Here's Why the UK Navy's Bofors Naval Gun Combination is Superior to the Phalanx CIWS in Any Case 

The Type 31E /Arrowhead 140 is based in the Danish Iver Huitfeldt-class air defense frigate, which has two 76mm canon in tbe feont ans a Millenium 35mm CIWS in the rear.

Merah Putih Class Frigrate of Indonesia (Redesign AH140) will use 2 CIWS (front and back) Gokdeniz 35 mm double barrel with atom super brust

I bet it's already nicknamed 'The Dalek'

Yh they've already said the type 31 will be from the start for close in support using the laser dragon fire system like the type 26 will be & the type 45 will get it fitted at the same time when they go in for refit to install the extra vls systems etc

In 1906, HMS Dreadnought was commissioned. For nearly 40 years afterwards. Experts claimed that big guns and heavy armor, were the premier combat force, at sea. During WW-II these experts were proven wrong. Today the experts on naval warfare are in a similar position. Technology and operational parameters have changed. A ship capable of destroying satellites in space. Could be seriously damaged by a 50,000 dollar drone. That's a problem.

Wonder if they’ll install the versions which have no reload magazine.

They should add Martlet missile launchers to the 40mm guns.

It is called the Royal Navy, not UK Navy

That Mk III gun in the opening sequence reminds me an awful lot of the Daleks from Dr Who. Exterminate, exterminate, exterminate!

Not enough guns. Boat swarm to port, flying drone swarm to starboard and a couple of either up the wazzu and boat goes out of action.

Bofors 40mm was (and still is) a very successful system that’s in use in a wide variety of roles by military forces all over the world. Reliable, accurate, and provides a lot of firepower in a relatively compact package. The 40mm will take out any enemy vehicle up to a main battle tank, and will likely severely damage most of those. With high-explosive shells, an effective anti-troop weapon as well.

Phalanx is a fairly cheap self contained system but it's range is pretty short it would take out the missile but the debris could still inflict some damage

Navies are really bricking themselves after seeing the Ukrainian drone ships at work.

I can see the appeal of 40mm and 57mm Its very easy to make programmable 40mm and 57mm rounds as well equip them with data link so when fired against missile, they know exactly when to detonate Making it less spray and pray and more 1 shot 1 kill. Additionally you can equip it with multiple magazines allow the gun switch between ammo types for various targets But I would keep the 57mm but trade the 40mm for the Germany 35mm

When speaking of gun calibers you use the singular "millimeter," not the plural "millimeters." It's a 57 millimeter gun, not a 57 millimeters gun.

They missed out the most important ammunition, “madfires” and “ALaMO” which are continually guided during their flight time making them extremely effective

Think bigger main gun at least a 75mm.

Cannot understand why either of these guns were not considered for the Arafura class opv's. Sadly the decision by the RAN to short change them in every area means that they will never serve in the RAN in the OPV role and will more than likely be handed to Border Force.

BAE should start making new military guns again.

Even tho UK spent decades developing the CTA 40mm together with France. I guess the CTA is just too expensive.

Bofors 57mm mk3: 220 rpm Bofors 40mm mk4: 300 rpm 😳 And they still have about a 10km range. And they fire bofors 3P

Who made the FOI request?

hmm 57mm does seem big enough for a main calibre deck gun, should be more like 105mm or 120mm

Stőd Bofors, bli kanon 🍺

I dont know if it can be called superior, Phalanx already have saved a few warships of potentially letal missile attacks while the Bophors as far as I know is yet to be tested on that function.

For a growing variety of reasons. Mostly missile armed ships, are fast becoming obsolete. Missiles have their advantages. Until they are used up, or are not practical to use, on all threats. Like a missile designed to hit supersonic missiles and aircraft. Against a small inexpensive drone, flying or otherwise. As Moskva demonstrated, a large load of high tech missiles can easily become an equally spectacular fire at sea. Rather bad, for the health and welfare of the crew. A variety of weapons are needed. Guns don't have the range of missiles, but they don't need to. Energy weapons are new and exciting, until you realize how much fuel it takes to power them. So, energy weapons won't be too practical, until fusion powered ships are available.

The RN should've went with RAM or Phalanx for close-in defense.

to me, just to me, 30mm munition with an airburst fuze and API indeed a mix of three different rounds: two HE but one with impact fuze and the other with the airburst fuze, closing with API as third one, so even a single feeding gun can fire a short 9 rounds burst with 3 of each kind (more then 20 burst with 200 rounds ready to fire) are the easy and cheap solution for hardened surface drones, suicide boat or pirates, flying drones up to 2 nautical miles. You must only select a 30mm mount with good optics and stabilization! I'm considering price of mount, price of ammunition, easy installation on board, weight. Phalanx 1b have same range and capabilities about, but is heavier (even if it could be just on board), fire a much bigger amount of rounds per burst which are way more expensive, so live it for missile only! Again to me, Leonardo 76mm gun is better (have a look to sinkex exercise) because offer not to expensive Dart antimissile round and the similar Vulcano round a 20 nautical miles as antiship or land support capable. Italian Navy was the first to believe in 40mm caliber as anti-missiles last ditch gun capable of destroying them at about 2 nautical miles from the ship instead of less then 1 of first Phalanx, but are decades it shifted on 76mm as much better solution! One last question: why a logistical nightmare duplicating rounds? It's not easier have all three 57mm guns. No penetrating deck variant of Leonardo 76mm gun can fire just over half minute cause it have 72 rounds ready to fire. I think is a clever choice the normal one not for 85 rounds capabilities but because it could be reloaded from inside the ship. It make no difference on large ships as the modern one. Same funny "lie" as the lighter BAE 127mm gun at 20 ton instead of 34 of Leonardo 127mm LW (lightweight 😁) on 10.000 ton ships!!! 14 ton difference on 10.000 ton!?! While depending on barrel position the italian one can fire from 28 to 32 rounds per minute and reloaded accordingly with an automated Ammunition Handling System, the american one can fire the whole 20 rounds ready to fire it have and then 10 rounds. I believe it's clear how much US Navy think a gun is important (because they are "the navy" and have planes and missiles for everyone!)

155 MLRS

After 40 years, someone comes up with something better than phalanx?

The Italians have been making this choice for the CISW for years. The rotary barrels have a range of only 2500 meters. But also compared to the RIM 120 RAM: 900K DOLLARS for a single missile. The Vulcano Projectiles 10 times less... and from the results against the HOUTIs, WHERE the RIM 120 missiles on the German frigate misfired. and the rotating barrels hit the target only a few meters from the American ship. WE ITALIANS ARE THE LEARNERS OF GIULIO CESARE..THE COUNTRY OF MODERN SPECIAL FORCES, THE COUNTRY OF FINCANTIERI, LEONARDO, BERETTA, BENELLI (THE RIFLE USED FOR THE T. REX AND THE TERMINARS), OF THE SUPERCAR S, 😅

Really ? 2 40 and a 57 mm gun thats cost cutting to the extreme ok ISH for defence but what about offense maybe we will write a stiff note and ask them to move close without shooting back please

Not sure why they do not just have a Phalanx as well, afterall it is a fairly self contained system.

Not enough guns for full combat. You must not have just high tech

The reality of modern combat is that a capital ship would need all of them. 57mm, 40mm, Phalanx, and RIM 116. It would also need EW/Laser/Maser for soft kills. Line of sight defense should prioritized direct energy over bullets and missiles. The challenge for the UK Navy is you don't have the money. The problem with my US Navy is we waste billions on junk the MIC foist upon us.

The US used the same 57mm Bofors on their Littoral Combat Ships, which they have since found unsuitable for combat. Too easy to armor against for anything heavier than a speedboat.

Why are the ships named Type XX? What happened to giving ship classes proper names like Leander Class? Are Royal Navy afraid of pissing off Gen.Z?

Big mistake have both

It will make a nice new reef. Hi tech fish home.

Not bad at all. As usual the Royal Navy has it's act together. These weapons should be added to US Navy ships. Where ever space is available. Especially to the CVNs I would still like to see a 40 mm bofors gatling gun. Similar to Phalanx, but with a lot more range, and striking power. Both gun mounts have the advantage of being light weight.

Not accurate presentation....very confusing ...

Sounds like a poor man’s CWIS

Waste of money

This gun is already obsolete. Point defense guns are a very limited last line of defense and are no match for hypersonic missiles. You need to shoot down the attacking aircraft a couple hundreds of miles away before it launches its missiles. The British lost ships in the Argentine Falklands war because of this lack of ability. Seems they have still learned nothing from very recent history.

Load of old toash propaganda 😅😅

Why are you keeping Chinese advertisments. I believe this is a Chinese content as well