Here's Why The 600LT was McLaren's Biggest Mistake and The Simple Reason They Didn't Sell Out 

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I’ve owned a 570 GT with no mechanical problems . Bought it new in 2017 and put 8 thousand miles on it . It’s very dependable. Service is expensive but it’s a super car so it’s not a surprise . I’m in love with it every time I drive it still !

Calling this Long Tail is quite a stretch, no pun intended

McLaren make incredible cars but they are really rushing the brand building. I know they have aggressive investors but you can’t manufacture heritage in a lab. Slow down McLaren

I don't think people are buying them the same reason I haven't bought the 720S I want so bad... because they have heard so many horror stories regarding reliability, QC, and scared to death of potential massive deprecation!

I bought mine in 2020. Spyder, and love it. Don’t care if prices tank or not. I bought to enjoy. Most RU-vidrs aren’t car people but rather car reviewers….. love mine at 23,000 miles now

The fact that he’s called James Dean is cooler than owning a McLaren.....

JayEmm on Cars: People know Mclaren will build too many 600lt's, and that depreciation will be a problem. Mclaren: we released a new slightly faster than the 600lt, the 620R now. Every Mclaren owner: I just lost some more money.

That shirt, got to be an MSO special.

Am I the only one noticing an awful panel gap misalignment on the left door?

They're not selling because they are utterly unreliable and something new fails or breaks every time the owner so much as blinks

Well that shirt is just tremendous

I had to wait 6 months for my VW Up Gti yet you can get a limited edition McLaren supercar within 3 months!

Most underated cars of 2019 Lamborghini performante, 600lt,gt3 rs. Ferrari may be considered the douche bag of the car manufacturing world but they know how to give everyone one of there cars the spotlight

4:12 FINALLY! Someone who does good car reviews who is as unimpressed with Alcantara as I am!!!

So, you're advocating for artificial scarcity? I much preferred it when cars earned their collectible status over time, having proved their worth.

The great thing about such a grey interior is that it really lets your shirt Pop! :-) Another fantastic video Jay...I now need to check my lottery ticket for some 600LT funds!

"You aint seen me right" utter genius "This week I shall be mostly watching JayEmm On Cars"

Oh wow! How did McLaren know what shade of green my grandmother’s kitchen was? Amazing!

Absolutely love my 570S, I like it significantly more than i liked any of my previous sports/supercars (Porsche 997 Turbo, 997 GT3, Ferrari F430 and Gen2 Audi R8 V10+). The feedback, steering, chassie, seating position, steering wheel, power gearbox, doors, exterior and exterior design are all individually better than in anything else i've ever driven before not to mention all in the same car. The only thing that its lacking is a more exotic and screaming tone of the exhaust, its good but not at the level of a GT3, non turbo Ferrari or the Lambo V10 in the R8 (even with titanium straight pipes with 200 cell cats on the McLaren). Just before the lockdowns I was at full day test drive of the new Ferrari F8 Tributo, I really like Ferrari but that just confirmed to me how much i love my McLaren and how it speaks to the driver.

Ok you got me...the fire out the trunk exit exhaust is insane ...

Coolest exhaust on any supercar Also your analysis made sense. Now that you have disclosed how many have been made, and single handedly increased the cars value. McLaren should maybe give you a car 😁

It's so sad that most people make their purchase decision based on investment and/or resale potential...

Your blaming the sales on a lack of transparency in manufacturing numbers but it’s just that sales of sports cars have tanked, same for cars in general... the only up is SUV’s.

great review, solid 4 stars up to 11:15 where it turns into indefectible JayEmm 5 star analysis, McLaren if your watching make notes.

OMG...loving the colour...McLaren week is going to get me in trouble with my wife...cos I can't stop watching RU-vid! :-D

You're giving me my daily dosis of british motoring journalism I've been missing out on since Clarkson, May and Hammond left Top Gear... I've been watching your channel for a few months now and finally subscribed... really enjoy your videos!

5 new and 6 used currently sitting at Mclaren Charlotte, North Carolina.

I’m in America, my local dealer has at least three 600LTs and four 720Ss on the lot, bunch of Aston Martins also, all new and not moving for months. lol

Jay, you have a valid point in the real world, that is one with plenty of people who try to milk RU-vid monetisation and quickly moving through cars like they were picking up a new girl in a club each week-end. And true, McLaren aren't good at the game of building the drama, playing mind games, la-di-da. However from the days of Ron Dennis, they never particularly set out to play that game, hence why the car "only" comes with alcantara carpet and yellow belts. As a purist I think that's fantastic, it's way more pure than any Huracan that looks out of Ridge Racer and it's a closer reminder of cars like the 997 GT3 ClubSport or RS. Now regarding having some stock of cars or not limiting numbers, this can be different from country to country. Personally I think it's great that you can buy the car without the stupidity of people buying them to "flip" them. That's such a stupid lame way to make money, seriously people should just go and get a real job at the Royal Mail sorting office, do something useful rather than being a parasite. For example in USA certain buyers change their mind if they have to wait too long for a car, the new-school is very impatient. Limiting numbers has been a popular gimmick recently with any model and I actually APPLAUD Porsche once they decided they were just going to mess around with manual gearboxes as well just to shake it up for those losers who buy cars like buying gold. Even Warren Buffet says that the only true appreciating assets are stocks and shares of industrial goods that generate growth. Sure the 288 GTO etc were built in ltd numbers but at the time that was in keeping with the fact that early Ferraris (think 166M) were always build in the hundreds and had various carrozzerias doing different versions. Now I'm sure Ford will even build its S-Max "Vignale" in Limited numbers just to create some new product line to get buyers to "invest". My 3 or 4 take-aways: 1) It's perfectly legit to dislike all the Shmees and JWW out there for wanting to make a quick buck as an alternative to Henry Catchpole or Dickie Meaden. Sorry guys, you can buy cars but you can't buy professionalism and a touch of down to earth class 2) Building and buying cars to stock like gold bullion or for boasting or just general "look me, I wear a Vacheron and own a ltd edition Senna" is wasting people's time. You can do it but cars are engineering machines made to be driven 3) nobody should give a monkey's if a 600LT or GT3 is ltd numbers or not. Sure, it devalues the car price, but it makes no difference to its merits. As Tiff Needell once said when driving the Zonda R, "They should have government-run Zondas". Ok yes then people would not think they're special... 4) The LT is an excellent car and hats of to Antonio Gonzales and the team who developed the dynamics (plus all the engineers who developed the other models leading to it, Mattia Saluzzo with Chris Goodwin and Leonardo Altieri and many more) 5) not aimed at anyone here or to JayEmm but aimed at countless annoying youtubers: if you didn't buy an LT you're not a good enough driver for it, you don't put your money where your mouth is, you're in it purely for short term gain and most of all people shouldn't be wasting time watching that content. Jay, love your videos. Keep it up. Your viewpoint is always appreciated and worth watching every single time. Happy driving mate! Ciao.

17:52 Monotone sound? What monotone sound? I love that high pitched wail of these modern McLaren V8 exhaust sounds ever since they were introduced in the 675LT. I could go as far as saying this car sounds just like a 675LT 😲 Spine tinglingly exciting - for a turbocharged V8 engine.

I have a 570s, as I see it the reason people are cautious to commit are depreciation and a lack of consistent quality control. And I believe those two are related as well.

Mclaren has always been the car brand for me that you admire, but never could spend actual money on. I mean after their massive engineering failures on many cars, the brand has a pretty shitty 2nd hand value overall. Massive sticker prices and basically half value after a year.

After you running up to the camera between the two cars, I was expecting you to just say "It's..."

We simply don’t live in a world where you can mass produce quarter of a million dollar cars.

You deserve more subs ! Great work.

I went into Redline in Yorkshire September time and they had 3 LT's with limited mileage...I believe not one has been sold (strikes me as people aren't interested particularly at the price).

Mac squandered an opportunity. I live in Vegas and for the aircon to not work on a NEW CAR . Yeah hard pass

Interesting what you say about the stock levels of McLaren cars. I was at a large prestige car storage facility last week and they had dozens upon dozens of unsold McLaren’s over two floors. They'd been there a while too showing dust on their clear plastic cover sheets and packed so tight over many hundreds of square metres of storage facility. I love the idea of a Mac and could get in to a lower model in the range but too many stories of TVR type niggles and over manufacture. At the price, no thank you.

I'm thinking of getting an LT and currently driving a 991.2 GT3, smart choice to sell the GT for the LT?

First 30 seconds: this is how you hold an audiences attention for 30 seconds

excellent really loving your channel mate its like a breath of fresh to me after watching the same car channels for years and years that just seem, well, boring now...by the way whats the music you put with the fire breathing exhausts? i need to hear it in full cheers

True story, here in Sweden there are a couple on sale. though from different dealers, some are on big discounts already. like new MSRP is around 350K Euros. cheapest one is around 270K... with close to delivery miles on it

Another video! Great. :) Not that I hate McLaren, I love how they look and how fast they are, but damn how they've messed up so much things from small to BIG problems.

I dig the music choice during those nighttime-shots.

Hi what camera are you using, the one that can be seen mounted to the windscreen?

Worth it for the Flames alone!!! I’m guessing the flames are on the Up-shifts ?

I don't know much about cars and so I was wondering if there's a consensus on which brand\make is the best?

Great vids - are you in Lincolnshire on this vid? Looks like the Lincolnshire countryside. Near to Woodhall Spa - that sort of way?

Hi. Just found your channel. Great video so have subscribed. BTW, what camera do you use please. ( not the go pros ). Thanks.

I’d buy it idc if there’s problems along the way as long if it’s in my possession I’d be happy and honored by how this stunning fast machine is

Another brilliant and entertaining review from Jay.

Just done a deal on an unregistered 600LT coupe, VERY high MSO spec (coloured exterior carbon) - £58k off the OTR price!

Nice Fast Show throwback at the start ;)

When you hear that people (who by the way love supercars) don't want to buy one of the greatest supercars you can probably get, only because it hasn't the "right" production number (or at least allegedly hasn't) something is very wrong with the mindset of these people. They confuse cars, which are something to enjoy, with stocks, which are there to invest into or speculate with.

so you have driven the 720s ...the 570s and now the 600LT.....which of these three cars would you buy now and why?

Was that Billy Bunter driving that car?? I love the yellow tie.

Great points. Bottom line for me. I dont care how many that made in super car standards. I would buy one regardless of the numbers.

Cannot wait for the review of the Exige Cup 430!

Agree 100% with your conclusion. Truly awesome car but they mis-handled the launch.

Great video JayEmm:) any idea on how many left handlers are out there??

Here I am, sitting in Los Angeles, where I have lived for the past 20 years, and I click on a video where you drive a McLaren around Eye, where I went to high school!

600LT is my dream car and I know there are so many horror stories but I love it. Can’t wait to get one one day

"....two months." Of HELL! 😂 🙄😞 Exhaust flames at night accompanied by metal music.👍

My question is how long it'll take for the centre of the rear wing to melt or catch fire..........

Jay, When you say geometry is off, do you mean steering geometry? What should my mechanic check for on a 675LT?

The best investments are those other people miss at the time. You get them at a bargain. That seems true of this car.

The McLaren dealership in Houston, Texas has nine 600LT spiders for sale as I type this. I had been wondering what someone else's take might be as to why McLaren had not sold them. And I didn't ask the dealer or any of its representatives because, well, you know, I didn't expect that they would give me the real skinny.

Sad day for supercars when owning one is all about the value now and when you sell...

3:40 : insert "how dare you" greta meme... sorry couldn't resist

Great video. We are collecting ours tomorrow. Thanks for the review 👍

Screw that car!!! How are all the comments not about that 🔥 SHIRT!!! I would be proud to stand next to you anywhere!!

What is my choice when I have more than half a dozen McLaren 600lt listed on pre-woned Bulletin？

Seeing this makes me lust for an Artura, though. The V8's drone is a thing, and the hybrid system will probably sort that out.

What goes around, comes around! I didn't know McLarens were bad until I saw your reviews...!!! 🙂👍

Hi Jay, very enjoyable vid..in parts I agree but would you consider this. Porsche GT 3/RS, Ferrari e.g Speciale were produced over a time period as opposed to specific numbers and they sold out. I am personally not convinced that the Sports’s series warranted an LT variant, perhaps buyers felt the same? I also think the 600LT was launched in challenging economics times..so my thoughts are no smoking gun, but a combination of factors. Keep up the great content 👍

I'm not sure how true this is, but I vaguely remember someone saying that the 488 Pista Spider was a similar deal. They weren't limiting them to a particular number, just to a particular length of time for builds. McLaren have gone down the same route, without realising that they're not Ferrari. Ferrari will sell out and people will buy them because they're Ferrari. McLaren don't have that same level of heritage or prestige. They can't sell cars on reputation alone. They still have some work to do in all aspects of the business, it seems.

As always a great Vlog 👍 but my god that Spec is a tasteful as that shirt 🙈😜, each to there own lol. I personally like the looks of the body but it certainly shouldn't wear a LT badge, it doesn't have a long tail. I think one of the major issues with McLaren is the "RU-vid" stories of bad reliability and poor aftersales.

When does the rear spoiler melt or catch fire?

Fire 🔥 out of exhaust so bad ass love it, but the interior looks like out of a kit car

I like the sleeker back look on the McLaren 570. I don’t really care for a spoiler unless it’s a dedicated race car.

You do great reviews! Subbed!

Hope this week ends with the mighty F1 😂

Do the exhaust flames burn the spoiler?

Reputation is everything with a car company, and Mclaren, their reputation is to make fast, super fast, super expensive sports cars that no one can drive to the limit with on public roads, that no one wants to live with because they keep going back to the shop for problems. Hence why the classic car market full of old school manuals and slower more thematic cars, are popin' like crazy. As atleast with those you get an icon you've always dreamed of and who in this modern age can honestly say they've dreamed of owning one of the non halo mclarens, its like dreaming to own a hurican when you could have had a diablo, its not even in the same league no matter what the figures say! Hell honestly the only mclaren I think that people have really wanted to own was the P1, while the Senna's hit and miss as you either like that track focused purpose based design or you dont, and outside of that despite the Napier green exterior paint you have on one of these, that is literally named after the Joker in the 89 batman film, most enthusiasts dont know it even exists as to them its just another mclaren with a bigger number behind it rather than something special like those two models are as its the same problem plaguing porsche, you have too many damn models and not enough differentiation to tell you is this the one you really want or not. hence why the most sold porsche is the damn SUV, as you know what it is right out the gate, the rest you have to be a nerd spec person to even know which way is up!

So little downforce? If both the driver and passenger stick a hand out the window, they'd improve it by a lot...

Im looking for a gently used version of this car. It shoots flames for crying out loud i love it!!!

when this car came out i was annoyed at the name! its not a Longtail, the McLaren F1 had an elongated front and rear, hence the nomenclature LT, but the 600LT doesnt have an extended body! i also assume it hasnt sold well is its looks! i love the top mount exhausts but the rest of the car just doesnt look right

675lt one of my fav maccys ever, are you goin to review one too ?

If l had the cash it would never be the company that l would choose to buy from for sure !!

If you look at the used market now, the spiders are selling very strong, from £175k - So I'm not entirely sure this run was a failure anymore ^_^

how about a review on the bmw I8?

Great vlog bro. My bro has a black one in California 👍🏻

9:46 You say to "do your geo" if you own a McLaren. But what do you mean by that? How do you "do your geo(metry)?". Is it some kind of suspension adjustment? I own a 600LT and it does have a bit of understeer at low speeds. Can that be fixed?

Does the spoiler not get damaged from the flames from the exhaust?

The problem with the 600lt, is that the 720s was too good. On paper, the 720s was to be the supercar, super performance, but less track focused. But yet, it also wiped the floor with the 600lt on track too. Then what was the point of the 600lt?

Those exhausts are potato magnets! They're just crying out for a couple of King Edwards to be jammed into them. I like my baked spuds with salt and butter. I understand that an all-titanium McLaren grilling rack (for burgers, kebabs, chops and sausages) is a £43,000 option. Bargain.

cracking review, well dodgy shirt

How often do you have to replace the rear spoiler after the exhaust melts it?

The light display from the exhaust is extraordinary.