Hidden Door Bookshelf | Outswing | Full Build Video 

I’m glad it helped! Good luck with your project!

That is awesome! I’m so glad it worked out and you are happy with the results! I’d love to see a pic. Email onFIREfamily @ hotmail.com

Glad it helped with your project!

@@onFIREouttakes how do you determine the placement of the pivots?

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

Thanks! Good luck with your project!

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I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

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I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

Thanks! I’m glad it helped with your project!

Just finished a closet door/bookcase. The small cabinet magnets didn't work for me. Had to upgrade to a larger 4" magnet to keep the door closed. Had a little bit of spring in the bookcase and needed extra contact power

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@@onFIREouttakes It just occurred to me that a more reliable method of actuating the latch would be to use two solid steel rods with a bell crank to change the direction of motion from vertical to horizontal. This would eliminate the potential failure of wire or rope. Hope that's helpful! 🙂

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

@@onFIREouttakes Just purchased and downloaded my copy! Thanks so much!

@@onFIREouttakes One suggestion for future editions: Consider including the links to the hardware in the PDF. Thanks again!

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Wow. Lots of work. Well done!

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

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I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

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Thanks Mr. Chris! Glad you liked it!

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

Thanks! Yes, I think a magnet would work well. It just takes away a bit of the magic but should be totally effective.

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I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

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It's a pretty unimpressive attic storage space but I did add some LED light strips to spruce it up! Thanks for watching, David!

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Thanks! Good tip!

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I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

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I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

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Placement for me was trial and error by creating a template and adjusting the hinge point until I got the swing and clearances right. For the bookcase to not hit the frame when swinging, you do have to place them right (and top and bottom need to match, of course).

Thanks! Yeah, I’ll get around to more template details eventually.

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

Great idea. Thanks, Paul!

They do make large version of magnetic door latches like the old cabinets had. Worked great for my door. Got them at home Depot.

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

Yes, although it would be much harder to drill for that cup to be recessed. I’m not sure how it would work and you’d have to modify the bottom of the cabinet but you much think about mounting that bottom hinge upside down?

I shot for 1/4in gap at the bottom and then my half inch plywood trim plus 1/8" gap for the top.

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

Just caulking between the trim and wall. I added garage door trim seal to the top and bottom and it helps to seal that gap.

These hinges will not flip. The adjustable pin one will not support vertical weight. The bottom one has a ball bearing inside to make the opening smooth. You could fill the upper hole with a dowel though.

Thanks! The measurements are a little complicated so I made measured drawings to download. Check out the link in the description of the video below to download them.

@@onFIREouttakes hello, I don’t see links below for the measurements?

@@blakecramsie7059 you have to buy the drawings. Link in the description of the video.

Thanks, Todd! Yes, the instructions are terrible. I left half an inch gap on the hinge side and 1 inch on the latch side. The hinge point (trial and error for me) on my template is 3 in from the edge of the cabinet and 1 7/8” from the front of the shelf. I hope that helps!

@@onFIREouttakes yeah i WOULD HAVE LIKE MORE TIME SPENT ON MAKING THE TEMPLATE RATHER THAN WATCHING YOU RIP WOOD

Yeah, good feedback. So many folks have been interested in building this project, I may do another video and create a pdf drawing to help people. Best of luck.

@@onFIREouttakes amazing videos, very helpful. Count me in as one extremely interested in a pdf and material list. Can't wait to give it a try.

@@onFIREouttakes great video 👍. I am thinking of doing exactly this in one of our bedrooms corner space but have no idea where to start. A follow up video with a pdf details would be super awesome. Thanks so much for sharing!

Make sure the opening is square and plumb and that the wall is vertical. If it is, measure the same spot top and bottom from the frame (or make a template and use it to mark both hinge locations. That’s what I did anyway.

Probably with modifications. Most shelves are not strong enough on their own to support weight without sitting on the ground. If you strengthened it, and then framed the opening to fit the size of the shelf, it might work.

It's in the video description: Hinge: amzn.to/3nFNpBR, Latch: amzn.to/37AUpua Good luck with your project!

@@onFIREouttakes thank you

Yes, move the hinge point closer to the center and it should allow the door to swing clear of that trim.

I haven’t had an issue when fully loaded with books. Because it rides on a ball bearing, I think it would be just fine.

Sorry, I’ve never pushed it. They are very robust hinges. The bottom hinge holds all the weight. The top just keeps it from tipping and holds no weight. If you plan to fully load it with books it may give you trouble. If it’s just the bookcase with some decorations, you may be okay.

Good luck with your project!

Yes, that should work!

Thanks! Yeah, I could have used a second metal one as a backup but the 550 was flexible, handy, and easy to use.

@@onFIREouttakes Makes sense too. Thanks for the vid. I hope to start my door project in a few wks when I get some time to concentrate on it.

Unfortunately, no. When you install it this way you have to have that hold to access the screw that adjusts the pin.

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

Yeah, the link is in the description of the video. Some mobile devices or TV's don't show the descriptions so you may need a desktop.

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

That's a tough one. These hinges might work for that application. You'd just swing the entire cabinet with a door on the front. Clearance on that hinge side will be an issue though.

Thanks!

Sorry for the delayed response! I bet you’ve got it fixed by now. I just mortised some of the plates (the top). The bottom I left proud of the frame (and shelf).

I have no experience with them and how they mount but if it’s accessible from the outside to manually actuate (or change batteries) it should work. Maybe a magnet to hold it closed too so it doesn’t just pop open every time you walk by.

It is linked in the description of the video. Good luck with your project!

I don’t think it’s possible to trim out both sides to make it look good with these hinges from both sides. One side will always lack the trim necessary to hide that it’s a door.

@@onFIREouttakes Thank you for your response. I am now a subscriber!!

There’s a link to the exact one I used in the video description.

I left half an inch gap on the hinge side and 1 inch on the latch side. The hinge point (trial and error for me) on my template is 3 in from the edge of the cabinet and 1 7/8” from the front of the shelf. I hope that helps!

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

The gap is different on each side (for mine). Details are in the plans (link in description). If you still have questions, shoot me an email and I’m happy to help!

Thanks! Good luck with your project! Ask here. I try to respond to every question (and it might help someone else with their build). Best of luck!

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

@@onFIREouttakes thank you so much!!! Your drawings came just at the perfect time!!! The work rgd the insulation is now done and I am about to start building the door!

@@chicoespertoensina5317 Excellent! I’m so glad it’s helpful to you! Good luck with your project and let me know if anything is unclear in the plans!

@@onFIREouttakes Hey Seth. Nice to approach you again. So I am now building the structure that allows access to the Hideout. I made 2 book shelves out of 3. The one that is in the center (the one I didn't make yet) matches the dimensions of the opening to the Hideout. Above the book shelves I have plasterboard so the wall made of plaster will have the same continuity as the bookshelf. In the opening in the place where I am going to attach the hinge mechanism I have a brick full of cement inside (this brick is hidden behind the plaster wall) I have two questions: 1) At the backside of the bookshelves should I put a wood or do you think a thin plywood will work? I am asking this because it would be much easier with the last option. Plywood I need the one that we can bend it. 2) Can I set the hinge mechanism in the door frame- in this case inside the brick (it was the reason I put it)? Or should I install a wood just below to attach the hinge? Thank you so much again

Mine is 7inches deep. I hope that helps. Good luck with your project!

@@onFIREouttakes Is that including the 1/2 ply on the back?

I just measured and it’s 6.75in for shelf depth. 7.25in with the back on it.

I left a 1in gap between the door and the frame on the non-hinge side for clearance.

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

I use the contractor saw version of this amzn.to/3lMwPky (from SawStop). I've been very happy and love the safety features of it. Everything is available here: amzn.to/3y8ntVn

I have the cast iron extensions (rather than the stamped metal) and also the larger extension to the right of the blade. As I have the contractor saw, I made the cart it sits on. You wouldn't have to do that with the pro (cabinet saw).

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

This might be my favorite comment. Thanks, Tom!

@@onFIREouttakes with all respect of course!

Of course! 🙂

Thanks, Becky! I like Ryobi and they have been great tools. Lasting well. I've tossed a couple of my older batteries, 5 years old or so, because they stopped holding a charge for long but other than that I've been very happy. Magnet latch is a good idea, thanks! If it's an outswing style of french door you seek, maybe this design will work (just add a mirror image of it on the opposite side). There are many more videos out there for inswing doors if that's what you're looking for.

@@onFIREouttakes thanks for the suggestion. I'll see what we can figure out. Could one use a piano hinge instead of the hinges you use, or would that be ill advised?

I think long ones that would cover most of the length of the door would work.

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

Yeah, I think maybe that would work (although I’ve not tried) and it would come through the bottom shelf and you’d need to hide that.

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!

You would just need to recess the hinge cup in the floor but otherwise that would work just fine.

Oh no! Sorry, Lindsi! Yes, that's exactly what I would do. Recess the face plate of the hinges where you need to to provide that clearance. Hit me up if you have more trouble and I can try to help you out.

It swings just fine fully loaded with books and hasn’t sagged at all after over a year.

Depending on the type of door you’re doing, ie. full length or short like this one. If it’s full length, you can add a spring loaded gate caster to roll on and help support the load. The hidden hinges take a pretty good amount of load so this shorter door can get away with just hinges.

This is an out swing as it comes out from the hidden attic into the room. There are easier designs/hinges if you want the bookshelf to swing into the wall. If you just want to change which side the hinge is on, yes, you can just put it on the other side of the frame. I hope that helps, David! Thanks for watching!

@@onFIREouttakes I switched that didnt I?! I meant in LOL

Yes, I think you could move the hinges to the other side of the frame and more toward the corner. Honestly, there are cheaper hinges to accomplish an inswing.

I know it was a long time coming but I now have measured drawings available for this project. Sorry it took so long! You can find them here: onfirefamily.com/plans/ or at the link in the description of this video. I hope they help you with your project! Let me know what you think!