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HH Candrasekhara Swami - Unity in Diversity - Some Key Philosophical Points 

ISKCON Unity in Diversity
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In this interview, HH Candrasekhara Swami (disciple of Srila Prabhupada), one of the leaders in ISKCON, covers some key philosophical points on the topic of Vaisnavi Diksha Gurus in ISKCON.
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@jackieparcell1370
@jackieparcell1370 4 месяца назад
Thank you, Maharaj. I wish you all success.
@figgis4
@figgis4 Год назад
pranams maharaja. i appreciate your relaxed, astute, approach, devoid of subtle status games. all respect to your service, nandapatni dd
@krikpat3361
@krikpat3361 Год назад
Thank you for doing this prabhu
@sacinandan6707
@sacinandan6707 Год назад
Jai Prabhupada-nice presentation
@michelledynamite69
@michelledynamite69 Год назад
An excellent presentation- helped me understand the evidence for VDG more deeply.
@michelledynamite69
@michelledynamite69 Год назад
also what is the definition of “uphadhi”?
@iskconunityindiversity
@iskconunityindiversity Год назад
@@michelledynamite69 Upadhi refers to external or material bodily designations.
@samspade2657
@samspade2657 Год назад
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@samspade2657
@samspade2657 Год назад
@@michelledynamite69 This means you are totally green and have no idea what is going on. To get a different perspective visit www.youtube.com/@BhaktiVikasaSwami you may not agree but at least you will know that there are other views.
@ladycat1963
@ladycat1963 Год назад
If we are not the body, but Spiritsouls, the Lord see all as Spiritsouls, not Exactly as Male or Female, why can't Male Devotees. I am a Doctor of Divinity, in most circles, I am an equal Spiritually with men,, I do ceremony in many religions, except 2, KC and Muslim even though I've studied and know well. God, Krishna, puts no limits on us period, but men do. Much love to your HH.
@chandrashekharaswami8159
@chandrashekharaswami8159 Год назад
@Sam Spade You call all changes to the Varṇāśrama-Dharma system demoniac, but you ignore that Srila Prabhupada himself made those changes. Women in temples, women on saṅkīrtana, women giving classes and women along side men in the temple room not in the back. Varṇāśrama is not set in stone. Varṇāśrama is not the ultimate goal of Bhakti. Varṇāśrama is a cultural application of the philosophy of Vaisnavism. It has been changed before in the past, before Prabhupada, and it was changed by Prabhupada. Brahmacaris do not today wear dreadlocks and carry water pots. That Prabhupada said good things about Vedic kings, did not indicate that he wanted a king now in ISKCON. Srila Prabhupada wanted the Varnasrama system mostly for those who cannot or will not follow the system of Bhakti regulations. We are happy to hear that the Devotees in Atlanta are doing nicely and wish them well. No one is advocating for "Gay Gurus" as is the worry of some detractors of allowing Vaisnavis to initiate. A person engaged currently in illicit sexual activities cannot be a Guru. It is now and always was offensive to associate a Vaisnava/i with their past birth or previous sins however [Harinama Cintamani]. FROM PRABHUPADA: According to the cult of devotion, generally known as the Vaiṣṇava cult, there is no bar against anyone's advancing in the matter of God realization. A Vaiṣṇava is powerful enough to turn into a Vaiṣṇava even the Kirāta, etc., as above mentioned. In the Bhagavad-gītā (9.32) it is said by the Lord that there is no bar to becoming a devotee of the Lord (even for those who are lowborn, or women, śūdras or vaiśyas), and by becoming a devotee everyone is eligible to return home, back to Godhead. The only qualification is that one take shelter of a pure devotee of the Lord who has thorough knowledge in the transcendental science of Kṛṣṇa (Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam). Anyone from any part of the world who becomes well conversant in the science of Kṛṣṇa becomes a pure devotee and a spiritual master for the general mass of people and may reclaim them by purification of heart. Though a person be even the most sinful man, he can at once be purified by systematic contact with a pure Vaiṣṇava. A Vaiṣṇava, therefore, can accept a bona fide disciple from any part of the world without any consideration of caste and creed and promote him by regulative principles to the status of a pure Vaiṣṇava who is transcendental to brahminical culture. The system of caste, or varṇāśrama-dharma, is no longer regular even amongst the so-called followers of the system. Nor is it now possible to reestablish the institutional function in the present context of social, political and economic revolution. Without any reference to the particular custom of a country, one can be accepted to the Vaiṣṇava cult spiritually, and there is no hindrance in the transcendental process. So by the order of Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, the cult of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam or the Bhagavad-gītā can be preached all over the world, reclaiming all persons willing to accept the transcendental cult. Such cultural propaganda by the devotees will certainly be accepted by all persons who are reasonable and inquisitive, without any particular bias for the custom of the country. The Vaiṣṇava never accepts another Vaiṣṇava on the basis of birthright, just as he never thinks of the Deity of the Lord in a temple as an idol. And to remove all doubts in this connection, Śrīla Śukadeva Gosvāmī has invoked the blessings of the Lord, who is all-powerful (prabhaviṣṇave namaḥ). As the all-powerful Lord accepts the humble service of His devotee in devotional activities of the arcana, His form as the worshipable Deity in the temple, similarly the body of a pure Vaiṣṇava changes transcendentally at once when he gives himself up to the service of the Lord and is trained by a qualified Vaiṣṇava. The injunction of Vaiṣṇava regulation in this connection runs as follows: arcye viṣṇau śilā-dhīr guruṣu nara-matir vaiṣṇave jāti-buddhiḥ śrī-viṣṇor nāmni śabda-sāmānya-buddhiḥ, etc. "One should not consider the Deity of the Lord as worshiped in the temple to be an idol, nor should one consider the authorized spiritual master an ordinary man. Nor should one consider a pure Vaiṣṇava to belong to a particular caste, etc." (Padma Purāṇa) [SB 2.4.18 purport]
@krsnaoldschool
@krsnaoldschool Год назад
Pease have a live debate with HG Kalakantha Prabhu and HG Vasu Gosh Prabhu so we can learn and understand both sides of the issue.
@iskconunityindiversity
@iskconunityindiversity Год назад
Actually HG Kalakantha Prabhu did ask for a discussion session with HG Basu Ghosh Prabhu, but Basu Ghosh Prabhu refused.
@samspade2657
@samspade2657 Год назад
@@iskconunityindiversity Not true
@samspade2657
@samspade2657 Год назад
Unity in perversity. No ones mind has been changed you are just gas lighting and being sentimental avoiding the highest pramana - sastra. By espusing equality for women you have adoped the mentality of the demons as SP explains in the purport of BG 16.7.
@chandrashekharaswami8159
@chandrashekharaswami8159 Год назад
What does it mean to say "We are not this body?" Are only 50% of people not their bodies? This is sastra. Can we rise above our bodies? If not, why pursue Krishna Consciousness?
@samspade2657
@samspade2657 Год назад
@@chandrashekharaswami8159 You are not your body but you still have a body. And it is the reason why sannyasis fall down with women. A tiger is also not its body so embrace it. SInce you and a woman are not your bodies then why not embrace each other? And it is Srila Prabhupada who said that it is demoonic to promote what you are doing -- feminism -- I didn't say it, he did. So you are behaving like a demon.Truly foolish you are.
@chandrashekharaswami8159
@chandrashekharaswami8159 Год назад
To: Sam Spade: Tigers are not studying Bhagavatam nor does Vedic knowledge suggest they should. Prabhupada said and I also agree that association with the opposite sex is dangerous for spiritual life, that is never alone together--a man and a woman. Prabhupada did have Vaishnavis giving Bhagavatam class and it was Prabhupada who created the Brahmacarini ashram. This is association within the same temple. Prabhupada said, in the conversation with Professor O'Connoll, that a woman could become Guru and in that same conversation, Prabhupada said, "Of course, because superficially, bodily, there is some distinction, so we keep women separately from men, that's all. Otherwise, the rights are the same." These are Prabhupada's words. Prabhupada agrees that there must be some separation and yet he explains that a woman can become Guru. This is not some modern deviation. This is our philosophy that we can rise above our Upadhis or designations. At the same time we don't tempt fate by unlimited mixing or mixing in some foolish way.
@samspade2657
@samspade2657 Год назад
@@chandrashekharaswami8159 I wrote a long reply but deleted it. You are impervious to good sense. Since you are affected by demonic doctrines the time for sama-niti has long passed. It is the time for danda-niti. ISKCON India is very angry with you, very ANGRY. That anger can not be assuaged. Polarization taken to its logical conclusion will be schism. I will be happy. Then we won't have to deal with fools and can focus on preaching. You can go your own impotent way. Make as many FDGs as you want and still fail. Get woke and go broke. In the mean time Krishna Life in Atlanta is distributing more books than all the temples East of the Mississippi together. They are making devotees. You are not. In 18 months they went from 5 devotees to 23 and growing. From renting an apartment to owning a $2M property. They are empowered by Lord Caitanya. You are not. You got nothing to show. And your foolish FDGs will only make it worse. They are succeeding by stricly following and not compromising. But you are failing. At mangala arotika you have more Deities than devotees. Empty temples. No book distribution. No new devotees. No life. Just depression. That is why we want to stay away from you so that we don't catch your disease. They future of ISKCON is very dark. But, the future of Guru and Gauranga's mission is very bright. Prabhupada's mission will not fail, but ISKCON will not get the credit.
@raunaqgupta540
@raunaqgupta540 Год назад
@@chandrashekharaswami8159 other 50% are also soul but such souls resides in women body. So AS TO SHOW THE EXAMPLE to the world that Vedic way of living is best as this is Krsna's way. That doesn't mean that these women are incapable of becoming spiritual masters but they are equally capable as men and can take charge in the Times of emergency. And that's why Srila Prabhupada says women can become guru but at the same time women's not given any responsible post. Also world has already seen the disruption feminism has done to this world.
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