@@dtaggartofRTDHemp I think was delisted, but this guy makes everything himself, lets home for his sake that doesn’t include this, because that would still be federally illegal! 😂
Of course hemp makes good BP, it was a gift from Shiva. Perhaps remove all tannins from hemp fiber by boiling with 5% sodium hydroxide, expand surface area with steam treatment. Toilet paper is already at that stage. I am not nit picky..but you realize hotter ignition (209 in an inline) and higher chamber pressure (cartridge load) are going to burn that propellant cleaner with higher velocities. I am happy to see you have a strong following, this art will be much appreciated as the future unfolds.
So you charred up the fibers from the outside of the stalks. Basically bark. The part thats used to make rope and textiles. The inside of the stalks are woody, cellulose rich things that should give better results.
@hekpacobctac616 You soak the cut up stalks in water for 24-48 hours, and the fibrous bark peels right off. I'll add too that the fibrous stuff makes great musket wadding.
@@krockpotbroccoli65 Interesting, probably was used for that back in the day seeing hemp was used to be used for all sorts of things. I was wondering, because that stuff looked kind of rough and not very homogeneous.
@@hekpacobctac616On a small scale? You just peel it by hand, no tools no nothing. Just break the core, and pull the bark in long strips, like pulling bark off basswood or mulberry wood. it's the exact same process for hemp, flax, dogbane milkweed.
I have a suspicion that wood ash content is an important thing to consider. The stuff that performed the worst in your tests, hemp and hay, have the highest ash content - it is grass, plant tissue which needs minerals for active growth. Toilet paper is the best because it is refined wood fiber very low in minerals. Oak maybe bad because it has up to 5% ash. Willow, a popular choice, is 1%. If we consider the weight of charcoal approximately 10% of dry willow wood weight, willow charcoal has 10 % ash. The three woods with the lowest ash content (known to me by searching the web and my own experiment) are eucalyptus (0.35%), manzanita (0.3%), and beech (0.17 %). I would also consider brown charcoal (incomplete carbonization) prepared under controlled temperature/time conditions. Electric baking oven can be used to make it. Brown charcoal ignites at lower temperature compared to the crisp black one. Following your channel with great interest.
Makes me wonder how much of the ash content is soluble salts... a good soak and strain would cut a lot of that out. I've been picking on lignin since it cracks into carboxylic acids and other high-temp stable non-combustibles, but ash is just as much a problem.
Most of the insoluble part of ash is calcium and magnesium carbonates, They can be dissolved by acid wash. This is how they prepare Norrit A, a form of activated charcoal used in chemistry labs,
I read somewhere that brown charcoal (made from straw if I remember right) have a tendency to go off when you don't expect it like when you shake your flask.
If you guys go all chemists on us, why not use those paper thingies which are used to strain the chemical solutions? They are purpose made to have the lowest ash content, so it does not ruin your weight results when you burn them. Strainers? I don't know how you guys call them. All my dictionaries drew a blank too.
Thank you for loading the pistol the smart way! SO many people charge all the chambers then fumble around trying to load the balls....much better to load one, ram then leave the ram in place to hold the cylinder while the next chamber is charged. Rinse and repeat. Good stuff!
What you bought was 'Industrial' Hemp that has next to no THC. Unfortunately a lot of people in local government (like those in Dorchester County, South Carolina), who treat it like the other psychoactive variety, and cost framers like Trent Pendarvis $ millions when they illegally destroyed his field of Hemp without a valid warrant.
I don't want to "blow smoke" but this was a great video!!!! As a fellow Crusader on the road to beat the Swiss, I beg the master to make an obsevation..........it is well known that charcoal is the wild child,....in order to direct it to its greatest potential, I suggest not to leave it in the wood stove to long ........once it is charred and left at an elevated temp it begins to revert to a graphite structure and become basically inert for Antique Muzzle loading Propellant.....I strive for medium rare...... ( and again, a truly great video 😅 😂 )
Overcooking charcoal does not benefit bp but I note he is roasting over dying coals in a small wood stove so the starting temp is 550F or less and decreasing over the next couple hours. I've used this method several times to get good charcoal and it's certainly easier than constantly watching the thermometer on a grill. A good question for Jake is he getting consistent MV from different batches of the same charcoal?
Hemp hurd is probably what the other guy was using, it's the pith of the stem where what you've got is the outer shell. Hurd looks to be less than $2 a pound online for either animal bedding or concrete additive (and the former means you can probably walk into a pet store and nab some). Uncarded bast like what you have is the equivalent of shredded hemp rope or burlap. The sci/ag sites say that bast is going to be 50% to 80% cellulose, which is a wild swing... it depends on what cultivar was grown. They also say that hurd is on average 20% lignin, so maybe this is a cultivar problem and not hurd vs. bast, since both of them are similar. Couple papers point to kenaf fiber (it's a kind of jute) and cotton stalks as lower lignin alternatives. Just for things to try, you should be able to cut lignin percentage in a carbon source by a couple means, the cheapest probably being boiling it in plain white vinegar. EDIT: White wood rot eats lignin. So if you find a log in the woods with white fungus all over it and threatening to crumble into dust, you might find a spot to let it dry out and give it a go.
I betting they all shot high & left of center. And, dude - I totally think you should try like making charcoal from chocolate chip cookies after this 🍪
Well being in a legal state I looked at the prices of the real thing and the cheapest is going for 50 bucks an ounce. Makes Swiss look great for price. So maybe a cow pie might be the next great $hit powder😮 🥃 thanks again for the hard work.
@@hekpacobctac616 You can buy any percussion arm here in Southern France, without permit, the BP is now not posted through the mail, you must pick it up.
Unless hemp is insanely cheap, I probably will go with Cottonelle. Since you used a Cap & Ball revolver for this review, you might consider doing a video on making percussion caps sometime in the future. Thank you for the informational videos!
Would be interested to see you try bamboo. Would be curious to see if it would turn out similarly to the hay and hemp since they're all grasses? Bamboo toilet paper might also be an interesting experiment.
I'm guessing bamboo won't do very well. It's high in silicates, which retard burning rate. In fact, there's a species of bamboo that is so high in silicates you can actually strike sparks from it.
Hemp fibers are used instead of teflon tape for sealing water pipes in the central Europe. It has the advantage of self sealing after it gets wet. Also most of cordage is made of hemp.
I have literally only seen hemp cord once in my life. The majority of what I've seen is nylon, with most of the rest being various other synthetics or cotton.
A lot of farmer's now use hemp bailing twine as the twine can be injested by livestock without harm its a little more expensive but MUCH easier to get rid of as it decomposes naturaly. Every once in a while you find these wads of orange thread when fishing ( or hunting ) THAT is old used bailing twine made from polyester witch will last till HELL freezes over , and if you try burning it it produces poisonous gas!!
Would love to see you experiment with projectiles too. Aluminum round ball, brass, bronze, copper and pewter all come to mind. Fairly easy to cast and find materials for to make ammo. All patched of course
Love watching the experiments as I finish my treadmill ball mill😎. I was going to recommend trying rice hulls, but after watching this one I suspect it would be similar. We mix rice hulls in the media use when we pot our container trees on or small tree farm. They are inexpensive, especially in bulk. If you’d like to try them I can ship ya a few lbs(we buy super bales of them, many hundreds of lbs) but I actually thought that hemp would rock, and well…..
Now i wanto know how the actuall flower would perform, as a black powder ofc ;) since there are many farmers in the USA perhaps some could donate flower that wont sell or doesnt get selected for the consumer market, it wont have to be pricey
How about combining two of my favorite, past victims for the next B/P science project ....... Hemp Toilet Paper? Yup, it's a thing. Saw some at my local Hippy Dippy food co-op last time I ventured from my mountain top abode in search of supplies. It was about 3 times more expensive than my regular outhouse brand, so didn't try it. Might be interesting to see how it compares to the first (fast/clean) TP you tried 🤔 Thanks for this experiment, lots of fun!
Well was some interesting results. Velocity was not what I was hoping, but is good to know it burns clean. And as someone who use to work in Law Enforcement, yes Hemp has been de listed. Besides Hemp will not get you anything other then a headache if you try to smoke it.
Great video yet again. These are some of my favorites. Testing different charcoil sources, keep doing it. I have a suggestion if you haven't done it yet. People say you can make good BP out of regular pine 2x4s.
Great video as usual. I'm interested in how the Cottonelle toilet paper powder in the Kibler 54-caliber rifle with hunting loads. Actually, a video working up loads for best accuracy using the Cottonelle toilet paper powder would be very interesting. If you have already done this, I would appreciate the link to the episode. Again, I find these videos very interesting and useful. Thanks.
Flintlock ignition is not the same as 209 ignition. I'm on my second batch of toilet paper BP (25% KCLO4/51%KNO3/10% sulfur/14% Cottonelle charcoal) 80gr of this, 3Fg, in a Savage ML-10 , 200 grain cast 44 w/ sabot- 2100-2200 fps
@schinderiapraemeturus6239 I'm curious because I have a Kibler Colonial American Longrifle 54-caliber, great rifle and fantastic ignition, and lock time. I'm using Goex ffg at this time because I have a 25 lb bulk bag I purchased from the widow of a Civil War reenacter. I personally don't use inlines anymore. I also have a St Louis Hawken built from a parts kit from the Hawken shop in St Louis Mo. built in the 1970s 36" barrel and weights a little over 13lbs.
I did an initial test using a plaster bucket in a paint shaker with brass scraps off a lathe. It's seems promising, reduced the dry plaster chunks to a fine powder in minutes!
I find there's a certain group of people who believe that every thing to do with that plant is the absolute gold standard of everything and would solve all the world's problems if it wasn't for the man and his greed suppressing it. I find their claims to be pretty much always exaggerated. This result does not surprise me.
If you can make charcoal from it, it will likely work in bp; just a matter of how well. Tough to compare to other's powder without knowing charcoal ratio, mill time, density, grain size etc. Always fun to try new sources because you never know.
the good thing about hemp is that it would be easy to grow if you required to grow your own carbon ingredients for whatever reason and you can turn it into rope and clothes and blah blah blah so as a tool for off the grid kind of living, its great. Buuut obviously there are very few scenarios when youd need to do all that. Plus how you gunna get your sulphur etc if you have to go off grid?
AHHH! I was expecting better! I'm sorry it wasnt great for ya. I did 75/15/10 and only 2F that did better than cottonelle for me in 45colt brass and 50cal muzzleloader. I have also not used any name brand BP before so I have only compared to TP, bamboo, willow, hemp hurds and degummed hemp fiber. Thanks for sharing the results though.
I would say to try this again , instead of using the straw type substance You purchased, try and source some actual stems or trunks off the main plant , being larger and more solid they will probably make a more lump wood style charcoal which will need to be broken up before milling it , it would be interesting to see if there is a difference, the straw looked like it had been washed and combed ready for rope making or hempcrete blocks or something similar so that most of the starch will have been washed out possibly affecting its calorific value . Thanks for this video I'm playing catch up watching You earlier videos before |I discovered this channel and subscribed . Living in the UK I could end up serving 5 years for making gunpowder , so I'm now seeing things I only imagined and wondered about . So Thanks again , catch You next time , Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well.
Hello, a challenge, for I see another doing smokless powders in older modern muzzle loaders I know it can be done, but you have the time, the knowledge, and a pretty good following to break the lie
I think the RU-vid algorithm doesn’t like you. I typed in every letter to your channel and “Everything Black Powder” still didn’t show on the list. You must be doing something right. Keep up the good work!
You have to find and test out Alder Buckthorn. Here in Sweden its called Brakved, that translates to Thunderouswood or Bangwood. Considered to be the best wood for blackpowder in the old days.
That was his original "go to" carbon source, before he started experimenting with non-traditional stuff. You definitely can't go wrong if it's what you use in your powder, it's a solid choice.
He stopped using it because it can be hard to acquire (and expensive) here in North America. It doesn't grow natively, and is considered an invasive species in the limited area it's been introduced. Which I don't believe includes where he lives.
Something about hemp for black powder makes me think some guy somewhere is aiming his musket or revolver and saying “I’m sending this to you with peace and love!”
Thank you very much for all your educational content. Recently found your channel and got caught up on most your videos. Fun watching your progression. How would rice work for a carbon source?
Dried rice hulls are commonly used in homebrewing (too keep the mash from sticking) so are widely available and cheap. Those are the papery outer husks of the rice kernel.
That’s the part of the plant used for fiber. It’s my understanding that there is a waste product called “hurl” or “hurd” that’s mixed with cement for “hempcrete” building material. Maybe that would work better? If it is available,and dirt cheap, It might be worth a try. Otherwise, it seems like a pain to mess with it.
I made toilet paper powder once several years ago and although I didn't compress it well and it was a very light powder, it performed far better than I could have imagined. I think if I would have compressed it, it would have performed like store bought powder. I think I had the ratios off a little too. I had read about a couple different ratios and was trying to make some sulfur-less powder also... so it probably could have been better.
I lived in Kansas for a short while. Feral cannabis, aka wild marijuana or ditch weed could be found just about everywhere. It is a throwback from industrial hemp plants that were previously cultivated for fiber. If you live in Kansas/Nebraska might want to give it a try as a carbon source.
I believe some more research regarding the pyrolysis process would be interesting. Specifically, I read that iron and nickel compounds act as catalyst to form a more graphitic structure (which I would assume to burn poorly). To test this, I would suggest a comparison using a well understood carbon source (like cottonelle TP). One sample soaked in a dilute iron solution (ferric chloride should be easy to get/make), then dried and charred. A second sample should be made without iron contamination (porcelain/ glazed flower pot instead of steel can). The exact degree/ temperature of pyrolysis would also be interesting, as it's commonly believed that the best performance is when it's not quite cooked to pure carbon yet. This would however require better process control. I doubt, you'd want to buy/ build a PID controlled electric kiln just for this series. This might also shed some light on why some people get "amazing" results with things like hemp while your tests show it to be mid.
Also, the quality of the charcoal is dependent on the charring method and temperature and source of course, but instead of trying new carbon sources, try an electric crucible/furnace for charring where you have control of the temperature, thats key.
Although pot comes from a hemp plant, not all varieties of hemp produce pot. Hemp rope is made from the hemp plant and can be made from any variety of hemp.
i hear a lot of people say it's the purity carbon in charcoal that makes the difference . i don't know that's true but if it is i would love to see graphite as a substitute to charcoal . it would settle the debate once and for all because graphite is pure crystalline carbon.
Pardon me if you have answered this before, but..What makes some carbons more potent than others? Is it chemical makeup or density or something I'm not thinking of? I not only appreciate the quality of your videos, but the humor is great and they are always informative. Thanks!
If it makes good activated charcoal, it willmake good black powder. Hemp makes awsome activated charcoal and also can be further treated to make excellent lithium battery anodes as well.
Here is a fun one you might be interested in. Suggested by a friend. Gun cleaning patches as a carbon source. Both new and used. Id do it myself but Im not exactly good at making black powder yet. Getting there though.
We gots lots of horseweed in iowa wonder how that work. Seems like the stalks and out side fiber wouldent be much differnt from hemp. Sometin for me to try later this summer. Happy trails
@@Everythingblackpowder I was seriously considering charring some hemp stalks I have, since I don't know (yet) how to use the fiber for fabric or rope projects. We'll see. My last propellant exercise was a pretty dismal failure!
@@Everythingblackpowder I used chunks of store-bought charcoal (untreated maple) but from watching your videos I'm positive I didn't mill it anywhere NEAR long enough. About 8 hours. I'll try again this summer!
@@Everythingblackpowder i read a comment someone else made on one of your videos about these videos are going to be the bible on black powder going forward. by taking the known processes, trying variations, and putting it in the format you are, they were 1000% correct. i mean this in complete sincerity- you are doing the Lord's work here. sharing your passion with others and helping them follow their passion. and you are GIVING it to people. my hat is off to ya.
As usual, very good and very interesting video I enjoy each and every one. However, I would very much like to see you use BAMBOO T.P as a carbon source. I feel that it would do really fine, thanks again for another excellent video.
Now, honest question. What are the odds that way back in the day powder was made with hemp (or in reference to your other video) or straw/hay? Obviously this was a time of use what you have, so I'd imagine it was done but I'm thinking of a soldier somewhere between Fort Wilderness (1750) and Chickamauga (1864) needing to make powder and I'm just right curious what the procedure was then. Also would leaves, bark and pinecones work reliably for carbon? Obviously wood would which I'd imagine was the biggest use of carbon in powder.
I wonder if some powder works better in different guns? Caliber and barrel length probably influence what is the most optimal burn rate for that particular gun.
