Hero Wars Mobile | Dungeon 101 

I hate when my wife gets mad at me for being lazy. I mean, it’s not like I did anything.

Great info Charlie! I've been doing Dungeon runs daily for months, but I learned a few things from this video. I normally push as far as I can each day, but now I will reevaluate my strategy. Thank you!

Cannot wait for dungeon 102: a discussion of choices. How to decide which battles to take. Maybe even a reference to how to get much more. I have heard you reference a “trick” in livestream about how to almost do the dungeon in perpetuity. Would love to see a video explaining. Thanks for all you contribute to the community Charlie!

when I started to play, I made the mistake to stop just before the savepoint. It is much smoother now to stop AFTER using the savepoint. And doing the door after this, will grant you one additional titanit (and 25 potions) daily

From personal experience I have always noticed whenever I use a certain element i always get the opposite element as the soul rewards! For instance if i use earth titans I'll get fire titan souls as the reward...although i think the specific titan is random meaning among Ignis, Vulcan or Moloch!

By doing 21 floors (from 241 to 261), you will get 91 titanite and 400 titan potions, and if you can push harder, by doing 31 floors (from 241 to 271) you will get 151 titanite and 650 titan potions. That extra heroes battle gives you more titan potions. On facebook, if you have the favour active, 91 becomes 241 and 151 becomes 301.

When you start the Dungeon crawl each day the battle order will always be... Hero >> Titan* >> Hero >> Hero >> Titan ..............................................................V Titan

I disagree about one thing in your video, I consider that you should always play the hero battle that follow the last checkpoint you reach. The result is you get 91 or 151 titanite and a additional 50 potions. It isn’t much but there is no downside considering how easy the hero battles are in the dungeon.

Can I add a bit of advice? I found that not using AUTO feature with titans and timing their ultis(even in the previously cleared levels) makes room for 150 titanite a day aka 2 checkpoints way more doable(so far it hasn’t failed me). For example if you use auto and the enemy team is on their last Titan you wouldn’t use Eden’s ulti or you would consider keeping it for the next battle. Hope this makes sense :)

Thanks very Much Charlie was looking for a video like this to motivate all the guildies in our Guild!

The dungeon difficulty only increase when you open the gate for the first time. For example: if you repeat 19 gates every day, the difficulty will stay the same. So the optimal route is 29 gates or 39 gates

That's exactly what I commented in your last dungeon video. I like to play safe so I have more "new" levels to play next day so rewards on those new levels are double.

Can you put together a video on what to do if you're struggling to get to 75 titanite each day? For example, I've seen a number of recommendations to go until you get to the save point and stop without clicking the button. That way you can do the same run over and over again while you collect potions and build up your titans to get back to 75 daily. What isn't clear to me is what the trigger is to increase the difficulty of the enemy titans. Is it simply facing them or is it tied to the save button? The recommendation to not click it until you're strong enough seems to point to the latter. Thoughts?

I don’t feel like your strategy is right... the first scenario should always give more titanite to the guild since the amount of titanite you get increases as you progress in dungeon in the same day. If you do the same level the next day, you get less than you could have. For instance, I believe the first level gives you about 35 titanite, second level 40ish, and so on. Plus, I don’t think the new players know where their limits are, so they may end up wasting their chances

You explained this perfectly...I don't know if it would make sense to a new player unfamiliar but you explained exactly how I run the dungeon and what happens when I try to push too far...I alternate 77 titanite one day and 84 the next. I stop when I hit that 75 reward goal and usually if I push any further than that because the guild needs a little extra to hit a goal, I end up tanking my progress the next day and miss out on my 75 titanite reward...anyways...good job, well done!

I REALLY needed this info. Thank you so much Charlie!

Nice video again. But have question that none can answare. When I dont hit save point and will do same 10 levels over and over again, will titans power always rise or they stay the same?

The most effective way is completing the next titan battle after the savepoint and then stop. This is doable most of the time and gives you 96 titanite a day. That is only 5 more but let you secure one or other milestone if enough follow this tactic. even if you loose this fight you are not far away from the savepoint.

Charlie, I think the information you shared in this video is not correct. At least for the mobile version. 1. The difficulty of each element only depends on the number of levels completed of the same element that is before the save point you started (this I personally verified) - so no, doing a few more levels after the checkpoint will not make it more difficult next day, as long as you don't reach the next save point. 2. The difficulty does not only depend on what you did yesterday (otherwise if you can't do 150 shouldn't you try to do nothing a day and hope next day it become significantly easier? 150+0 is better than 75+75 in terms of spheres acquired). As said above it depends on the number of levels completed for each kind. So assuming you do each kind roughly evenly - looking at the level of the dungeon is actually a good indicator of the difficulty. 3. Therefore, if one wants to minimize the difficulty, doing 90/150 titanites from check point to check point is EXACTLY the worst thing to do - it maximize progression given level played. Trying to get as much double rewards as possible is a TRAP, since you can get the double reward exactly once per level (except for the level at the checkpoint - which if you stop and not hit the checkpoint it gives you double rewards again), so the extra titanites/potion you get from this is always at the expense of new level played and thus the difficulty. In contrast - if you play levels after you reach the save point, those levels will be played again and do not increase your difficulty. If one wants to maximize titanites/potions while minimizing difficulty - one should always stop right at the save point, completing the level, but not click it. 4. So why do people to 90/91/150/151 daily? For the latter two, it is because it is the least number of fights you need to do to get to 150. So if you must get 150 a day, there is no other way. In terms of maximizing returns one should in principle do another 10 and stop at the save point, but that will make the next 150 harder. For the former two, I think it is really just suboptimal. Also most people proposing these are paying players. 5. For a f2p player, I recommend the 93-76 alternating pattern. In the long run you won't even be able to sustain 90 titanites a day. This gives you a few titanites short but will progress you at 50% the speed - making it more sustainable in the long run.

Charlie, could you (or Arcana) ascertain that the difficulty of the dungeon depends on the past fights and not on the level number? In the first case, the best strategy is to stop after the checkpoint, in the second case,you should stop before the checkpoint.

One thing to add, for the hero battles, unless your heroes are at max level, they will eventually lose a battle, but when they lose that battle will be based off team synergy, less synergy, the quicker the A.I. picks a team to defeat yours, longer the A.I. takes to defeat your non max team, better synergy that team has.

Very handy. Wish I had this two months ago! Figured this out the hard way!

*Notes From My Own Discoveries:* ` [Sep. 22, 2020] I have found the opposite to be true: by repeating levels, they get easier, because the enemy titans stay the same, while I level up ` You can retreat without costing you anything, so if you forget to add a titan to the battle, then it is best to retreat, before taking on damage, so that you can try again without sacrificing health ` You can use those free ticket/foreshadow things to foresee whether it is worth fighting, and then choosing to fight without help. This allows you to choose a way to maximize the amount of rage energy that you have left over, which helps you to prepare for the next round. In other words, automatic mode might waste your titan rage energy. ` Accepting our fate is best used on hero battles, since they replenish in health after each battle anyways. ` If you have unlimited ticket things, then it might be worth looking at what the next day's first new battle might bring [i.e.: the first battle that you won't do today]. ` You can actually split your titanite earnings between 2 guild days. Your dominion day likely overlaps 2 guild days. If you want to double your output for a special day, where the team gets together to reach a goal, then you can crawl the dungeon at the end of a dominion day [e.g.: get 75 or 150 tintanite], let the new dominion day start, and then repeat before then end of the guild day for another 75 or 150 titanite. ` You get 1 titanite every day, when you do your minimum of 21 levels every day [21st level is a hero level, and is usually easy, with no health consequences] ` Format For 10 Levels: hero, titan, hero, hero, titan; hero, titan, titan, hero, titan *Notes From The Video:* ` Loot: the repeated levels yield 25&1 and 1&5, then the fresh levels yield 50&2 and 2&10.

I really liked your explanation. I also do not advance on purpose to farm the same 20 lvls each day without activating the save point. The only bad thing is that you end up with 65 titanite so you dont earn the sphere from daily quest but its better than failing the next day horribly

There is nothing better than a Dungeon Crawl.... Helps clear the mind.... "NOW DO THE SPLITS!!!"

Wish there was a way to know which enemy titans were coming next, to avoid back to back battles

I hate this so much that I call this mode “The Infernal Digging”

Great great video always good to get into the info side of each area and really understand it as much as possible

Always do the hero battles. You'll need every single point for your Titans

I agree, that you should stop at a certain point, to have the possibility to succeed the next day. But you should never stop at a checkpoint, you should stop one step before the checkpoint. Then you will stay in easier levels for a longer time and in total this will get you more titanite over time because you can fight more often with the same difficulty.

Fantastic video, Charlie, thanks v.m.! I did not know that tomorrow's battle difficulty will depend on the battles I do today. I don't think I can actually take much advantage of this to select battles differently, since I simply need to send in the two teams I own Totems for. I try to do as few battles as possible with my Fire team, which doesn't have the "flaming tornado of death" and is also far behind in levels after the others...

So glad this video exists now

The nice thing is if you do stop on the new portal then the 2nd new portal every day is exactly 150 and a perfect place to stop.

Good info. I didn’t realize same levels next day will be harder.

While I’m a new player I still enjoy the dungeon; learning the titans and strategy, getting soul stones, and leveling my titans. I can imagine it becoming a complete chore though once they’re maxed.

Very helpful, can't wait to see more about dungeon on facebook!

There were one or two nuggets of info in there that I either didn't know or never noticed. I can't imagine doing dungeon w/out a totem. You mobile guys have it rough for sure.

Charlie, been watching for a while. I was looking to find out a little more regarding selecting the titan battles. For example, is it better to select all titan battles or single element titan battles when given the choice? Is there a way we can predict the single element battles upcoming or is it purely random? Usually, the issue is that my fire titans crap out and my water titans still have the tank left...something like that

Very helpful. Would be nice to have another one to talk about how to level up titants to help with dungeon.

Thx for the helpful video😉 this should help a lot of earlygame players. Btw, I like your team. Is thea that good in that constellation?

Great content. Really appreciate it. Dungeon can get tough!

From checkpoint to checkpoint, 30-60-60. Only do the last round if you think that your titans health is enough

Not sure this is as useful when at higher levels and your focus is on your 5 GW titans. My non-GW titans are well below and I struggle at the higher levels. One battle of just earth titans can take out 2 of them easily.

I was lucky enough to discover this earlier on. I get my 90 titanite daily and my guild does good with that

Good Information... Also maybe you can talk about how to balance a strong Guild War Titan team and being able to be efficient in the Dungeon.

I always beat the titan team at the checkpoint then I ignore the checkpoint, the next day I get to do all those battles and on the last one I get double rewards again, then hit the checkpoint, my guild wants 150/day. The ways in the video are great but betting the titan team at the next checkpoint overall gets me more rewards than stopping anywhere else.

Interesting, that there is a Difference between scenario 1 and 2

1. Don't upgrade titans with emeralds. 2. Do manual attack in the dungeon when your titans have ulties up, even if you can auto. 3. Invest in Supertitans first, then tanks, then ignis and nova. 4. Keep your main team +10/20 levels compared to others. 5. Do as much Titanite as you can, if your guilds aim for 3-4.5k target, if you are alone mostly, do the 75 / 150 per day and stop.

If you have time and your titans are strong enough, I find it better for your guild to do 4 levels each day, win the last battle but not hit the checkpoint. You will start 20 battles back, but you advance just as fast (in enemy titan difficulty) as if you do 3 levels a day and hit the checkpoint. 3 levels a day + cheeckpoint = 150 titanite. 4 levels a day - checkpoint = 185 titanite. Again this is only beneficial if you are strong enough. If not, then maybe 3 levels with checkpoint + 1 additional hero battle will be better (151 titanite a day)

I know when to stop, it's usually after clearing150 or 200 new levels, also at some point around lvl 25,000 the battles stop getting any more difficult in terms of the strength of the titans you face, there isn't even that many variations on the mixed team, usually only the front two change, Araji Ingis and Sylva being constant

Our guild requires 150 Titanite a day. So far, I’ve kept my titans progressing well enough to keep up with that pace.

Thanks for the explanation, it really helped a lot. :)

Great Info. Always my goto guide but need an update on the mobile verison. You cannot use hero to fight battle anymore.

The issue with this is that you only manage yo get 90. So if you want to go for 150 it is a matter of picking smart when to go for full on or just some heroes. For example on Facebook i never go with tank in single element fight so i can heal them in the mix ones using sigurd and nova up front - of course this up to when it's possible then you put the tanks into fight. On mobile it;s the opposite you use in the mix elements Avalon mairi and ingis and avoid using tanks but use them in single fights. As well, worth mentioning that you can replay the battle, so when in the fight exists Eden, it is worth replaying the fight until you get the result you want. For example it's nice if eden sends down the tank so you can eliminate the 2nd titan. The same the other way if Eden sends your hero just before/during his skill activation it's not good -> therefore retreat and play again :) as his 2nd skill is random

Charlie this info is incorrect. The dangeon difficulty for completed rooms increases only after you click the save point. When you repeat same rooms that you completed yesterday they will not be more difficult and titans there will not get stronger in level or stars. Only when you click the save point this will happen. I will tell you the most correct strategy -which is the most benefitial- here (firat guild: nemesis server 154): every day you should complete 2 save points and then go as far as you can to the 3rd save point but if you reach it do not click it. This way you will earn daily 185 titanite and 3 summoning spheres ( daily reward when you collect total 150 titanite you earn 1+2 summoning spheres). This reward and titanite is enough for 1 day and you do not need to go further as you said it will be more difficult each day to complete more levels if you get too far at once.

This strategy worked for about 3 weeks. I was fighting 21 battles and getting 91 titanite per day (doing one hero battle after the save point), but it kept getting harder and harder to get to the save point, until eventually I couldn't get there. Should I have stopped before activating the save point? I kept thinking that the additional titan potion I was getting would be enough to keep my team ahead of the opponents, but it wasn't. Before starting this strategy, I could always win at least 20 battles, even though I was getting much less titan potion. It seems to me that activating the save point makes the battles harder. So is it better to fight 20 battles but not activate the save point, or take a few days off and build up your titans without fighting any battles so the opponents don't get any more difficult and you can maintain a high ratio between titan potion earned and battles fought?

Learned much, ty! BUT, I was waiting to hear advise you never gave? (or I blinked and missed it lol). I was curious about when to use the divination cards. I am guessing to use them on the first 5 or more titan battles vs waiting until later and possibly missing out on even using them.

good video, just like some people here i sometimes get stuck trying for the 20 levels per day for a couple of days at a time.

Excellent advice for new players.

SO USEFUL! THANK YOU!

Nice 101 video. I'm thinking of putting together a more advanced video with tips and tricks on titan matchups and energy management (which is super crucial in my view). I've been able to use these to consistently clear at least 20 levels each day, usually more (up to 40 even) if I get enough all-element titan fights. I'd be interested to collaborate with you to get this information out there and make the dungeon run more pleasant for more players :)

But charlie, is it wise to choose which titans should fight(titans of any element) or to go with one element?

Thanks Charlie. Do you ever see that 150 titanite for the Valkyrie's favor coming to mobile?

Great Video Charlie! I made the mistake of my titans gaining a ton of levels and pushed forward like 50 new levels back in the day because I didn't pay attention to the daily rewards. This will really help new players. Also Mobile rewards suck vs FB. I'm assuming because Mobile players spend more maybe? I wish I got free titanite daily although I get a key so shrug?

I kinda figured that there was a special way to do it I try to do one checkpoint per day, I also try an get the daily as one sphere per day ain't bad, my problem is guild wars I just setup mine but I find that even though several people have joined like only 1 or 2 members are participating meaning im struggling to get the guild rewards an even win a single war which sucks

this video is literally fantastic, thank you charlie

I made it 120 levels my first week playing hero wars, but i was grinding like crazy, mostly spending emeralds on titans.

The Day i was wondering about that. You explain it,just like i figuire it out. Nic3 job. Got my sub.

Thanks Charlie! Good stuff

Used to fight in the dungeon all the way even if it meant i wouldn’t be able to reach the next checkpoint. IT WAS DEFINITELY A HUGE MISTAKE. Stopping at checkpoints really makes the dungeon runs easier and the daily quest of 90 & 150 titanites more achievable. I highly recommend you to stop at the checkpoint if you aren’t able to reach the next checkpoint if you have not been doing that already.

facebook is a bit complicated with it's elemental weakness and totems and what not, but on mobile it's very simple, follow these 2 rules: Farm either 90 or 150 every day, no more no less no in between, and NEVER, EVER, use autobattle, like NEVER, unless you want to get screwed.

I play on mobile, and usually just get my 65 per day. One of my teammates always gets 150. Cannot figure out how. Mobile is different than Facebook

Great info for new players

good to know, thanks!

Update the dungeon info without Heroes

Seems more geared toward Facebook dungoen

Good info Charlie! I wish I would have known this when I first started playing but you continue to do the same thing even if you've been playing for 1+ years. As always, thanks again!

Still no 102 ... really odd considering how important this is.

I hate it when the game lines up 4-5 earth/fire teams in a row. It spells an early end to my dungeon runs. My water team is always fully charged but my earth & fire teams struggle to keep up. It does get repetitive, especially when I'm trying to get max titanites. Retreating again and again to find the best outcome for recharging.

Is there a trick to getting a super Titan like there's one to getting Elemental Totems by spending enough emeralds?

Dark down there

I usually stop after only one checkpoint which is 90 titanite

have you done a video about the differences between movile and facebook?

i'm having trouble with after my titans die the next day they only come back with enough health to take one or 2 hits and they dead again. How can i get more health for them NOVA and MAIRA mostly others seem to come back 3/4 life

Great video, one of its kind!

Is there a significant difference in titan health lost between auto battling and manual battling?

Hi Charlie, I happen to be in a time zone when I can run the dungeon just before the guild activity resets (10am) and run again after. Meaning that i can run the first 20 levels before 10am to earn 90 titanite, and push as far as I can (after 10am) to earn more Titianite with bonus. I would repeat the same process the next day when the dungeon resets (6am) to run the first 20 levels. I've found this method tends to earn me more titanite overall each guild activity day, since I have bonus titanites from the previous day in additional to my current morning run and I usually don't reach the second save checkpoint. However, in view of the increasing difficulty in levels, is this still a good strategy?

One doubt , is Avalon shield able to take on Angus ultimate damage????

I only do 15-18 battle a day bcz mostly i died or if i reach 75 titanit in stop there to get more on tommorow

bad day when my water titan have less turn, and stuck at certain level

Is this video still viable for today’s mobile dungeon ?

Very helpful knowing about the stopping at check points. Tyvm love the channel.

I like the dungeon... : )

nice information

Could you do one actually focusing on the mobile game? A lot discussed here does not apply there.

Thank you!

Since day one I've always just gotten my 75 and stopped but the enemy titan teams are now at higher levels than all my titans. I was doing fine until I reached the point that I cant level even just one titan a day dont get nearly enough potions unless I wanna spend thousands of dollars on packs with potions or just emeralds to level up my titans. At this point I can barely get to the next checkpoint everyday 2 of my titan teams are usually dead by the next checkpoint

so are you saying i made a mistake by getting 700 titanite in one day...

I have to much energy I wish I can sell them.

Can you make video how to get better in dungeon? I make 90 every day but whatever I do I can't make 150. I level up my titans one day for 10k (all titans in total) and that day I make 150 titanite. Next day 90 again. How can I make 150 every day whitout using real money?