Shinee's Jonghyun also was an inspiration to others: he wasn't afraid of being vocal about global issues and the thing he wanted the most was to put the light on minorities in general. Sadly he was criticised but he never stopped. I wanted to talk about him because his thoughts deserved to be mentioned somehow
The whole skinship between samesex members is not queerbait, cause if you search about same sex friendships in korea in the perspective of people who lived there, you'll find out that they are really like that to their close friends, in and out of camera. Still, when it comes to LGBTQ+ people, they have a lot to improve, but when it comes to fragile masculinity in touching, hugging, kissing other man, it's pretty natural among close friends.
@@matheuswdl When I say fanservice I don't mean skinship between members cause I know many of them do it when they feel comfortable beside eachother. I mean fanservice that they do for concerts or fansigns purposely when they know some fans have certain ships, you can see some moments are scripted (specially in concerts and tour cause they repeat the same actions after certain songs)
@@akuaik.100 yes I’m fine with skin ship because it shows they are comfortable and have a good relationship to show affection but companies ruin that by making them do fanservice , example; Han and Lee Know ship- earlier days they used to be naturally close, playful and affectionate even sometimes flirty but lately in videos it’s very blatant that they were told to play up their relationship and now basically every video has a moment that could be taken as though they were in a romantic relationship (idk if they actually are but it’s very clear to see the way their relationship has changed)
This really shows how toxic the Korean society is - hating idols for posting something about women power, like naeun’s freaking phone case. Yes, girls can do anything.
@Human Being that’s so disgusting, it’s unbelievable. Even if you got educated wrongly through your family, you can still teach yourself better or get taught from someone who knows better - but those people who got educated wrongly don’t even think about looking at “the other side” / the other perspective or won’t listen, which is really annoying. I know they might think this was the right education, but that doesn’t mean it is, so listen.
@KPOP and METAL there is always something women can do and men can’t do. There might be something too, which only men can do but I can’t think of that right now - ( I don’t have anything against men, in general, don’t get me wrong. I just can’t think of anything that men can do, which women can’t do )
@Isabel reed well the Korean society still judges the idols, whether they listen to Kpop or not, because Kpop is still a thing in Korea. If Koreans really weren’t to listen to Kpop as much, as they are, then Kpop wouldn’t be as big as it is. It’s not only a international thing.
@Isabel reed of course it won’t represent the whole society, but still a big part of it. Feminism is still a bad thing in Korea. And if idols talk about something which just has a little bit to do with feminism/ even if it’s just about some women power - like with naeun’s phone case - people/ Korean netizens will talk/ will get involved. And I mean people from everywhere ( in Korea ), not just from the Kpop community.
@@joshua_here5849 Nah, it's like everything, people exaggerates when it suits them. For a racist every muslim is a terrorist, for a businessman every union is a poison, for a sexist every feminist is a radical. I mean, they just said in the news that some men where pissed off because An San had short hair and they looked into her social media to find "evidence" that she was a "feminist"... isn't that radical?? isn't that toxic?? Are all men in S. Korea like that?? NO!! Are all feminist in S. Korea "toxic and radical"?? NO!!!. But the thing still stands, with the overreaction they are making the word and concept of feminist more popular and know.
@@yukigiro17 idk if you know major Feminists organizations in South Korea supported a female r*pist, you should look at the situation of feminism in SK it's awful, and one thing I one to point out, feminism from your perspective is an idealogy, and for me is a movement if you want to know about how toxic is feminism is in Korea then you should look at this, you should check out the link I gave below, it pretty much sums it up (Note : there are not good articles on this topic because most of them giving half baked information, I found this Quora answer pretty unbiased)
@AliceEphemeral well your not wrong about the conservative society part, but feminism is SK goes to such extent thaat major feminist organizations preach that you should be radical, they put a bad image, and I am not personally sure about feminism for men, if you heard about Erin Pizzey situation, Mary Krosse or the protest against gender neutral rape laws, you would no feminism only supports male victims I guess on "Social media" feminism has always been against male victims, anyways that's a whole other side of debate, and there are not many male idol or female idol who have said they support feminism, so I don't think we can make a presumption, if you want to see an unbiased opinion on SK feminism then you should check out the link below, I know it's a Quora answer, but article from other sites are highly biased
*I DID RESPECTED IRENE, I EVEN LITERALLY TRIED TO STOP SOME HATERS FROM BAD MOUTHING HER, If you want to make women get equal rights and value, then you have to start protecting and standing up for them and for us, for ourselves too*
If you don’t like what ur idol says, then leave the fanbase quietly and respectfully or stay in the fanbase, and keep ur mouth shut, until EVERYTHING gets cleared. No one should have to go through what these Kpop idols have been through, I stan and respect them for that❤️
I assume because they financially and emotionally invested to that Idol, image you are black and invested in that idol and suddenly found out that Idol is extremely racist, you just leave that fandom quietly? Even after spend thousands of dollars of your pocket money?
@@Androids23 no actually, if you look at the laws in S. Korea at least, they mostly support women in basically everything. For example, only men are required by law to go to military for 2 years, women are favored in family court decisions, women can falsely accuse a men for sexual assault with no evidence and can get away with it, and the list goes on. Feminism in sk caused this massive change in the political and social system that degraded men and victimized women, people- including many women- have started to reject feminism in order to combat the 'victim' mentality that caused so much harm in the society- like a massive drop in the annual birth rate, hundreds of men being falsely accused of sexual assault every month, and spending tax money for 'families' but all of them being directed to women. However, the type of feminism that they so much reject is the 4th wave feminism, not the 2nd wave if you know what the differences are.
@@Androids23 where did I mention Irene or anyone? I am saying that sk people have became very sensitive to the word 'feminism' and when an idol supports it, it is no wonder that people 'attack' them.
Not in KPOP but just recently happened a korean woman archer was told to give back her gold medal just because she had a short haircut which some ppl think she's supporting/ promoting feminism
@sunday she won gold medal in archery that also in Olympics. I am feeling proud for them but its not my country and all those people care is the haircut.
South Korea is very active politically, there are protest on many cases and they act quickly when something major happened like Goo Hara and SK quickly make the Goo hara act happen.
@@mariaromano7481 Wow you're reading comprehension.... I'll help you. OP 1st mentions South Korea as the subject of their sentence then states "they act quickly" - this means in standard English "they" = "South Koreans". Later in the sentence "LIKE Goo Hara"] "Like" here separates the 1st & 2nd part of the sentence. It gives an example to back up the first part of the sentence of "they act quickly" by mentioning how they/South Koreans acted quickly. OP's sentence is grammatically correct w/correct use of commas and placement when things happened. Hope that helps. Or maybe you're just a troll? The last part of your post is tactless & uncalled for.
@@silverbullet252 I'm not a troll. I gave my opinion. And I read correctly. I can give my opinion, or not? Facts speak for themselves. The rest is useless
The first story is incredibly blood boiling. I can't imagine being forced to publicly appeal to the dictatorship that oppresses me at the expense of my country's credibility. Denouncing your own identity, disappointing your people, and having to apologize to the government that caused pain and trauma for your people? The shame and anger is unimaginable.
Because Gi-dle have a Chinese member so the group's activities must expand to China. Just like most Hollywood movie studios cowardly have to kneel down before the Chinese communist's power, to make money and promote movies, especially that guy John Cena (or Xina). I bet you that if Lisa or Minnie dare to speak out about the protes in Thailand, they will be boycotted immediately. Actually, I think Tzuyu is a lucky case. Since Twice doesn't have any Chinese members, JYP originally didn't open up the market for Twice here (although that compensates with a thicker schedule, the girls have to be more active).
@@khanhphaminh1175 yeah I can't totally be upset with Tzuyu or certain idols that are forced to for the sake of their careers, especially when they're clearly the victims. But the company forcing them in order to appeal to the CCP is just heartless and obviously people like John Cena who's only relationship with the CCP is their box office money...
@@sapphic.flower I've long felt that there's something weird about the JYP dude, but never thought he would be this crazy. Has hundreds of millions of dollars in assets, but he still chooses to bow his head like a slave instead of standing proudly to protect those who need him.
I remember Blackpink once holding a pride flag at a concert. They show their support for lgbt + all the time. I didn't even know how much courage it takes when you are an idol.
@@deadcorpse69 I found this interview. Jennie exactly said “I don’t think it (love) necessarily has to be directed with a guy.. Love isn’t about the gender, It’s how you feel to that person.. Being attractive to different genders is something that we shouldn’t close.” 🙌🏻😍
that was 1 trainee and its because he was caught dating before debut every company do it cause dating is strictly restricted there is a member in 2AM another Jyp grp whose name in Jokwon he is also gay Back in 2010 he also had a dating scandal with U-kiss member soohyun when their private messages were leaked as they’re both guys but their text messages were them saying I love you to each other over and over again and saying stuff To each other like “My love soohyun” “my love Jokwon” “my darling” even sunmi (not clear tho) but talked abt such things again Miyeon was also kicked out cause she was found dating its some basic rules u have to follow and maybe others are more talnted than him ??
The industry is super restricting and it is horrible for their Mental, Emotional, Physical, and even their Social health. I only hope that things change for the better so that idols can be their true selves and not always have to put on a face.
Joy: wears a feminist shirt. People: hit her with hate comments. Joy: posts more photos with the feminist shirt. Joy gave them the most respectful middle finger. I love her so much.
This is devestating our Kpop idols can't even have their own and speak about their countries, even for Taiwanese idols. The Kpop industry is so toxic and just wants to keep these girls for their entertainment. Alone with the JYP Entertainment, should be receiving tons of backlash for what they have done. Kpop idols doesn't matter Men or Women should have their rights to speak about whatever they want and they don't even have any rights to speak about other actions in the US such as BLM, LGBTQ+, and so much more. Not only are the Kpop idols being treated like this our American actors and singers they are being treated like this too. Because these companies want M.o.n.e.y! they don't want their idols to have time or get any sleep. They can't even eat any food they want which isn't Okay! and it's not okay to keep these idols silent. I have tons of respect of our Kpop idols, but not their agencies they don't even let them be who they doesn't matter if your gay or straight or homosexual you just be you. After all our Kpop idols should get better treatment and shouldn't be kicked out be they are Gay. It's because they should be who they are . Have a good day to all the Kpop idols out and they should ignore the haters out there ignore them and go on about your day. Life matters, but care more.
@@l0vet075 That is true that knetz can be absolutely toxic, but it doesn’t help that a good portion of the industry not only enable it but even cater to that kind of toxicity. So to me, both are at fault.
It's sad and heartbreaking that a HUMAN BEING, not idols, are stifled and risk their careers, for merely, exercising their own free will and love for their home country. I understand that they knowingly, at least I hope they're aware, sign up for this type of medieval bullshit, but it goes to show that the companies ONLY concern is MONEY, PROFIT and GREED.
Tzuyu’s situation was NOT RIGHT. She was 16 and on a tv show. She didn’t go out and buy the flag, surely. I feel so bad for her. She rose above big time.
maybe SK misinterpreted "feminism" a lot. "feminism" isn't about female vs male, its about humans vs male patriarchy. we all know, even if you are a male, that males are much more capable of doing violent actions more than women. and that was feminism is about, empowering women against 'danger', and not against men. also, feminism doesn't have to be just for women too. you can be a feminist even if you're a man. reading a book about it won't hurt, idk why they're reacting like that with irene. PLUS, namjoon also reads a feminist book but he gains respect. maybe people just hate irene and it wasn't right! :(
People forget that feminism is about human equality. It’s about protecting all human rights and demanding healthy standards for everyone regardless of gender. Toxic masculinity is also tackled in feminism and we all know how harmful that can be on men. I think there’s a lot of misunderstanding concerning the movement because unless a guy is very toxic and dominating, he shouldn’t feel threatened by feminists.
The word has been used by people who don't believe in men having rights and people that hate men. So if someone first assumes it's about disliking men you shouldn't be surprised. I hate what it has turned into.
You are so right. ALSO, the fact that a man reading a feminist book is cool and a woman reading one is black listed, tells you everything you need to know.
The fact that men we're full on harassing female idols for allegedly supporting feminism just proves a point... It actually made me pretty mad that people had the audacity to hate on someone because they didn't like that their phone case was uplifting to women. Like, your life's gotta be pretty damn depressing if you're so fragile that you feel threatened by some girl's phone case... a PHONE case. It truly makes me wonder how those kinds of people manage to get through the day without having a meltdown
*This isnt about victim being female.This isnt about Feminism , This is person to person , taking actions i might be rash to take parts in such things , but this is ""HUMANISM""* exactly true words 6:32
No. Saying "humanism" erases "female" from the equation. It denies the cultural factors that deem violence against women ok. It makes control over the "fem" ok. It's DaBaby saying homophobic comments to a MAN & people being against him MEANWHILE he's on camera hitting a woman & the internet shrugs. It's "she was asking for it" & "what were you wearing" when 1. clothes has NO bearing on whether ladies of any age are attacked & 2. no one asks for it - but THESE hold up in a court of law. The girl saying she had been mistreated at photo shoot goes to court: "why were you there" "weren't you secretly flirting" "What were you wearing? Why did you agree to it? Why didn't you insist on wearing something else?" YOU CAN NOT BE A HUMANIST AND DISMANTLE OR EVEN COMBAT THESE VERY GENDER-SPECIFIC ISSUES! #feminism PS I bet you dollars to donuts Seohyun only said that to get the male cry babies off her back.
@Isabel reed Dismantle your internalized mysoginy. It'll do you - and the planet - wonders. Humanism DOES NOT help female issues. It's "all lives matter" when people say Black Lives Matter. It's just a way of shutting down the issue w/o actually doing anything to address the REAL underlying societal issue. Humanism is a bandaid for the disease & never a cure.
@@silverbullet252 Humainsm is a thing which is genderless thing not feminism or male dominance just simple def that we should help each other in times of need rather than looking for gender
@Isabel reed true like in dance we say male idols do masculine dance and disrespect and all when they cover female grp dance but again Dance has no gender ppl tend to forget such things
I swear these people need help MAMAMOO made a song hip kinda talking about this ig? I wish sulli was with them so she would be here alive, and hopefully female kpop idol will get justice a lot of love to sulli tho💜💜💜💜💜
Im acually wondering, do yall hear this? Someone needs to take a photo down of her phone because her phone case says ' girls can do anything', what the actual f.... People really make so much fuss about nothing. And even if it would have to do anything with feminism, its non of your concerns.
3:18 I'm Taiwanese and would be scared to speak about how China treats Taiwan but that is absolutely unexpendable tzuyu and all other K-pop idols can speak about where there from they should be able to say anything.
Not talking about obvious social problems like females being objectified, LGBTQ+ being dehumanized and many more. Those haters acitvely denying issues, posting malicious comments and sending death threats, are nothing more than scum. I said what I said, come back if you are grown up enough and educated yourself enough to have a real discussion
It literally breaks my heart 💔 seeing how kpop groups and other celebrities are being treated. We are human beings created in God's image. We should treat each other with love , respect and decency. It should not matter if we don't always agree with each other, that is what makes us unique. All we need is Love - the Beatles
A lot of celebrities feel that they're so popular that nothing can harm their careers. Look at Natalie Maines: she thought the Dixie Chicks were so popular that she could get away with that remark about Bush (of which I totally agree). I guess the group wanted to kill her after that; because it not only ruined her career but theirs too!
It's sad how some people only see idols and kpop in general as all rainbows unicorns and happiness I feel like it's really toxic how kpop show everyone that idols are perfect human beings with perfect faces and smiles that are so happy with everything but in reality some of those people aren't even able to be themselves completely I personally think it ain't even worth it imagining how many idols and people in industry's mental health are ruined is just sad
@James Henry Smith your comments are making 0 sense, and you were mocking the kpop industry in another comment and insulting c-pop, but you made hundreds of comments on a Twice singing video defending TWICE from hate?
actually, tzuyu’s apology was not deleted as you said in the video, it’s just a simple mistake in the video and of course it’s alright, but I wanted to make a correction to show that the apology of a 16 year old CHILD who was tormented and bullied which is disturbing, is still up. jype should stop being crowd pleasers and stand up against hate instead of falling into it.
@James Henry Smith that’s rude to say. they ARE real countries. jyp does not represent the whole country, and it’s actually china who pressured tzuyu to apologize not taiwan. all are real countries so don’t disrespect them.
The unnecessary confession/apology is not just, “still up,” the original video without subtitles is still getting some 200 to 250 views per day, is approaching 10 million views, and has 133k comments. If this video is an intentional tear-jerker, I am one person who fell for it
What hurts the most about Tzuyu's situation is that even mainland Chinese media reported that the flag Tzuyu held was not a sign of disrespect to the mainland. It was all caused by mainland China netizens that don't even understand their own country.
I love Sulli, and I always will... I wish if she could have changed her focus from those people who hates her.. To those who loved her..But unfortunately we can't get her back... I miss the way she laughed openly without hiding her smile.. If you ever feel down somehow.. Please consider thinking about the good times, and those people who loves you...
The Shuhua situation was baffling. First of all, it was the graphics department at the tv station who posted the flag. Shuhua had nothing to do with that. Then CUBE up and apologize for something that even THEY didn't do. And to top matters, no one was asking for it, not even China (I don't think). So the whole thing is stupid layered on top of stupid covered by stupid.
people were upset by the taiwanese flag. even knetz criticized them for it. at least cube didn't make shuhua apologize in front of a camera like jyp made tzuyu do :( i think companies and idols do this so they won't get in trouble or lose support from china.
@Wong LiZhen Yeah. Given someone gave Tzuyu that flag for that clip means she wasn't making a political statement. I mean, she didn't arrive at the shoot with the flag in her bag, that was the prop guy's fault. But SHE had to apologize for it, not the company who shot the segment. It's absurd to think that people actually believed that a 16 year old girl was trying to protest a political system when she (at that time) was trying to become an idol. Give me a break. Sometimes I think people over react to the point of insanity.
@@joh3028 Knetz my ass. Korean don't really care about China or Taiwan. All the hates come from China for sure. Who's upset by the Taiwanese flag, and by the way could you at least capitalize the country name please? Everyone has the freedom to speak out their minds. You could agree or disagree, but you CAN'T force them from not saying what they believe in. And actually, Twice have nothing to do in China, because they don't have Chinese member.
@@khanhphaminh1175 cube wouldn't even release a statement if knetz didn't care. it's less about knetz caring about politics and more about just finding a reason to criticize an idol.
@@joh3028 If you talk about CUBE, I'm even more disgusted. Just because of slanders, Soojin had to leave the group, but this company can't even give a word to protect its employees?
If company see idol as a human no one have to face these kind of things they only see idols as a toy our society really see woman weak k pop idols face really hard things and many of them passed away bcz of nastic comments i hope near future nothing will happen like that
Death threats is by far the worst thing someone could ever give to someone else just because they did something wrong doesn't mean you'll give them death threats immediately This society is absolutely sick
and yet you throw these kind of threats around you all the time tae tae love, against idols and against stans who exposed you, always making fun of idols who arent with us anymore...and youre even so shameless to call society sick, when youre a serious problem in this society and one of the most disgusting losers and haters this world has ever seen
The Philippines loves women, has palm trees, beautiful beaches, uses memes, helps others, and even has colorful street candy! But the memes usually get out of hand.
few men really thinks that feminism means women are better than men or they hate men the real meaning of feminism is "TO GET EQUALITY WITHOUT GETTING JUDGED" that's it it doesn't mean that women hates them i mean male idols have a huge fan following in girls but female idols don't have huge fan following in boys 🤷♀️
No matter if you agree with someone thoughts or no and if that someone is doing the right thing or no, death threats is not really a solution, things like this should be taken as crimes, let the people fight for what they believe in
I hope a day will come where idols could be themselves and be happy . People just find ways to hate them for just thinking the way a human should . They will just help the pp struggling and get hate . Why do pp hate idols just for making minor mistakes ,being themselves ,proud of themselves or their nationality. All the smallest thing in Korea is such a big thing ,not not in international fans
Idols not selling music itslef but the illusion that they love their fans only like a mindless robots. (See an American artist or other international singer they not have this problem because they selling is music not an illusion) Sorry for being frank and acting like a bitch but your hope will not come true because company/Idols wants fan to be obessed so they can earn more money.
I've been watching these in order to prepare myself for getting in the K-POP industry. I really appreciate how you're showing every side of the Kpop world! ♥️
Change can start with a single step. Back in the 60s/70s there was a big push for women's rights and equality in the West. It started off small and eventually became a whole movement. Things have much improved for women since then, but it is not perfect and there is still a long way to go, but I hope K-pop idols can keep doing their thing and chip away and get change. The more they raise their voices the more they will be heard and it will be impossible to ignore them. Stay strong.
I’ve never really realized how dark k-pop is and how hard it is on idols until now. LGBTQ and personal belief issues in the industry should be addressed also. (P.S, rest easy Sulli and any other idol who went through the same)
Korean societal issues seems so shockingly horrible. People getting angry about somene simply defending a sexual abuse victim??? These people want those women to stay silent and continue being abused. What the actual hell. These idols including Sulli who continue to stand up for themselves are literal heroes.
not WOMEN being trashed and publicly condemned and insulted for standing up for WOMEN’S rights and one another. This is what happens when you’re aware of these issues in a 100% Misogynistic country. so disappointing and disgusting that as women we are expected to be quiet and just follow what the misogynists (majority of them being the people who run these countries) say. Imagine how even more frustrating this is as a female idol, as if idols aren’t scrutinized for literally anything.
Ethnic is not important thus she is PROUD OF being from TAİWAN no excuse bcz she is sad and when people r sad you can't make an excuse this is more heartbroken (btw ı know ı saw how she was sad and ı just wanted to say that ım not mean or smth if you got is wrong Don't got it from that way) also in my country thewe have the same problem when you say ethnic this is the most stupit think ever ,moon
It’s sad to see fans be shipping same sex idols yet react negatively when they either don’t get the ship they want or when the idols come out. I’m not saying it’s the same people that do that, but there are people in the fanbase that act like the latter, and it’s scary.
When you said that about the pads I remembered something that happened to me in Korea. I was at the mart in Lotte world and I needed pads (which are super expensive in Korea??? WHY???) So I just grabbed some and went to pay. The woman was adamant about giving me a bag and I was repeating that I don't need one :D She was so worried and i just didn't want a whole big ass plastic bag for 1 pack of pads. She shuffled under the counter and she got out a brown paper slip and was like "At least use this to put it inside" And I was like???Ok??I guess? :D It reminded me when I was in school and all of us used to hidee our pads as if they were dildos... Like chill there's nothing embarrassing, half the population has a period
It breaks my heart that many young queer idols cannot come out and be who they are. They have to cater towards the young, straight fanbase of the opposite sex and it truly disgusts me. Huge respect for dear Holland for being himself and doing what he wants as an openly gay idol, but poor guy did face a lot of hardships, like not being allowed to debut and having to create his own company, and having his music videos be R-rated. I hope we can change. I hope all queer idols will be able to live freely and comfortably with themselves and their sexualities. Love and peace always!
I REMEMBER WHEN I WATCHED SIXTEEN , I WAS VERY SAD AND HORRIFIED TO SEE HOW THE SHOW WAS OBJECTING THEIR LOOKS AND EVERYTHING .LIKE SHOULDN'T YOU SEE THEIR TALENT AND HEART INSTEAD OF OTHER THINGS DIGUSTING
That Koreans, or Asians in general, do not have the same vision of life and society as Westerners does not mean that they are "behind", that is to want to impose on them postmodern visions of what "progress" is.
Thank you! We don’t need to follow the west because they’re “right” ( which is not true ) and the rest of the world according to them is “wrong”. I swear these westerners still have colonizers mentality. They can’t leave others live however they want
@@StarlightBibi Exactly, in fact I am from the West, and I clearly perceive that we are the ones who are in frank decline here, while the societies of Asia Pacific progress in an orderly and consistent manner... that there they do not let the postmodern decadence that overwhelms the West today infiltrate you too.
I felt so bad for tzuyu she literally raised her homeland flag and hot hate for it like BRUH she was literally 16 years old and she was probably proud of her nation her country Let her breathe Edit: got*
Sick and horrible ... throwing children aged 13-14-15-16 into the hell of sou business is horrible, criminal, disgusting ... do these children have a childhood at all, these young people need to go through the process of growing up, not only physically, but also MENTALLY, this is monstrous ... there is no justification for any company that does this ... like there someone is fighting for human rights, for example, everyone is against the existence of child slaves, etc., so yes do you see similarities, I see ... and one more thing, that everyone has the right to be proud of their country and flag, what is the problem, what is with people or better yet what is with non-humans
hi tae tae love, thank you for outing yourself again today with over 5 accounts in taenous new community post and once again attack everyone with all your accs instantly and proved nicely again, that you are behind all these accounts
The fact that netizens use "promoting feminism" as an accusation basis shows just where we are at as a society. Men in the west and in the east both think they are entitled to women's bodies and rights, it's horrible. The more time I spent on media outlets, the more demoralizing it feels to know that, en masse, this toxic behaviour is normalized.
so basically if you're a woman in korea you're not supposed to open your mouth to support anything even if it's some serious important human issues?? wow I feel so bad for them I hope one day females in korea will be able to do and say whatever the hell they please cuz it's the most basic human right to have freedom of speech and free will
I hope idols can raise their voice in the future Like San from Ateez being a feminist surprised me, I mean I knew he was an amazing person but still, it was so nice of him to talk about it He's getting attacked.. that's true but a lot of people are impressed and support him I hope we can see a lot more feminist and lgbtq movements in the industry❤
When you realise that something small can lead to big issues in sk and I'm not even talking about like dark jokes but like even having short hair can lead to hate
My brain explodes by the fact these girls get so much hate to the point they themselves don't even wanna carry on anymore, bc they r reading a book about REAL LIFE THINGS. For having a phone case with "girls can do anything", this just shows how mentally immature these men are(and women but mostly men). Like fr they think they're so entitled to bully these kpop girls/boys. My heart is out for each and everyone of em. And also my hearts out for the men n women who support eachother n who are mature about these situations, being an asshole isn't gonna make people love you. BE URSELF!!!
I love how BTS use their voice regarding BLM and Asian Hate on their massive platform Twitter and how SUGA openly supports LGBTQ! They are doing the right thing and I’m so proud of them!
@@strawtaerries5220 Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender.” The Q can stand for “questioning” -- as in still exploring one's sexuality -- or “queer,” or sometimes both.
There isn't anything wrong with feminism. 99.99% of feminists are feminists for the correct reason, they want equality for men and women. However there are obviously going to be a small amount of crazy people with any movement, who take it too far. This very small amount of feminists say "All Men are evil". This is very unfortunate because that is not what feminism is, but because those small amount of people say that, they misrepresent feminism to be something it is not. This causes many men to misunderstand what feminism is, and proceed to be anti-feminist. I think this is very unfortunate because there is actually nothing wrong with feminism, men and women being equal.
Like why koreans hate feminists?? Huh? Sk was my dream place to go but now im thinking twice like should i go or nah? Im scared, if i do anything wrong there theyll judge me no matter what.. 😔 like let those girls/boys breath for gods sake💀
Well if u are plan to go there just remember that korea is nothing likr kdrama and kpop not magical place especially for foreigners or women and u may face some racism there and u have to follow their ideal beauty standard to fit in society
I feel that it's not about blocking each other but more about sharing and seeing our views from another lens. Our personalities and thoughts give us individuality and uniqueness. We should at least respect an opinion or walk away. So we're all special, and without our differences, the world wouldn't be as unique. So there's no point in fighting...LET'S RESPECT EACH OTHER!!!!💖💖💖
I love how not talking about politics is considered abnormal somehow. Entertainers should stay NEUTRAL so people can watch a movie or watch sports to take a break from real life problems.
That's why they call K-pop the most toxic genre in the history of popular music in the world... No wonder, even if u get involved in it in the slightest, it will take a toll on ur mental health.... Getting infatuated with it in the beginning is easy and exciting. But getting out of it when it has sucked our and drained all ur energy and mental health and happiness is equally more difficult. It's like a dark path of rabbit hole. That's why it's so intoxicating right from the start. The way it is presented to attract the audiences minds it's like the Nectar or All happiness and la la land in the beginning but as u go more and more deeper u see how dangerously toxic it's for ur mental health and happiness. It's just drains u out of ur time and energy... The idols aren't the only ones suffering from exhaustion. The fans too are also. The way these K-pop entertainment companies market and deliver their content 365 days 24*7 via Music, Videos, Fans interaction, Live interaction. It's just so exhausting to keep up with their content. More than idols I'm worried about the K-pop fans who are subjected to such brainwashing into thinking this Fantasy world... I've been the same but just getting out of this toxic world... Sorry man, too much mental draining is happening, no happiness here just toxicity and empty promises and unfulfilled dreams. And I hope others the same. All the best ✌️
