Logic Pro (I suspect my question applies to any DAW). Is there a way to connect the pedal to my computer via USB (the "in") and then have the output from Logic go to another interface (the one with my monitors connected, and with mic pres)? I get sound ... but it has lots of high pitched noise, the occasional period of silence, and this random beep. Once I have that ... definitely going to deep dive into your excellent instructions! Stuck in first gear though. :(
To use both as an interface you set up an aggregate device on your mac’s Audio midi setup. Then logic will see it as one device. You have to make sure sample rates match in both interfaces. It’s an unreliable headache, I’ve never had great results, hiss etc. If you have a reliable interface, just plug tonex outputs into your interface inputs.
@@Rialas This is really helpful. I did what you suggested and it definitely improved. You're right though ... just going from the pedal into my interface is much better, just a little more cluttered on my desk. Now I can dig into the actual 'how to get the most out the device' stuff lol. Many thanks.
Hey Rob, Yeah I just set that one time and then forget about it. If a preset needs tweaking from there I deal with it with the Gain control on a per preset basis.
It would be great to have some kind of instruction on how to hook this up to the Helix. No, that's not a dumb question. Try it and you'll see that it loses a lot of oomph when you do. I have the UA Dream 65 hooked up to the Helix and pipe the helix fx pedals thru it and it sounds fantastic. Now I want to do the same thing with the Tonex without sacrificing its tone. Should I have for example, used an FX Loop regardless of the fact that it isn't stereo in? I chose send on 3 and return on 3/4 Should I make any trim settings? Do I have to apply eq to get that girth back? I A/B'd it with sending signal directly to the board and the difference is very noticeable. Also would like to know where to put the fx loop in the signal chain. Since you have both units I figured you would know. : )
great Video thx! have the relatively bass heavy headrush 108 frfr speaker. can I set the overall bass parameter in the global settings for all tone models? or is there another solution to lower the bass in all models? thank you very much 😉
Hi, how can I change the parameters in real time in Tonex pedal software. I tried in tonenet, but I can’t hear anything. I have to change parameters, download the preset, copy it to librarian and then listen to it. There has to be an easier way. Also when I have my librarian on, the presets at the bottom of the app can’t be heard, why? Thanks
I plug this into my scarlett 2i2 and the tones don’t sound this good.. its either super thin, the latency is crazy … idk what im doing wrong. Sometimes it has way too much bass even if i dial it to 0. I changed the chord i was using amd or fixed the static cutouts when using ASIO in the plugin and the pedal connected. Idk…when i hit the switch on a preset i assume is like a boost it gets super squealing and feedbacky
I could really use a video on a live set up. I have the Tonex pedal running into a few headrush frfr 108’s, but it’s meh….Katana? Straight into board? Any help would be great!
every modeler I owned I always go for the fender twin as my go to amp and I judge the modeler on that amp.helix lt stomp podgo headrush mx5 and nux amp academy all sound good to me but Im not sure why but tonex sounds muffled not clear.I hope its me but im using the same speakers iused for everything i mentioned and they all sounded imo good. Help!!!
Input trim: I’m running my tonex pedal through an fx loop on Helix Floor. Am I better served to use the trim on the tonex or adjust the send/return levels on the fx loop block on the helix? Is there a difference? What would he considered the best practice here?
I run a GT1000 the same way & know you can do this with HX, set the send to “instrument level” & the return to “line level” then lower the input trim on ToneX 😉👍🏼 obvs you set you input on HX too
If I use the tonex pedal with the software I have a problem...If I play sounds from software the pedal is still playing the sound stored from the pedal..hope that make sense...I have 2 Sound Sources playing and that obviously sounds bad..The pedal is set to interface but it still plays the sound from the pedal..how can I change that?
nice video. My issue is that I dial the trim input to my guitar to some presets and then other presets still sound different between software and pedal . This means that it would be needed a trim setting per preset if you really want to have the pedal sounding like the software once you find a preset or tone model in the software that you like. I actually asked in the ikmultimedia forum yesterday about this but I got no replies yet.
There is a trim control on a per preset basis, it is the Gain control on the amp in each preset. The idea is that you would set the Global Input Trim so that the tones you are getting from Tonex pedal match the software. From there, on a per preset basis you can adjust the Gain knob to get the sound you would like out of that particular preset. Hope that helps :-)
@@JasonSadites thanks for the reply. Yes, I know the purpose of the Global Input Trim. I watched your previous video about it. What I mean is once I adjusted the global input trim, some presets do sound the same in the software and the pedal but others don't. For instance, I trim at -13dB and get the UK800 sounding the same in both devices. But at -13dB the UK30 sounds way, way different in both devices. Hope I made it clearer now.
No problem. I understood what you meant. You should not be getting different results per preset. Can I ask what audio interface you are using and what input you are using to plug your guitar into the audio interface while using the software?
@@JasonSadites of course. I am using a Focusrite 6i6. I connect 2 TS cables to input 1 and 2 on the front of the interface, then use a A/B pedal to be able to switch from one to the other and in one of the inputs goes the guitar direct for the software plugin and to the other one the ToneX pedal. Both inputs are on instrument setting (not line) and gain of both inputs is at 0dB. The pickups in my guitar are Fishman Fluence Modern, so high output active pickups.