pretty sure one year is enough time to get over Heroes & Generals. tell me what u wanna me talk about next. my discord server: / discord #HnG, #HeroeAndGenerals, #warthunder,
And rts battles were always different/unique in term of resources, it made them more interesting and challenging in general. Like countering Enemy medium tanks with yours heavy tanks, stuff had actual strategic value and you got to use them as they should(atleast sometimes xD)
Yes! I loved the intertwined fps and rts modes of H&G, it made every battle feel much more important than just a single battle. It gave me a desire to make the most of the assault team resources I was using. It gave me a reason to fight on the ground as a pilot after my plane was shot down.
What made H&G fun for me can be boiled down to 2 factors: 1. The assault lines. Afaik other games like BF1 or RS2V have game modes that are similar to one line being active, but without the back and forth. 2. The asymmetric gameplay, both in weapons being unique to factions and resources being uneven in war battles.
It's pretty tough to find something to replace HG indeed. Enlisted doesn't hit the same and HLL is way less arcade-y. I guess I'll wait for the Beyond Heroes project or Warbound to come out if they ever will.
About War Thunder, I was quite an active player a few months ago and have finally completed USA to 11.7 tanks and 9.3 for France's tanks (I don't play planes). So here is my warning to players wanting to go in. If you are planning on playing Free To Play, you will make roughly 2500 research points per match (roughly 2 kills and 2 assists). With the total RP cost of a single 10.0 vehicle and with that amount of research points (RP) it will take you 45hrs of continuous play to unlock a single 10.0 tank from 9.7. If you play only a couple of hours a day (let's say 2 hours as standard), it will take you roughly 400 days to unlock a single Tech Tree Faction (Just tanks, it will be 800 days if you add planes and more if you add ships). This is a big cause to buy Premiums, however I cannot recommend buying Top Tier Premiums (the ones at 11.3) as a new player you won't have a proper group of ground vehicles to help support your team (unless you buy a lot of premiums). I will repeat, that is for 1 subsection of a single nation! Roughly 400 days of 2 hour playtime is a lot of commitment for a game that is selling 70$ tanks to you. It is quite alright to reach 6.7 to 7.7 as a Free to Play player. Going from 8.0 however you will feel tired and just want to research faster. This is where you will start spending and find that even with your new T80 or Abrams you will suffer from bad winrates. It gets better over time, but USA is a real struggle a 11.3, not because of bad vehicles, just new players who spawn in their 11.3 tank, die and then respawn in a 1.0 tank. Take your time and don't let the snail get your soul!
@@fightertalon3690 ah... using HEATFS against tanks that are immune to it all the way to 11.7 was hard. I'm not sure why 11.7 gets APFSDS from the get go but M829 is better than HEAT.
There's a group of ex HnG players working on a 'new' game based in large on it, eager to see how that will turn out. I came late to the game, in 20, but spent 1000s of hours on it, have not played PC since....
@@tigervv6437 no not that, they downloaded all the game files and work on a 'new' game based largely on weapons, vehicles etc from HnG, i'll find the link on my PC and tell u where to find info. But remember, it's all voluntary...
I'm actually happy how you described the reality about War Thunder and T H E S N A I L (Don't play War Thunder, it just makes you miserable. After 3.3k hours I managed to quit it and in those 5 months my life has improved A LOT) Maybe you mentioned/played before but a somewhat repleacement for H&G is Enlisted. Yes, yet again The Snail made the game, but it shares many similarities with H&G, hell, even when it came out I described Enlisted as "a mixture between H&G and Post Scriptum (Squad 44 now)" I stopped playing Enlisted a long ago due to the absolute horrible grind and horrible mechanics but if someone really wants an alternative for H&G I would give it a chance
Those glory days of Enlisted before the merge were gone and it already lost an important part on what makes this game unique compared to the likes of Hell Let Loose, Squad 44 or something else.
The fun part of H&G is that every single game is different eve same map, esp we can sneak from behind enemy line and of course take revenge and find that annoying Recon hiding in the brush !!!!!!
Tanking in HnG is done with those GAZ rambos who bounce on topography and whistle and kill each other while making the most random chemistry using H3 halfdonangangakdg , hand grenades and watermelon launchers
@@ryder1046 i doubt that gamemode is player vs player, i played the game when it came out, and even in the player vs player, it was mostly bots using players names, same as in squad mode devs use that tactic to make you think theres real players sadly...
Tbh, the truth of why H&G special is that you can be super OP by grinding super hard in the game(or just p2w) it really provide you a driving force to keep grinding in it and by the more you grind you just can't quit it anymore. Some said H&G is unique by having armer, infantry, and aircraft on one battlefield but have you ever heard battlefield series? A 3A title which is fuck times better than H&G back then when it was still a things. The unbelence and gear grind is what truly make H&G stand out. Destory tank in BF can only prove your skill but all we looking at in H&G tank = money = better gear = been more OP, we hunt the tank, you eager to destroy it and that's no other FPS can give us that's just how special H&G was.
Sooo, i like ww2 games as h&g and a game which does things just way better i terms of progression, gameplay and details or content about ww2 is enlisted ( same Company that made war Thunder: Gajin). The game also gives u the option to play as tanker, pilot or many other infantry based troops like pioneer or basic rifle man. For me this game found a place in my heart
The problem with finding a replacement is that individual matches don't matter like they did in war in hng. That's why i kept playing even though hng was ass. Sure, there are other games that have persistent wars etc. (like planetside). Trouble is, its very hard to contribute to the wars without being a clan in a lot of those games.
War Thunder could never replace HnG. WT lacks the combined arms warfare of infantry, tanks and planes. The only ww2 themed game coming close to that is Enlisted. But recently i found myself playing BF4 anyway.
I switched to Enlisted for quite a long time but I'm a little tired of the genre atm. But I'd go back to Enlisted if I get the itch. They've recently reworked all research trees. It's also the same people as War Thunder
I've been going back to the FHSW mod for Battlefield 1942 and FH2 for Battlefield 2. Both can be played completely for free even if you don't have those games previously nowadays. And while both of these mods and games are old they have been updated even this year. Every player also has access to everything from the start.
Enlisted has more similarity to H&G. War thunder is suffering (at least for me.) I was never that into H&G but I know how you feel because as a kid I played a game called "Army Rage" that was killed/died.
you should really try realistic mode, i think once you will get the hang of it, you will enjoy it way more since it will be less arcady and you will actually have to lock in and spot enemies yourself n stuff, plus you get way better rewards so the grind should be easier
What i loved about HnG was the complete freedom. The freedom to customize your character and their equipment. I would spend hundreds of hours playing as a medic with no weapon haha. Also the freedom you get on the large maps is unprecedented. HnG with its simplicity and freedom was really a universe to enjoy, even in spite of the bugs and dev degeneracy.
I just play HLL and battlebit now, not really a replacement but battlebit gives me the funy feeling and HLL the ww2 aspect when i drive the trucks to bring supplies around. RIP the goated H&G :(
Sadly, I don't think there will ever be another H&G to take its place. From someone who played both games side by side since 2019, I will say that War Thunder does a really good job at somewhat replacing the thrills of tank on tank and ariel combat that was in H&G. Over the last year or so a lot of the game's problems have been (maybe not completely but substantially) ironed out. In the lower tiers which are predominantly WWII-era vehicles I can't say that there are many left over until you start reaching the early cold war-era vehicles
I mean, I've found and played Enlisted as the "replacement" and I gotta say, if H&G is ever going to come back miraculously, I'm not going to come back, it was underoptimized (I never had even a mid pc to play it properly with 12 fps and everything blurry, don't know till this day how I managed to play it in those conditions), unbalanced in every single way and no new content but when it was dying and it wasn't even good. I only miss the first 1-2 years when I knew it as it brings nostalgia, but I prefer it to stay as a good memory and to rest in peace.
funny that this video is 4 days old as i typed "bring heros and generals back" into my searchbars. i miss my on and off relationship with this game...cant we just buy it?
enlisted isn't too bad, it's basically HnG minus the RTS(i think, it's been a minute). it has planes, tanks but mainly revolves around infantry squad play, but your squad is ai and when you die you can take over one of them.
The grind in WT is not that bad if you are a WW2 main. Me and my friends gave it a try for about 2 months but stopped playing once we reached the BRs with Tigers and Panthers. Anything more advanced than that and you'll be fighting cold war vehicles with thermal optics and guided missiles, no fun :/
you can try enlisted too, it has planes, tanks and soldiers and it plays very similar to H&G in my opinion, well i never played it but it should be similar
Rip H&G I grew up on that game. I had 2500 hours. Still can't believe its gone. Even though all the developer shuffling and changes I didn't always like I still loved it. It was so easy to jump on and have a good time. I play a lot less games now but nothing comes close to replacing H&G. Enlisted is okay, but its just not enough to hold my attention. Ive been playing another dead game called Americas Army Proving Grounds. But at least when it went EOL the game still had self hosted servers. So it still has a small dedicated community. I wish there was a way to get private servers going for H&G before they killed it.
I used to play a game really long ago Wolfenstein enemy territory Kinda had the same feeling with it, only sad part about it is that nobody plays it, and all servers are full of bots
Ive already moved on, but as a result of this game's death, i have not been involved with my friend group that played it. So i get nostalgic remembering early pandemic days ^_^
What I loved was the great mix of acrade and "realism". Of course it wasn't "realistic", but almost all other shooters are either too slow paced for me, or an ADHD simulator where everyone is an olympic acrobat.
Yup still miss the RTS part quite a lot, together with 20v20 battles (and not 5v5 or battle royal or something like quite a few shooters) H&G just has something magical i guess... Had a lot of fun... As for War Thunder you kinda need the premium otherwise it isn't really worth ur time. (Nvm the high tier stuff, as in +8.0)
BTW watching all the gamer tags in this video like nooby_doo, ice_dice, sozzo, cjobanov and others. man i never met you irl, but all the games we played i salute you all o7 !!
The game I found similar to HnG was Battlebit. Played for 180 hours now and I do enjoy the simplistic meetgrinder that HnG Fortress sometimes turned into. Still there is no variety of modes, gameplays and approaches to that game, yet, for a former HnG player there'd be something interesting
Still looking... played enlisted for about a month and have up..think I had like 3-4,000 hours into the game since like 2015/2016 before it was on steam, when they had it in the web browser D;
oh god. you have gone from one pain game to the other. best of luck keeping your sanity. warthunder is the only pvp game i have more hours in than H&G on steam. its both one of my fav games and most hated. would definitely recommend playing Tank RB as its core mode now days since they dont care a ton about air anymore. maybe even ground sim if you feel brave enough (ground sim is basicly tank RB but limited camera no nametags and freindly fire) but RB and sim also give you much higher XP and money than arcade. but ya games pretty good till just past ww2 then becomes utter pain. biggest issue with the game is lack of gamemode verity and really really bad maps making up most of the rotation. warthunder dose also have a kinda war mode called world war mode though nobody plays it and im pretty sure its basicly abanonded and it was poorly implemented. Still enjoy im sadly far to gone now with the snail. but still hoping for a fps replacement for H&G currently the only hope in that vain is ww2 online 2.0 if and when it comes out but its being made by like 10 people on the budget of 2 large fish and chips and 1 beer.
I have to admit I was a little disappointed that the game recommendation was WT, considering Ive had War Thunder since just after I got H&G. And that I already have nearly 1,300 hours while in WT and only around 650 in H&G when it sunsetted.
i tried to replace h&g with enlisted but the game was so grindy and the xp was low when you play matches where bots were excluded .That's what kept me away from the other gajin games .
Played H&G since beta and stopped around when they upgrade the graphic and the tank mehanic, maybe try Hell Let Loose, its has tanks and infarty combat but it more like millsim but it was fun
I think war thunder is not a good recommendation to replace H&G. I have thousands of hours in it, and it just doesn't feel right. I would suggest PlanetSide 2, however that games survival is also questionable xd, but it has similar mechanics, like spawn trucks, team play, similar time-to-kill, weapon modding. If you are looking for an FPS that has a similar gameplay style and objectives as H&G, I would say PlanetSide 2 is a solid choice.
2:30 54 APCR shells, this is painful to witness. As someone with well over 5.6k hours in WT on my current steam account alone, I don't play it anymore except for a handful of planes. Volumetric is absolute cancer and makes tanks unplayable at times (anything can bounce off of anything at any time). Luckily, there is a similar game that is not only way more fun, but is also actually good. And has graphics a bit more similar to H&G. Cursed Tank Simulator is a damn Roblox game that is just better. + it lets you mix hulls/turrets/guns, so there's lots of creativity there. No premium tanks, no CAS, no snail, working economy, reasonable grind, very cool decors. For reference, a single assist at high tiers gives you enough money to buy multiple low tier parts. Eta320 has a good video abotu how it looks starting out. It is old, made before the biggest update in the game's history, but it still shows the general stuff.
I'm not exactly sad about the game having been gutted given the state it was in. The game was on life support since at least 2018. I'm just angry about exactly how it died. The game was sold off to a company that was only interested in milking the fuck out of it to pump up numbers on diagrams and thus make themselves look better to any random company that would buy them out. This is absolutely not how I wanted the game I spent 1800+ hours in to go, but it is what it is....
For me? it were Escape from tarkov. The game feel good, cluncky at times, weapons recoil works cool. the game is not WW2, but the game devs and everything arround it are like H&G. I like to think about it like from Marijuana to Cocaine. it's a lot expensive (i didn't pay anithing in H&G) but also you get incredible more high. I would not recomend it in any way. But here i am... It's not 1:1 H&G not even 1:1000, but the feeling playing, it's really good. Too bad for me...
>replacement for HG Waiting for hellborne and enjoying red orchestras, day of infamy, minecraft day of infamy mod call to battle 3 for minecraft on usb key and any machine i get around to and waiting for black orchestra mod for simmilar experience HG gave Simple as that and thats just an top of iceberg and games you can run in present on many machines if you still have antiquated hardware But still i miss the trolls possible in HG and nobody minding that
lol lucky for me my HnG addiction ended the moment i bought the last item for the last team it took me 4 years but i did it all free, generals and everything else earned for all 3 factions. but the warthunder grind addiction is real tho. a game like HnG is only fun because you have a goal to grind for without it its pretty boring
Hi! last time i played H&G i was playing with sniperclass on airfield. the bots where everywhere. i hade an intense 40 miniuts of killing everything i saw. i ran out of bullets 2 times then hade to die to replenish die to no nearby ammo box. finaly my scored showed 300 kills! in one game! 808h in H&G I have 1695 houers in warthunder(only tanks), i did switch to that after and while h&g where out. im done with that also due to the bad gamplay. you always rush for tha site and die a few times and the serartch a new game. the time you flank or try do somthing else. you kill one or two enemies and in the process reviel your possition. then gets taken out. sure i migt be bad at the game but i have tried most of the thing to try. Enlisted: the infantry version of warthunder. it is a H&G copy with better grafics. U have a few bots that always are in the way. Also warthunder and enlisted are games containing high levels of stress due to if you not capture the objective you lose the game pritty fast. Sure H&G is the same but it hade a relaxed feel about that. I thing the lain or brach system is good for that. the team-play in all of thees games are very bad. best time where when in H&G, the tankers helped eachouter to riepair each tanks. even if there was one tank in action there could be 2-4 tankers reparing that lone tank. I recoment trying battelbit due to snipergameplay and outher classes. its blocky but playing for the K/D is fun. I enjoy playing Dayz, cs2, squad, rust and Battlebit now. Thanks!
before the merger update enlisted did a decent job as a replacement for me, still missed shit like h and gs passenger system that let u pile dudes onto vehicles like youd see in historical photos but the gameplay and cocnept were very similar and scratched the itch but post merger the game is so grindy and the lack of lives alotta the players have made the game borderline unplayable and entirely unenjoyable anymore for me. so im back to square one now lol
i would just suggest playing battlefield or Battlebit insted of war thunder, be it BF4 , 1 , V or the classics like 2 or Forgotten hope 2 mod if you can get your hands on it. it may not have the same charm as H&G but it's still way better then selling your soul to the snail any day of the week. the Red orchestra/Rising storm Series is also great and a new game that is made by the same developers is coming out called '83 it's literly Trading One Abusive relationship for Another one, War thunder is much worse then H&G ever was, even if it does not apear like it at first sight (Guy with 1500 hours here)
As per recommendations, I say the HnG player should defeat his fear of milsims and give Hell Let Loose a try for a WW2 experience. Squad for a modern one. If you're feeling adventurous maybe even jump into Project Reality. Wait for a new version of WW2 Online.
im surprised you didnt talk about hell let loose or battlefield 1, i know theyre not free, but its a lot less than the macr- i mean "micro"-transactions of the P2- er i mean F2P genre. not to mention a the non-malicious progression
Also warthunder. it gets boring due to: u want the panther och tiger2 right? you put the houers and pain in and then you get it! u start the game witch your glorius german tank linup. you see your team8s and enmies have coald war tanks now... witch HEAT and crap. now you indestructeble german super machines are a pice of paper. you will face faster and more powerful enemies and also most of the time get uppteard. the tear sysem works like if your tiger2 is 6.7 you can meet 5.7 - 7.7. easy8 is about 6.7 i think. you want to meet the easy8 witch you tiger2, right? but most of the time you get uppteard to you will meet 7.7 witch have mostly light armored vhiecals with HEAT ammo. now you highcaliber gun with masive pen is overkill due to a long reload time. and the fact the your shell moght not explode in the enemy tank due to the fues in the shell neds to be triggerd. Wish you all the best ;)
Planetside 2, try planetside 2 guys, i am not saying its very good wow perfect etc etc but if you had fun with hg i am sure you will enjoy planetside 2 if you give a chance to it
Why war thunder? They released enlisted wich has infantry, tanks and air. Enlisted is the closest you are going to get to that same feeling of h & g for free.
