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Here’s how Merkur became Ford’s second-worst brand failure 

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In this episode I provide the history of Merkur, a sub-brand under Lincoln-Mercury between 1985 and 1990. Merkur only had two models, the XR4Ti and the Scorpio, both of which were imported from Germany. However their high prices and unusual looks eventually killed the brand, making it the second-worst brand failure Ford had, second only to the Edsel.

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@Pickchore
@Pickchore 3 года назад
South Africa got a limited edition version with a Mustang V8. It's called the XR8
@Rouxenator
@Rouxenator 3 года назад
Die beste Sierra wat daar ooit gebou was.
@thecianinator
@thecianinator 3 года назад
@@Rouxenator yeah totally man
@dnfl-7168
@dnfl-7168 3 года назад
@@Rouxenator say less my guy
@isaacsrandomvideos667
@isaacsrandomvideos667 3 года назад
@@Rouxenator ar yeas
@robertsmith4830
@robertsmith4830 3 года назад
That was a mighty car, although the engine was so heavy that you had to be a little bit careful with your speed when going around corners, it just wanted to plow straight on at anything over 60kph. And the brakes weren't too good either. Didn't a road tester for Car magazine manage to total one of the press cars, or am I remembering that wrong?
@Gamer1st1
@Gamer1st1 3 года назад
I owned an 89. I live in an area with loads of hills and curvy roads. The 2.3l intercooled turbo was the perfect car for here. My only issue was having to turn or replace the rotors constantly despite downshifting the manual tranny. That and fuel pump failures. Outside of those issues it was the most fun driving car I’ve owned outside of some trucks I’ve hot-rodded. The XR4Ti stood for X Rally 4cyl turbocharged intercooled.
@joskjj3625
@joskjj3625 3 года назад
Guy in my neighborhood still drives a merkur xr4ti really cool to see it still running
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 3 года назад
My uncle had one, we rode in it a bunch when we visited him in Texas. I thought it was interesting , he was into it. 2.3 turbo was a decent engine , another buddy's dad had a new turbo coupe we got our mitts on but that's another story. Top speed was verified alot though. 🤣
@joskjj3625
@joskjj3625 3 года назад
@@MrTheHillfolk haha that’s awesome my uncle had a merkur xr4ti as well it was an electrical nightmare but then again my uncle bought it used in the late 90s so it was already falling apart
@culcune
@culcune 2 года назад
I wouldn't mind finding one and dropping in a 2.3 Ecoboost crate engine from Ford Performance Parts. Then again, the same thing could be done with an old 80s Fox Mustang or even a Pinto or Mustang 2.
@brianandrews7099
@brianandrews7099 2 года назад
The old Ford 2.3 Turbo were “quick, but sloppy”. Even with a carb or FI, they demand regular oil changes or they would sludge up and starve the overhead cam for oil. Adding the extra heat from the turbo just made the problem worse, along with the hard driving that one would assume a turbo charged “performance car” would be designed to endure, the engine just couldn’t survive. You can only go so far with cheap and dirty performance tricks on a Pinto/Mustang II 4 banger!
@maxfly7079
@maxfly7079 2 года назад
I bet Jim Rome, sports talk host, would do A podcast interview with him, and ask how, what, when on how he kept it running...maybe throw some cash his way too...just to find those secrets...He had A real Lemon one...has named his staff ... the xr4ti crew....lol
@waywardboi
@waywardboi 3 года назад
My uncle was a Ford executive and so he always had different company cars and when he came over in the Scorpio I had to wash it because at the time it was the only excuse I could come up with to get behind that wheel and it was at the time the most luxurious and interesting car I had ever driven. It felt solid when most Fords outside of the panther cars felt sorta hollow.
@STSmithable
@STSmithable 3 года назад
Which panther?
@shogun2859
@shogun2859 3 года назад
@@STSmithable the panther platform. Aka Ford Crown Vic , Lincoln Town Car, Mercury Grand Marquis and Mercury Marauder.
@stephenrye6474
@stephenrye6474 3 года назад
Had an XR4TI and loved it.
@rockvilleraven
@rockvilleraven 3 года назад
@@stephenrye6474 Jim Rome owned one and talked about its problems on his sports talk radio show
@markjohnston3502
@markjohnston3502 2 года назад
And people loved the panther platform during that time. I
@2006gtobob
@2006gtobob 3 года назад
I'm 49 and saw several of these as a kid and appreciated them because they were rear wheel drive and really sporty.
@gsxerwhite
@gsxerwhite 3 года назад
I’m 45 and I got to ride in one when my Dad test drove one. We both loved it but my Mom put a stop to him buying it because she wanted a four door
@lukerinderknecht2982
@lukerinderknecht2982 3 года назад
Love Merkurs! I saw a lady driving a Scorpio last weekend and I freaked out. Haven't seen one in decades. My dad bought an '88 Scorpio in the late 90's at a car auction. We had no idea about the brand or what we were getting into at the time, but it was really nice to drive and came with a lot of fancy features. Unfortunately it was prone to issues. The first time the flywheel broke, it took a few months before my dad could source one and install it. I still remember the day he drove it out of the garage after all his hard work repairing it -- he backed into our snow plow and scraped the driver's door 😆 Took equally as long finding someone who could work with the paint. Then the flywheel broke a second time. I ended up bringing one home from Germany when I was on an high school exchange. That was interesting - going to a Ford dealer with my limited language skills and asking for a "Schwungrad". We never ended up installing it, instead my dad sold it to a guy who was into Merkurs so I like to think that car still had some years on the road.
@simonlangner
@simonlangner 3 года назад
Nice Story! I live in Germany and they were common, regular 'ford' cars here. As a kid I liked these, too bad you don't see them anymore. My first car was also a ford, great driver cars👍😊
@KingPrintmaker
@KingPrintmaker 3 года назад
@@simonlangner i bought one for 2 grand. I had no idea what it was. It was awesome.
@simonlangner
@simonlangner 3 года назад
@@KingPrintmaker Sounds nice👍 How long did you keep it?
@szilardtoth8814
@szilardtoth8814 2 года назад
I saw few Merkurs, both of these privately imported used from America to Europe. I can also remember the british version named as Scorpio-Granada. From the continental european standpoint those were rare Fords to be seen.
@obionemoreslice2479
@obionemoreslice2479 3 года назад
Ford Sierra here in the uk, the xr4i was good. The cosworth incredible! RS500 to die for!
@jeffreywhitlock4882
@jeffreywhitlock4882 3 года назад
I tried to talk my Dad into buying a Scorpio in 1988. They were very popular at the time, sporty with good performance. He bought a stylish Mercury Cougar with a vinyl top. He was right. He kept that car until 2002, never had any problems.
@justsumguy2u
@justsumguy2u 3 года назад
It wasn't just the price and the looks, it was legendary unreliability too. I worked with a guy that had one, bought it brand new in '88. In the 2 years he had it, it spent just as much time at the dealer as it did in his garage. He finally grew tired of the constant problems, and traded it in.
@LordInter
@LordInter 2 года назад
which is weird because in Europe it had a completely different engine, drive train, electric...... oooooh lol
@zythr9999
@zythr9999 2 года назад
lol
@akshonclip
@akshonclip Год назад
I bought one of these used when it was 4 years old. I had no issues with it and put 45k miles on it. 70k total miles when I sold it for the same price I paid for it.
@justsumguy2u
@justsumguy2u Год назад
@@akshonclip Yep, and somewhere in America there's a guy that drove a Yugo for 200K with nary a problem either. My point; you're the exception, not the norm.
@akshonclip
@akshonclip Год назад
@@justsumguy2u I beg to disagree. Your buddy was most likely the exception. Secondly I have first hand experience, you have third party hearsay
@xutxiamoua3455
@xutxiamoua3455 3 года назад
Sterling would definitely make a great video! Another good one I might suggest is Daihatsu. The last Japanese automaker to enter the US market and the first one to leave.
@JL-sm6cg
@JL-sm6cg 3 года назад
One of the reasons those two, as well as Peugeot, failed here due to bad parts supply chains. "Something broke on your 405 or 505, Monsieur? See you in 6 weeks." Daihatsus got so bad that Pep Boys wouldn't even touch them after a while.
@tonybucca5667
@tonybucca5667 3 года назад
DAE-WOOOO!!!
@gsxerwhite
@gsxerwhite 3 года назад
Damn. I haven’t heard that name in a while.
@JL-sm6cg
@JL-sm6cg 3 года назад
@@tonybucca5667 THAT'S the one that was such shit when it hit our shores! Not Daihatsu. They were actually alright.
@roberthoffhines5419
@roberthoffhines5419 3 года назад
The Sterlings were SWEET: great platform, lovely interior...British electronics and gizmos, ugh.
@jasoncarpp7742
@jasoncarpp7742 3 года назад
I remember the Merkur. I've known people who owned some. The XR4Ti and the Scorpio. I found them both to be awesome cars. Since I was too young at the time to drive a car, I couldn't say what they were like to drive or own. But those who I knew who owned them found them to be awesome cars, as reliable as you'd expect a car to be. The only thing we didn't appreciate about the cars was its name: Merkur. We were like *"What?!* *"What the hell is a Merkur?!"* or *"Where did that name come from?"* If it was a Ford car, we thought Ford should've sold it either as a Ford brand car, or possibly a Mercury brand car. But a "Merkur"? What?! The same was true for the Scorpio. It was a fun car to ride in and quite comfortable. I found it attractive from every angle, except from the rear of the car. I did like its appearance from the front and from the side of the car, reminding me of the Mercury Sable of the time. Why neither sold well here in the USA is beyond me. They were way better than the Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury cars that were already sold.
@jackblakesley2103
@jackblakesley2103 3 года назад
As a Sterling owner, I would love a Sterling video.
@shanewaller2864
@shanewaller2864 3 года назад
Hi I own the white ford sierra 2.0 ghia estate in your video .I'm in London England .I bought the car 6 +years ago as a stock car and transformed it in to a full cosworth replica estate including all the running gear .she now has a full yb cosworth turbo engine from HARTPOWER putting out in excess of 400 bhp .a far cry from the 115 bhp 4 cylinder pinto engine she left the factory with. I recently did a you tube video with Adam Smith on my cosworth sierra estate F20YBT be sure to check it out .👍
@lawrencetaylor5407
@lawrencetaylor5407 3 года назад
I knew this woman when I was 19 and she asked me: "Hey, do you know this car called an Exeratti? Is it a good car?" Me: "Exeratti? Never heard of it. Sounds Italian" Later, she pointed out an Xr4ti.
@KenVic02
@KenVic02 3 года назад
My buddy's sister had one back then and she was asked the very same question by someone while she was at a gas station!
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 3 года назад
Two of my girlfriends asked me that exact same question.
@arx3516
@arx3516 3 года назад
Xr4ti, the car for Executive Rats!
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 3 года назад
@@arx3516 SMH.
@Steven-xd5kn
@Steven-xd5kn 3 года назад
Thought it was XRATi too at first lol. The 4 kind of looked like an A lol.
@williamegler8771
@williamegler8771 3 года назад
My parents had a XR4Ti and a Scorpio. Both were great driving vehicles when they weren't in the shop....
@steve-ph9yg
@steve-ph9yg 3 года назад
My brother in law had a XR4Ti it was just like my Ford Ranger great little vehicle when it was running or another way “runs good just don’t start”.
@dontdenymyrighteousnesstru5608
@dontdenymyrighteousnesstru5608 3 года назад
I have an xr4ti. You have never been so right my friend. This car stayed in the shop. Electrical problems, exhaust problems, overheating, you name it.
@bryede
@bryede 3 года назад
I knew a family who had 2 of them and yes, something was always breaking on them. One of them eventually ingested its turbocharger.
@decnijfkris3706
@decnijfkris3706 3 года назад
never had problems with Ford engines. We had Escort, Fiesta, Orion, Sierra, Granada, Mondeo, Transit, and a Fordson. Reason why my dad bought Ford.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 3 года назад
@@dontdenymyrighteousnesstru5608 It's a Ford, what do you expect? :) All part of the fun!
@jameskelley4089
@jameskelley4089 3 года назад
Had an 86 XR4TI and added a Rapido group intercooler. Great power and handling! Traded when second child came along. Always liked the styling of the Capris and Granadas back in the 70's.
@kellyvariste4831
@kellyvariste4831 3 года назад
The Merkur brand is truly a hidden gem I wish that the brand would have lived on a little longer.
@MaximilianvonPinneberg
@MaximilianvonPinneberg 3 года назад
Sadly the FORD world cars followed. So would be relevant.
@krane15
@krane15 3 года назад
@@MaximilianvonPinneberg It was a simple mistake of marketing, not design.
@OhPhuckYou
@OhPhuckYou 3 года назад
Ehh. We ended up getting German Ford's later on. They were just marketed as Ford's. My Fusion is a real "Fusion". German/American engineering, Mexican built, with a mixture of German, Mexican, and American parts. The Fiestas and Focus's were just Mexican built German Ford's, the last two gen Ford Escapes are American built German Ford Kugas. Now all we have from Ford Germany are the Escape, and the Indian built EcoSport.
@ablair37
@ablair37 2 года назад
if it had the focus would most likely be a merkur as well as fiesta and the european kuga and i bet the puma would of gone over too to
@fredaydaybae8450
@fredaydaybae8450 2 года назад
I too wish the brand would’ve lasted longer because the name did indeed sound upscale and it rolls off the tongue so easily if you know what you’re talking about. They had plans to bring the Sierra Sapphire here as the next Merkur car but alas it never happened. Just think if it had come here though, it would’ve been great to go alongside the luxurious Scorpio. I honestly think the wrong ppl are running these damned car companies. Merkur’s demise really makes me sad to this day 🥲
@yakacm
@yakacm 3 года назад
These cars were massive sellers here in the UK, there was Cosworth versions of both the Sierra and Scorpio. The Scorpio was also know as the Granada in Europe, think the Scorpio was just the more luxury version. The saloon was known as the Sapphire, the Cosworth Sapphire were really quite common and very fast for the day, I think they made about 200Bhp which was really good for that era, as the car was pretty small and light, well by US standards anyway, it was looked at as a decent sized car in Europe, as we are used to driving really small cars.
3 года назад
whilst working as a jockey for Lincoln in 1987, I drove several XR4Tis and Scorpios. Those were fantastic cars.
@Marchant2
@Marchant2 3 года назад
I remember as a kid being able to say "Merkur: correctly and absolutely loving these cars. I wanted one really badly because I thought they were unique and ahead of their time. Plus I like the way they looked.
@jimmccormick6091
@jimmccormick6091 3 года назад
I don't know if anyone had any issue pronouncing "Merkur".... if they did, chances are they were not in a position to buy one.
@Redmenace96
@Redmenace96 3 года назад
Me too. It looked like the future.
@SteelskinDMC
@SteelskinDMC 3 года назад
I remember seeing a Scorpio up close for the first time around '95. It was at an auto auction, steering column all busted up, likely having been stolen and recovered. Just falling apart inside. It was so beautiful but in such a sad state.
@enkimerlin3209
@enkimerlin3209 3 года назад
I really really wanted one of the XR4ti's when i was a kid, at the time they looked so damn cool. I t was about the closed we ever got to that rally Escort back then
@adamtrombino106
@adamtrombino106 3 года назад
What I recall about these cars were a couple things. A. Sky high price tag. B. You couldn't get parts, at least the ones to fix the Euro portion of the car. I remember that though certain Lincoln Mercury dealers would be happy to sell you 1, their service depts wouldn't touch them beyond oil changes...
@JDMHaze
@JDMHaze 3 года назад
sheesh i figured, Mini American cars are on European platform/architecture hence expensive repairs The parts availability and intensive labor
@1962delia
@1962delia 3 года назад
I remember the first time I ever saw a new Merkur Xr4ti. It was unique, you could tell it was a German car. Always wanted one, but unfortunately, it never happened. But I do have it's cousin, '84 Mustang SVO!
@greasyrib
@greasyrib 3 года назад
The SVO was better. At least it got a baby intercooler.
@1984xlx
@1984xlx 3 года назад
I had an 84 SVO as well. Very powerful for it's time. I also worked at a Ford dealership in the 90's and had an opportunity to work on and drive some of the XR4TI's. They are completely different feeling vehicles which surprised me. I thought they would be more similar.
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 3 года назад
@@1984xlx XR4TI had a degree of road feel that made most American cars feel like waterbed mattresses or like go carts. Mine would leave almost anything American in the bends.
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 3 года назад
@@greasyrib mine had an intercooler
@greasyrib
@greasyrib 3 года назад
@@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 they didn't come with stock intercooler. If there was one it was likely grafted from an SVO or a Turbo Coupe, Or a Rapido Unit if it was up front.
@landlockedcruiser
@landlockedcruiser 3 года назад
I had an 88' XR4TI and loved it and the Scorpio! Its what turned me onto German cars and haven't looked back! And would buy another if they ever came back!
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 3 года назад
if only they gave it a decent engine like the Sierra Cosworth
@decnijfkris3706
@decnijfkris3706 3 года назад
strange we had a Sierra 20i and it rand very smooth. How fast do you drive on normal streets?
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 3 года назад
@@decnijfkris3706 too fast. It was a half baked sports car.. No intercooler or lsd, drum brakes, sohc. Almost cost as much as the 325i at the time. I'm sure it was smooth at the time 😂
@tonysilliker5977
@tonysilliker5977 3 года назад
There was nothing wrong with the FORD V6 Essex engine whatsoever. Dropped plenty of Granada and Capri V6,s into Cortina,s and swapped the front wiring harness for the injection system into them.. The XR4i was just a engine carried over from them..
@tonysilliker5977
@tonysilliker5977 3 года назад
An if you really want to be brave a Windsor V8 drop's straight in on the mountings with a bell housing swap.
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 3 года назад
@@tonysilliker5977? The merkur had the non intercooler turbo 4
@spoon072000
@spoon072000 3 года назад
I had a white '86. What a fun car. A little under-powered but it had exceptional handling. And a fun little joystick to position the stereo's fader/balance.
@RoxanneBarbelo
@RoxanneBarbelo 3 года назад
I love my 1989 Ford/Merkur Sierra Xr4ti
@GB-nf5st
@GB-nf5st 3 года назад
The post-XR4i (usually called "saloon" in the UK) performance Sierra model in the UK was usually referred to as the Sierra Cosworth, and featured 4-wheel drive. When the Sierra was replaced in Europe by the Mondeo there was no XR4i or Cosworth replacement. The 1992 Escort Cosworth for Europe was the spiritual and performance successor and actually used a development of the Sierra Cosworth Chassis over a hand-built Escort-style body.
@wwetnabamafan194
@wwetnabamafan194 3 года назад
It was this car where Jim Rome gave his radio crew it's name. They're called the XR4Ti because Rome bought that car to make him look cool, but then it turned into a piece of crap.
@richardclark5187
@richardclark5187 3 года назад
I bought one new in the late 80s, on a dealer closeout for about 15k. It was a fun car, that i feel was ahead of its time, getting many compliments over the years. The biggest drawback were expensive parts and the Lincoln Dealerships, rolling their eyes, when i brought it in for service, because they didn't want to deal with them, especially after they had been discontinued in the US. !!!
@johnmcmullen456
@johnmcmullen456 3 года назад
I tried to get a deal on a new leftover XR4Ti in 1987 but no dice. I told salesman I could do a lot better on a new Mustang GT. He said go for it. So I did at the competing Ford dealership. Did me a big favor!
@richardclark5187
@richardclark5187 3 года назад
@@johnmcmullen456 indeed he did. I'm guessing your Mustang was much more Reliable and Cheaper to fix, then my XR4TI, ever dared to be !!
@seeingeyegod
@seeingeyegod 3 года назад
We had a Scorpio when I was a kid, after the brand had died and they were trying to unload them all. I think my Dad paid 16 grand? And he got them to give him the Mercedes trade in value later :) Used to love showing off the electrically reclining rear seats to my friends.
@TheMotocrossVault
@TheMotocrossVault 3 года назад
The word “ marque” is actually pronounced “mark”. The pronunciation you are using is for the similarly spelled “marquee” as in a theater marquee. 👍🏻
@deliuslyndon8340
@deliuslyndon8340 3 года назад
You beat me to it!!
@bjrnpost4633
@bjrnpost4633 3 года назад
I heard it as «marquis», which fit well with a couple car models. Means a sort of count or lower noble title.
@geraldscott4302
@geraldscott4302 3 года назад
Marquis has long been a Mercury name. I have a 2006 Mercury Grand Marquis.
@deliuslyndon8340
@deliuslyndon8340 3 года назад
@@geraldscott4302 But that's not what he is saying. At 0:25 the narrator says "...the end result were [sic] two cars with a name no one could pronounce, and a failed MARQUE [meaning a make of car] after only four years." Not Marquis.
@geraldscott4302
@geraldscott4302 3 года назад
@@deliuslyndon8340 Yes, marque does mean "brand" But the word ""marquis" however you spell it was mentioned too. As for why nobody could pronounce it, I never understood that. They pronounced it clearly in the commercials. I remember back in the '70s when nobody could not pronounce "Isuzu" either. I never owned one, but I actually kind of liked that car. It had 2 doors, rear wheel drive, and a manual transmission. Could have been a lot of fun. Might have succeeded with a different name.
@mattern1974
@mattern1974 3 года назад
Outstanding! I always wanted an XR4Ti!! Thank you for the trip down memory lane!!
@geraldscott4302
@geraldscott4302 3 года назад
The fact that it had 2 doors would make it extremely valuable today. We seriously need a major influx of 2 door cars today. Cars have become nothing more than transportation appliances. We need cars that look good and put fun back into driving.
@johnmcmullen456
@johnmcmullen456 3 года назад
Gerald Scott, I can't figure why everyone thinks they need a 4 door when mostly all you see on the highways are vehicles with just a driver in them, any day, any time of day.
@geraldscott4302
@geraldscott4302 3 года назад
@@johnmcmullen456 Exactly. And that also includes 4 door trucks. When I was young and grew up on a farm, pickup trucks were for hauling cargo. They had 2 doors, and a bench seat. They also had 8' beds that you could get a lot of stuff into. Up until recently I had a "REAL" pickup truck, with 2 doors and an 8' bed that I used to haul dirt bikes, a tent, tables, chairs, basically everything needed for camping. It all fit. These 4 door trucks have a 4' bed that isn't much bigger than a typical car trunk. I don't even think they should be called trucks.
@sporkfindus4777
@sporkfindus4777 3 года назад
Nice video. I liked that you covered the European range and versions at the end. The Scorpio in Europe was actually a trim level of the mk3 Ford Granada, and there was also a 2.9i V6 Cosworth version. The Granada name was dropped for the unloved mk4 in favour of the Scorpio name. The original 3 door Cosworth Sierra ("the Cossie") was, I understand, the most stolen car in the UK in the 1980s, mainly for joyriding. This was replaced by the 4 door Sierra Sapphire Cosworth saloon, which was slightly tamer and more respectable looking, but just as lovely.
@mdavid7149
@mdavid7149 3 года назад
Subbed. NOBODY talks about merkur or sterling! The cars not the diesel trucks!
@Zanelander
@Zanelander 3 года назад
So far, I'm in love with the compact car scene. Especially these Euro cars. Don't have to worry about having a V8 when you have a stylish (and cute) car with a turbo 4 or a diesel lol
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 3 года назад
Ever since I was like 14 and this dude took me for a ride in an 83 GTI, I hadda have one. I woulda never believed if I didn't experience it, but it would toast late model 5.0s till about 65-70mph. Of course the brain was working on how much more power vs how much more you could hold the gap for.
@LordInter
@LordInter 2 года назад
@@MrTheHillfolk which gti the golf? because Peugeot also did a load of gtis too
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 2 года назад
@@LordInter Yep it's the only GTI we got here in the states.
@LordInter
@LordInter 2 года назад
@@MrTheHillfolk oh no, you missed out on the peugeot 205 and 405 GTis, better handling and larger engines (eventually) arguably one of the best handling cars of the 80s and 90s the 205, 19.ltr engines in a car weighing about 10lbs or something :)
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 2 года назад
@@LordInter yeah but we didn't get any of those in the states.
@tancar2004
@tancar2004 3 года назад
The apartment building I lived at 10 years ago. There were 3 of them lined up in the long term parking lot. It's only because I drove by them everyday that I even knew this brand existed.
@mista414
@mista414 3 года назад
Never knew much about these, someone in my dorm about 10 years ago had a red XR4TI and I remember being puzzled at it looking like a Ford (having been familiar with those Cosworth models from racing games) but having the name Merkur. Never looked into it but now I know! Thanks.
@ydnallah1541
@ydnallah1541 3 года назад
In the UK we got scorpios and sierras with cosworth engines. The Scorpio had a 2.9L cosworth V6 and you could get a sierra RS cosworth , RS500 or the Sierra sapphire cosworth (sedan version) with the YBD engine and 4x4 or RWD. The RS500 in moonstone blue is my favourite ever car, aside from a Ferrari F40
@LordInter
@LordInter 2 года назад
my brother had an xr4i, the thing was a monster 😊
@Tf14773
@Tf14773 2 года назад
I prefer the white on the sierras
@ablair37
@ablair37 2 года назад
dont forget the escort xr3i and cosworths and the rear of the rare xr3i orion which my gran had she traded it in for a mitsubishi gallant
@ydnallah1541
@ydnallah1541 2 года назад
I used to have an Orion 1600e, with a 2.0L N/A ZVH (Zetec-CVH hybrid) engine. Had uprated cams, full 4 branch manifolds, forged internals and all the other port/polish etc. Was about 175bhp at the wheels. It was a really good sleeper car.
@itisjustacomment
@itisjustacomment 2 года назад
Ford really well in the UK. Now the Cosworth, sapphire, 4x4 etc are worth a great deal of money for a 30-year-old car.
@DickotheClown
@DickotheClown 3 года назад
I always remember this as the starter car for Midnight Club 2, the cocotte
@danven1256
@danven1256 3 года назад
I can remember when they arrived at the dealership I worked at. The XR4TI was a fun car to drive. We had previously dealt with the 2.3L turbos that had carburetors and had a lot of issues with drivability. So it was a nice change to have a decent fuel injection system and turbocharger even though it still had a pinto motor. Of course there was the big issue with the leather upholstery shrinking to the point that it would split. We did a lot of upholstery kits on that car. The Scorpio on the other hand did not sell well at all. I think I remember maybe two at the dealership. The first one was given to the local newspaper for a review. That didn't go well. The key which was shaped like an old 18th century skeleton key broke off in the door. It sat in the corner of the shop for weeks waiting for a duplicate key because there was nobody that could make one. I'd be willing to bet that today you can't get one at all.
@EvilSSP
@EvilSSP 3 года назад
Despite the piss poor marketing, these were awesome cars. You could make 300hp at the wheels very easily with basic bolt ons.
@Gabesafish
@Gabesafish 3 года назад
I’d love to see a video on the AMC/Renault Alliance and Encore. I had an 86 Alliance 1.7. It was light, somewhat peppy and tossable for the time, however; the built quality and materials were dismal. I always wanted to drive the final performance iteration, the 2.0L GTA coupe.
@corvetcoyote443
@corvetcoyote443 3 года назад
I always loved the XR4TI and Scorpio!,but like the Tucker of 1948,they were great engineerd cars that were to ahead of it's time.
@jediknightjairinaiki560
@jediknightjairinaiki560 3 года назад
I've always really liked the look of the XR4TI. It would be great to have one now.
@JakeBourne13
@JakeBourne13 2 года назад
When I was about 12 I got to hang out with my older brother and one of his friends for the night. His friend had a XR4T and I had never heard of these. After the turbo hit I fell in love with the car lol His dad had 2 sitting in the yard for years, wish I would’ve snatched one up.
@trigbiggers4492
@trigbiggers4492 3 года назад
I had an 88 Merkur Scorpio. Much cooler than a Taurus, but had catastrophic issues with only 30k miles. I doubt there's a drivable Scorpio out there
@DaewooFestiva23
@DaewooFestiva23 3 года назад
There are at least 100-500 left, many have been spotted on the road on Instagram and one was on sale recently on cars and bids
@987654321wormy
@987654321wormy 3 года назад
I had an 88 Scorpio as well. I must have gotten one of the only ones without issues. Pretty much bullet proof until it got to 189k miles on it, then I couldn't keep it out of the shop. I loved that car tho.
@beckigreen
@beckigreen 2 года назад
@@DaewooFestiva23 Wrong.
@runoflife87
@runoflife87 3 года назад
The biggest problem with the XR4TI was: the basic car - Sierra- never meant to be the main BMW competition in Europe (OK maybe Cosworth version) . But the basic 3-door Sierra could've been a great car to compete with Tempo/Topaz coupe actually. The Sierra brochure You used in this video is definately not from Germany.
@589steven
@589steven 3 года назад
Yes, it was in Dutch.
@goldwinger5434
@goldwinger5434 2 года назад
In 1985 my girlfriend was shopping for a new car. She wanted a sporty coupe with a manual transmission. The Xr4Ti made the short list so we headed to a dealership. In 1985 i was 27, drove a BMW, and dressed like Don Johnson in Miami Vice and my girlfriend was of a similar age and also well dressed. We show up at the dealership, which is devoid of customers when we got there. The GF explains that she's shopping for a car and wanted to look at the XR4ti and take it for a test drive. "Are you ready to buy today?" asked the salesman. No, we've just started and this is the first stop. "Well, I'm too busy to take you for a test drive unless you're ready to buy." How can I know if I want to buy it unless I drive it? Had I been thinking, I'd have lied and said, "Sure, we'll buy" but I was floored by the idiocy.
@jimmccormick6091
@jimmccormick6091 3 года назад
There was a guy in NE Ohio who had an XR4Ti that he dropped a Mustang SVO engine into.... That car was something else.
@nineislandshuffle6599
@nineislandshuffle6599 3 года назад
When I was a kid I wanted one of these. Lol. I'm glad I was too young at the time to make that mistake.
@whynotagain3639
@whynotagain3639 3 года назад
I bet you'd still want the proper Sierra RS Cosworth though, which is what should have been imported at the time. They're mega bucks now, an RS500 with 42,000 miles on the clock for sale on the UK auto trader site now for £88,950 ($123,506). The more common Sapphire Cosworth (sedan Sierra) go for minimum £30,000+ with over 100,000 miles on the clock.
@whoami7721
@whoami7721 3 года назад
I remember being 11 and 12 years old and wanting one of these. I thought that Sterling car was pretty stylish, too. Little did I know they weren't great cars.
@IrishWannabe
@IrishWannabe 3 года назад
they are great cars actually, in europe they were called the Sierra - they were extremely popular, used as family cars and race cars and drift cars, they could literlly be everything
@whoami7721
@whoami7721 3 года назад
@@IrishWannabe I was reading how compared to it's Japanese cousin, the Acura Legend, the Sterling had loads of quality control issues. Even simple things like gas gauges not working and the glove box getting stuck. Not something you'd expect in a car of that cost.
@JDMHaze
@JDMHaze 3 года назад
lmaoo
@khalifgreen581
@khalifgreen581 3 года назад
This car was still on the road when I was stationed in Germany in the army.
@MountainDewComacho494
@MountainDewComacho494 3 года назад
When I was in college, I was sent a floppy disk that contained a presentation on how great the Merkur XR4TI was. The presentation compared the Merkur to a BMW and Mercedes.I just remember thinking how weird it looked. It also gave me the impression that it was called a Mercury Merkur XR4TI. I didn’t clue in that the Merkur was its own brand.
@mikemiller7957
@mikemiller7957 3 года назад
Didn't even mention the awesome handling fully independent rear suspension provided. Neither mustang or Camaro could touch it in the twisties ! Best Ford I ever bought!
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney 3 года назад
My buddy had an XR4Ti in high school. It was a great-running, good-handling car for (back then) cheap. Pretty fast outright, but downright hot on a country road. Great car, too bad they were such hunks of crap, haha!
@RedNekLvr22
@RedNekLvr22 3 года назад
I loved the Scorpio. Practical and still had a sedan look to it even though it was a hatchback.
@ThePeachtree69
@ThePeachtree69 3 года назад
Street Turbo magazine ran an article on one of these with a 300z turbo motor. Super vehicle with competent handling above the 300Zx capability is how they described it. Still ...just a great personality.
@DerekKnop
@DerekKnop 3 года назад
Growing up, my best friend's dad had an xr4ti. HE got it in college and all those years later it was still in good condition. We took it one summer and rebuilt it as a fathers day gift for him so he could drive it again. I loved working on that car, I loved driving that car, and I want an xr4ti so much now.
@whynotagain3639
@whynotagain3639 3 года назад
They should have imported the faster and nicer looking fast British Sierra, the Cosworth. think the Cosworth badge would have made a difference plus the car is faster and nicer looking. Ford should then have imported all the RS badged fords of UK too, the Escort RS Turbo, the original Fiesta RS Turbo and the 1990's sedan Sierra called the Sapphire Cosworth which was also 4x4 and also not forgetting the legendary Escort RS Cosworth. If Ford had offered those models and maybe changed the name to Cosworth or even just not created a new sub brand but just brought the European/British XR and RS sports badges for standard Ford models, I'm sure they'd have been a success.
@christopherconard2831
@christopherconard2831 3 года назад
I believe they wanted to import the more powerful version, but couldn't get it to pass federal emission tests. Edit: I doubt it would have saved the Mekur line, but if they could have found a way they could have more aggressively gone after Saab or entry level BMW customers.
@Soundsofthewood
@Soundsofthewood 3 года назад
The problem with that was Ford didn't want anything to bypass the mustang gt. That's why the svo was de-tuned. That got screwed up in the 90's with the taurus sho. I want to buy a merker, but they are pricey now.
@davidpistek6241
@davidpistek6241 3 года назад
@@Soundsofthewood ,so it was like how the Corvette had to get the most power for a long time with gm with the exception of the gmc syclone, svo mustang's are sweet and really rare now and the turbo 4 had potential to out power the 5.0 if it was gnx style tuned from Ford
@Soundsofthewood
@Soundsofthewood 3 года назад
@@davidpistek6241 yup. The 5.0's would bust the block in half if gone past 450hp. They only way to get past that then was to lie to the parent company. They don't want the flagship car to be less then anything else in the lineup. That really messed with pontiac till they went under.
@davidpistek6241
@davidpistek6241 3 года назад
@@Soundsofthewood the ford 4t was killing sportscar racing and exhibited alot of potential a hot xr4ti would have been really interesting especially with the Japanese bringing turbo cars in in droves and mopar running omni glh and the Buick 3.8t ,also wasn't the ta gta turbo faster than the Corvette,,,one year or was the zr1 out then
@95blahblahhaha
@95blahblahhaha 3 года назад
I probably would have bought the 4 door over the coup and if it was named Ford as well
@BriteFrog
@BriteFrog 3 года назад
Great video, I'll be waiting for that Sterling video. I had a coworker in the late '80's that drove one, and really loved it...Seems like I remember it being a venture between Rover and Honda.
@grahaigh
@grahaigh 3 года назад
The Sierra was available in estate form from the start of its in run in 1982/3. The saloon was introduced in 1987 after the whole range was facelifted.
@nolahahnshouse3389
@nolahahnshouse3389 3 года назад
I would love to import a cosworth to the state's! Mazda miata history next.. like there's not a thousand of those out on RU-vid already lol
@jblude01
@jblude01 3 года назад
You should do a video on the Acura Vigor! My '93 was one of my favorite cars.
@joskjj3625
@joskjj3625 3 года назад
My uncle had a red Merkur xr4ti back in the days, it was a decent vehicle
@randybentley2633
@randybentley2633 2 года назад
When I was in high school I would pass one of these with the double spoiler as I walked home and I thought that this car looked exotic and all these decades later I still feel that way.
@bh2155
@bh2155 3 года назад
I always thought these were sharp looking cars back in the day. The Xr4ti looked great in black
@krane15
@krane15 3 года назад
All black with the painted bumpers.
@kaischmidt8030
@kaischmidt8030 3 года назад
Maybe if it had more spoilers and pillars.
@therealgaragegirls
@therealgaragegirls 3 года назад
Definitely need more spoilers.
@briancullinan6855
@briancullinan6855 22 дня назад
I sold these cars at a Lincoln-Mercury dealership. I also owned a 1986 XR4Ti and my dad owned a 1989 Scorpio. They were fantastic cars. The problem with sales was at the dealership level. Most of the salesman I worked with were happy to sell Town Cars and Marquis to the Lawrence Welk crowd. The Merkurs were completely different cars with an entirely different clientele. The guy with the handlebar mustache who sold your grandpa his Town Car probably isn't the guy you want to frame a euro-sportscar sales experience. These guys would literally hide from Merkur buyers. Worse, Ford understood this and required salespeople to become certified before they could demo Merkurs. Only a few of our salespeople took the extra (unpaid) time to do this. Honda and Toyota later did it right by completely removing Acura and Lexus from their existing brand structure. I saw very few curious Merkur shopper converted to sales. Unless you walked into a Lincoln-Mercury dealership pre-educated and with your mind already made up on buying a Merkur, there was very little chance you'd drive away in one of those cars. I think I sold one.
@justinharper443
@justinharper443 3 года назад
The merkur xr4ti is one of the best fords ever made especially for the era. Way better than a foxbody stock for stock. I've had 10 of them . They're fantastic cars but today parts are very hard to get even engine parts are getting harder to find as the 2.3 lima is almost 40 years old and the aftermarket support isn't there. Most parts have to be imported still. I swapped my last xr4ti drivetrain into my 73 capri. That 2.3 turbo is a good combo in the little capri.
@deathtowrestling2518
@deathtowrestling2518 3 года назад
If you've had 10 of them that shows what an unreliable piece of shit the XR4ti is.
@Pillowbiter84
@Pillowbiter84 3 года назад
That XR4TI was a great car....a German Version of a Mustang SVO.
@leeh-xh1iw
@leeh-xh1iw 3 года назад
Didn't The SVO had more hp than the GT Mustang?
@marcomoreno8188
@marcomoreno8188 3 года назад
U got bv that right as ccx well as my '88 third turbo coupe.
@bobbyrobertson7641
@bobbyrobertson7641 3 года назад
Handled 20psi, no problem. Hilariously fast, and a joy to beat V8's with ease.
@termallwilliams8510
@termallwilliams8510 3 года назад
Yes it was!!! My mom loved this car. It was the first car she purchased with her own money. It was sharp!!!
@gsxerwhite
@gsxerwhite 3 года назад
I thought they were cool as hell when I was a kid. I used to call them “exerati’s” lol
@damarisvazquez6253
@damarisvazquez6253 3 года назад
Bob Lutz. The man when at GM (90's?) said they engineer their vehicles to last 70k miles.
@redneck4528
@redneck4528 3 года назад
He was at Chrysler then, but who cares about details right?
@tedpendagast579
@tedpendagast579 3 года назад
Back then 70,000 miles with no major Mech’s bucks problems was actually pretty good Now you don’t even change your plugs until 100k
@dyngbld
@dyngbld 3 года назад
We had an 81 Chevy Citation. They are were very popular and we saw them everywhere. I have not seen one on the road in years. I will never forget the sideways AM Radio. It was also the first front wheel drive car we owned, the transverse engine was something different we had not worked on before.
@mrgold3591
@mrgold3591 2 года назад
I purchased an used 88 Merkur Scorpio back in 1990. Love that car and drove it coast to coast as a young active duty military officer in the Army. Nothing else on the road at that (used) price point looked that good. The hatchback of the Scorpio had so much room and a lot of flexibility. Constant electrical gremlins, poor resell value, and having a rear half shaft explode at hwy speeds at +85,000 miles made me give it up after a . Been a Honda/Acura owner since.
@Unknown-ht6jy
@Unknown-ht6jy 3 года назад
You should try the brand sterling
@Durahan82
@Durahan82 3 года назад
Sterling Trucks ?
@Unknown-ht6jy
@Unknown-ht6jy 3 года назад
@@Durahan82 no
@Unknown-ht6jy
@Unknown-ht6jy 3 года назад
@@Durahan82 Sterling was a brand name of automobile marketed in the United States by Austin Rover Cars of North America
@Unknown-ht6jy
@Unknown-ht6jy 3 года назад
@@Durahan82 the brand only lasted 4 years and they only sold the Sterling 825 and the Sterling 827.
@LG123ABC
@LG123ABC 3 года назад
Fun Fact: Principal Skinner on The Simpsons is the proud owner of a Merkur XR4Ti.
@JDMHaze
@JDMHaze 3 года назад
thanks
@bcranford714
@bcranford714 3 года назад
Jim Rome 2
@mattw8332
@mattw8332 3 года назад
I grew up with the Ford Sierra. You could even get an early one with an underpowered 1.3 litre engine in 1982/83. Some of the lower spec Scorpios in the UK were actually badged ’Granada' until 1994.
@CodyDoesIt
@CodyDoesIt 3 года назад
Can we do one on he Dodge Monaco? My step dad got one and it never ran lol.
@Pablo-sr2zx
@Pablo-sr2zx 3 года назад
I take it you're an American no offence but most of the cars back then were hideous so they tried to steal the XR4I and rebrand it and bollocks that up
@CodyDoesIt
@CodyDoesIt 3 года назад
@@Pablo-sr2zx I was a strange car that sat in the driveway.....
@erikbunty2016
@erikbunty2016 3 года назад
Was it the one based on the Eagle Premier?
@georgereginald6084
@georgereginald6084 3 года назад
Why would they name it the Mercur when they already had Mercury 🤔
@arn7992
@arn7992 3 года назад
Exactly my thoughts. Basically dealerships were Lincoln Mercury Mercury essentially
@kerriwilson7732
@kerriwilson7732 3 года назад
The German name. Likely Ford hoped Mercur would be similar enough to Mercury to be recognized as a Ford marque but still have the 'panache' of German engineering.
@davekennedy6315
@davekennedy6315 3 года назад
These were very well loved Ford's this side of the pond. Here in the UK buyers loved the Sierra (the UK/European name) especially the XR4i, XR4x4 and the legendary Cosworths (RS500, hatchback Cosworth and saloon Sapphire Cosworth and 4x4 Sapphire Cosworth) The Cosworths had their spiritual home in my home county Essex along with all fast Ford's (XR2, XR3i, XR2i, RS turbo, Escort Cosworth and RS200 etc.)
@Ghost63123
@Ghost63123 3 года назад
I use to own a Ford Sierra 3.0 GLX with the A4LD outo gearbox here in South Africa. We did not have the European engines, and were making the old Essex 3.0 l V6 locally, from a 2.5l version up to a 3.8l version, with a 3.0l EFI version. What a wonderful car! It was fast, had excellent road holding and I had to sell it due to a lack of space at home. The Merkur had all those features as what my Sierra had. I think if Ford made it as a Ford with maybe a V8 engine, like the South African Sierra XR8, it would have been a success. But it seems as if Americans are only interested in straight line speed(drag racing), and the independent rear suspension is not really suited for that.
@djdrastic1
@djdrastic1 3 года назад
Ja the Sierras were awesome for their time.Kinda strange that the yanks didn't try and replicate what we did with the XR8 in their own backyard.
@danieleregoli812
@danieleregoli812 3 года назад
Except they were far better builds than the US built Fords, and actually more advanced.
@RobsonRoverRepair
@RobsonRoverRepair 3 года назад
Dam right. Old man was owner of UK Sierra's for long time. Brilliant cars. I always wanted a xr4x4i myself here but never found a good one at a sensible price.
@anselpeneloperainblossom-s3489
@anselpeneloperainblossom-s3489 3 года назад
I’ve owned several XR4Ti All with the T9. An epic car with the worst manual available🤦‍♂️ There is one in rock River, Wyoming I’m thinking about trying to buy
@jcs_190
@jcs_190 3 года назад
Are you serious? My dad had a sierra when it was only a couple years old. It was stolen within seconds. Not only that, the horrible cheap plastic dashboard was just rattly and the cars just rotted away anyway because it was a cheap tatty car anyway.
@herbwheeler4470
@herbwheeler4470 3 года назад
You're kidding right? They were junk.
@spiralnapkin
@spiralnapkin 3 года назад
How so?
@Oonagh72
@Oonagh72 3 года назад
I loved Merkurs!! They looked so cool.
@jamescox1806
@jamescox1806 2 года назад
Had two xR4TI''s and one Scorpio and loved them all! The three speed Auto transmission sucked tho!
@jonsimcoe
@jonsimcoe 3 года назад
I subscribed after the first minute. Keep it coming. Love the obscure car culture.
@paulhansen7667
@paulhansen7667 3 года назад
I still think these are cool!
@krane15
@krane15 3 года назад
If it came out today, it would still look modern. The interior, however, is another story.
@anthonyrivera4735
@anthonyrivera4735 3 года назад
Do a video about the daewoo car brand
@mossmiller
@mossmiller 2 года назад
When I sold Acuras back in 1989, and one of these Merkurs pulled in the older salesmen would call them "Turtles". The resale value was horrible and we seldom actually took one in trade. I do remember a lease turn-in at our Honda store, a Scorpio with a new set of tires. The F&I man at Honda was driving a Scorpio himself, and had the used car mechanic exchange his wheels and worn tires for the ones on the off-lease unit.
@artboy789
@artboy789 3 года назад
My dad was the accountant of a Ford dealership owner and he brought home a Scorpio that he was trying out for a week before buying it. I thought it was a very cool car with a lot of unique features, but he never got it in the end.
@jeremygeorgia4943
@jeremygeorgia4943 3 года назад
They looked like oversized Saabs, with dual spoilers.
@cherrypepsi2815
@cherrypepsi2815 3 года назад
Saab, yes Whale tails and spoilers, ew
@keelay1977
@keelay1977 3 года назад
'Marque' as you're using it, is pronounced "mark"
@palmermccall7309
@palmermccall7309 3 года назад
Thank you. "Marquee" is the sign above the movie theater entrance!
@LilDiabloRob
@LilDiabloRob 2 года назад
My childhood friend’s older sister, at the time (early 90s), had a 5dr Merkur. RWD. But always broken down. And we always got stuck in it during the winters in hilly SW Pennsylvania lol.
@thescarletblimpernel3720
@thescarletblimpernel3720 2 года назад
Very good vid. I'm from the UK, and grew up with the sierra, it was a very dodgy step for Ford, and at first back fired! We had the Cortina first, a very loved car for us. sure, they rusted away quickly but were reliable. And easily fixed. (so was the Sierra as it was loosely based on the Cortina.) the Cortina here was basically your Chevy Nova. Ford north America seemed to lack that size at that time?? Very entertaining content! 👊
@johnkeating362
@johnkeating362 3 года назад
My husband and I tagged along with a couple we knew to meet others we knew who were camping in the early 90’s. The couple had a new XR4Ti. It was roomy, easily storing our bags in the back, and we were comfortable in the back seat on the 3 hour drive. The sound system was excellent. We always thought it was a beautiful car, especially in black. It was a head turner back then, as there weren’t too many on the road.
@garyb2392
@garyb2392 3 года назад
One of my childhood friends parents had a XR4TI…I remember it being awesome passenger experience…recalling my 17yr old me.
@doguecreek
@doguecreek 3 года назад
I had an '88 XR4ti in white, bought it used around '92. I liked it and drove it to about 100,000 miles. It didn't give me many problems until its injectors started leaking and by then I was ready to sell it. People have said the hot engine compartment cooked batteries, and I did have to replace mine more often than typical.
@OttoTheWeim
@OttoTheWeim 3 года назад
One of my school mates had a XR4Ti with the double wing. We always did think it was pretty cool. It just had a cool look and was exotic. This was in the early nineties and I was fooling around in my first car an Audi Quattro coupe. That was my poor man’s Delorean in my mind.
@gatblau1
@gatblau1 3 года назад
That RS 500 looked pretty slick! I wouldn’t mind one of those.
@uchoward1ify
@uchoward1ify 3 года назад
Unfortunately that will run circles on any 5.0 Mustang.
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