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Hero Wars | The Sweet Spot!

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@Grumpyk1d 4 года назад

I like the discussion about the sweet spot, but I don't like the inclusion of nova without talking about how important it is to use her ultimate to cancel the enemy's ultimate. Wait for backline titans to start their ultimate animation, then use nova's ultimate; her ultimate stops their animation but the ultimate energy is still used.

@eugenetswong 3 года назад

Thanks!

@maggiejetson7904 2 года назад

This "keeping your hero weak but healed" strategy also helps in campaign in later chapters. You can tank with a rapid fire hero with dodge and healing instead of a real tank.

@FerrisBueller-lj9zj Год назад

Like who..?

@ReneB1987 4 года назад

It's really nice to have this summarized neatly rather than having to look it up in the stream upload. :)

@Aigoth 4 года назад

Maybe energy should rise only with the attacks. Not with damage taken. Or you could gain a fix amount with every hit you take.

@ac9384 4 года назад

Thanks for the tip! I've noticed this with Keira's dancing blades. when I had it lower the an enemy keira, my keira might ult before theirs which helps me win mirror matches.

@royal_kira7184 3 года назад

Interesting concept! Next time you speak with Nexters please ask them to give people with high VIP the undo/reset or reassign feature for artifacts etc. Higher VIP should also allow you to choose which prize you want from the Tower chests instead of still having to gamble.

@trnovsky33 Год назад

lol you are crazy

@PVasconcelos 3 года назад

Nice interesting video! I kind of use that with my lower Jasmine sometimes, so she can dance sooner than the stronger on the other side. Didn't knew there was a name for it and kind of trick. Love these kind of videos.

@squid8616 4 года назад

I've heard people talk about this before, never knew the validity of it's claims. Thanks for the tip with the gift of elements, may use that if I run into the problem. Currently my Karhk is at 78k (mobile) so I havent run into that yet.

@cman9456 4 года назад

Another version of this would be maximizing a specific support skill within your team. Ie. And Andvari’s shield targets friendly with the lowest armor. You could deliberately keep your damage dealer’s armor as the lowest to not only shield the damage dealer, but give the shielded ally an energy boost. This could be very powerful paired with a mage like Orion.

@nonamefounder 3 года назад

Orion already has very low armor as do most dps heros. But i like your thinking.

@jon0963 3 года назад

Thanks for talking about the GoE. You should also do a seperate video discussing how new players can keep resetting to get the 300 titan potions for 7k gold

@FerrisBueller-lj9zj Год назад

How does that work(?)

@jon0963 Год назад

@@FerrisBueller-lj9zj I probably wasn't very clear as this was 2 years ago. (sorry to edit my comment - wasn't thinking) It's just the daily quest but if you have 250 sparks of power, you can keep resetting at level 1 and paying 7000 gold to get to level 1 sparks of power. this will net you the 300 potions daily. It's not much but if I knew this sooner at my low level I would have a lot more titan potions...

@cymartinhii 4 года назад

Totally agreed on weaker team beat stronger team. Sometimes the fight make no sense at all

@IvanGeorgiev2 3 года назад

Thanks

@ArcticSlicer 3 года назад

I play in gold league, and finish top 10 in arena daily. The sweet spot really isn't a thing. Randomness from dodge and crit rolls have a lot more affect on winning or losing fights than any so-called sweet spot. The cases where it might be relevant are pretty limited and usually mitigated by the fact that your team will be weaker overall.

@aryonelmers9602 3 года назад

Thanks so much Charlie!! Love your discussions and forces me to think about approaches, whether I agree with you or not!

@dc18616 4 года назад

Yes the video I'm waiting for. Thanks for making this. I held off in powering up my bob because I heard you talk about sweet spot last time.

@scottk7713 4 года назад

One related concept is manipulating certain stats in order to focus where certain protective abilities are directed. One place where this happens a lot is with Aurora and her armor stat. On certain team set ups players specifically choose not to raise Auroras armor stat higher than Martha in particular to manipulate Andivari's shield goes in particular

@jimmythomas3077 2 года назад

Wow super nice video Charlie!

@brentismaximus 4 года назад

nuance...love it. ty Charlie

@Noxtrot 3 года назад

I'm gonna keep my Jorgen lower/less invested, but otherwise I can't be bothered with the sweetspot :D

@prairiedogs001 3 года назад

This actually makes a lot of sense... Thanks for the video.

@dorothypage77 3 года назад

I dunno... skills aren't as effective if your hero is a lower level than the target. So theoretically there is a trade off. Gaining energy faster when you take more damage is nice but what good is that energy if the skills aren't at full capacity?

@dwarman 4 года назад

Oh yeah, that's the spot! :)

@nbier1106 4 года назад

Very nice with Lian

@Substansional 3 года назад

charles dear boy

@Antagonopolis 4 года назад

What's interesting about gaining energy from dodge is that not many people realize that game does not calculate Armor factor in this equation... In other words - by dodging you actually gain MORE energy than you'd get if you were hit with damage you dodged

@GarudAtma 4 года назад

So, sweet spot means withstanding damage so that your toon does not die but also recharges. Good if done

@chowdychoe 4 года назад

Interesting concept for sure! I think it's very hard to manage for a lot of peoole though. I know some of my guild mates barely manage team synergy lol

@itszrichard 4 года назад

Good info.

@Auser-bf6ox 4 года назад

I like the idea of resetting artifact :)

@nonamefounder 3 года назад

Glyphs would be nice to be able to reset also.

@pankajagarwala2235 4 года назад

Thanks..

@74brush74 2 года назад

WOW!

@Cjjthehealer 3 года назад

I keep My dorians health lower than My orion. This makes him the victim of the heros that hit lowest heroes Andy, arachne, neb ect.

@cdmohamed 4 года назад

Well played Nexters... what a scam😉

@n-da-bunka2650 3 года назад

9:29 is wrong as it only shows 15 levels when there are 30 in the browser-based (FB) version so your gold costs are far greater than what is shown on that chart

@montahd7530 4 года назад

didn't know this! but it happened to me!

@cheese56218 4 года назад

Hope they fix this

@pfunk929 4 года назад

It will definitely impact which stats I focus on first.

@SakethPatibandla 4 года назад

Sweet video

@GenesisReveal 3 года назад

I thought all the players with low level heroes were noobs but it turns out they are clever strategists.

@ardska 4 года назад

You can always change how the heroes gain energy by using different heroes. I don't think this is a good advice. If we are talking about end-game, each player has other heroes leveled up already that you can swap to adjust to your enemy. I prefer to do that rather than lower my hero stats.

@blackbisket33 4 года назад

Feel wrong, like cheating

@rayjohnston3277 4 года назад

Thanks Charlie

@theartofsarcasm9977 3 года назад

I think one shoting an enemy then you gain 50% of energy

@crich001 4 года назад

If I start all my fights in Auto will my heroes and/or titans charge faster, then switch to manual fight before the wrong one goes off? Quick start charge?

@buttfart7123 4 года назад

One word: Hummus.

@jordanwolfe607 4 года назад

An excellent word

@swapnilr3817 4 года назад

Nice good

@nonamefounder 3 года назад

I noticed this in arena. My team was crushing higher power teams then i leveled up my dps quite a lot and the power gap i was beating before got lower.

@rafarvs33 4 года назад

Funny thing, that has just happened to me today. I have a orange+3, level 128 Karkh, and a red+2 level 130 Karkh attacked me, and lost on GW.

@leolyndo2010 4 года назад

Reaaaally interesting content! Thank you very muy for the info

@thomashaggard5702 4 года назад

Good stuff man, thanks

@maskedriderweaver4122 4 года назад

Hmm, I will have to consider this tactic carefully

@redv.5956 4 года назад

Thanks!

@miguelcumpelik3595 3 года назад

Jorgen is super cool

@xoMUxo 4 года назад

Great video! Was thinking if I should upgrade Jorgen's glyphs, or not, but did it anyway, as he doesn't have a skin upgraded, he needed to survive a couple of seconds more. (currently at 42k, the weakest member in the team) 8:45 was also thinking about being added the possibility of resetting more stuff. Also, making them expensive in gold so players can't do it before each war fight.

@allanmeirelesdesouza1187 3 года назад

"Vampirism" woulb be a good Fast video,.

@johnkirby8939 4 года назад

Wow. Just got Bob up to max on sparks of power. Don't think I have the heart to drop him back to zero.

@TheOnigirii 4 года назад

Yes definitely annoying how a lower invested team can beat one which has more. Hope the devs do something about this. However on the other hand, it applies mostly to mirror matchups so trying to avoid one can also solve this issue if talking about late/end game

@postgoats3099 4 года назад

nice

@jasonsantiago308 4 года назад

Very interesting.. I might change the way I play. Thanks for the vid

@webomvp 4 года назад

So based on this discussion, should I not get my ring of agility for my Keira to absolute star? Any input is welcome

@readyplayer2880 3 года назад

Oh man, would love an answer to this.

@nonamefounder 3 года назад

Me too.

@echassat 3 года назад

Another way is to fight 4 heroes vs 5, especially when considering Kark’h teams...

@hockeyhacker97 4 года назад

Just did a test and this actually makes some really weird teams viable. For the defending team I put a 95 Astroth / 95 Kiera / 84 Celest /83 Dorian / 87 Martha. I started with a mirror match replacing Celesta with a 57 K'arkh, which obviously does in 2 kiera attacks but the lower team still won, so I did another test this time just removing celest keeping only 4 attackers and won again, then again, same defense and for attack I did just kiera/Dorian/Martha and won easily. I found having Kiera/Dorian in the front two spots is just unlimited healing. So far my best result has been Kiera/Dorian/Helios/Martha, as long as Dorian take splash damage the healing is insane.

@nonamefounder 3 года назад

Very interesting. What power levels for all matches?

@willykobiasky8767 4 года назад

Thank you Charlie. Now I understand why my Jorgen always do his ultimate after 4 of his teamates die. I leveled him up too much :((

@guyjaiya9254 4 года назад

Ohhhhhh yah i love the way you talk that if we can reset anything in game ♥️♥️♥️♥️ it would be very helpful i wish i wish next update ☺️

@pgsibilo 3 года назад

Soooooooo, is there a Sweet-Spot Chart for players to follow??? Or is it just a theory based on guess work???

@jordanwolfe607 4 года назад

Damn wish there was a way to actually test this

@dennisbecker1482 4 года назад

Not sure if it works like "make ur Khark weaker" cause if often loose because of stronger support heroes. Imo its a not to be underrated fact u have to check before attacking stronger kharks ;)

@cosminalexandru8472 4 года назад

I’m far away having this kind of problems

@CraftedVision 4 года назад

Never heard of this before.

@daviddannau6552 4 года назад

If I could wish one thing, it is to reset certain things (skills, artifacts) in this game.

@nonamefounder 3 года назад

We all want that. Lol

@Barbaricdave 4 года назад

Good info

@guyjaiya9254 4 года назад

Thank you so much for your education 😆 this video is helpful

@jethomas5 3 года назад

Suppose that you max out Karkh and then you find that a Karkh that's 95% maxed will beat him. Will a Karkh that's 90.25% maxed out beat the Karkh that's 95% maxed? Maybe there's no sweet spot. Maybe whatever you do there will be some teams that beat you.

@grantsears7059 4 года назад

Interesting. I left Kiera's armor stat at 0 to try and get that sweet spot later at 120.

@jesselopez8957 4 года назад

Lol

@Lem_B 4 года назад

Not a fan of back tracking, but it was good info and insight into the game

@Andre-bn9vt 3 года назад

I keep my Jorgen low. Thats great, because i had no ressource for him :D

@waterlily3376 4 года назад

Is there a data base with a list of ideal sweet spot stats for each hero? Also, is there a counter sweet spot to fight against people that are using a sweet spot strategy?

@youngbdoe 2 года назад

@herowarscentral I really love ur channel bro I'm a new player in all of your videos been helpful I only play on mobile for now but I would like to try those other outlets soon I'm like a month in but I'm looking for a damage dealing player who would you suggest thanks for taking time to make these videos they are helpful

@spammymcspamface8795 4 года назад

Just beat the kraken!

@finkelzo 4 года назад

I prefer escalators, but my wife prefers elevators. I think it’s because we were raised differently.

@burtquijanojr.3653 4 года назад

To level, to not level to even de=level. If only we could add and subtract like a dial on a knob for each hero at will. Chances are you will need more strength than not and it is your hero combinations and team synergy that will win the day as opposed to worrying about did I or didn't I level my hero correctly to win a battle. Don't overthink it. This isn't rocket science. It's ONLY a game, what do ya have to OVERTHINK IT! ;)- Just my humble opinion.

@davidschuck8983 3 года назад

If you remove the sparks, you stated that you lose the gold. What happens to the sparks. Do you get to move them to a new hero?

@shibatatsuya7728 3 года назад

basically it aint just about maxing out ur heros.

@Artx69 4 года назад

That’s when fallout says it’s simply RNG😆

@theuglykwan 8 месяцев назад

How are u collecting 8 mill gold in a couple of days other than emerald exchange / buying it?

@s.icysmooth1538 4 года назад

Sparks i need sparks

@crich001 4 года назад

Two, to or too? Tsk, tsk Charlie.

@adamkittok 3 года назад

My guild is focusing on winning a banner in cst for mobile. Any advice?

@bataglia 4 года назад

thats too complex for me

@RobertGerrity 4 года назад

The b-roll footage is an odd match for this video (e.g. discussing nova while showing campaign missions). Put a pin in this video to "make better" someday with footage comparing and contrasting true mirror match vs. "sweet spot" matchup. Also, from the "this shouldn't be the case" perspective, how should the energy gain based on taking damage be tweaked in the game to address this issue so that the higher investment team has the advantage? Should increased level/stat heroes have a "faster" energy threshold for their ultimates (e.g., energy required for ultimate reduces slightly as both level and main stat, or even all stats, increase)?

@subhajitdas2667 3 года назад

At which level i will get soul shop

@ThEHazaRdus 3 года назад

Try beating a 520k twins :( There is some truth to that theory, but any small change to the power of both teams will mess up that.

@ganeshc4564 4 года назад

how do get martha??

@lotus6124 4 года назад

We want max testing on mobo.

@victorysaber1608 4 года назад

Anyone reading this who has this blue alien answer me this. Im level 87. I just got him so he's level 1. Is it worth leveling him to be on my team? Already run asteroth, the dead pair Morrigan and corvus, and that female shield as my tanks for 3 teams. Ive seen he and faceless are a solid pair and I do have faceless in my 2nd team but with exp being so hard to get and needing it on my main team let alone other 2 teams. Is it really worth it to build this blue alien?

@wasifhussain3382 4 года назад

This won't be for me for another year me thinks

@jasonslade4746 4 года назад

I think it is a good feature. It allows growing players to beat higher teams and makes it more exciting. It costs so much to max even a single hero that it is already demoralizing to get locked out of rank rewards by high spenders. This levels the playing field just a little bit

@ragingturnip7854 4 года назад

Seeing the math on this. GoE really seems... small.... at mid to end game.

@nonamefounder 3 года назад

But its only 7000 gold for 300 potion daily. Thats 2100 potion 49000 gold a week. But yea mid to late game you might as well just go up a level instead of resetting it if theyre not maxed.

@TheWealthBuildingJourney 4 года назад

Love the ✊🏿✋🏿✌🏿 reference!

@TheWealthBuildingJourney 4 года назад

Resetting skins would completely change the game. Even at a discount. I would be on board for that, though.

@TheWealthBuildingJourney 4 года назад

NOTE TO ADD - there's not enough gifts of the elements solely from LEVELLING TITANS. You're always able to buy additional sparks of power directly from the Titan merchant using Titan soul coins. 50 for 10 sparks and 2,500 for 500 sparks, at a time. 👍🏿

@Duke_Noobem 4 года назад

What a broken game mechanic and a big oversight from the Devs.. hope this gets patched soon.

@norrlandsvargen 3 года назад

Don't get your hopes up. This has been the way the game was designed and it has been communicated to the developers from a lot of players, but the reply has always been that this is the way it is supposed to be and if you just increase your heroes more, then the problem will go away. It's beyond stupid. Or maybe it's a genius strategy that makes players invest even more to try to increase the power gap enough to begin winning again.

@FearMeSuckers 4 года назад

i know this for a very long time, on kark teams, keep faceless and jorgen lower and ull kill teams 200k or more higher than u, its all about timing. Its shit for defense, but good for offense, however i think they (devs) should fix this, it means the more u spend (€€€) the "weaker" u get, and then they complain about ppl using BRL currency lol... the whole game is a scam