I know! Remember when SU&SD were stressing out on their podcast because they needed 7-player games for a game night? Hah... *stares into middle distance*
I've watched this video over a dozen times since SU&SD first made it. I think this was the point I realized they weren't just making good boardgame critiques but actual art. Don't be a grumple-hex, Paul.
As soon as I started watching this, I was like wait a minute, why is Christmas music playing? Must be a joke. And then I saw two people in a room together without masks and then said to myself, "This is not from 2020"
I'm relatively new to the channel so I just assumed economical hexoganal piece laying festival came after chess month, but then that jump scare. That jump scare of two people within 6 feet.
I like how even in old video I already can see all the components that I love in this channel all mixed with awkward pauses and jokes that go for too long I love the way they talk
I didn't expect such an emotional response watching you guys break character and laughing constantly. God I miss hanging out with my friends in person.
I know the creators of Suburbia(and the expansions) and helped beta test the games when in development, and I can say its a great game, even through the playtests, loads of fun, and many ways to play and win! Highly recommend! :D
9:59 I love these little scenes where the scene goes on for longer than it should so we see something funny and unscripted while the audio of the next scene already comes in.... I really like it tbh
I LOVE these old reviews. While watching this review I've laughed harder than I have in a good long while. The chemistry between you two is just perfect. The next time you talk to Paul, please tell him how much I miss him. And thanks for re-uploading these old reviews. It's so good getting the chance to watch a couple friends have so much fun.
I always saw those comments of "Seeing paul had me confused before i realized this was an old episode" and thought "how could that occur?" Then I saw Paul and got my hopes up :( Still a great episode though. Miss Paul of course, but glad SUSD is still making great content and rewarding us with these old gems too.
Grumplehex is such a good word... It’d be a shame if I had unknowingly integrated it into my vocabulary for the last few years without knowing where it came from.
I didn't realize that Paul was such a hooligan. So, the red line represents Paul! But now I understand all the SU&SD ultraviolence. But you forgot to mention the PR firm tile in Suburbia. And how to win if someone else gets it. Thanks lads.
_Keys to the City: London_ is a "sequel" to Keyflower that in mechanisms is simpler, but the coloured canals you place can be a bit fiddly. And wasn't around in 2013.
Writing this in 2020, Suburbia and Keyflower are still holding up very well and managed to still be very enjoyable games through 7 years of high tides of new games coming and going.
Damn I thought Paul was back.... then I saw a younger Quinn’s (he hasn’t agreed that much) and I thought we’re back baby. Then I thought it was a long lost video... then I remembered I’d seen it before.. (or had I ? Thanks matt) it was a re-up.... such an emotional roller coaster. I loved it haha. The video too!
i didn't know about su&sd back in 2013... but my favorite part about these videos is seeing what game shelves looked like back then. they matched mine! you can nail a year based on someone's shelves... just the big games from the most recent years front and center... that have over time been slowly shoved aside, then put into a closet (or sold altogether!)
I have a bit of an obsession with hexagonal tiles, mathematically, geometrically, and in games. Rhombic dodecahedra fill (tile) 3d space, and if you take the cross section of those at the vertices, you can actually find 4 distinct hexagonal tilings at offset angles from each other, as well ad 3 square tilings. I've put together a ton of hexagonal chess variants. I may be getting these just for the hex tiles.
Ever since i folded origami as a kid, i loved tessellated shapes. Then i cracked open battletech as a thirteen year old, and i was lost to the cult of the hexagon.
Look I’m gonna level with you guys, I spent a good five seconds wondering which of us was the crazy one when you said it was December. 2020 does things to a person.
Trains is legit great. It's hard to explain and harder to see when you look at it on the table. Something about hand management AND ALSO area control is just the right amount of crunchy. Suburbia makes me sad. Even the app felt like it was just unfun.
Oh my goodness I haven't seen this video in so long. New Shut Up & Sit Down is obviously awesome but gosh there's something so great about these old videos. Quinns & Paul were just so excellent on camera together and there was really something to putting multiple reviews into one video.
3:22 We have a house rule for this game. Each time you place a tile, you have to announce your rationale for urban planning. In this case, the answer could be "Our citizens are too good looking and skinny, so the city council decided to zone for a fast food restaurant that is immediately adjacent to housing." More adjacent housing is necessary because we don't want people walking very far; exercise may make them healthy. With so many unhealthy citizens eating terrible food, your best option is to build a slaughterhouse to keep the population under control etc. I personally put down a slaughterhouse every time I build a retirement community in case they are too far from extra lakes. Casinos are also excellent for being placed next to schools or libraries for obvious reasons.
One of my favourite old videos! I do slightly miss Paul's promotion of gentle Eurogames. Quinns and Matt have an incredible and engaging rapport, but they do clearly share a favourite genre (Social Bluffing Games For Cool Sexy Boys) which leaves me a little cold.
Played Suburbia for the first time (remotely!) this week and loved it. Thought I'd look up the SUSD take - an added pleasure to enjoy some Fondly Remembered Paul and Retro Quinns Hair.
I'm one of the rare people who didn't enjoy Suburbia. Too dry for me, and the catch-up mechanism actually blocked other players from catching up. One of the rare games I sold. I can appreciate that it's a very well designed game though.
Theme's important to me in a game, and I actually prefer Suburbia _because_ of its theme. It's the only board game I've yet seen that scratches that SimCity itch. If it was themed around magic and dragons and stuff I wouldn't give it a second look. But as it is... You had me at RCI being green/blue/yellow, Suburbia.
Keyflower is still such a fantastic game still in 2020, I would highly recommend it. It's a great worker placement game that doesn't miss out on interaction like most eurogame's tend to. Works great with 2 players works great with 6 players. Try it if you haven't played it!
As a counter voice: I've only played it with 6, but I find it absolutely awful. The mechanisms strongly go against any theme, the way bid owners are tracked is clunky unless you are playing at a round or hexagonal table, and the design is extremely AP prone... or alternatively if you want to avoid AP, it's highly maddening as people use stuff in your town blocking you from using it (which is likely to get you if you aren't watching everything). I've enjoyed other games in the Key series, but this one is just a mess. I don't know, but it might be okay with 2 or maybe even 3, but above that no way. It's complete garbage. (This is of course my opinion... well, actually 4 out of the 6 players with a 5th one being neutral. ) By the way, I won the game by a fair margin if that matters. Note: I'm not trying to disparage anyone that likes the game. I'm just offering a different opinion.
Keydophile - that would be some kind of weird expansion. I just bought Suburbia so had to watch to see what your thoughts on it was - glad I did 👍🏻.I must say though - there should be a standard size hex - referenced by a standard size pear. It could be called a pear shaped hex.
If Decmber gets Economic hexagonal tile placement games, perhaps another holiday could get just a general hexagonal tile placement game fest. :) Survive Escape from Atlantis is a great classic hexagonal tile game.
Heads up, this video and some others aren't embedded on their pages on the website. Had to google to find this one, and some others like the halloween special have different titles which makes that awkward. Also the dexterity special I can't find at all, rip the vimeo backlog :c
