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Here's What a Former GTI Owner Thinks of the Hyundai Veloster N - Review 

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The hot hatch market has seen a lot of movement lately. You've had some cars get canceled, like the Focus ST and Fiesta ST, but you've also had some new contenders like this Hyundai Veloster N. To be honest, I was never impressed with the previous version of this car, but as you'll see in this episode, a lot has changed.
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@nethanpetersen
@nethanpetersen 4 года назад
I’ve had the car 2 months, the exhaust still hasn’t gotten old lol
@BrittleTights
@BrittleTights 4 года назад
Had it since June. It never gets old. Every tunnel, every bit of high wall I drive by, the window goes down and I get the pops going.
@jonchicoine
@jonchicoine 4 года назад
All those fake exhaust pops would drive me crazy!
@andrews3137
@andrews3137 4 года назад
@@jonchicoine fake?
@jonchicoine
@jonchicoine 4 года назад
Andrew S yes, fake... not naturally occurring. Having said that, it’s not that it’s fake That bothers me... it would just get old I think. I have a Porsche that does something similar at the push of a button... and yes it’s kinda cool because it makes people on the street turn around when they hear it... but I keep it off 99% of the time.
@andrews3137
@andrews3137 4 года назад
@@jonchicoine I'm still confused by the fake part. The noise comes from intentionally delaying combustion, i.e. the noise comes from actual combustion: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ccMg-KzMgU8.html
@slocavky
@slocavky 4 года назад
Great review man. I enjoyed it. I am 35 and I have a red Veloster N. Freaking love it.
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
Enjoy!
@JuiceEasy
@JuiceEasy 4 года назад
I’m 35 and also have an N. good choice brotha!
@nurzrachit7133
@nurzrachit7133 4 года назад
Hahaha! Younglings! I'm 52 and I have been tearing up the back roads in middle Georgia since April in mine. Getting close to 10k Miles and this little bastard has taken it like a champ. Even commuting to work down the 65mph posted highway is a challenge to keep a lid on it, and I rarely do. I'm like a jet fighter pilot pulling up around crop dusters. Now that being said... I understand that this is not truly a FAST car, it's the handling I love. This car feels like it is an extension of my body and when I think something... It does it. Rapidly
@JuiceEasy
@JuiceEasy 4 года назад
Nurzrachit well said! And dido. Great buy
@mrk2ovtec
@mrk2ovtec 4 года назад
Tony Lester ehhhh tony whats up man 😂😂
@troy9er
@troy9er 4 года назад
Love the out takes at the end!!! I’m gonna get on of these in a year or so. Sold Hyundai’s for 5 years. I was with them when they launched the Veloster. Was really excited about the car, then it tanked in sales!!! Now they took it off the Accent platform and put it on the Elantra Sport platform. Adding the Albert Bierman factor made all the difference. Before I sold Hyundai’s I sold In the Luxury market for 15 years. Loved them, but in 2010 Luxury sales slowed down to a crawl. Then I saw the 2010 Sonata’s everywhere!! They were sexy looking and a fraction of the price of the Luxury brands! Made the move and never regretted it. I’m retired from car sales now but still miss it. Still visit my old dealer for service and on going friendship. I bought my wife an Elantra Limited before I retired. It has been an amazing car. In the last 50K Miles it has only needed tires, battery, front breaks, and regular oil changes. Very happy with my purchase. Subbing.
@mr.blonde1709
@mr.blonde1709 4 года назад
this car was just named Road & Track's "Performance Car of the Year".
@imtheonehero9305
@imtheonehero9305 3 года назад
bs. For a few grand more, the type r is a better car in everyway. People just hate the looks so it doesn't get the love it deserves.
@chancecornwell2698
@chancecornwell2698 3 года назад
ImtheONE Hero try like 10k +
@TheBruceWang
@TheBruceWang 3 года назад
@@imtheonehero9305 I think the type r does the whole daily driver/track beast the best, but I’d definitely take this sub 30k. Optional dct as well for under 35. I already have my Z for my manual enjoyment, but this would be great to just hoon without worrying about a new 3rd pedal.
@anengineerandacat
@anengineerandacat 3 года назад
@@imtheonehero9305 Yeah, you are right; the type-R is pretty ugly and has far less personality but the specs on it are great. The thing is though, Honda has been producing that for quite some time and this is Hyundai's first real attempt at a proper hot-hatch. The VN w/PP is without a doubt the best bang for overall buck for the segment, 10 year warranty, 5 year track warranty, 28k for the stick and 32-35k for the DCT. It's also a great beginner's car for anyone picking up stick, the rev-matching is incredibly good and the assistive start is always a welcoming reminder. Only real complaints is that the gearbox is kinda underwhelming for the manual, the Focus RS I learned on felt a fair bit better and my friends Type R doesn't feel like things are super loose; all things that can be improved on though and after a new rear motor mount it helped to stiffen things up. 5k+ miles in, a few issues with it but overall I still love my VN; hoping that one day they'll make an AWD variant to swap over too.
@trippleoseven
@trippleoseven 3 года назад
@@anengineerandacat the type R is beautiful in my opinion. Looks much better than any other hot hatch on the market.
@malcolmar
@malcolmar 4 года назад
Well done! My wife and I LOVE this car. This will be our next car. After driving a manual for most of my life, I really do miss it after buying an automatic. This Veloster N just looks like a fun car. Back in high school I had a Honda CRX. It was a sad day when I had to let that go. After the second engine swap, it did not make sense to keep it after it broke down again. In my opinion, this Veloster N is the spiritual successor to the Honda CRX AND is has a back seat AND that Hyundai 10 year/100,000 mile warranty! A 10 year warranty in a hot hatch. WOW. I am working right now to try to find a way to make this our second car. Again, thanks for the video and I will have to drive that road. when I get it. It is simply epic! BTW, Racing Blue is the color to get for this Veloster N.
@johnnydwyer4261
@johnnydwyer4261 4 года назад
Agree with most of what you said, except this car by far looks best in Black with the Red trim
@aaronreed9863
@aaronreed9863 3 года назад
I was just thinking the same thing the other day as i owned a crx si back in high school. I still have dreams about that car too. I was thinking wrx next, but i wanna drive a veloster n soon to see how fun it really is.
@malcolmar
@malcolmar 3 года назад
@@johnnydwyer4261 No worries. My old CRX was black.
@tommygarcia8010
@tommygarcia8010 2 года назад
It’s not racing blue it’s performance blue
@turbogeoduck
@turbogeoduck 4 года назад
"the valved exhaust, haha, I guess I'm a child" in the tunnel. HAHA, i guess that makes me a 55 year old child! This is my next ride!
@jasonburch3659
@jasonburch3659 4 года назад
Great review and your final thoughts answered so many questions I had.
@keithsa41
@keithsa41 4 года назад
This car is priced right and is my choice!
@shawnw8126
@shawnw8126 4 года назад
Excellent review!! As a guy that remembers when Hyundai debuted in this country and how dismal they were, i have to say they have rapidly improved.
@DaBrute
@DaBrute 4 года назад
Damn Matt Farah lost a lot of weight...
@PCGGC
@PCGGC 4 года назад
Picking mine up tomorrow! Got it WITH Performance Package for $27,500!!! Cheapest Civic Type R near me was $38,000 that's $10k difference. For $2k I can do intercooler, intake, downpipe (all self installed) and a tune and be close to 400BHP/320whp and 400wtq and still be $8k cheaper than a civic
@adangarza9176
@adangarza9176 3 года назад
Brand new??
@Daveyboy_GolfR
@Daveyboy_GolfR 2 года назад
Intake, Downpipe and tune (I.C doesn't increase power) will not get you anywhere near 400BHP in a VN (400TQ... maybe). Not all cars can make 400 HP with a simple DP and stg2 tune like the MQB GTI/Golf R/S3.
@jimmieromero8181
@jimmieromero8181 3 года назад
A very good thing they did was switching to a new designer and engineer. Kia/hyundai is doing some amazing things recently
@tmfeldman3990
@tmfeldman3990 4 года назад
Welcome to the party, nice of you to show up.
@davidx8152
@davidx8152 4 года назад
Thanks for another great review. Can I ask..how did you find your WRX STi? Have you driven a 2019 WRX? How would you compare both?
@bonifaciomagdiwang1697
@bonifaciomagdiwang1697 4 года назад
Waiting for the Veloster N DCT
@williamwolverton7965
@williamwolverton7965 3 года назад
It's been a year now, still isn't old
@gray7863
@gray7863 4 года назад
Good to see you back in CA driving on one of the few good roads we have and yes, for an adult the Civic Type R is too much........what was Honda thinking ? . Good review of what is becoming a super small market segment but one that a few car guys can still get excited about.
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
I wish I could be out there more! Thanks for the kind words. As you mentioned, it's a small market but important, hopefully people keep buying them so manufactures keep with producing these great cars.
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks 4 года назад
They're still doing $5k mark up on them too so it's $45k OTD car way too much
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks No freaking chance I'm paying $45k for a CTR. It's good, but that puts it in a whole other territory.
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks 4 года назад
@@EatSleepDrive agree I'm a Honda guy owned 100+ still no way I'm paying that. If the more base model comes out and it actually sells for $30k I'll bite
@skittlesrainbowunicorn6129
@skittlesrainbowunicorn6129 2 года назад
@@EatSleepDrive 45k is like 6 to 7 mark up... I paid a 2g mark up for my fk8, when I looked at the Veloster N it was a 7k mark up... if you don't like the way a type r looks you probably shouldn't be bragging on a car with a nonsymmetrical three doors...
@rrrrrrtt1
@rrrrrrtt1 4 года назад
Incredible video. Thanks for sharing.
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
Thank you!
@ravelerx
@ravelerx 3 года назад
I agree with basically everything you had to say. You know your stuff, and you perfectly captured the spirit and the philosophy of the car. I bought mine a month and a half ago. This amazing car is making me want to own more fun cars, but the reality is that we will all have trouble in finding something more fun than this at such an obtainable price. For me, the Veloster N beats the GTI and WRX at that $30K price point in performance value and fun factor all day long, which is what I want in a car. Thank you for posting this awesome video!
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 3 года назад
Thanks for the kind words Ryan!
@fullmetal1421
@fullmetal1421 2 года назад
would you buy the currently marked up veloster N or a GTI? I’m planning to tune either. I think GTI def has more potential.
@brolyv5802
@brolyv5802 4 года назад
The real GTI adversary is the Hyundai Elantra N (hatch) - they ahould release that in North America
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 4 года назад
it's the slower but better handling and much cheaper Civis SI 2 door coupe and 4 door sedan, and iof course VW's own Jetta GLI.
@eman3463
@eman3463 4 года назад
I'm assuming you are referring to the i-30N which is only available in Europe atm. The Elantra GT N is the American equivalent of the i-30N for us.
@desertoctane6444
@desertoctane6444 4 года назад
Uh...I own a Veloster N, Elantra N? NOT EVEN CLOSE LOL!
@ianmcculloch6839
@ianmcculloch6839 4 года назад
Ian D we should have the 30i, it’s only available in Europe, the Elantra N doesn’t quite beat the GTI.
@brolyv5802
@brolyv5802 4 года назад
Ian Mcculloch I have a 2018 Golf 1.8T manual, fun to drive concerned about reliability. If the Veloster N was available when I bought the Golf, I may have settled for the N. I am more confident in Hyundai reliablity vs german cars - though I own a golf and is financed.
@LuckyDogProductions
@LuckyDogProductions 4 года назад
The reason I GOT the 2012 Veloster is that I saw the new VW Scirocco in Europe, a VW exec told me they would never sell in the USA, because "America gets the crap VWs". The VELOSTER was a mix of the NEW Scirocco, VW Corrodo, 1988 Porch 944, all mixed in to one car.
@slackerman9758
@slackerman9758 4 года назад
I totally want the Scirocco in the USA, but all we get is boring SUVs.
@LuckyDogProductions
@LuckyDogProductions 4 года назад
@@slackerman9758 The German rep at the NYC auto show said they would not be able to sell anything else in the states if the Scirocco was here. If you get to drive in Europe you will see that our SPORT cars are regular cars in Europe and they are all Diesel - I asked why, they said because it is cheaper. The BMW M5 I was in was getting 55 miles per gallon.
@slackerman9758
@slackerman9758 4 года назад
@@LuckyDogProductions Thanks for the extra info. I drove a diesel GTI (GTD, I think) in Northern Italy and it was a blast! Pound-feet for miles (Newton meters for kilometers for you Francophiles). Great in the higher altitudes as well. Diesel per 100km, in Italy anyways, was quite a bit cheaper.
@LuckyDogProductions
@LuckyDogProductions 4 года назад
@@slackerman9758 I drove an 89 GTI in Germany in1993. 120 mph over long periods on the Autobaun is tiring, takes a lot of focus.
@generalexhibition
@generalexhibition 4 года назад
Overall nice video, but you made a huge deal of being a Volkswagenist in the introduction, then barely drew any comparisons to the Golfs at all - I was waiting the whole 16:09 : )
@skmk88
@skmk88 3 года назад
Maybe because it’s a video about the veloster N 🤣
@cosmicheretic8129
@cosmicheretic8129 3 года назад
Doesn't seem like he has experience with the mk 7 much so it's not really a comparison.
@ThatBustedVQ
@ThatBustedVQ 4 года назад
Hyundai has come a long way in the past 20 years
@eddiegray793
@eddiegray793 4 года назад
But have you driven the base model ? Want to see a head to head comparison pls
@AlexisB0
@AlexisB0 3 года назад
I love that the french subtitle says Aplaudissement that mean applause when the exhaust pop lol
@Tito53084
@Tito53084 Год назад
Hi everyone ! Do you have some advise to compare this care with the Ford Focus RS ?
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive Год назад
I've never driven a Focus RS, but I've ridden in one. And the only thing I can say for sure is the suspension of the RS is ridiculously firm, firmer than the N. And in my opinion not in a good way, it's far too harsh for the street for my liking at least.
@gavinj01
@gavinj01 4 года назад
Great review. One thing to note is that Hyundai warranty and quality are huge differentiators. I don't trust VW quality. I've owned later model Hyundais and they are bulletproof.
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
Thanks!
@Hboogie182
@Hboogie182 4 года назад
Bulletproof my ass. I've seen recent models spontaneously catch in fire. Korean engineering is not bulletproof. Just look at other Korean products like Samsung. Their phones blowup. I only trust Japanese engineering for reliability.
@jeremyhenry3126
@jeremyhenry3126 3 года назад
@@Hboogie182 LMAO samsung is japanese made ROFL
@matt34003434
@matt34003434 3 года назад
Jeremy Henry um, Samsung Group is a South Korean company.
@jeremyhenry3126
@jeremyhenry3126 3 года назад
@@matt34003434 Yeah I saw that later when looking it up to double check. I often get this confused because used to be a joint venture between Sony and Samsung same Co-owned if I'm not mistaken by Japan and Korea. With Japan having more to do with it's development than korea had at the time. Seems it's branched itself away from Japan since then and become just Samsung and korean owned majorly.
@bill7481
@bill7481 4 года назад
Great review, man! I totally agree with you on the styling of the Type R.
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
Thanks!
@PKAPE004
@PKAPE004 2 года назад
Could you please let me know the location of this road.
@mitchfortson8413
@mitchfortson8413 3 года назад
Im going to try and get it coming out of 2016 forte koup 1.6 T . Dont forget it has a great warranty
@popsandbangs8858
@popsandbangs8858 4 года назад
This guy saying everything right 🤥👏🏻 #claps
@ammireddy2
@ammireddy2 4 года назад
How is the clutch feel. Is it abrupt or gradual when releasing and where is thr engaging point. Can you please mention the same for all manual cars you test drive.
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
Clutch weight is medium, gradual release. The engagement point is fairly close to the floor, in fact I almost stalled it the first time I hopped in the car, wasn't expecting the release to be so low. It's totally fine once you're used to it.
@ammireddy2
@ammireddy2 4 года назад
EatSleepDrive cool, thanks for the reply !
@TheRabbitHasLanded
@TheRabbitHasLanded 4 года назад
If you aren’t careful you will stall but you can definitely feel it engage which i like a lot. Compared to the ctr I can’t even feel anything and it feels like just pressing a button to clutch
@karlhopkins713
@karlhopkins713 4 года назад
@@EatSleepDrive I'm a mustang guy and am used to the pedal release at the bottom, so that's good to know. I'm thinking about getting one of these in white as my next daily.
@2010ngojo
@2010ngojo 4 года назад
I think the car revs up slightly when you're about to bite the clutch. So you'll know when you're close.
@TopGear759
@TopGear759 4 года назад
Having driven both the diff on the GTI feels more natural. However one isn’t better than the other. For me I wanted an everyday car with 4 doors and I paid less for a new GTI Rabbit. Hyundai doesn’t seem to know how to market the N brand in the states. I’d definitely consider one after few years. When it comes to the ST my father owns one and it’s a car I just don’t like. It’s too nervous on the highway and the interior is poorly made for 26,000 car. But after 42,000 miles on the ford no major issues at all.
@slackerman9758
@slackerman9758 4 года назад
I like the extra space and the interior styling better on the VW, but the veloster is a blast to drive. The veloster gives up so much space that I would be left wondering why not get a mustang -- if you want performance, lousy rear seats and minimal rear storage...
@Stclairm1
@Stclairm1 4 года назад
I couldn't deal with my 14 FiST back in 14. The ride just killed me. I loved my 06 GTI 6M though and haven't driven one since that I like as much as I did that one. Too bad it was the rattle and creak master after one month. I love my 2017 Camaro SS 6M, I've had it almost 3 years now which is a record for me. Nice review, I might have to drive one. I think the only car quicker on a track is the Type R, and those are at least $8k more and too Shogun/Pokemon as you illustrated.
@Hot-1LE
@Hot-1LE 4 года назад
I was digging the hype for this car until I drove a veloster R. The interior was meh and for a big dude like me the tip of my foot kept hitting some wire harness below the dash (size 14 shoe). Never had that in any car before. Still excited to see people driving these. Only seen one on the road. It's a cool exclusive hot hatch
@octopushat
@octopushat 4 года назад
I only wear size 12, but was still having that issue with my foot hitting the stuff under the lower dash when I first got my N. It took about a week to dial in the perfect seating position, but I haven't had a problem with kicking those wires in 4 months, including plenty of high intensity driving, track days and AutoX.
@jeremyhenry3126
@jeremyhenry3126 3 года назад
You can't compare the Veloster N to a Veloster R two complete different beasts. The Velo N has a bit larger and better interior than the R. And is MUCH faster. Better handling. The front seats of the N can fit a 6' person. The back cannot.
@BrianJohnson-kh7mg
@BrianJohnson-kh7mg 4 года назад
I love Upper Big Tujunga. My fav road!
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
So many good roads around there. And since it's doesn't really lead anywhere, it was like 95% enthusiasts when I was there.
@dianmatthews2952
@dianmatthews2952 2 года назад
I LOVE this car. I'm old, been driving manuals all my life.....and if I had the money I would buy one of these tomorrow! Meanwhile I'll keep on driving my 2002 Honda Civic SI.
@mikesterloc
@mikesterloc Год назад
How old is old??
@CRKD-Mac
@CRKD-Mac 2 года назад
I would love to replace my 07 saab 9.3 with one of these. Great video my dude.
@glubibobi
@glubibobi 4 года назад
I’m a VW fanboy and currently have a Mk6 gti which I love but man I really like what Hyundai/Kia is doing right now. I would definitely look very hard at one of these if I was in the market for a car right now even though it would pain me to leave the VW community. Brands need to look at what they’re doing and start doing exciting stuff again. I hope people start getting over the stigma of buying a Hyundai because clearly they are making huge leaps. What I would love to see if Mazda put a turbo and IRS in the new Mazda 3 because that thing looks sexy.
@TidyBananas
@TidyBananas 4 года назад
Lots of N models coming, including a Sonata N that will be out in the the 3rd quarter of 2020
@glubibobi
@glubibobi 4 года назад
TidyBananas And that drift van they made 🤤. Car companies need to do more fun stuff like that.
@CrazyGreek80
@CrazyGreek80 4 года назад
I live in SoCal and this car would be so fun to drive along the PCH and the twistys.
@skippy11152
@skippy11152 4 года назад
I really wanted to own one of these, but I got a really good deal on a fiesta ST. No regrets yet!
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
Both great cars.
@robray7106
@robray7106 4 года назад
@Bob Hill Not comparing, just a statement. The FiST is not as refined, but it is loads of fun for less than 20K. I have a 2014 Fiesta ST.
@2010ngojo
@2010ngojo 4 года назад
@Bob Hill They are comparable in fun factor, so...its subjective
@joelabandeira9858
@joelabandeira9858 4 года назад
you should try a compare to the 250 hp n model to this optional 275 hp n model that you drive tested here
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
I'd like to, but for two grand it seems like a no brainier to spring for the performance pack model. In the grand scheme of 30k it's trivial and the LSD alone is worth the cost of entry.
@professorh8398
@professorh8398 4 года назад
How does it compare to the GTI Mk7 in terms of reliability and insurance cost?
@th33b33
@th33b33 4 года назад
David H'ee reliability is going in favor of Hyundai...VAG cars are fine when new or in warranty.
@phillipyau4234
@phillipyau4234 2 года назад
Hey what's happening I've purchase a 2020 Hyundai veloster turbo r spec I've changed out the Mufflers and exhaust tips it's loud enough for me and it sets off cars alarm lol but with this pandemic happened it's going be difficult for me to find a veloster N 👋👍🙂🚘🤣😅
@jacobreed47
@jacobreed47 4 года назад
Forgot to mention the 2k performance pack upgrades the power from 250-275 HP.
@wombat7366
@wombat7366 3 года назад
He talked about it, mentioned what was in it and why it was a good value for the money.
@gabrielliphotographics231
@gabrielliphotographics231 4 года назад
I know this video is for the N Series but I just wanted to say that I own the 2019 R-Spec and I absolutely LOVE this vehicle and I don't regret buying it. It also seems to be quite eye-catching to the female persuasion. lol
@asiagobagel8293
@asiagobagel8293 3 года назад
I totally agree with Hyundai's choice not to care too much about Nordschleife times and prioritizing the driving experience. I actually noticed there was no record of them testing the Veloster N there recently and thought it was strange, but now I know lol. That said, I've messed with a really high quality mod of the 2019 VN on Assetto Corsa's laser scanned Ring (real hp, weight numbers etc.) and I can tell you it is a sub 8:00 or even 7:50 car with a professional driver with racing tires (I've only managed to get 8:23). I'm sure the mod/sim doesn't replicate the real life suspension geometry perfectly, but I found the cornering speed and ease of getting close to the limit the best part of the car (like the type R). I'm sure in real life it's even better, because I've heard nothing but good things about the handling. Also does really well top speed wise and doesn't bog down like a Miata on the 3 uber long straights. But yeah, I have no doubt people are running sub 8 minutes.
@JeLifeCoach
@JeLifeCoach 3 года назад
Its an Ncredible car. Ive had mine for 3k miles and I love it. It handles superbly. It is not the most comfortable car but it is easily one of the most fun.
@redorange
@redorange 4 года назад
The blue color is because it’s the color chosen to signify the N division.
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
And that was a dumb choice.
@redorange
@redorange 4 года назад
EatSleepDrive opinions are like assholes everyone has one.
@curtiswaters7415
@curtiswaters7415 4 года назад
@@EatSleepDrive You're right. They should have done red stitching and red seat belts like everyone else. Give me a break, dude..
@techpappee
@techpappee 4 года назад
Exactly, not just copy everyone else aka *Red* . It's called performance blue, the launch color of all N vehicles. Hyundai does not use performance blue for the buttons in the I30N fastback though. Gosh that's a beautiful looking vehicle IMO.
@brent1835
@brent1835 4 года назад
@@EatSleepDrive oh its dumb... common man...farout..
@dylandetails361
@dylandetails361 4 года назад
Great video, and what a phenomenal car. I just bought a base Veloster with a manual. I drove the both N and the R spec, they were both fantastic, but at the end of the day, I wanted to pay in cash and the base model was still a lot of fun to drive.
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
Can't fault you for being responsible. I'd like to drive a base one to see what they're like.
@wildforthecats661
@wildforthecats661 4 года назад
I’m old, 60, but this car has peaked my interest. 😎
@danielchappell1672
@danielchappell1672 4 года назад
You're not old, and certainly not too old to get behind the wheel of one 😎
@helloim3j
@helloim3j 4 года назад
I don't mean to be a grammar nut. Just an FYI in case you're interested. It's "piqued."
@Maxfli82
@Maxfli82 4 года назад
Hey, it’s a great mid-life crisis car and you won’t feel as ridiculous as being seen in the Type-R 😎
@lillemon6381
@lillemon6381 3 года назад
I'm 68 and just got my 2021 veloster n with dct a week ago and I'm loving it! You are never too old to enjoy this car. 👍😆
@ronaldcreighton3289
@ronaldcreighton3289 2 года назад
I'm 61. I'm picking mine up Saturday in Florida six-speed manual competition blue Grandpa going to be riding in a cool car
@TheWatzitooya
@TheWatzitooya 4 года назад
No one ever compares it directly to the Focus ST, which is the closest other thing to it, in my opinion. Yes, the Focus ST isn't coming to the States anymore, but this car would be the natural replacement for one. You get car that's 100% usable day-to-day, but that sacrifices some comfort, interior quality, and practicality to be a VERY capable performer. It's like a slightly less compromising GTI, which is exactly what the Focus ST was.
@Chewygsxr
@Chewygsxr 4 года назад
Arthur Robinson I have the Fiesta ST and love it, I’m glad he gave it Kudos.
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 4 года назад
Yes Focus ST and it seems this one both target and nailed great sound and since audio doesn't get any love by the manufacturers now, drivers are left with just the engine to listen to now. Make it sing!
@jeremyhenry3126
@jeremyhenry3126 3 года назад
You said it. Perfectly said.
@hohil12
@hohil12 4 года назад
Just the diff. Just once, just to see how it feels.
@mbardos
@mbardos 4 года назад
The GTI has an optional PP too, with a similar diff. Then there is the Leon Cupra, coming standard with it (not in the US though). I own a Cupra, it feels awesome, but scary at times too, it does pull the wheel at certain situations.
@arthurmroyce
@arthurmroyce 2 года назад
I have a 2020 VN w/PP. I love this car!
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 2 года назад
Great choice! I have a video coming out this week with the new Elantra N as well.
@dorkultra
@dorkultra 4 года назад
I have a mk7.5 golf R with a tuned DSG and I want the veloster N as a fun daily
@jeremyhenry3126
@jeremyhenry3126 3 года назад
Until you tune the Velo N after a tune that thing becomes absolutely nuts. Barrel of friggin wtf.
@MrSupersixfour
@MrSupersixfour 4 года назад
I enjoy wipping smiles off gti v dubs in my i30n 😁😁😁
@noscrubbubblez6515
@noscrubbubblez6515 4 года назад
i'm still happy with my turbo 2013 model. the one sports mode is all i need for dazzle-dazzel burning silicon/japanese rubber. they also paid off on the false 24 MPG claim and credited me with $577. if the N model ever comes out with no clutch, i'm in.
@marki61422
@marki61422 4 года назад
Learn to drive a manual dude
@karlhopkins713
@karlhopkins713 4 года назад
Manual is so much more fun bud, and will last longer then a dct. Hyundai has barely any experience with a dct, so I'd be worried about the clutches burning.
@Numbzy14
@Numbzy14 4 года назад
Even though the interior is not that good, I am sure the support for this car is gonna be strong with all the goodies to make ur car a bit better or luxurious
@phillipyau4234
@phillipyau4234 Месяц назад
Hello awesome car I've purchased a Hyundai veloster turbocharged r spec I've changed out the Mufflers & it's all the pop's & gurgling & burbling 😊❤
@TougeSolo
@TougeSolo 4 года назад
If Toyota will release a GRMN Version of the the Corolla Hathcback in the states (since they didn't give us the GRMN Yaris) I think they could really get this market stirred up. A supercharged version of the Corolla with some better suspension and a LSD would be an amazing. It's already a great car stock, and really good with RSR springs and sticky tires.
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
The more players the better.
@MrMcTavishOBS
@MrMcTavishOBS 4 года назад
I love the look of the new corolla hatchback but my biggest gripe is that it looks waaay faster than it actually is.
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 4 года назад
Tim Riener I agree with you, Tim! My two gripes were: Audio the worst/infotainment ugly & the sluggish throttle response. On the other hand, the ride and handling were far above the class pretty much Lexus-like! The rest of the interior looks keen. Compared to Civic though, you lose 2-3 inches in rear area. I think if they improved the audio and also engine sound with real exhaust tips and you felt a better tuned power delivery, the Corolla could sell way more hatches
@tomtom255
@tomtom255 4 года назад
I look at this car as a more refined and higher quality Focus ST. You are paying for the suspension/chassis/tuning, brakes, engine. Not fancy (useless dash iPad) tech and interior materials. I've had three generations of GTI's and they were great cars but slightly sterile, I've had a Focus and Fiesta ST that were great to drive but the paint started to fall off after 2 years. If I were in the market for a car right now I'd be looking at one of these.
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
Totally agree.
@isabelle.c011
@isabelle.c011 4 года назад
Higher quality? The n looks so cheap in so many places the st is much nicer imo
@tomtom255
@tomtom255 4 года назад
@@isabelle.c011 Looks can be deceiving. Give it a year, the paint will be bubbling off the Ford products. I had a 13 Focust ST and a 16 Fiesta ST. While I loved them because of the driving experience they both developed rust on the door/hatch/hood seams after less than two years. Something my 20 year old Honda does not exhibit. Totally unacceptable on a near 30k dollar car (Focus with leather recaro seats) I'll never buy another Ford product.
@isabelle.c011
@isabelle.c011 4 года назад
tomtom255 i have a 16 st admittedly the paint is an issue but ive fixed it myself here and there over the years with single stage paint match spray paint and good detailing techniques and i am foST fan boy and you can fit 3 in the rear vs the n the FoST is not dead Yet lol
@tomtom255
@tomtom255 4 года назад
@@isabelle.c011 Yeah like I said I loved both of the cars and I never had a single mechanical issue. It's really disappointing because other than the corrosion issue they are great little cars. I wonder if the RS has similar issues because those are built in Germany instead of USA(Focus) or Mexico(Fiesta)
@jnagime
@jnagime 4 года назад
At 40 years old and 2 kids I want a Veloster N. 03-350z 16-Q50 RedSport owner.
@Ji9303
@Ji9303 4 года назад
I traded my 2006 350z for a 2020 veloster N and I have no regrets. The 350z was awesome too though
@Maxfli82
@Maxfli82 4 года назад
Biermann did a good job with a budget car architecture
@mccaslin
@mccaslin 4 года назад
I laughed when he said the type r styling is a bit rediculous. I tend to agree lol. Some would say obnoxious lol. Still love the type R (only been in as a passenger)
@jeremyhenry3126
@jeremyhenry3126 3 года назад
I don't mind Honda when Honda was Honda. But whatever they did to this Type R it's hideous. It's like someone let one of those hobos off the street holding a "The End is NIGH!" sign hopped up on Acid design that thing. The giant wing. No. Just no. The 3 tipped exhaust... extra no... extra hell no. The only thing they really did right on the Type R was that it was still spiritually a successor of Honda by having a Vtec engine. Anything else with those craptastic non vtec engines with the tiny turbos. Don't even know what that junk is.
@drumflip1253
@drumflip1253 Год назад
Own one love it. Have owned so many hot hatches and this one is the funnest most adjustable riot you can have for 33k
@paintedbird6791
@paintedbird6791 4 года назад
"I am a child" yes, you are a good child. Got me to subscribe and give you a thumbs up kind of good child.
@MITZ-cx4je
@MITZ-cx4je 2 года назад
If you want to get rid of that lag, have it reflash/remapped… i guess its not turbo lag, its the delay on your pedal👍👍👍
@crxkid16
@crxkid16 4 года назад
Honda has been making their SiR and Type R models rotate since the early 90’s if you get a chance to drive an Integra Type r you’ll see.
@Chewygsxr
@Chewygsxr 4 года назад
I love the way he gave Kudos to the Fiesta ST, I have a 14 ST With 73,000+ miles on it and it’s running strong, what a fun car to drive and with a few mods make them even more enjoyable.
@cdpgbc-mw2kz
@cdpgbc-mw2kz 4 года назад
mike chavez....and Ford North America, in their infinite stupidity, have cancelled the Focus and Fiesta. Check out the all new 2020 ST on sale in Europe......and to cap it off, check out the ST wagon. Only in Europe, what a shame. Lets not forget the all new Fiesta ST......
@jonathandoe69
@jonathandoe69 4 года назад
@@cdpgbc-mw2kz 90% of Ford's North American sales are from trucks. It's unfortunate but I wouldn't call it stupid.
@cdpgbc-mw2kz
@cdpgbc-mw2kz 4 года назад
@@jonathandoe69 : Thanks for the reply. Yes, you make a good point. I live in Canada and the price of gas is much higher here in the USA. It is beyond me why so many people are buying full size pick ups, SUVS, etc. I just do not like the fact that the masses of unsophisticated vehicle buyers impact what I am able to purchase.
@derekintrovert5619
@derekintrovert5619 4 года назад
@@cdpgbc-mw2kz I agree
@Gonzo1968
@Gonzo1968 4 года назад
I'm 51 and am considering getting one myself. Just seems like a fun little car for the price.. Glad the wing isn't huge either. Lol
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
I think you'll be happy with it!
@MusicalManchild77
@MusicalManchild77 3 года назад
Where was this Drive Filmed? It's a Beautiful Place!
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 3 года назад
Angeles Forest, CA
@MacTechG4
@MacTechG4 4 года назад
As a VW Golf fan, I’m really liking what I’m seeing here, I love the crackle of the exhaust, and it looks like it’ll handle quite well as well And the fact it’s still available with a manual transmission is bonus points, automatics suck When my TDI Golf eventually dies, a good used Veloster N manual will be on the short list :)
@jakeritter2317
@jakeritter2317 4 года назад
I've wanted to like this car for years. If it had either 4 doors or 2 doors I think I would.
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
Depends how you look at it. Just look at it as a 2 door, that happens to have a bonus door..
@jeremyhenry3126
@jeremyhenry3126 3 года назад
Yeah seriously you don't really notice the 3rd door. It's kind of silly to dismiss it just cause it has 3 doors. I can understand wanting 4 doors if you planned to have roadtrips and take people and need the space. But if you're just looking for sporty and compact then it literally makes no difference that it has a 3rd door.
@archaotist3365
@archaotist3365 3 года назад
Got the car without perf package solely because I didn't want bigger brakes. Wish the diff was offered separate. Even still, the car as is is fantastic.
@2010ngojo
@2010ngojo 3 года назад
You were better off with the performance pack and then replace the front brakes.
@Ji9303
@Ji9303 4 года назад
People keep saying this is a perfect young person's car but only 1% of young people can drive stick. I'm 40 and I love my veloster N with pp
@OlJackBurton
@OlJackBurton 4 года назад
There's an available DCT...
@jeremyhenry3126
@jeremyhenry3126 3 года назад
Majority of young people can't. Probably never will. The ones that learn it I respect. Because those are the people who learn how to drive ANYTHING.
@2010ngojo
@2010ngojo 3 года назад
I doubt the the older generation would be any better? Younger people tend to be into cars (I believe), so it would sense for them to learn or want to learn how to drive a manual.
@jeremyhenry3126
@jeremyhenry3126 3 года назад
@@2010ngojo That statement makes no sense to me. Because we ALL used to be young once. So at one point we were all into cars. Some of us into newer cars and some into the older gen cars. Even though we have grown older some of us don't grow out of liking cars.
@terrancemoore496
@terrancemoore496 4 года назад
Well you 32. You are still young. You need to live a little and stop taking yourself too seriously. Nothing is wrong with the Type R. I am tired of hearing of critics dumping on the Type-R. If the looks too radical then get the Si. Other that Awesome review.
@jeremyhenry3126
@jeremyhenry3126 3 года назад
No more tired than people who like the veloster N are of hearing the same damn tired tirade of "It looks stupid." or "I don't like that it has 3 doors." Like that makes any damn difference. Or "It's not RWD." Or. "It's not AWD." or "It's interior is CHEAP! I demand extravagance!" It was designed to be fun and affordable to MANY! And frankly it is unique you don't see anything else on the road looking like this. It definitely turns heads and gets compliments. JUST like other cars do.
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 3 года назад
I love the way these cars look. The pops need an ON OFF switch. I would not want that normally or ever. But the exhaust system sounds good like the Ford Focus ST which sounded good but not as good. As far as the Civic Type R looks. It is the best looking car from Honda for sure and for the money as well. Everything is pretty functional unlike Kia Stinger and Toyota Supra. All those scoops are fake. Nothing is fake in the Civic. The rear wing functions very well: I don't see why the hate. Is it envy? It is semi-wide body at the wheels. The exterior has a lot of awesome features. I only find the 20 inch tires absurdly low profile.
@Mertusa
@Mertusa 4 года назад
Where was the location for this test drive so beautiful roads
@cindysue5474
@cindysue5474 4 года назад
Wish it did have the tips coming out the middle though.
@baronrichmond5667
@baronrichmond5667 4 года назад
Thank god you brought up the blue interior. No other reviewers have and I think it's hideous. Will show dirt and grime over the years. The R-Spec has yellowish interior detailing and a short throw shifter, not sure why they can't put that into the higher priced and performanced N model.
@jeremyhenry3126
@jeremyhenry3126 3 года назад
If they had put yellow in my Veloster N. would've ripped it out and replaced it IMMEDIATELY. Hideous.
@americanAlienBoy
@americanAlienBoy 4 года назад
FWD cars which rotate isn't anything new. Minis always liked to rotate. My '88 Integra definitely liked to. I gotta say: my son has a current gen Veloster Turbo, and I was pretty impressed by it. If my M2 got totalled tomorrow, I'd at least give the N a test drive.
@davidking4686
@davidking4686 4 года назад
Ended up getting an Autobahn GTI and just tuning it. Need a backseat too much to justify the weird 3rd door thing. Wish i30N had been an option.
@cosmicheretic8129
@cosmicheretic8129 3 года назад
The DSG was a must have for me so I got an Autobahn mk7.5. Love it as I've owned VW and Audi before.
@Kiss__Kiss
@Kiss__Kiss 4 года назад
Just like there are reviewers which copy SaabKyle04's style to a Tee, I feel this review was pretty much a replica of The Smoking Tire's "One Take." Now I am sure some will say, "Copying, is a form of flattery."
@jeremyhenry3126
@jeremyhenry3126 3 года назад
Everything copies from something quite often. Many things are built upon the foundations of those that came before who initially first discovered or created.
@lenwoodcruze3594
@lenwoodcruze3594 4 года назад
Cars in this class are soo good nowadays that it's hard to choose in my opinion.....but I am focused on anything from VAG first.
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 4 года назад
gti is more practical
@jeremyhenry3126
@jeremyhenry3126 3 года назад
@@jeffk464 It is. It's very refined and nice interior. But very boring.
@travisburch4907
@travisburch4907 4 года назад
Great review, definitely. I think the Veloster N is a fantastic car; however a big thing you pointed out is the space and roominess in the car itself. More so how it’s non-existent in the back. That was and still is a huge reason I own a GTI; and will trade for another one when the time is right. I know the N has a much better diff and much more power with a better turbo, but I still prefer the quirkiness of the GTI. Plus, in the event I get ready to have kids, I know I would want an automatic (currently in a 6MT) so I could be more attentive/trade off driving with the wife. I could get a DSG, and reliably tune the motor/transmission and make more power over stock. If I could have gotten my hands on the i30N, it wouldn’t be a question; but I’ve said that in the comment sections on another video. I’m 31, and I prefer a more adult styled vehicle. I don’t care for the edgy-teenage-midlife-crisis designs of the Civic Type R, Focus RS, or even this car, the Veloster. If I needed that I’d grab a Miata 30th ann in that bright orange color.
@8bvg300
@8bvg300 4 года назад
Rotating is a new trend in fwd... If you're from europe, that's nothing new. We had a slew of awesome 80's hot hatches that would lift off oversteer. You just missed out on them
@DudeStone
@DudeStone 4 года назад
The exhaust engineers loved "CLICK BANG BANG" by 3-6 Mafia way too much lol
@kevinevringham7640
@kevinevringham7640 3 года назад
You mention driving it in Normal and N but do not mention custom. Did you know you can customize N mode to reduce the chassis stiffness but maintain the throttle response, improved e-LSD performance, etc? Almost every N owner drives 99% of the time in such N custom with the above settings.
@mrtony3729
@mrtony3729 4 года назад
I was Sold till you used the word 'Lag'! Does the VW Gti have lag also?
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
The GTI spools quicker but runs out of steam at the top end.
@dougashby5679
@dougashby5679 4 года назад
EatSleepDrive no sir it does not with apr stage 2 when im bus lengths pullin on 40k tuned slow stis 😂😂 #rollinracegangster 🤣
@mrhawk1924
@mrhawk1924 4 года назад
Wow. I have the veloster turbo Hyundai on my channel. 2016
@vxu3826
@vxu3826 4 года назад
Sounds fucking killer!!! Wow!! I had to spend a lot of money on my 370z to get it to pop like that. Cars a bit out of my price range but when that depreciation hits i might consider it
@billymcrae99
@billymcrae99 3 года назад
to anyone who owns the car with the performance package. how is the FWD? how does it handle on tight mountain roads (or track) the only turnoff for me is the fact that its front wheel drive.
@2010ngojo
@2010ngojo 3 года назад
It handles about as well as a civic type r, apparently. And you should know how good the the type r is. A little more nose heavy than the type r though, so hard braking is somewhat iffy.
@dougmaverick3287
@dougmaverick3287 4 года назад
All the blue accents the buttons and the belts are because that's Hyundais signature colour buddy look it up
@thooke222
@thooke222 4 года назад
I've had my eye on these, for the used market when they become less expensive. I predict Hyundai will stop offering the non performance package Veloster N in future years. For now I will continue enjoying my 2014 Focus ST!
@MrMcTavishOBS
@MrMcTavishOBS 4 года назад
Widget222 when I see one for sale that isn’t a performance pack I’m like why even bother?
@KuSQ3N
@KuSQ3N 4 года назад
yeah same for me I will wait for 1-2 years because they will make AWD and automatic
@tannerrogers9841
@tannerrogers9841 4 года назад
@@KuSQ3N hopefully AWD and manual 😍 give Subaru a competitor
@KuSQ3N
@KuSQ3N 4 года назад
@@tannerrogers9841 yeah that Would be sick, a good looking and reliable subaru 😉
@MJT-DA
@MJT-DA 4 года назад
@@KuSQ3N they're testing an i30n with AWD in the UK which is based the veloster but with 4 doors instead of 3.
@lj555551
@lj555551 4 года назад
So how does the performance package give you extra hp everything you listed would not increase hp at all
@WeShallBeFreeAtLast
@WeShallBeFreeAtLast 4 года назад
Shh. It doesn't actually have any more hp. There's been tons of dyno testing done at this point, and they all show the same graph regardless of performance package. Hyundai just underrated the non-PP the same way AMC and other manufacturers used to do back in the day.
@lj555551
@lj555551 4 года назад
@@WeShallBeFreeAtLast I mean the electronic slip diff is definitely worth it anyway for the pp but yeah I just dont see how they could increase the hp unless they just gave it a different map for the engine but damn I wish I had that extra hp or is all veloster n 275hp
@jeremyhenry3126
@jeremyhenry3126 3 года назад
@@lj555551 It actually does increase the hp not because of what they add to it. I talked with a few people at hyundai about it. The increase is due to re calibration of the engine. But none of this matters as ALL future veloster N will be standard with this from factory. Only the 2019 and 2020 models seemed to have been optional about it.
@lj555551
@lj555551 3 года назад
@@jeremyhenry3126 thank wish they would have made that clear so we wouldn't be thinking it was bs ....i figured it was re mapping the engine or a lie ether way still love my n but thx now I no i will spread the word thats how they got more hp
@jeremyhenry3126
@jeremyhenry3126 3 года назад
@@lj555551 Yep np. Mine was a showroom model so I didn't get to have the Performance Pack but they said I can bring it in pay the 2100 + labor and they'll put it in. So anyone who is non Performance pack need not worry you can get it put in. And that came from Hyundai corporate. I called them to ask.
@SirtubalotTX
@SirtubalotTX 4 года назад
Good review but I'm more interested in comparing this with a Focus ST than the Fiesta.
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
I used to own a Fiesta ST, so look back at my old videos for information on them. Overall, the Veloster N is going to be more expensive, but it has a much nicer interior and the ride quality is far superior. That was my biggest complaint of the Fiesta. The Fiesta is a great fun car, but the Veloster is overall better.
@jeremyhenry3126
@jeremyhenry3126 3 года назад
I owned a 17' Focus ST and compared to the Velo N. The Velo is quicker. Turns sharper. Faster. Hugs the corner better. Rides better. Puts power down better. The focus is pure aggression. It's all torque steer. Sure you can mod the Focus to put power down better and handle a bit better. Yet after modding the N you still wouldn't match the N for handling. And that electronic LSD is insane. Not to mention the Focus does NOT have auto rev match like the N. So unless you're a heel toe god. And even if you can heel toe well. You will NEVER be as good as the Veloster N's auto rev match. I promise you that one.
@SirtubalotTX
@SirtubalotTX 3 года назад
@@jeremyhenry3126 I don't have wheel time yet in a Velo N but I plan on it soon because I may grab one. I had a Focus ST and LOVED it... one of the best handling cars I've ever driven...and the ride was not bad by any stretch of the imagination. Keep in mind I don't care about torque steer and think people make a bigger deal out of it than it really is. (Only complaint was the wheel hop but that was not a difficult fix). With that said, The Veloster N is bad arse and on my short list.. I'm very glad that Hyundai stepped up and put it out there. If the N is as good in the handling department as you say, I will definitely probably be back here updating this comment. ;)=
@jeremyhenry3126
@jeremyhenry3126 3 года назад
@@SirtubalotTX You can take some sharp turns doing 60 mph and it HUGS the road it actually turns in sharp.
@zakura70jr
@zakura70jr 4 года назад
This car is awsome but cant wait for the 2021 sonata N... 2.5L T and has 290hp hopefully it comes in a manual
@jeremyhenry3126
@jeremyhenry3126 3 года назад
Kia Stinger 3.3L twin turbo 386 hp AWD
@josephbrown5566
@josephbrown5566 4 года назад
Waiting to see how the aftermarket does... i love my big turbo focus st for now... but, this car makes me question lol
@tomdubois3062
@tomdubois3062 4 года назад
If I knew about this car I would have waited before purchasing my focus st.
@josephbrown5566
@josephbrown5566 4 года назад
i have a 16 fost ... wasnt around when i got my car lol
@tomdubois3062
@tomdubois3062 4 года назад
Joseph Brown I was referring to myself
@wowsplat
@wowsplat 4 года назад
I hear BisiMoto is going to be releasing a boat load of mods for this
@mrunabout
@mrunabout 4 года назад
Hyundai is also working on a mid-engine car. It might have a hybrid drivetrain up front, though. So, a Hyundai variant of the new NSX.
@mitchfortson8413
@mitchfortson8413 3 года назад
Love mine
@Neptune8
@Neptune8 2 года назад
I think Hyundai should have color matched the seat belts, also performance blue is the best color
@mdcohen
@mdcohen 4 года назад
I get that the favorable comps to FieST an FoST puts this in good company. Having said that those are real cheap used now. There’s a lot of cars with four seats that aren’t hot hatches, Camaro SS, E46 M3, E9x M3. For $30k and four seats what would you get? I get that comparing new vs used is always a little unfair.
@EatSleepDrive
@EatSleepDrive 4 года назад
As you mentioned comparing new vs used is tough, to me it always favors used, which is why I basically only buy used cars. Out of all those you listed, I think if you peep my channel you'll see what I'd choose.... :
@mdcohen
@mdcohen 4 года назад
EatSleepDrive I’ve watched your channel a ton but I’m drawing a blank on your thoughts on these three. You’re gonna make me wat he all you videos huh?