Loved the interview. And I'm so glad you called him on the "I'm not in the flow because it's all hard work B.S" at 16:20. I hate when people undermine the importance of having the right state of mind.
The payoff to be a billionaire seems constrained by the world the society we have created. I mean get a million dollar car in the US and you still have to drive in traffic, avoid the pot holes, see the poverty. Unless you live in a gated community or a luxury bunker. This vision of success seems so 1980s. Work Work Work ME ME ME. Success is larger than the individual.
Agree!!! If you turn it around. The billions just seems like an old story to me. I feel like a need a new story then individual success. I have not read his books so maybe there is much more to it. Thanks for the comment.