It was an amazing pleasure to visit you in your natural environment Jörg :-) Thank you (and yours) for your hospitality and the opportunity to create this video together. I had a blast and look forward to the next steps in this process. Mit freundlichen Gruss, Marten
@@GUNNER67akaKeltYou would have to wait for a retail option he sells them higher because he is one man doing everything, he has to mark it up to make anything
Suggestion: bevel the guard from the outside toward the blade so that the guard guides the tip of the opposite blade into its slot to minimize the chance of stabbing your hands as you sheath the knives.
Imagine a mugger pulling a basic pocket knife on you and you pull out this thing like an anime protagonist. Dude's gonna turn around and leave. Self defense through intimidation alone.
You have done a phenomenal Job on this project! I look forward to the durability tests for the production models. If they do a good job I'd very much like to get one!
I'd like to see this idea applied to a sword, if only as a movie prop style mockup. There are twin swords in that style with the blade and hilt being the same length, like the one used by Gordon Liu in "Kill Bill Volume 1". But with this mechanism, you could make a similar twin sword set with shorter grips but longer blades, resulting in more natural short sword proportions.
You could even design a full length Katana where you draw a normal Katana out of a sheath, but then pull the top end of the sheath and draw a second full length Katana. The first one would be basically a normal Katana but with the blade mounted slightly to the side, and the second one would have an extending blade of this style that extends by the length of a hilt, while having a pass-through for the other Katana. The first Katana is a normal fixed blade, and the second Katana is part of its sheath but pulls out to be the same length as the first one. Not at all practical but would be very cool in a movie.
Or you could have swords draw from opposite ends of a sheath like Shinomori Aoshi's twin Kodachi from Rurouni Kenshin. Though while his are two short swords point-to-point in one extraordinarily long sheath, with one hilt disguised as part of the sheath, you could fit full length blades into a single normal sized sheath and still disguise the second hilt as part of the sheath.
I would say it can even be applied to a more compact version of a polearm like a nagamaki or pudao or even greatsword, depending on the overall length of the handle, while the scabbard is half the length of the handle. Basically an almost 2 meter polearm can be compacted into 1.2 - 1.5 meter instead (with a top scabbard), like a normal arming sword length.
@@crozraven A Nagamaki could just be done as an OTF. No sheath needed. But something like a Naginata or Pudao could be done either by having the blade be an OTF and the handle extend out the other side, or it could be a folder. If the handle is double the length of the blade, you just need to make the blade fold in and the handle fold in half and it would close down to a third of the length. Making the handle fold could even accommodate a blade twice as thick as the handle.
@PenneySounds OTF used spring system & I doubt locking system could handle the mass of the blade. My point is this design is much simpler & arguably stronger for a longer/heavier blade. in the case of nagamaki example, let's say we have 100 cm handle, while the blade 130 cm (already included 20 cm full tang for strength), that would make overall sheathed mode up to 130 cm, while the unsheathed mode up to 210 cm, which is pretty impressive. You can basically carry it like a normal katana.
Woher nehmt ihr nur all diese großartigen Ideen? Wer will so ein tolles Messer nicht haben? Ich bin schon ganz heiß auf den Hirschfänger. Jörg, du machst mich echt arm.
This is such an excellent idea! I would really like you also to come out with additional handle/sheaths that allow you to carry the blades independently.
Excellent! I’d like to see 2 or more options of different sizes, such as an edc size and a zombie apocalypse size for example. Thanks for all the work you do!
Im not into eastern martial arts weapons, but DANG, I WANT ONE OF THESE!!! This is so cool!!! The 3d printed prototype is perfection. Congratulations to you both. If I can afford one (I doubt it), I would love to own one!
Blade length is still very important here because it is visually striking to see a blade emerge from a handle half the length. I’m sure they will get the right balance of blade length and stability. Not every knife needs to be full tang, these knives are for show.
I love the idea and will try to get one. However, the "probably not think that this is a knife"-part could become a problem in Germany. In order to prevent a classification as hidden knife ("verdeckte Hieb- oder Stoßwaffe", which would be forbidden), please chose a look that clearly shows it is a blade weapon (e.g. the black finish of the Tanto prototype).
@@Slingshotchannel Es sollte noch als Filetiermesser beworben werden, nicht dass das BKA noch auf die I#dee kommt, es als Waffe einzustufen (Klingenform) und es vorbei wäre mit dem Führen. Vielleicht gleich einen BKA-Bescheid mitliefern, um eifrigen Polizisten keinen Grund für eine Sicherstellung zu liefern...
Yes its fantastic already sent vid to 3 friends yes id want one (as lots of sharks and gators where i play lol) its a stellar design blade and tge concept of dual blades is still genius. im hoping price wont be prohibitve to many.Cant wait to see first run.Start small see how fast they sell..
Another great knife design. And another limited edition. And another knife that will be probably available for those who have time enough to be online 24/7 to be ready to order when it will be available. For such a masterpiece the price is expected to be higher, that's ok. You get 2 knives, as Jörg said.
For some reason, I kind of like Joerg's aesthetic more! In my opinion, sandblast finish is not enough. The handles could be redesigned for better grip and to feel safer in hand.
The sandblasted look is only the result of the printing process. We certainly want a nice surface treatment perhaps with partial roughness and smoothness. Some of the renders I posted on Instagram a while back show a suggestion of this. The colour of this printed proto is also simply a result of the choices in Alumide we could pick from. Not the final item :-)
I would be Very interested in a Full Tang version with half the blade length too Guys! I can only foresee complete success with this first design Joerg & Marten!
Ive made some wooden models since i saw your videos of the first prototype and another way of carrying I've found is having a belt loop between the blades, and pulling it apart to detach it. That way theres no need for any pouch or attachment piece. Obviously with a sharp steel blade deployment could come at the cost of cutting off that belt loop as well as having the blades slightly in open position but I think i think with a little tweaking this carrying method still has promise
Add some kind of anti-slip barred grip to the handle. While messing around in the backyard, i noticed it does matter to have a good anti slip handle on a knife so you can have more confidence in stabbing and slashing things.
"Doesn't look like a knife" could be a legal complication in some places where concealed carry of knives is restricted. I can see a cop with an ax to grind saying the length of blade not retracting means that "fixed blade" laws apply. The blade length as a "folding" knife is a legal problem some places.
It is easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission. Could actually be done because it's a new concept. 😊 Yes I want two definitely,....?. Both halfs !!!! 😂😅
I want one. I need one. And the only problem is, that I want to buy some for my friends as well! Also I'm immensely looking forward to the Hirschfänger! 😍
Fantastic work! Great tool for hiking in areas with predators. Great profile for horizontal belt carry, front and rear. Definitely need to really give that mount serious testing. I'd be concerned about a branch, gear or ones arm hooking an end and it popping out, especially when carried at your rear. I'm sure you will have a good solution by production time. Look forward to seeing more!
My knife brothers, you really have big respect and big love in Serbia!!! Thank you for giving us houpe that soon we will be able to get this products! They are beyond perfection! God bless you!!!
Interesting to see just a compact knife with a single blade and short sheath. Two blades are not always needed, and one long blade in a compact form will find many more connoisseurs.
I like the ingenuity of this thought. It would be possible but I see two challenges: - The groove would actively take away overlap between one side of the blade and grip currently aiding in its balance and strength when fully extended… Even if only 1.5 mm for a 3mm thick cord it does mean taking away 6,8% of the overlap. - There is nothing keeping the blade handles from sliding apart besides the friction of the blades in their own handles when you pull them out towards their locks. This is also why the current holder is shaped around the guards to ensure the blades don’t slide partially open by accident. In the case of your cord suspension idea that would mean you instantly lose them. Thanks for thinking outside the box though! That’s how great ideas happen.
@@Slingshotchannel $600 is absurd. That's more than I charge for repeating crossbows. The cost of materials isn't remotely close to that much, so please improve production methods instead of overvaluing poor production methods.
@@Slingshotchannel @THOR_THE_GOD With respect, if you are basing retail pricing on cost of materials, your business is in trouble. Comparing a glorified hot glue gun printed crossbow to a high precision device, that was designed from the ground up, is really funny. Consider the hours and hours of investment in designing. Hours to design the tooling to produce such a product. Then there's legal research, materials research and destructive testing. Development of brand and product graphics and color ways. Prototyping packaging. Tools and machinery to make said packaging. Time invested in arranging shipping from manufacturer and warehousing inventory. Time setting up shipping and delivery to the customer. Liability insurance. Shipping insurance. Promotional 'freebies'. Trade show costs. Video making costs. Advertising costs. Business insurance. Lawyer fees. Covering lost shipments. Hundreds of hours on phone calls and emails. Filling out paper work....have you ever experienced German bureaucracy and it's famous paper work!?!?! LOL! Getting just a glimpse of picture? And the irony of your declaration is made all the more funny and insulting given the crossbow you charge money for is clearly based on Joerg's repeating crossbow design. Did you even create the 3D print design yourself or just copy someone else's work? What you are doing is so far removed from what Joerg does, it makes an apple and orange look like twins. 😉👍
I got my little brother a staff that split and became swords. One thing found cumbersome was the blades were the same length and placing them back in the scabbard with the length of the blades made it difficult. My thoughts were to make one blade an inch longer to start the process easy.
Love the innovations and engineering on this channel. If I had the money, I'd buy it just for the clever mechanism and novelty. I'd want it as an interesting show-piece at the very least!
A long sliding blade coupled with a fixed full tang short blade would also be really interesting. And it would be much easier to guide the different blade lengths when sheathing too. Really great concept, I like it a lot.
You need the opposing blade to interface with the lock of the longer blade to disengage its lock though so that wouldn’t work. Have a look at the explanation video linked under this one if you need extra insight into what is going on. Always appreciate people giving their thoughts so thank you for participating here!
@@nirodha7028 A button (un)lock on one side ( the longer blade side) would be cheaper to produce, be considerably less complex and would facilitate easier sheathing. So no, I don't see it being a problem. Regardless, still like the concept, it's great, but I do wonder how the knives would feel given the blades aren't centred in their respective handles?
@@space.youtubewell… An unlock button on the outside would be possible yes… it would not be cheaper in any way though. You are not creating less parts or assembly steps then we already have in the currently defined design. The off centeredness of these blades is pretty much similar to the Temu short ones… so if you own a pair of those you can get a sense for it. We really maximized the closeness of the blades relative to each other. There is only 2 mm of material in between them.
The debate on "who did what first" is always like the two guys talking about "close relations" with a mare: "I had her first!" "But it was I that made her neigh..." 🙂
i like it ... if you find two mushrooms at once in the forest, you can pick them at the same time. I'm sure Nancy Faeser will envy every single owner ;-))
I think the idea is much too good for just a limitid edition! 😁 But you should shorten the blade- and handlelengh a little bit, just to make it more practicle (size about the classic Cold Steel Kobun)
