Here's Why Everybody Hates the 2000 Mercedes-Benz S-Class W220 

Facts. Was baller af like any current gen models: When you're current and top no one hating other than lower folk, and f them anyhow cause they're hating for what they don't have

That settles it!

Exactly! Idk why he paints the w220 to be a critically panned car that everyone hated the minute it went on sale. The S-class has always been and always will be the benchmark, and the w220 is no exception. He has such a stupid, myopic, and biased take on the S-class and yet he gushes about all the tech and innovations. He and a few others might not like this generation of S-Class nowadays, but this era of Mercedes was ICONIC, and I *guarantee* you they were singing a different tune back in the day.

It looks better than latest (2021) s class. Doug is too judgemental.

@@supermilkchan123 i mean, you pretty much laid it out, i don't know anyone that hates the w220, this is the first im hearing of it

Be me:

@@thomaskoutsoukis8976 I'm sorry m8

@@therealmudafuka7200 And I recently bought it too... But, I love the styling, I got a diesel so it's kinda economic, and I have all the good extras. Oh and, the car has no rust, so I'm happy.

@@thomaskoutsoukis8976 I had the twin turbo s600 and couldn't imagine a diesel lol hows the power ???

@@thomaskoutsoukis8976 it is a good car especially the Diesel version.

You’d recommend buying the s600 2001 v12?

​@@capps s600 is trap, s500 is better

​@capps yeah id go with the s500

@@mariocarreno95 how about the s430? I’m having a hard time finding the s500 so might check the 430 out. Is it as reliable as the 500?

@jellyjam5338 id say so, its mainly just a difference in the engine

Because it is

One is the nicest looking cars idk how Doug dosnt see that this car is sick looking Benz and Lexus make bangers

Eqs is so trash looking

It definitely aged better than the EQS

@@michaelplace4754 Look at the rear fenders and roof, all one piece. This thing is so beautiful in person.

@@resikchanel843 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JwncAQurlqk.html

you "OWNED" it. Thats says everything right there/./

I currently have an S55. I love the car

Awesome. It's cool how many of the features lasted and set the standard for future cars. Unfortunately I don't think that can be said for the new S-class, which is mostly gimmicks that won't last.

I owned a mortgage company around this time and I had a bank rep that bought an S430 but put an S600 badge on the back and it always made me laugh at how ridiculous he was. Thanks for the memories Doug👍

The hate is from the "car community" who see third and fourth owners completely ignore the maintenance and upkeep required on a vehicle like this. I sense there's a bit of disguised racism and classism as well.

it just looks really lame

@@panameadeplm But we are talking about W220 and not Tesla.

@@DctorSkillz1 are you for real?

@@DctorSkillz1 disguised racism? WTF?

rustbuckets (some had door replacements under warranty for rust issues) with biodegrading wiring harness, 12pack coil unit on each side, early years airmatic and a bunch more early 2k mercedes trivia.

Really besides the active body control system it’s decently reliable

A CL from the same generation looks 100x better. Although I don’t hate the S class

@@sylvianblade75 That CL is incredible! The 65 is a dream car!

Never. The w210 is far superior, no Airbags, and to me the fit and finish on the 210 is better…I dunno though, I may be biased due to my daily driver AMG 210. As it is, just hit 100k mileage (super low for year 2000), and all the pixels on the dash work…a rarity in these models.

@@Acs2046 I loved mine. The vacuum locking fuel door was a pain.

@Alex Fracyon did u just say it looked better than W140? Like no way

@@detonater1348 this is better than w211 I own one same silver. build quality is ass

This is actually my favorite S class ever! It looks better in and out than the w140. And the interior is more durable than that of the w221-222 etc. The w220 is just the right S class. I just don't understand why people say that it's the worst ever... It's actually the best in my opinion. It doesn't try to hard, and that what speaks to me. 1. W220 2. W140 3. W221 4. W222 5. THE DISPOSABLE W223

@@detonater1348 , I think this looks a lot better than the W140. That previous gen had very awkward lines.

Absolutely love it too...I think it looks stunning.

I disagree it looks like a blobby piece of shit

My 2006 s350 has 300k and rolling strong

📠

For sure

Yes the ride is by far the best part about this car. I think it’s got the most controlled ride quality of the entire S-class line, totally absorbing potholes and speed bumps while maintaining good cornering grip. If I needed one car to go through the most pothole ridden city, it would be this one. That’s the benefit of air suspension.

Could not agree more. The W220 is a beautiful Mercedes.

not really a timeless dedign....

Pretty sure it was because the W220 he reviewed was in better shape than the W140 he reviewed

He was mostly hating on the Styling and Quality. Other than that everything was still a step forward it seems

@@owennilens8892 I personally dont mind the styling. It's not the worst

@@owennilens8892 I actually prefer the styling of this to the W140 and W221. It's simple enough without looking bloated. And the W140 looks too boxy, IMO.

After 2007 the s class are straight garbage

Depending on what engine you have there are at least 12 issues that can completely render you car useless that will happen including the gearbox, the abc controls, the ignition coils, the diff ...

I have the 2006 S500 4matic and the car has been superb (only 200K Kms or 125K miles). I too am a wrencher and the only issue has been the fussy air suspension but, not of the type of hiccups that would leave any one stranded. Generally speaking, a key cycle gets rid of any "visit workshop" error code that the air suspension may produce from time to time (to be on the safe side I put a new compressor in, they are not expensive). This is a go anywhere, anytime car.

What engine did yours have?

@@the007connoisseur The m112 engine : 3.2 liters with 6 cylinders. I live in Europe where this engine suits perfectly.

@@greathey1234 no clue what you’re talking about. Having owned the 430 ABC and 500 Airmatic variant I’ve had no issues mechanically. Like op stated just regular maintenance. The Daimler era was the most reliable. The 722.X transmissions and M11X engines were the best. Although I cannot say for the V12 (haven’t had the opportunity yet) Having owned the 2001 SLK230 (172k mi) 2001 S430 (200k mi) 2002 S500 (94k mi) 2003 CLK500 (140k mi) 2003 SL500 (165k mi) 2001 C320 (175k mi) 2002 C320 (84k mi) I cannot stress enough to buy these beautiful machines. Or better yet! Don’t so they stay terribly cheap to buy still! 😂

Haha thats the one!

It is not RR or Bentley, but luxury does go forward from car series to the next one so that is normal. You need to compare it to BMW from that time.

I was thinking the exact same thing...also, have you seen the Interior materials?? The stitching?? The leather and napa??? How on earth is that low quality?

ye idk what he's on about with low quality and most hated, those where the times and it was extremely advanced and luxurious like he later showed in the video

The W140 development started 1986. 12 years prior the W220 was published

This is a gorgeous S-class, specially the rear end.

This is one of my favorite Mercedes-Benz ever, if not one of my favorite sedans ever built. It's a shame that people dislike the car, especially considering that the original Maybach was built on this cars' platform.

@@MazharHuq The original Maybach (W240) was based on the larger W140 platform, rather than the smaller W220 platform.

@@yungboicontigo9278 its the circle(jerk) of life(or car enthusiasts)

@@sultanqasim It was based on both almost equally, actually

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W140 had soft closing doors as well and 1995 Honda CR-V had bigger navigation screen with remote controls

Well, to be fair, Lincoln and Cadillac were starting to focus their attention on something more visually game-changing at the time, SUV's. The Escalade and the Navigator were the talk of the town back then and Mercedes didn't really take their SUV's very seriously at the time with the ML and G series vehicles.

Looks ok….. not a great S class but a decent car

I’m disappointed in Doug’s negative view of the w220. They were so nice back when they came out and were so much nicer than any of the competition.

@@yungboicontigo9278 Not according to the guy who designed it, bro. Mr. Sacco stated the W140 turned out "about 4" too tall", and he was very proud when he was able to correct that with the W220.

The headlight are really weird. Considering Mercedes Benz at the time are more well known for the dual round headlights that was started on W210 E-class

Yeah. It looks way better than the newer models yet the previous one looks quite dated now.

i've had one for over a decade and LOVE IT !

I recall the E-class that came out at around the same time period (W210-211) also had a more rounded design than its predecessor, before reverting to a more boxy design in 2009

@@lzh4950 The W210 was a very weird styling change from the W124 E Class it replaced and my scorn for it resides squarely on the headlights. The round lights are just plain weird! The W211 did a much better job but, IMO, they didn't get the E-Class right again until the W212.

Then gives it 5 out 10 for features...

@@mp4986 I know made no sense!

This is why I watch this channel : not for advice or opinion or score...etc ! juste curiosity about the cars ! lol

Uncommon doesn't equal good, and features aren't everything. As for 5/10 rating, if you haven't noticed, Doug rates all cars by modern day standards. Sure, if we still were in 2001, it would probably get 9 or even 10 for features, but we're in 2022. My moms car has some of those "amazing and futuristic" features, despite it isn't brand new and is just a small crossover. This does make sense for easy comparison of cars from different eras without some "era-bias".

@@mp4986 that I understand because he always reviews by todays perspective, but it’s just funny

Me to idk what drugs is talking about

I drive my cars until they are like Flintstones mobiles!!! (

That's because these don't need most of the electrical subsystems to run (interior luxury amenities, etc.). Bolian's S55 had ABC which is the most unreliable part of them. If it's a non-AMG airmatic car the basic pneumatic system is far more reliable, cheaper, and easier to work on. Most reliable S-Class generation mechanically.

Definitely a waste of money. If people didn't have such a sensitive rear maybe they could save a few thousand dollars.

I had a 2004 e320 with the famed air suspension, it eventually broke of course, replaced it with coils and it was so much better.

@@703fishing3 Really? Most people say the opposite?

@@Ummmmmkay88 Strutmasters make an incredible one, you can buy the bc ones but they're built for performance not every day driving so they are of course rough. The strutmasters are what I had and that thing rode like a bentley after that.

@@703fishing3 Awesome I’ll check it out. Thanks

Exactly

A Yugo looks better than EQS.😂

It looks like a poor man’s Russian mafia mobile

Agreed, and I like this body style much more than the succeeding generation that came out in 2007.

Almost every Benz looks way better than EQS lol !!

@@yungboicontigo9278 Why won't you try compare that to a Nissan Juke instead of a Supra?

I agree same year I got lexus , bmw , audi had it not s500 just park sensors smh

Just needs some nice wheels and it looks good

@@dirkvanviersen671 does have nice wheels

Better looking than latest s class

Agreed. It was my favorite. I get nostalgic seeing one.

I 100% agree with this statement. The previous S Class was trying to hold onto the past and was playing cautious with styling trying not alienate their older customer base. This S Class was a reach into the future finally allowing them to stay ahead of the competition.

I dont like it. Do you see the cheap and ugly plastic buttons?

@@scrubplaceholder6216 No reason not to buy a masterpiece.

@@scrubplaceholder6216 what do you drive?

@@scrubplaceholder6216 Are plastic buttons seriously the best argument you can use against this car?

@@scrubplaceholder6216 oh and what do you drive today ? Something with more plastic than this thing..

I mean he’s right, most people def consider this the worst one

We had a 2006, brilliant car. Only thing that needed replacing was the ABC, other than that solid car if you maintain it well.

found the rich kid

my friend slammed his to the floor to the point were he wore a hole through the rear diff. Still drives like brand new even through all that nonsense not to mention it looks great in person!!

@@16BitOG found the salty kid

"It’s only issues were reliability and quality control," Those are two of the most important factors in whether or not a car is any good.

@@almassengale I don’t disagree. But when it did work it was the most luxurious and advanced car of the century, by far.

@@Forge17 It was brought on to the market after the millennium- not the 20th century - the 21st century. Ive never owned a W220 or even been in one, but I owned a 1999 BMW 5 series E39, and i'd prefer it over a W220 S Class.

@@StefenFoy21car was released in 1998.

yeah, critical in fighting Lexus.

Bit of an exaggeration but i see your point

You Benz should star in one of Doug's tests!

What’s your year and engine? That’s awesome

yeah need certain colors, and the most important option (depending on year) is xenon lights. I recently bought a 02 S500 Lorinser thats black on black with the xenons and such and love it! Most of these w220s for sale or on road look plain jane white or silver with the plastic cheap looking lights or the ABC cars slammed on ground stereotypically haha.

It's still gorgeous. It receives hate because of old myths. Bruno Sacco's last sedan design. It has the Sacco touch but for an era where drag coefficient and reduced frontal area is paramount.

W140 was designed in the extroverted 80s. W220 still looks nice, inoffensive presence 👌

What..u compared a benz to a Lexus..lmao

Still looks better than the present S-Class.

@@yrasphong , well, yes. Lexus redefined the luxury car for this segment of the market. Mechanically, the LS400s were superb pieces of engineering. They were precision pieces and when you took the apart the engine these it showed.

I thought that was an odd comment too. If anything, the W221 receives more criticism because of the fender bulges.

agreed, literally never heard a bad word about it nor its reliability. Sometimes I do wonder if these comments he makes are conjured more from his own personal experience, rather than an objective general outlook. Also gonna note that this in fact was not the first car with ventilated seats, that goes to the SAAB 9-5, but I guess Doug also forgot to research that before he announced the S class as "Pioneer and to his belief the first in the world". Sometimes it really does feel like he just skimps over stuff these days for the sake of adding more material to his reviews, rather than true quality.

no, it looks like shit now as it did then

@@Real_MisterSir he also stated about the LED tail lights. The 2000 Caddy Deville beat this to market with LED brake AND turn signals. Night vision too...

no, the car looks disgusting, almost as ugly as the new models of mercedes and bmw

Ditto.

Idk what Doug is talking about. That car is absolutely beautiful 🤩

Who cares what doug thinks!?...his opinion means dogshit to real car enthusiasts

You said it brother

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Doug is being stupid day by day.

I was detailing cars at the local Benz dealership when this was still in production and never heard negative criticisms aside from the air ride system failing. Always loved it personally.

Not sure he's ok. He wears two t-shirts and dresses like a child.

These cars are a nightmare to own today, unlike their predecessors. Just look at the depreciation.

So, you know ONE W220 owner? Not for nothing did it gain its bad reputation

Thing is, saying everyone hates something is not an opinion, it's an objective statement which is either true or false.

The only problem is the suspension

​@@bbb_258people just don't know how to diagnose them

Most sensible comment in the whole thread. THHHHISSSS... is what Doug was talking about. Yes, most prior S Class owners felt this way, and no, nothing about Doug's review hints at racism.

So true. Actually the interior of every BMW at the time, very square and symmetrical, looked so much more premium and at complete odds with the rounded/American looking interiors of the W220/W211/W203

@@fruitpunch5260 Having had experience with both W220 S and W211 E, I must admit that I liked the latter more. It felt more solid and imo better looking. I don’t think the W220 looks all that bad, but I never liked how the door lines integrate into the roofline and not go around the windows. I think that also contributes towards the slight color mismatch between the front doors and side fenders. The W211 and W221 fixed that.

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I think LED brake lights are better than incandescent or halogen brake light, they instantly light up and do not fade, giving indeed better reaction time. Also more visible even when the sun shining at the brake lights. Same deal with LED turn signals and LED reverse lights. People may complain about LED headlights, but people must admit LED use less electricity and fuel compared to incandescent or halogen. LED on cars are more common now than 20 years ago.

@@automation7295 the only downside I found with led lights especially taillights is that during the winter incandescent bulbs put out heat and melt the ice and snow 😂 LEDs are cold and you must clean the taillights yourself.

Doug doesn't go into enough detail that this is the exact type of obsessive safety engineering Mercedes-Benz was already legendary for, and what a lot of their longtime customers were still buying the cars for.

LEDs are cool until it snows.

@@shortycrawford8237 People clean off their brake lights regardless they're LED or not, also mostly doesn't snow much everywhere in the world.

And the interior still looks like new and everything works flawlessly except air suspension and AC due to a leaking line

i dont hate it either i love it in fact

Likewise, I've never met someone that didn't like the 220 chassis. I think the 221 is the one that got more flack for the weird fender flare and styling.

I agree the styling was very good for its time and that Doug is looking thru the wrong lens at it. The 221 is arguably a more controversial design (although not as dramatic the 7 series from that era).

I bet Doug is the only one here hating it.

Clickbait

It was never hated.As you can read above,it certainly isn´t now.Of course then,and now,some owners like their luxury cars to look really big.

It wasn't. Just Doug it seems (at least if we go by general opinion)

@@matsujarvinen Yeah, judging from the general consensus from the comments, it is a well liked car.

@@Real_MisterSir judging from the comments, I guess so, lol

Not an American thing, Doug is full of crap, everyone likes this one

Doug doesn't know cars as well as he likes to think, so he'll diss on cars he doesn't understand and blurb out nonsense. First time I am watching his video in almost a year, and already regretting it half way through.

@@sunshinefireboulder agreed

Facts

I had a Barolo Red '07 S550 but I always wanted a W220.

100%. I love pre-recession Benz, after recession, they've gone down the toilet.

The W220 is gorgeous! I didn’t like the original W221, but the facelift was great! Never cared for the W222, the interior looks good, but the build quality is awful. The W223 is just trash.

@@dmitrymalikov4613 yeah the w222 is good but that's it really imo

The w221 is the best looking generation to me, although the w220 still looks much better than its predecessors.

Nope W221 is far better looking than the W220

Agreed. All he had to do is talk to actual owners and they'll tell the real story.

The w220 was and still is, a great car.

gorgeous car

Absolutely the point i made above. Completely disagree, he should speak to owners of this beauty.

Ugly ass looking interior.

There was also a granite / marble version. Very durable inside of super strong leather. The interior is much better made than the W140 predecessor. The previous version was heavier, hence probably talking about cost cuts, not quality ... the interior of this car is the biggest advantage, it looks great at night

In 1998 nobody knew that plastic switches were not luxury yet, this notion was invented later.

Exactly.

Same. I think it looks handsome yet simple and masculine.

Same. I love this design era for Mercedes, they are unmistakable for any other marque and have grown up, beautiful, classy style.

Way sleaker than a w140. They will be appreciated in the future :)

My wife and I are of the same mind as you with regards to the styling. I like the exterior of the W220 much better than the blase W221 but, I give the better interior looks and quality to the W221.

couldn't disagree more with everything you said LOL

140k is nothing for modern standards 🤣

@@dirtyorganboy2264 ok i seen those cars with 300k kms which is 200k something miles

Yeah it was hated. Alot of old Benz are

Very well said!My S320 maintenance costs are typically ~100$ per year.Well built car,with one of the best engines(M112/113) and transmissions MB has ever built.So, I don´t really understand this myth about "budget Mercedes".

I was driven in a W211 E Class taxi with over 400.000km (250.000+ miles) on the clock last year. This thing looked brand new inside. Like really brand new. The wood looked great, the leather without any damage, the steering wheel wasn't worn out. Somebody took really good care of this car.

even the w222? I don't remember, but I doubt that

Most of the hate for the W220 is down to quality issues that were fixed by 2000. I'd have a well-kept W220 over the new S Class any day.

Thank you!

@@jordanbell4420 The hate also comes from corrosion protection issues, but those were fixed by 2003. Even the earlier cars varied wildly. They overestimated the lifespan of the cathodic dip solution and got the formula wrong. Some cars were well-protected. Some weren't. Mechanically great cars.

I bet you people on the comments do actually murder people for driving newer cars.

Discolored body panels

Dude the one in the video is in horrible condition. The paint on the body panels doesn’t match. The panel gaps are off. Everything screams poor restoration

​@@MI-qx4lc At least is still works. Why do people on RU-vid love insulting everyone and their cars? *"Everything screams poor restoration"* Not everyone have time to restore a car. Do you also go around you neighborhood and tell strangers to wash their cars? Seems like USA is full with disrespectful people telling or yelling at random strangers to wash their cars and even tell them to restore the cars.

I often wonder what color the sky is in his world....

Agreed. Anything Germany produces, he assumes everyone loves it no matter what.

@@yungboicontigo9278 this isn’t Instagram or TiK Tok dude..,

This is a trope among automotive journalists actually. Jack Baruth has made similar comments.

Probably but doesn’t change the fact it is the worst S class

Don't take this the wrong way but what's sports cars have you owned/enjoyed particularly in the past? I could see enjoying driving it but I genuinely can't think of an S-Class I've driven that I'd call fun to drive. I can see most non-V12 AMG S-Class variants as being fun to drive but the W220 like many is just too insulated, non-communicative, and lackluster in handling at more than four tenths to be objectively fun to drive.

I'm afraid to be biased as a millennial but this W220 is STILL the most beautiful of modern S-classes. But then again, I embrace and try to be neutral from all design periods since the 50's and I'd like to say I am right on this W220, lol.

@@yungboicontigo9278 actually yes, I owned a 1984 Ferrari 308 for several years up until about five years ago. I have only personally driven a friend's Lamborghini Diablo one time. I obviously cannot comment on the different models/years of each manufacturer and their respected driving differences. Which ones do or did you prefer to drive or own?

@@joeleonard9965 I've owned a 1984 Ferrari 308, BMW M5, cadillacs, old hot rods etc. I used to trade cars alot before family and kids came into the mix now it seems like I spend more time in GMC Yukon XL, I currently own a 2018 Vette zo6 for a toy. I purchased the Benz a while back after someone had it sitting in a parking lot for sale. I have to drive several times a week to some property about an hour away from my home, very long winding picturesque country roads, and I have to say I thoroughly enjoy the Benz, obviously road performance isn't where I find this car amazing and I would never put this car toe to toe with some of the others I've owned but just overall experience. It's reliable, It has a great sound system, seats are comfy, car runs smooth and very responsive with throttle as well as it isn't too bad in the turns. She's still a head turner and like I said I get compliments all the time!! All in all to be an almost 22 year old car, it's a solid automobile that still acts the part it was designed to do.

This vid is just straight up propaganda for w220 W220 is an masterpiece He says it looks like a kia ffs. look at the 2021 "s class" it straight up stretchened A class

The style is not a real Mercedes. Like a Kia yes. The end of Mercedes is 1995

@@antoniocalimero1173 lol you're entitled to your opinion. But, Mercedes style has always been understated.

@@salamov963 I disagree. The new one looks just as good as the ones before. And Mercedes always look similar.

That's kind of a dumb reason to like an sclass

when people say "indistinguishable" I think they're talking about the design, rather than the quality.