Here's how a 17-year-old Toyota Sienna holds up to the NEW 2021 Hybrid Sienna...You'll be Surprised! 

It's in Pesos

Yeah why doesn’t it go up to 220??

In the UK here we have the much smaller, cheaper minivan called the verso with a 160 mph speedo. The fastest model does 118.

ikr, it needs to be much higher

@@ballisticmissl7919 There's also the Avanza in South America.

My dad put 400k on his 04, and sold it for $5k after. Interior was beat up too. Felt way more solid than my 2021.

I guess you changed the timing belt at 100k miles. Did you ever change the water pump. I changed the water pump on my 2007 Sienna at 97K. The only thing. 3.5 liter

@@TobyCostaRica Probably due to the tires...Toyota puts crap tires on their cars.

It’s seems most older Toyota’s last a long time I have a 2000 Toyota Solara and that things runs like a beast with mileage at 201,987

@@TobyCostaRica we have a 2008! 312.000. Miles! You can't even hear👂👂the engine on! Solid great VAN

minivans have been luxury cruisers for a long time. These ones don't have many features compared to top of the line ones. There is a reason the top of the line minivans are now all $50k.

i am Vietnamese and in Vietnamese plazas you will literally see these vans everywhere

They last a TON. Very durable.

In the UK, mpvs (minivans) have never had a luxurious status (probably one of the reasons they are disappearing so quickly). In continental Europe, there is one luxurious mpv called the Renault espace. You can configure it to be over 70,000 euros. But that's really it

Friend has a XLE it’s loaded af

2nd gen still looks aggressive and sporty, 3rd looked fat and bloated, 4th gen looks best, just a little fussy. Still will keep my 2nd gen forever

My dad sold our 2013 Toyota Sienna SE to use my uncle's 2007 Toyota Sienna CE since it was free and yeah my uncle died that's why we're using his van...

How’s your sienna holding up? Just got an 08 love hearing about people’s high mileage siennas

Another car that's aged well? 3rd generation 4runners, in nice shape they look like they came right off the lot. I think they have aged better than the 4th gens

well because the 2008 sienna IS the 2004 version

@@gavcom4060 Well technically they facelifted it in 2006

@@Poopsticle_256 and gave it a significantly more powerful engine

@@AdamSmith-gs2dv l n. .m.m .

Unless the 2nd gen has new shocks, springs, rotors and pads, that could very well be due to age. I recently replaced all of those with OE parts on mine, and it feels incredible, tighter and smoother, just like a new car

I'm replacing rotors and pads this weekend. It does need new struts. That'll be next

@@peterruedig4647 even so, the biggest flaw on the second gen were indeed the brakes. I just remind myself I'm not in a Porsche when it comes time to stop. And yes, I've maintained & replaced brakes & suspension as necessary. The brakes are marginal at their best.

@@dudeonbike800 I installed a set of Akebono brake pads on my 04 XLE, it stops better now

Curious, why did you pick FWD ?? I like you own a 2008 Sienna AWD - XSE , only difference is I reserved a AWD. The salesperson asked me why AWD , his opinion was the FWD is the way to go .. Any thoughts??? I want to change my mind before too late :) Thank you!!!

Yep

39K was a lot of money in 2004, today not so much.

The 2004 Sienna is 54k adjusted, he mentioned that in the video. Compared to the newer Sienna he tested which is 46K! I won't lie and say that the new Sienna has it's issues, but with the right mid cycle refresh they'll figure out some of the smaller details (more headroom, better build quality and fit and finish, removable second row seats, more power for the hybrid and hopefully the 12.3in infotainment found in the new Highlander).

You mean more power, safer, quieter, and way more MPG in the newer?

@@cbkenison More reliability too on the hybrid one, due to the simplicity of the planetary gear set that Toyota uses in their hybrids, just 2 electric motors and a few gears, no pressure discs, clutch, fluid valves, none of that.

we love japanese cars because they work ,if you come from audi you might not find japanese cars as exciting .German cars are great on the first impressions with their performance numbers ,etc but some of them dont hold up very well .If you change car each 3-5 years i think you better with germans ,if you want something to pass to your children Japanese might be the way ,im european as well and i think Japanese cars are kinda rare here and feels more exclusive to own one ,specially a Lexus like i do

Japanese cars are the most reliable

The electrical system in a Toyota can't be beat.

I have to to update you. Yes the 2004 Sienna was developed by Toyota japan but was assembled in the US. the 2021 Sienna was designed, Engineered, tested and built in the US even though it says Toyota on it!..

@@dennisyounkin644 big deal. My 2011 Honda Pilot was built in Alabama. It has 144k miles with no breakdowns

My story and my plan is exactly the same as yours. Mine is 04 base trim, she has served us well. My kid just graduated this year, no more university move, house reno is done, I am about to retire, so I am going to convert the van into a camper.

Thanks Zach!

@@KirkKreifels been here since like 200 subs Really great to see how this channel has grown

@@KirkKreifels I remember watching some of your early streams and talking about Lexus. You were still LexuriousKirk then. I think that’s what it was

I've once heard a joke about Toyota and Lexus vehicles. A Lexus is just a Toyota with better soundproofing. Rather than giving him a Lexus i think they should make his Prius into something more comfortable (softer seats, more leather/faux leather, better stereo, suspension upgrade, rattle fixes, etc.)

@@eivis13 nah Lexus is not an upgraded prius. It's much more than that hence it competes with other luxury brands.

Well, he promotes the Korean brands now which is the competition, so I don't think Lexus should have to do anything for him.

What kind of "journalist" would he be if he took free stuff from brands?

@@eivis13 Maybe you heard that BUT most of the people saying that never owned a Lexus and can't afford them!

Ikr

I'm converting mine into a camper van😁

@@surfside75 I heard you need to cut the seats bolts out. To remove them😯😯

Not on mine. '05 limited 7 seater. Removed second row and the right side of the rear bench. Kept the left side as a love seat😁

Hah, the efficiency stayed almost exactly the same for 16 yrs and then doubled in one year.

but did you see the average on the screen when he was showing the speedo area was only 23.6? It's at 7:17 where you can see it.

wait till the maintenance costs for the hybrid come in, or when one of the batteries breaks down outside of warrantee

@@allenfsanchez9572 they'll never understand

@@allenfsanchez9572 Toyota hybrids are some of the most reliable Toyotas made. Taxi drivers push Prius/hybrid Camrys hard and fleet data shows usage to 300-400k no problems in NYC taxis. If you ever ridden in a NYC taxi you’ll know that’s severe duty 300-400k

Only 100k miles to go. LOL. My parents were so upset when their 2004 sequoia got totaled last year. Still have the 2004 Avalon though. Still the best highway cruiser i have even rode in (that includes my 2016 S6), handling is terrible but its a cruiser.

4x8 sheets in back with tailgate closed. 10 '+ long boards easily fit diagonally inside with tailgate closed. 16' 2x12 lumber on roof rack for short distances. Also put a 32' ladder up there once. This generation of Sienna is a beast. Wheel barrows, table saw on roller stand, 12" chop saw on stand, 1700lbs of rock veneer stone, roofing, concrete bags. Rains here a lot and Sienna keeps everything dry and secure vs. my truck.

I was intending on making the same comment. I have a 2007 with 238000 miles on it and it's still going strong. Looks like I'll hang on to it as long as I can. The fact I can haul 4x8 sheets of plywood or drywall or a couch, bed, dresser with the rear door closed is fantastic. I've even hauled a piano laying on it's back and my John Deere riding mower with the seat removed. Not being able to remove the second row ruins it.

@@madcowusa4277 It's a work horse

We still have our 2005 too. An LE. Very comfortable. I can drive all day in it. New car seats seem harsher. Or I’m getting older. I found a 2005 LE with 61,000 miles. I wanted to buy it soooo bad. Wifey says no. 😢

change oil and drive it until the engine blows.

No transmission issues on yours with 303,000 miles?

@@hedgehogthesonic3181 transmission, engine & AC have been working perfectly since new and Dealer says it some transmission leaks but I don’t see any thing on the ground so I’m not concerned. Incredibly the suspension is still original although dealer recommends replacing struts but again, I don’t see the need for replacing struts yet because it still handles great and no tire cupping or uneven wear found. No electrical issues and fuel injection issues, it still has the original fuel pump. Seats are soft and cushy and in excellent condition. Paint is acceptable but still original. Dealer replaced the dashboard free of charge in 2015 at around 200k miles because they found a small crack on passenger side and said it should not crack after 10 years or 200K lol 😂. My favorite road trip vehicle because of its 400-450 miles range between fill ups and there’s so much space for people and luggage.

@@seikocitizenwatches That's very impressive, Siennas seem to be among the most reliable cars made by Toyota, What about the mpg?

Same here 2009 Sienna 240,000 miles. Just changed wheel bearing, tie rod, sway bar link as well. Got it aligned. Super smooth. I went ahead and cleaned the throttle body/maf sensor as well.

My mom had an 05 limited v6 until she got in an accident due to someone popping a tire and losing control and hit her....basically total loss. Bought it brand new with 12 miles on it too. Replaced it with a 15 Rx350 and it just doesnt feel the same. Miss our Highlander :'(

@@SimornMI miss mine too. My 04 was my grandfather's that he gave to me several years ago (he also bought it new) . After a accident where it was almost totaled out back in late 2019, it never drove the same. Ended up putting at least 4k into it up until July 2020 when the transmission failed. We threw in the towel and donated it to charity. Ended up with my mother's 2012 HL Limited and she ended up getting a CPO 2018 Lexus Lx. I still miss my 04 due to the nostalgia of it being my first car and, the smaller form factor. Also the aftermarket radio I got as a birthday gift was so much better than the Stock JBL GPS unit in the 2012 that cannot be swapped.

@@adamk9652 i think ours ended at around 220k miles, I didn't really appreciate it until I found out that it's made in japan LOL something that can't be said about the rx (canada made)

I have a 3.3 l in my 04 Sienna, it's pretty quick for a box

@@troystocker6179 yeah the 3.3 is pretty quick, but my mom's 3.5 in the RX is waaaay quicker haha

Unless you go for a vacuum, which takes the same place in the side wall.

Plenty of gen 2’s running around, but I haven’t seen too many 3MZ-FE-powered (pre-2006) examples. 2005 LE AWD at 116k, bought new. Just has the aircon recharged and got new steel wheels and tires on it. I’m a college student and I think this van is incredible, on top of a certain amount of sentimental value having grown up riding that van. Wish the fuel efficiency was better though.

Love my pearl white 05 customer optioned 1owner Sienna. So fast but now that I removed the second row and pass side jumper seat .. This thing is getting converted into a camper using nice light weight birch and pine. Bar sink, hot water, wood floor, fridge etc.. Wish me luck, the floor is going to be the hardest part!!😔

do your parents want to sell their sienna lol

Thanks for adding your insight!

where did you find a 07 with that low of miles for that cheap?

My 2012 has been problematic ......

It's got a rubber timing chain. Expense to replace. So we went with a 2008. Steel chain

Agree, I've often considered replacing my 2007 Sienna with a new model but not anymore. No removal second row no more purchasing another Sienna.

@@mikelang4191 Oh yes. I was hesitating condidering my 2008 to replace with 3rd gen or 4th gen. But no removable seats, which is crazy

It’s just as nice! If not nicer cuz the highlander usually has better materials than the sienna

A more fair comparison would've been to the limited or Platinum. Got to play with the cards I've been dealt 😂

Come back down haha. Can't wait for the new Civic!

It’s a first model year so expect imperfections

Most hybrid battery packs (especially from Toyota) aren't nearly as expensive these days... $2k-$4k, which is paid for in a few years by the better MPG.

Can I ask you how much you pay?

I am looking to sell my 2004 LE with 112,000 miles very good shape.

@@jairoarchila1743 when I bought mine , the blue book value was $7200

@@troystocker6179 thanks for the info maybe I can get $3,500

Yep. Still is. Changing the struts and front brakes this coming week...that should last it a long time

most exotic cars don't have adaptive cruise control system's LOL even the new ones don't.

The hybrid is rated to tow the same amount…

@@ikelee Just because it can doesnt mean you should. I personaly wouldn't. Specially through mountains.

@@muddyriverdogz that…doesn’t make any sense. Are you saying it’s falsely advertised to tow 3500 lbs?

@@ikelee Not within its warranty period.

You have to pay for a spare tire on the new Sienna just like you had to on my 2004 awd... Since I bought mine from the first owner, he bought the spare haha.

You can have the spare for $75 on any trim, not like in Canada you can't even get one but only on the LE

Why would you want a minivan in the first place

The newer one is safer, less expensive (in real terms), and has much better mpg. With all that said I’d save the $$$ and get an old high highway mileage well maintained old one from the early 2000s. You can buy aftermarket infotainment systems. I can’t imagine driving without a spare or tach.

But they have airbags in them now so...it’s a heck of a trade off. They can still be removed if absolutely necessary though.

There's a good video on removing the seats, and it's not bad. Removing the seat tracks, which still are 2" above the deck is much tougher, though.

Insist Toyota to make a prime version!