Here's Why You Should NEVER Buy A BMW M6 Or M5 *V10 Engine Failure* 

The title is wrong. It should be: "Here's Why You Should NEVER Buy A BMW M6 Or M5 for $3,750"

This is me drawing BMW Vanos....... First draw a wallet, second draw a vacuum cleaner.... That's how it works

You actually CAN see a broken heart through a screen Disappointment is one of the worst feelings

Tyler's Vid : "Here's why you should never buy a BMW ever." JR's Vid: "I bought a cheap BMW M6!" JR's Next Vid: "You should never buy a BMW M6."

You said “the car keeps making that noise”. It’s crying because it knows it’s fate.

I remember a BMW enthusiast telling me I should buy an old BMW... So I asked him, “Is it just a matter of doing a bunch of preventative maintenance and then they are reliable?” He’s like, “oh no, they are never reliable...”😂

BMW M6: From smug to surrender in six episodes.

Tyler visiting JR to console him on his loss. That's what friends are for (and not say "I told you so").

M6 and m5 work totaly fine!

The m6 is my absolute favorite grand tourer. I've come close to buying one of these 3 times only to find issues with each one when i went for a test drive. Still an amazing car for the person with very deep pockets lol

My old boss had the m5 version had so many issues with the vanos system. Before it even got enough miles to grenade the engine, from the bearings. It got lemon lawed. He dodged a bullet.

my mechanic loves these things. tried a dozn times to convince me bmw over a challenger. if im goin the dumb money route panamera baby. keep up the great work. the videos are nite and day from last year. persistance pays in life by far. stay safe and take care

Like i said before you have to use ISTA on the S85 , the autel scanners will not tell you the correct codes , also with him using the factory bolts and bearings the risk is high for error , ARP bolts and ACL bearings are a fool proof setup

Heartiest condolences. Don't let it stop you from being ambitious with your builds.

Not so simple: "That's how simple this is. It's a manual transmission but a computer runs it." Another in a long series of steps of overcomplicating things that do not need complicating! Simple: It's a manual clutch and your left foot runs it."

This sounds like a Scotty Kilmer title

I have a 2006 M6 v10 with 140,000+ miles on it and have never had a bearing problem. I do my own oil and have never seen metal in the oil. Also mine has a dual clutch smg. The only problem i have is with batteries. Need to replace every 2 years like clock work. Around the 2 year mark it will start having trouble codes. New battery and coded go away.

Ohhh modern BMW :( That warning "bong" haunts my nightmares.

I love mine and I'll never sell it, keep up with maintenance and you'll be fine. You're right though, buying a cheap one is definitely a ticking time bomb.

Title should be “never buy an M car for less then $4k, chances are it’s a piece of shit”. $20k and up is what m6’s in good condition sell for. Never get one off an independent seller or anywhere else other then a dealership, unless they have service records and very low mileage, and this engine was already failing since his first video on it for all the people with low IQ.

Honestly I’m upset that ppl think bmw are bad cars when there really not. To own a bmw you gotta make sure your on top of the maintenance and it will last you ive owner a few and maintained them well and they rewarded me with good reliability. With bmw you gotta pay to play if you can’t afford the maintenance then get a Toyota or Honda that simple those are cars that can take passed oil changes and all the abuse you can throw at them. German cars are not meant for abuse or to be maintained bad. So yea in short a car is as good as the owner who cars for them 🤷🏽‍♂️

BMW Breaks More Wallets

So sad, JR! Especially after doing the rod bearings.

The intro was hilarious. Getting towed by Primary Josh

Perventative maintnance is key, my buddy has had his E60 M5 for 8 years now and recently bought an M6 V10

And here I thought going into business two months before the pandemic was a stupid Idea. You have made me just slightly better about my impending bankruptcy.

i am sorry for your loss dude, it's hard when it disappoints you

I like how the car would cry from time to time.

you need to question ninja mechanic's judgement now, cause he makes it all sound so simple to fix yet all his cars never get really fixed. ask hoovies. wizard is so smart to avoid the bmw quicksand

doing an LS swap is the only way to fix a BMW

Watch it just be a crank position sensor 🤣🤣 causing the stalling and no start issue. Vanos is another issue good move getting out before you got upside down in it!

Tyler genuinely looks sad in this, he never does for his own cars.

As much as it pains me to say "I told you so" , I told you so. Bimmer used to make a wonderful drivers car. The more the technology increased and the engineers cheaped out with plastic parts the worse things got. Sad times for BMW.

This is the second BMW engine that car ninja has been cursed by. This and the Alpina right?

If your going to buy either this or the M5 V10 I would not recommend buying a cheap example without full service history from Bmw , I researched and waited until the right M5 came along ( M5 late 2007 LCI model) 3 years later apart from spending only £620 on throttle actuators with better circuit boards nothing else has needed replacement it’s been a fantastic car to own and run very reliable indeed, I’ve had the oil sampled to check for wear and tear which came back perfect.. a point to make regarding pre LCI models is exactly what’s happened here but the main reason this has happened comes down to neglect ie; reving the engine when it’s cold .. this engine and gearbox needs to warmed up for about fifteen minutes or so and when purchasing the all important 1200 mile running in service needs to be seen in the service booklet , along with preventative maintenance and servicing by a mechanic that knows these cars ( I have mine serviced at Bmw which is similar to a specialist prices that’s why I continue with Bmw plus it keeps the all important paperwork in check if I ever sold it ) don’t get me wrong if any work is carried out like for instance the throttle actuators that needed replacing I have an M specialist that works on my car who is fantastic and considering Bmw wanted £3500 he fitted mine for £620 inclusive in an hour and a half while I waited and that was on a hot engine which I thought was amazing 😳 ... since this work was carried out it’s been faultless which was a massive relief 😅 These cars are becoming quite rare in the U.K. because of situations like this which is sad really but at the same time the good examples like my one are only going to go up in price over the years ... it’s a shame this happened to this guys car ( what do you expect for $3750 ) ... just don’t be put off by the scaremongers that sit in their chairs with their laptops spouting rubbish about these cars and how unreliable they are bearing in mind that 99.9% have never owned one 🥴😭😎👍🇬🇧 Forgot to mention I did have the oil cooler changed ( located under the front bumper) I think it was a stone chip but anyway it was £300 fitted so again not expensive..... I hope all this info helps and if anyone has more info on these cars please share as every bit of information helps towards owning one of these fantastic M cars .. there is a very knowledgeable bloke on RU-vid called M tech Guy ( I think that’s what he’s called ) who’s British and lives in New Zealand that owns an M5 and works on his car very good mechanic and also the Bmw doctor from the U.K. 👌

Just throwing rod bearings in never lasts anyway.

Too bad, the car looks mean and I bet it was amazing in its time. I'll just stick to my cheap Honda lol.

I like how hoovie says you're full name like some super villain

You bought one for 3.5k, if you bought a low mileage one for 20k you wouldn't have that problem.

BMW ought to be ashamed of themselves.

I have my e60 m5 and I'm at 181k now and love the thing did bearings at 128k and its been great. I honestly think the s85 was more so designed around being pushed and I think the damage is caused by short drives and being revved hard when cold.

Tyler's face when you told him you were coming out even lol

Noooooo I’m so sad about this!! Was so hopeful to see this one running around town. What a bummer.

I was about to add 2008 BMW M6 to my garage and your video was recommended. Thank you!

Called it. There was no way in hell this car was ever going to get into working shape with 3k in repairs.

People whining and they don't know much about the S85 engine. When you get a 13 year old 507 hp V10 supercar which has an engine derived from F1 cars, you need to do your research, i'm gonna sum it up for you: 1. Rod bearings are consumables, metal flakes destroys oil pumps, vanos pump, wherever that oil gets with those flakes it will break anything. 2. SMG pump it's consumable, it was a recall for them and even after that it didn't solve the issues. Or tear it apart, manually fix the electrical motor with better brushes and stuff. Don't expect just to drop bearings in, oil and 2 lines of oil and this engine is new again. You need to change the vanos pump, the oil pumps and vanos solenoids. Revise mechatronics on the SMG gearbox, and mechatronics solenoids (it's $500 job to make it new) . VANOS pump drives high oil pressure to the VANOS solenoids which move the timing on cams. Sound beneath the car when you unlock it is the SMG pump accumulating pressure. It's no gamble, it's just knowledge.

BMW's are engineered to grenade after the 5 year lease period ends. Makes perfect sense if you think about it.

JR, you had me convinced at 'four oil pumps'. Bavarian Motor Works is an oxymoron.

I say this from the bottom of my heart: F

“Cars your don’t own yet, they’re broken” had me rolling😂😂

You should've learned your lesson after the 7 series

This M6, a proper combination of drunken German engineering and cheap Chinese parts. This car shows it in such clear perfection that I am still shocked ANYONE purchases any BMW to this day.

Its amazing how easily a modern BMW becomes junk so quickly and easily. Very disposable cars. What about doing a classic 1970s, 80s or 90s BMW instead? Something that has a payoff?

I only live a few miles from J and J. Time to start my own hooptie channel.

Good thing this guy has RU-vid, he's bleeding money every single video.

Maybe the profit on the Kia will help offset this misery.

I too am flummoxed that didn't lose any money on this boat-anchor. You are perhaps the only guy in history who owned both a BMW and a Range Rover and has walked away unscathed.

Take a shot every time he looks at us, then looks away while talking. You bout to be drunk af :D

All you have to do is look at the price he paid, $3,700 or so. These cars sell for 20-30k when they're taken care of.

Even when your crazy ex tries to kill you a little part of you wants to stay with them, life of a bmw v10 owner

Man as much as i like ninja this is the 2nd time I’ve seen him work on a car and it fail completely later...

Thank you to J&J for saving JR!

I've had my 2010 M6 for 8 years now (knock on wood) I've had no issues other than changing plugs and coils.... these cars have such a bad rep... if you stay on maintenance and change things before they break, you will be more than happy with it

House of broken dreams.... i died

the noise you hear is the SMG pump priming, the fact that is priming constantly is not good. So even if the engine was running correctly you would have SMG pump issues down the road. Also the 2 aux pumps are there to keep oil in the sump during high G cornering.

New cool T-shirt: Front: BMW oil pumps diagram. Back: "BMW time bomb. (See front for details.)"

My sympathies. I honestly thought this M6 could be saved. JR is probably right in never fix an engine with major problems. Car Wizard has mentioned GM AFM 5.3 are to avoid as they usually cost $4500 to fix. I learned that the hard way fixing my 07 after head gasket failure at 125000 miles. I paid to fix it. The garage that did it didn't do it right. They tried getting me to spend another $7000 on another engine after spending $5500 fixing my old engine that developed oil pressure out of range. I declined. With the help of a friend's hooptie salvage Oldsmobile 88, I was able to wait a couple months and finally contact an engine specialist who figured out my low oil pressure at idle. Bad valley cover the original garage never replaced. So $6000 on repairs, my money pit of a truck is still going. Best of luck on future projects. Ultimately you showed it does pay to have friends in the salvage business.

Sorry to say I saw this coming (after almost buying one myself, but running away once I read up on these monsters). The Vanos and rod bearings are the nails in the coffin on these cars. BMW made sure of that by jacking up the prices on vanos parts, especially the 4 little solenoids at the front of the motor, which originally were about $180 each, until Beemer jacked them up to $1900 each! Just showing their faithful customers some of that BMW love.....

It's probably the vanos solenoids especially since you had contaminated oil but I wouldn't bet too much money on it.

Engineered obsolescence in all its glory 🖕bmw

One of those smaller oil pumps is for lubricating the high pressure oil pump and the other small oil pump is to lubricate the small oil pump that lubricates the high pressure oil pump. That noise it keeps making is the sound broken BMWs make when they mock their owner, there is a small shredder in the engine bay near the intake and it wants you to insert hundred dollar bills

Better hold on to that Kia a bit longer. You're running out of running vehicles.

I feel like I need to put something straight for all the commenters here saying all BMWs are garbage. The reason most of these cars are money pits is because the second, third, fourth etc owner didn't care for them. If you get one with few owners, decently maintained ALL of its life, they won't break your wallet. M50s and M52s are legendarily reliable even under abuse, as long as you warm them up properly. I've owned my E36 328i coupe project for 6 years now, and have a high mileage, beat up, many owners E36 Touring 316i as a daily driver for 2 years. For both cars I've only had 2 issues in those 6 years: The radiator started leaking on the coupe, and 1 rear shock on the touring started leaking. According to the internet, every single component on the cooling system of those cars is "like glass", fragile as hell... The radiator on the coupe was the original one from a 177,000 mile 328i Touring, that I used as a parts donor. While the 316i Touring is the exact car I'm telling you never to buy, it's working perfectly fine, headliner isn't even falling down!

JR, you were so fortunate to break even on this project. As I’ve said before BMW = Break My Wallet.

ive been looking at this m6 for 2 years and they're all 18-22k euros. HE got one for $3k and just needs to put in like.. what? $6k? and the car is totally sorted? that's a deal! he's got himself an m6 for $10k like what.... he could have totally restored it and sold it and got like $10k on it lol

I've only really been into Automotive YT for a couple of years, but I'd like to think that at some point some staffer at BMW reports to their execs that "ya know, a lot of our cars show up on these YT channels and they're always either completely broken from the start, or still fail after well meaning people put insane amounts of work and money into them. This might affect our reputation with future potential buyers".

I bought my 2007 E63 M6 10 years ago, I never in tended using my car as a daily driver . It's always garaged there is currently 26 thousand miles on it so it drives and feels like a new car..I spent considerably more buying my car 10 years ago Dollar equivalent possibly 70 thousand. That car you have was not looked after the door card is a mess ! Less than 4 thousand dollars in fairness what did you expect ? That car needs a lot spent on it to get it right again. My DSC pump went twice ! Fortunately it's going perfectly now ! If you want one of these you need to buy one that has been looked after properly with the lowest mileage one you can find !

When you buy a car as poorly abused and neglected as that car was you can’t blame the brand when it breaks. Not saying they don’t have issues but all BMW’s require a lot of preventive maintenance. If you do that, they can be very reliable. Simple...Don’t buy one if you can’t afford the maintenance.

Don't do it. Unless you're planning to rebuild, or buy a new engine.

Even when you're taking a L you're doing better than Hoovie 🤣

Here is what happens when you buy an M6 that was driven with a ton of copper filings in the oil and then abandoned. The intermittent sound is the SMG pump building pressure in anticipation of being driven (door opened).

BMW's are absolute junk. Great to drive. Sometimes kind to the eye. Always a maintenance nightmare.

Bought an e64 m6 with a true manual and 54k for $22k last year. Immediately put new rod bearings and vanos, turner motorsports package, and a meisterschaft gtc exhaust plus x-pipe. As our weekender car, it's just a blast, much more soul than our 996 carrera. Gas mpgs? terrible. Oil changes? $100 bux done myself w royal purple. For a 3rd vehicle, it can't be beat.

Break My Wallet

Next JR video: how to have an endless network of people willing to do stuff for free/cheap and/or bail you out

So Sad. Don’t give up throw more money into it.

BMW's are junk, Lost my ass on 2 of them and vowed to never do it again. They are strictly lease and dump cars.

If you see a nice used BMW...low miles, one owner, clean...do a 180 and walk away briskly...

We’ve come a long way when Korean cars like Hyundai and Kia are more reliable than German brands like bmw Mercedes and audi

I was so hoping this thing could be de-riced and put back on the road. Bummer.

You’re wrong sir. This is the best engine bmw ever made. Just keep it maintained

My Audi A4 was the same, always a problem. Glad I got rid of it.

Sorry for your loss. I own the same car of 7 years. I think it boils down to how these cars are driven and maintained. I've had minimal issues. I don't drive it much and my mechanic is awesome.

"20 bar, which is like 400 psi" "Like a thousand psi" 20 bar = 290 psi 😅

That's the nicest looking broken down POS I've ever seen. Normally any of the broken down POS I've had, definitely looked the part. Sorry for you JR, breaking even is ok, but we know how much you wanted to have this in your stable. Cheers for the content.

LS Swap into M6!!!

It's like the world's worst Turo rental, ever. _You can have it for free for 2 weeks, but you have to wrench on it non-stop to drive it to Dairy Queen once._

few days ago it seemed to be the better one vs hoovies e38 😂 i guess the only winning move with an out of warranty bimmer is not to play 😆

I know what I’m buying now. Always wanted a V10 M5, but I think I’ll direct my attention to M6s now

BMW seems to be one of few brands that just cannot be brought back from the edge of death