HEMA | Swordfish 2017 - Open Longsword FINALS

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Fight for 3rd place (03:21): Mark Wilkie vs Alexander Makarov
Fight for 1st place (16:42): Dennis Ljungqvist vs Ivan Novichenko
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@sapphocomputers 6 лет назад

Novichenko looks like he could be the main antagonist in a superhero movie.

@ViciouSExorcisT 6 лет назад

The movie with the realistic fencing? Yes please! ;)

@sigma6656 6 лет назад

Aww heck, I'm sure he's a nice guy. He's gotta do something about that perpetual scowl though.

@Valexxx15 6 лет назад

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

@alfatazer_8991 6 лет назад

@@sigma6656 He's Russian so he was born scowling.

@sigma6656 6 лет назад

Alfatazer _ Well... THEN HE NEEDS TO SLOW THE HECK DOWN!!!! Get it? Because he's rushing? He's rushin?......

@GandalftheWh1te 6 лет назад

The way the ref twirls that stick everytime

@Night-Jester 6 лет назад

THANK YOU

@ViciouSExorcisT 6 лет назад

My pleasure, glad you enjoyed!

@Splatpope 3 года назад

that last blow by dennis was a goddamn decap

@itinerantpoet1341 2 года назад

For my money, if you want this art to really become advanced, you need to disregard mutual hits, and only award points for clean strikes. Sure, it's hard, but so is the real sword art: "If it's easy, how good can it be?"

@ZdzichuRaczka 6 лет назад

1:20 damn that was good fencing :> .

@jordantheriverman6143 3 года назад

Where are the paddocks?

@pathumus8093 2 года назад

Cut the ads !!!!!

@nick_stein 5 лет назад

Referees should have protection.

@lucasavelli2945 3 года назад

No, fighters should be aware where they are swinging instead.

@The_A_r_i_e_s. 2 года назад

god that shit was dope

@Vox_Popul1 2 года назад

Hate how after blows give points. Afterblows shouldn’t give any points, otherwise it incentivizes this unrealistically hyper-aggressive style you see in HEMA competitions.

@Pubert1282 5 лет назад

That rat tail tho

@bubblerum69002 5 лет назад

Jesus Christ LITERALLY what I was gonna say. Glad I scrolled and found someone else who noticed 😂🤣

@abdelhakyac7285 4 года назад

far rom being at a witcher's level, but the immersion was good

@dlee7059 5 лет назад

Русские вперед!

@wagie95 5 лет назад

Is this how they used to fight? I know its was nothing like movies but seems.. I dunno.. also unrealistic

@Aerostarm 2 года назад

This is pretty much exactly how they fight

@Darcy_Winterthorn 6 лет назад

pairing it to witcher 3 music was genius.

@ViciouSExorcisT 6 лет назад

All the credit for the magic goes to Jillian Aversa: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_qFhfpYDCQ8.html

@joshstanton267 5 лет назад

recognized immediately haha that song amps me up xD

@AWZool 5 лет назад

@@ViciouSExorcisT And Percival, the original composers : ]

@DZ-1987 5 лет назад

Sod that, Two Steps From Hell would make anyone shit their pants.

@Likexner 2 года назад

It sounds like a gypsy woman yelling random syllables.

@x-rhoden-x6477 6 лет назад

Is it just me or do all Russians have a 24/7 poker face? Novichenko had no facial expressions leading up to the finals.

@Mr-Tibbster 6 лет назад

It's a cultural thing. It's seen as a strange thing to smile too much in Russia. Some people who have visited Russia have been arrested by police because their "smiling was suspicious". It's so ingrained into the culture that Russians who deal in foreign relations have to take smiling classes.

@ericfrolov148 4 года назад

@@Mr-Tibbster K dude cmon, we don't smile as often as people in western Europe, USA or Canada, but damn that arresting story is fishy af. I never heard thing like that happening here for that particular reason you described.

@Mr-Tibbster 4 года назад

@@ericfrolov148 I was only parroting what was on the BBC news here in the UK, that's what was literally said, and they had interviews with citizens on the street there saying if you smile in public for no reason, the police will find it suspect or think you're crazy. Hence why they were saying they had to take "smiling classes" for dealing with non-Russians. If that's not true, our media is to blame for spreading that falsehood.

@faramund9865 4 года назад

Lame final, if possible this sport needs to focus less on hits and more on the lethality of the hits. Throwing your longsword out with such a weak grip is not going to hurt anybody. Literally this guy throws the lame hit and gets thrusted straight into the throat. That should’ve been 0 points for that one handed guy. And like 10 for the other.

@happy_camper 6 лет назад

So awesome! I’m only a beginner, but I’m really looking forward to participating in events. And I can’t wait to branch out into other disciplines. HEMA has an amazing community of likeminded people, feels like a big family.

@ViciouSExorcisT 6 лет назад

HEMA community does feel like a big family indeed. There are many discussions on social networks, if you are interested: facebook.com/groups/HEMAAlliance/

@LuceronYothwa 6 лет назад

5:45 holy crap, a HEMA fighter with a painted mask I didn't know those existed. (Don't worry HEMA I still love you even if all of you look the exact same when in gear)

@Grivian 6 лет назад

Ivan is awesome. I'm sure he will come back and win next year. He got a bit predictable and his inexperience started to show in the second round, otherwise it would have been a comfortable win.

@Lobster_Lars 2 года назад

Ivan had so much to learn and is a bit of a one trick pony. Geissel to the legs and then turns his back. He did this in almost every exchange. He didn't even qualify for longsword in 2018. Everyone was on to his tricks. So much for comfortably winning

@OnajTamo 6 лет назад

Novichenko had an impressive defence in the first half, but then it fell apart. Anyways it is nice to have a new youngster in the sport.

@Mrzoux1 3 года назад

13:23 THAT LOOKED SO COOL

@ViciouSExorcisT 3 года назад

Absolutely agree, a fierce yet technical exchange with an infinite replay value.

@comandosespeciales 6 лет назад

This must be the coolest tournament ever. Swordfighting, wrestling, a lot of different swords...

@mateoaudio 6 лет назад

Anyone knows what pants is Novichenko using ? And his gear ? Looks like a nice alternative to the standards. Thanks

@ViciouSExorcisT 6 лет назад

I believe it's custom assembled. Like the shorts (instagram.com/p/BXE6VzAlQvG/?taken-by=ivansairess) he uses even during training might be a verion with metal plates (weight) to increase the effectiveness of the exercise (just a guess).

@colleptic 6 лет назад

Watched these fight a few times now. I really like where HEMA is going. I really want to fight everyone I see in these videos...I am addicted to facing new challenges with Longsword!

@ViciouSExorcisT 6 лет назад

I'm pleased to see the evolution of HEMA myself, as I believe many people do. Speaking about tournaments, I think the closest one will be "Wessex League: London Chapter - Finals" in UK, on Saturday, 9 December: facebook.com/events/1756091854684677/

@naddakeeps9964 3 года назад

I admittedly know very little regarding HEMA but something about Wilkie's fighting style looks off. It seems like he is more focused on bull-rushing his opponent rather then utilizing good form. comes off a bit amateurish.

@CountDadLord 6 лет назад

Good stuff. Interesting that despite all the chat about "hitting without being hit" in HEMA circles, double hits are massively more frequent in the fights in this clip than in a typical sports fencing match, and by a margin of maybe three or four to one.

@ericnesbitt1734 6 лет назад

yeah double hits are massively frequent, one reason is simply because you can hit back with an after blow in hema and your opponent will get less or even no points. But in sports fencing there is no incentive to do so. There may also be more due to some rules that have inadvertently made fighting in a more aggressive or risky manner advantageous. Its is interesting. hema is still evolving I wonder is this will change in the future.

@CountDadLord 6 лет назад

I noticed that Novichenko had by far the best footwork going backwards, and that at the start of his fight he managed to get quite a few singles by hitting while stepping backwards and maintaining good distance. I think the smaller length of arena and maybe the greater emphasis on bladework over footwork in HEMA pedagogy has an impact on the number of doubles.

@ViciouSExorcisT 6 лет назад

www.encasedinsteel.co.uk/2014/12/12/some-more-thoughts-on-double-hits/

@CountDadLord 6 лет назад

Good article. Thanks for the link.

@zaganim3813 6 лет назад

well there are doubles and then the are doubles..

@tobiaszkukotko8655 2 года назад

20:08 most beautifull spin i've ever seen

@Wulfseal 6 лет назад

The rule set encourages unsafe behavior. Scoring on an after blow seems to be a left over artifact from when HEMA was new and people were not very skillful. Time is gets removed in my not at all humble opinion.

@WiggaMachiavelli 6 лет назад

I agree, but I think it really needs to be based on whether or not the after-blow is already underway with momentum when the blow lands. If you are hit in the leg a split-second before landing a thrust to the face, in real combat of course you are better off than your opponent; from a common-sense perspective you deserve more points, though from a safety perspective perhaps neither fighter does.

@umartdagnir 5 лет назад

One hit is usually not enough to kill/disable a person. So you need to know how to protect yourself even if you deliver a hit. The afterblow system is one of the main between differences between HEMA and sport fencing, and we like it.

@arakasi1033 6 лет назад

Ivan looks like Anakin when he embraced the Dark Side of power. :D What a match! It was great comeback from Dennis, but that one-handed strike and parry was awesome. Sad he was punished for that by rules.

@t0by69 6 лет назад

Tbh just looks like the judges didn't like him...

@ArseneGray 5 лет назад

@@t0by69 tbh it is dumb to "hit" with one hand very lightly and then turn your back to your opponent. and run back to your corner. HEMA tries to avoid that hit-return game which turns sword fights into childsplay. I liked judges punish that mentality-

@faramund9865 4 года назад

It’s because he barely scathes him and then runs to score a point. In an actual fight someone would just stab you in the back (which the Swede did after he got the lucky parry). And the fight would be over and he’d most likely be dead.

@shadowless3337 3 года назад

What a match? I've never seen so much hugging in my life. Don't know if I can call this sword fighting. If your opponent rushes in, block, side step, and counter.

@Lobster_Lars 2 года назад

He turned his back after almost every exchange, recklessly endangering himself. Fighting like that can get you seriously injured. Behaviour like that should be penalized

@DZ-1987 5 лет назад

To think one day i'll be there. Fighting these people. Or perhaps, other people who have bested them. Still, surprisingly, one handing a longsword is surprisingly... surprising. Heck, i do it half the time whenever i train, for laughs.

@Wittemn 3 месяца назад

What happened to Swordfish? Can't find any post 2020 matches.

@zethron1173 2 года назад

22:50 LETS GO BRANDON!

@ידידיהרוזנברג-ד5ס Год назад

Dose annybody know why is'nt HEMA in the olympic games?

@johnlemon252 4 года назад

And WotC say Longsword isn't a finesse weapon

@dr.lexwinter8604 4 года назад

Getting Karen to referee was a great idea. The local managers of every coffee house nearby breathed a collective sigh of relief.

@totesmygrotes 2 года назад

I like that Shakira soundtrack . Toss a coin to your Witcher, eh?

@XerrolAvengerII 6 лет назад

Ivan has to feel sour that he lost so many points to rules

@ViciouSExorcisT 6 лет назад

Technically it was just one point. Ivan's style is not exactly safe, but let's face it - he did make it to the fight for the first place using it, so it's a fair trade at this moment.

@alexmorgan9195 6 лет назад

Agree the back of the head rule killed the match.

@MrSemIsAwesome 5 лет назад

But, those aren't longswords, right? Edit: Sorry I was still in the intro.

@scarlettharper4844 4 года назад

9:30 She loves him! xD

@kballwoof00 5 лет назад

#TeamNovichenko take down the tyranny of ljungqvist!!!

@user-xh3ld3wx4s 4 года назад

すごくおもしろそうですね！西洋の剣術も勉強になりそうですね！

@oolooo 5 лет назад

Double hits should be ignored or straight up penalized .In a real duel , you win by not dying .Points would be meaningless .

@davenickname 3 года назад

found the fish logo too repetitive and annoying. cool otherwise.

@ViciouSExorcisT 3 года назад

Thank you for the feedback! So far I wasn't lucky enough to get my hands on the raw footage without any transitions already implemented, so I had to follow the original logo thing in all my edited replays. Means a lot to know everything else is alright. Have a great day! ;)

@JohnMcKLV 6 лет назад

This allowance of double hits are kind of bull shitty, especially when the 2nd hit is clearly initiated after the first shot lands. Even more so when the first hit lands on hands or face. Seems like a very a-historical lack of defense.

@Mx6D 6 лет назад

yh the rules are probably going to get more refined as time go on but right now, this is way way better and exciting than Olympic fencing

@cabelthewirecordd8473 2 года назад

I could recognize that Witcher 3 music from a mile away. That makes this video much more epic to watch.

@londiniumarmoury7037 6 лет назад

I'm going into the hyperbolic time chamber, I shall emerge for the 2019 tournament, get your scouters ready.

@Dobryi44 3 года назад

да как всегда за судили у Марка больше опыта и ударов травмотичных а так же везде атака и он проигрывает ребята это за суживание

@DaRat100 5 лет назад

FOR HONOR

@The_A_r_i_e_s. 2 года назад

these guys should have point replays for the live audience up on a TV or something.

@Darkrender 5 лет назад

So. Many. Doubles.

@jordantheriverman6143 3 года назад

Why is the black sparrow darting across the screen?

@HillardEarl 5 лет назад

The Art of Being Right Book by Arthur Schopenhaue

@garroyo23 5 лет назад

love this.

@itinerantpoet1341 2 года назад

Stuff like 28:12 is why I think this sport still has a long way to develop. Why is so much of this trying to hit the opponent's body without first having controlled their sword? This type of fencing may be fine for tournament, but it's non-viable over time if these were real sword fights. I only bring in up because there's an idea out there that, because HEMA uses protective gear, it's the "real thing", but this doesn't look any different to me in character than the sport of FIE. In real swordfighting, you can't do that. And that type of non-viable strategy cost the guy the match at 28:19, and it was a mutual hit even so.

@The_A_r_i_e_s. 2 года назад

novichenko swings one handed alot.

@stitchowi 5 лет назад

Interesting... Ivan isnt wearing shoes.

@dlee7059 4 года назад

макаров машина. Дефлекты. парирования

@JoshtMoody 6 лет назад

Amazing exchange at 19:55

@audeobellicus 4 года назад

28:10 THAT EXCHANGE IS AMAZING!! :O

@steve00alt70 5 лет назад

I don't like the way they have to stop after every hit. Make it continuous 2 mins straight like they do in swordfish championships.

@AndrewBlechinger 5 лет назад

What did they call the trophy? The Black Feather?

@olzhaszhumabek2034 5 лет назад

Black feder. Federschwert is the name for the swords used.

@xXAmightzXx 4 года назад

Anyone know good places I good train this stuff in London?

@valvexe1238 3 года назад

Dunno if you will ever read this but take a look at londonlongsword or scholagladiatoria. Also there are good Websites were you can find clubs in your area just google for hemafinder

@xXAmightzXx 3 года назад

@@valvexe1238 Thank you so much

@MissJuggler 6 лет назад

I want to learn how to fight like this, but I don't know how...

@campusskyrum8099 6 лет назад

Find a club, grab a sword and go! Or just take a sword and go! There are a lot of good videos about the basics here. But you will probably only be as good as these boys with a good association and regular training.

@londiniumarmoury7037 6 лет назад

Miss Juggler get a couple of wooden training swords and look up the historical sword fighting manuals, master the basic myers 16 cut diagram solo drills, then decide of you want to invest in the club membership and traini ng armour, mask etc, its a very expensive hobby so make sure you you try it out before investing in expensive gear.

@MoritaJunichiro 4 года назад

🤺👏🏻😹😹

@adamkowalski208 4 года назад

great fight

@voxkoshka 6 лет назад

This makes me teary at times

@RocketGlitch 6 лет назад

WHERE'S MY POPCORN

@ViciouSExorcisT 6 лет назад

Ha-ha, one can never forget to be prepared. ^_^

@xMETALHEADx124 6 лет назад

i wish they did 2 minute rounds and didnt stop the fight after every small hit.

@JRT176 6 лет назад

We are using a similar ruleset to this at the the US Pacific Northwest's regional event Swordsquatch in September. Stay tuned!

@ViciouSExorcisT 6 лет назад

You can also check "continuos fencing". :)

@itinerantpoet1341 2 года назад

I think HEMA is a sport entirely created by amateurs who don't have the experience to interpret the manuals. Fights get messy for two reasons: the competitors are tired or the competitors are unskilled. Fatigue shouldn't be a factor for a bout of this short duration, because battles could last all day.

@konstantin3374 Год назад

One half of those manuals are straight up riddles in long dead german dialects and other has no methodology and is really just picture books with descriptions of actions without any order or context. And fencing duels are completely detached from battles and warfare, they were fun, sports and way for common folk to obtain some fame and glory to advance their social status.

@CrimsonFox36 5 лет назад

How the hell did Wilkie make it to the finals?

@PDZ1122 4 года назад

Never mind the fencing, who is the cute blond referee?

@gitrunner 6 лет назад

Макаров перебежчик что ли?

@myamotomuzashi9080 4 года назад

i live in algeria i want to participate

@joyce1993 3 года назад

Jesus loves you all:)

@cdgonepotatoes4219 6 лет назад

I tried to frequent some HEMA lessons around my area but I don't exactly have the authonomy yet to reach the place on my own, plus I'm having some mental issues that also brought me to have some physical ones... guess I'll just have to stick with sword theory and my broom for now but I will get back there one day

@ViciouSExorcisT 6 лет назад

"Movement can replace many drugs, but no drug can ever replace movement." - Avicenna Stay active, it's good for you. Information from Hema Ratings Beta gives us one clear fact: people who compete more perform better in competition! facebook.com/HEMARatings/photos/a.1223462024411139.1073741828.1223166801107328/1528435163913822

@MegaThibodaux 6 лет назад

Encourage all your virtuous dispositions, and exercise them whenever an opportunity arises, being assured that they will gain strength by exercise as a limb of the body does, and that exercise will make them habitual...Give about two of them [hours] every day to exercise; for health must not be sacrificed to learning. A strong body makes the mind strong. - Thomas Jefferson

@shadowless3337 3 года назад

I've said this before and I'm going to say it again; what's the point of having a long sword if all you're gonna do, is run into your opponent? These guys are high level competitor's, but by the way they fight, I may as well give this guys daggers.

@EffeDnDaHead 5 лет назад

What if someone comes in and doesnt use HEMA? What if they used a wushu move?

@penttikoivuniemi2146 5 лет назад

If it works, it gets scored. It's that simple.

@alpenjon 3 года назад

Yes, though it is save to assume that they figured out most of what makes sense back in the day when your life depended on it. However, not all that worked and was used was recorded. In Wushu, not all swords are two sided, plus the crossguard is smaller to almost non existant, at least according to my quick googling ;) So the techniques may not work, or are non-existant. I would say try to make them work!

@Aerostarm 2 года назад

If they don't do hema but it works they still get a point

@m1nas953 5 лет назад

Novichenko should have one that fight

@ΟΙνδιάνος 5 лет назад

Looks cool but i prefere sport fencing

@Himman0 5 лет назад

Its a fucking Zweihänder or not? :D

@c0nstantin86 5 лет назад

guy with more knowledgeable historical guards loses guy who's basic strategy was sumo wins crowd favoring and cheering come backs of guy that knows less of this sport referee is a woman because we're now in 2018 or was 2017 i'm gonna find a different sport....