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In this conversation John explores some of the many levels of sight - from a worm's eye view to an eagle's - from human negativity that sees a world of suffering and death, to the pure heart of meditation, which transfigures it to light. It is clear and uplifting.
You can now listen to John on Spotify and other audio platforms. Here is his most popular recording 'Common sense guide to meditation' (1m views) - ffm.to/commonsenseguidetomedi....
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@SpiritualUnfoldment 3 года назад

You can now listen to John on Spotify and other audio platforms. Here is his most popular recording 'Common sense guide to meditation' (1m views) - ffm.to/commonsenseguidetomeditation.

@RPKGameVids 6 лет назад

The ASMR is strong with this one!

@spiritualanarchist8162 5 лет назад

Butler is one of those few exceptions who can use Christian mystical wisdom, without getting atheist all annoyed & defensive . It shows how deeper truths are not bound to any philosophy or religion..

@Hawksmere 3 года назад

Truth is found through practice of religion, not solely reading of it. The beauty should not be dismissed. Religion is great and atheism is also a religion.

@spiritualanarchist8162 3 года назад

@@Hawksmere No, truth is found trough experience. Religion without experience is meaningless rituals and dogma.

@TheBassHeavy 5 лет назад

I really enjoy both the interviewer and the interviewee.

@Agui007 6 лет назад

Reading some of these comments show how saturated in chaos and unkindess many still are. Your perceptions of the world will not change until you do. I sincerely hope you find true liberation. John has reached his enlightment!! 🙌

@LooopQ 6 лет назад

I could listen to this guy talk about pencils

@paulr2353 6 лет назад

Matt Orsie me too. Great voice ...but after sleeping I actually listened to what he’s saying and I honestly can’t figure out what his point is. After listening a couple times it doesn’t sound like he’s saying anything. It’s kind of crazy because he’s saying the words with such conviction that you assume there’s substance to it. “Listen to the bells chiming...”. Haha. But I’m thankful that it puts me to sleep.

@aacra 6 лет назад

I completely agree. I find it hard not to fall asleep as his voice is so soporific and yet he actually says nothing really. It's as though he's voicing one long stream of consciousness without coming to any point or meaning. I am honestly at a loss as to how people find anything enlightening here.

@PatternRecognizer 6 лет назад

It's a heart knowledge, not a head knowledge. Without the experience he is drawing from, it won't sound substantial. I can say with conviction that this is some of the most substantial feeding I've had in a long time.

@lluna1266 6 лет назад

Matt Me too! I imagine he would talk about different kinds of pencils and the lead softness and how Jesus loves pencils

@ThePerfectSeason1972 6 лет назад

If you listen closely, he’s saying a lot. Listen to what he says. Life is simple, it’s not about Facebook, Twitter or pornography, which the internet is littered with. Just listen to the simple words.

@Seductive_Psycho 5 лет назад

I hope i have this amount of peace and understanding one day. Im so glad I found these videos..Thanks

@MrJagajg 6 лет назад

Love this man’s voice and content

@halwarner3326 6 лет назад

His journey was so painful to get here. God bless him, so wise and eager to share his wisdom.

@markdvnprt 4 года назад

Painful? What was so painful?

@benpaul6454 3 года назад

Immense pain is the only route to get to this point

@louisvanrenen947 6 лет назад

This man is authentic. Thanks to his insights, and to the man who presents this precious dialogue in this vast churning sea of you tube. Just listen to the living silence

@amandinhafreitas 6 лет назад

I just can watch and listen to him for days. I complete understand people being frightened by the layer of Christianity in John, a lot of people have been hurt by so called 'Christians" , but true Christians are those who can maintain constant communion with God. It's not an attempt to be perfect, but it's the nurturing of a relationship of the One True Father .For those who are Christians and want to read more about the subject I would recommend the Carmelite books ( Therese d'avilla, John of the Cross, etc) For the non Christians who are still interested in the journey towards understanding a connection to the divine I recommend " The Prophet" by Kahlil Gibran or "The Improvement of Human Reason: Exhibited in the Life of Hai Ebn Yokdhan" by Ibn Tuffail

@johnbutler4001 6 лет назад

Thank you, Crystal

@asmrscriptures6808 6 лет назад

Thanks for the reading suggestions. I will check them out

@allewis4008 5 лет назад

There's hollow people here demanding an answer, but they don't want the answer John gives them, they want to be told some godless, communist based feel-good story.

@AJ-ik8xk 4 года назад

You've both saved me life. Literally. Given me company and a way to unravel my mind. Thank you so much ❤️

@AJ-ik8xk 4 года назад

A sweet and wise man sharing his depression experience lifted a weight off of me. Helped me feel like it's all of us, not just me. I adore you both. Thank you

@ecstaticntropy 6 лет назад

I kind of pity the people that are responding to this video by criticizing the content of what this man is saying. I, for one, just tuned out what he was saying and let both the cadence and rhythm of his voice relax me.

@Agui007 6 лет назад

Kris Tavis Same here friend.

@dannydazzler1549 4 года назад

That's fine but listening to what people say is actually a good idea as well

@Musecollective 4 года назад

“From the lesser to the greater.” 🙏 Thanks Phil and John.

@jeevesosiris 6 лет назад

I would like to hear more from John please, I love these videos.

@pouriamontazeri 6 лет назад

Thank you, John. Thank you, Thank you!

@gra6799 3 года назад

In times of great challenge and suffering I walk and listen to help with deep depression and anxiety John brings much comfort wisdom insight and Inspiration into my life 💓 Thankyou Sir 🙏

@barontait4985 2 года назад

I know your path best wishes

@AJ-ik8xk 4 года назад

One of the most gentle, beautiful, wise, helpful talks ever given

@Devotionalpoet 3 года назад

Thank you so much for these reminders in the simplicity 🙏🏻

@comfymoder 6 лет назад

What a blessed man.

@RajeshSingh-hx2sc 6 лет назад

What a beautifully framed question in first four minutes. This simply tells that the interviewer has gone through all those stages of enlightenment and is equally authentic as John but is only playing role of interviewer for viewers sake eliciting beautiful answers from John!!!!

@philshanklandLife 6 лет назад

Thanks Rajesh - I can tell you are a perceptive viewer with deep insight. ;-)

@pettiprue 6 лет назад

Beautiful thank you. I love how the interviewer has trust in John to let him speak what is arising in him. I have found myself increasingly enraptured in non-duality over the last couple years. These Spiritual Unfoldment talks are helping me identify and let go of my resistance to 'Christianity' and my understanding of it. The light and the dark. My seperate identity has a light shining on it - however what I think is "hidden in plain sight" is that I am the light. Letting go of resistance feels like the key for me. That is what the interviewer is doing - letting go of his need to control and guide and allowing himself to fall into trust. Both of you enable a most beautiful portal into stillness. Cheers.

@SpiritualUnfoldment 5 лет назад

Thanks Erin. Only just appreciated your comment. Phil

@Awesomevids806 6 лет назад

God bless u John butler

@thespacefrogdigbaby2508 6 лет назад

This man is so beautiful and eloquent

@kimberlyherrmann6324 4 года назад

Thankyou So Much For The Insights 💜🙏💛

@truthseeker6584 2 года назад

wonderful teaching!

@barbara5051 3 года назад

I love your presence john

@hnky5 6 лет назад

thanks, hope you will continue to send

@Shadow1IFCVA 5 лет назад

Thank you.

@carlosivan2243 3 года назад

Admiring everything about these videos much love from the other side.

@fathieh3 4 года назад

Love you John ❤️

@bkneezy 5 лет назад

14:56 can't believe john was a top boy on the terraces. right loon back in the day. bakewell firm

@swirlingfudge 3 года назад

The funniest comment I've read on any of his videos 👏🏻

@caroledrury1411 2 года назад

I’ve been duped in being told this is from four hours ago. Oh well. It was brilliant. But I long for the present conversations.

@CrummyVCR 6 лет назад

Wow..., he reminds me so much of Roberts Blossom from Home Alone.

@birgitbofarull4410 4 года назад

Seared through my being. What wisdom .

@shanehill9429 5 лет назад

great stuff the world will know soon!

@mvdeehan 6 лет назад

Wonderful stuff. I would have liked to have heard Phil’s questions too though.

@Clone42 6 лет назад

Gotta throw a high pass filter on John's audio. I always like listening to him speak, thanks.

@TylerCalvinDiaso 4 года назад

I like the love the longer videos a lot better!!

@abhinav2715 4 года назад

I was using my speakers for this video until John started to speak and I knew that I had to put my headphones on.

@oksanasears470 4 года назад

My speaking, conversational voice, my social interaction , physical movement has disappeared, but I have been trying to stay in the present and 'just be' ....( but thoughts of unproductivity enter my mind here and there, countered with wanting to do this and that), and I have been 'working' at things I truly enjoy....I don't even know if this is making any sense.....I had more of a structured routine for years, even a few days ago! .....oh.oh....feel like I'm in a dream.....

@joroboro 2 года назад

Sounds like you've experienced a profound transformation (it's helpful to have a teacher or a guide). How are you doing today? Have you managed to integrate your experience with the "default world"?

@asmrscriptures6808 6 лет назад

For all the people who are saying things about how stupid John's remarks are, try listening next time. The very first thing he talks about is expanding our horizons and seeing things differently, realizing how many different vantage points exist for the same situation. Way to prove his point guys

@asmrscriptures6808 5 лет назад

@@studio_dbm your comment proves you didnt watch the video, as he indeed talks first about different view points, humans and worms specifically. Also your juvenile attack on his outlook proves my point, that he speaks about seeing things from a different point of view and most people are incapable of doing so. I think that giving examples that show the point that someone is trying to make is exactly what proof, is and how it works. I have done just that 3 times now, you should try it next time instead of mud slinging.

@asmrscriptures6808 5 лет назад

@@studio_dbm You know nothing about me. I can see your point of view because I've lived it for many years. You don't understand the concept of proof or irony and yet you claim I'm intellectually lacking. All you've done is childish attacks on myself and others, you've offered no intellectual thoughts what so ever. Which is why, as entertaining as this has been, I must say farewell

@dna1ism 5 лет назад

The spiritual realm is sort of like viewing reality in a sort of poetics. Where one thing may be understood through metaphor and the like. That is what John means when he says there are different ways of perceiving the ordinary as a beautiful and artistic manner. Which may reveal further, and beautiful truths.

@dna1ism 5 лет назад

Jeremy, no offense of course we are all entitled to an understanding but one must really enjoy literature and speech in order to really participate in John's ideas. Much like all things of this kind! It is art! And you do not have to understand art as gospel unless it resonates and strikes you, otherwise you are free to try other methods of truth. That's the way of the human. Philosophy is awesome and there are so many perspective and view points! You want ontological! You can definitely get it in various forms! It's AWESOME!

@Bingbangboompowwham 5 лет назад

I've watched all these videos several times over. Pleasant to listen to but for the most it's just a meandering string of free-association

@khemparsram8839 4 года назад

I am so much in love listening to John...the more I hear him every single day... things are getting into perspective and clearer. He talks about things that no one ever does. My question is how does he meditate and what or how are we to do the same. Does he have any mantras. I am curious to know.

@karen2190 6 лет назад

Be still ...look at what is a pure heart. There is where the truth is.

@keepitsimple4629 4 года назад

As soothing as John's voice is, I actually like Phil's better. It's so pretty and dignified.

@SMFFL100 4 года назад

I click on the videos where his beard looks the most bushy. It tends to give the best asmr voice

@raphaelgarcia7365 5 лет назад

Beautifully put John. Thank you..

@markdvnprt 4 года назад

John, what about "balance"? The universe is made up of opposites. Up, down. In, out. Right, wrong. Left , right. Good, bad. Night, day. Dark, light. Etc, etc. We must accept this simple reality. And maintaining that balance is critical to well being. One can not seek only one side and acheive balance with the world around us. Seeking only light and peace and not accepting dark and conflict is only pursuing a futile goal and ignoring the reality of half of the universe.

@Awesomevids806 6 лет назад

More plz jhon butler is a angel from heaven God bless him

@mark_nz 5 лет назад

I like how he is espousing a mysticism that Christianity has regrettably lost. And yet these seemingly 'eastern' concepts of meditation, awakening etc are so very compatible with that Christian tradition. Gnosticism comes to mind :)

@horatio59 5 лет назад

I agree. I very much enjoyed John's talk and found echoes from what Advaita sages like Ramana Maharshi ,Robert Adams and Nisargadatta said,though they too,of course preferred silence

@dodibenabba1378 4 года назад

How has western Christianity lost community I'm in a great thriving community! I hate the phrase hidden in plain sight because it's a phrase often used in Freemasony, which is is anti Christ.

@doodooswaggy3825 4 года назад

@@dodibenabba1378 can i sniff you fart

@FingerBreakerWu 5 лет назад

Amazing that the ads that come before the most soothing voice on the planet are Groupon ads with Tiffany Haddish. 😖

@SpiritualUnfoldment 5 лет назад

Is that good or bad?! Are the ads too intrusive? Phil

@FingerBreakerWu 5 лет назад

I think the ads should be more in line with the subject matter. Tiffany Haddish is a loud, obnoxious, and annoying comedian which is a part of her schtick.

@joroboro 2 года назад

My impression is that the type of ads you see don't depend on the uploader but on your browsing and watching history.

@bariswheel 5 лет назад

The snow shoveler from home alone hasn't aged one bit! Amazing

@micheledeidda2565 4 года назад

Massive Attack should make a tune with this John guy.

@braddavis6219 4 года назад

I wish there was a channel of just John reading Shakespeare sonnets or something like that.

@jag8901 2 года назад

Jesus Phil your question is so long that you lost me 100 percent! Great job

@randy7068 5 лет назад

For those of you who still live in a free country, understand that each of us can believe in what we want, so long as it doesn't harm anyone. That does not mean you have to listen or participate. That is your individual right living in a free country.

@SpiritualUnfoldment 5 лет назад

Hi Randy - what prompted this? Do you live in a free country? Is your mind free? Phil

@rowanvn8696 6 лет назад

He needs a podcast

@Matt-iy3zy 4 года назад

Not even Christian, just a spiritual being having a human experience on a long strange trip which can relate to this shit on another level.

@cla3189 5 лет назад

“Think of worms eye view. How much does a worm see 🐛 “ Visionary

@LifesASong00 4 года назад

John talked about farming briefly a few times, but as a farmer, I'd love to hear more about his connection to nature. I'm quite distracted by the moving and wriggling and all the goings on in the soil and the water and around the roots of plants. If the natural world is always moving and changing, where is the stillness for a farmer?

@johndeschlong591 4 года назад

Movement is suspended in stillness

@whatevervideos542635 3 года назад

I know this is old but he talks about farming more in his books I believe

@josephsonoftheuniverse5541 6 лет назад

Return of the cicadas ... I love you ..I love all ...i am all ..

@dfrenchorn 6 лет назад

That it is nameless and formless.... 😵☹️😐 I think my ego just broke and gave up. Because when you said that and I honestly considered its implications, my mind was left with no purpose. And just.. I don’t know... what the, lol

@tiacarrie2561 6 лет назад

Devin Fish i hear you.

@nslfhq4309 5 лет назад

I see the sun but do I really SEE it? It all depends on if my mind is quiet and open. That is the true perception of the silence of the stones in these walls or the wonderful comfort of the loudness of the silent. Isn't it?

@JeffzBeard 5 лет назад

🎄

@bonnie8441 5 лет назад

Johns use of the word 'stillness' is the equivalent of Luo Dong's use of the word 'pwobwum'.Instead of falling asleep and being relaxed in a quiet place.It's better to make the most of the real world,rather than preparing yourself for eternal stillness.Deep down we all know there's nothing beyond.

@randybackgammon890 Год назад

Now we don't KNOW anything about the beyond.No ones come back to say for sure.Its all supposition and everyone's got one✌️

@imkerrusin 2 года назад

What is the name of the tune used for the introduction of this video?

@awall1995 Год назад

Names and forms, mere labels to assign, Limitless and formless, silence divine. It cannot be grasped, nor can it be caught, For in the stillness, it is all that is sought. Beneath the surface, hidden in plain sight, The truth of being, a radiant light. It shines within us, beyond space and time, A constant reminder, all is not as it seems to be. We search for meaning, in words and in form, But true understanding, lies in the norm, The silence between, the spaces in between, Where the infinite resides, and can be seen. So let go of names and forms, that bind and restrict, And open yourself to the silence, that is always present. For it is in the quiet, that true wisdom is found, And the hidden truths, of existence are unbound. Limitless and formless, it surrounds and embrace, It is the ever-present, it is the space. In which all things reside, including ourself, And it is from there, true freedom is felt.

@captal6187 4 года назад

Why would some folks put thumps down?? If you don’t like it, just move on.

@ommok1980 4 года назад

Well...I believe that peace should not be achieved with a single method, but there are different ways to get there

@ruthie_rosario 5 лет назад

Starts at 4:25

@MelissaBliss 4 года назад

🥰

@jayh708 4 года назад

What is the intro music?

@Nathan-xf9ph 6 лет назад

Answers aren't really direct to the questions, very blank to be left open to interpretation. Relaxing none the less.

@Awesomevids806 6 лет назад

I wonder if this man has any idea what he is talking about none the less amazing man to listen to

@ahs7322 3 года назад

I found the answers to these questions in "Science and Health" by Mary Baker Eddy.

@psyopmatrixsystemprojectio176 5 лет назад

I have read in the gospel of Thomas and else wherever that if you make the 2 into 1 the male and the female being mind feminin as receiver and thought male but it also said that if you take the smallest part of your thoughts away you lack and became animalnature it is also said to raise our dead... I tried the cut out 👁 meditation 🧘‍♂️ but it didn’t work wonder it is also not mentioned at all so I found for myself to seek Christ within In wholeness

@Zazou_96 5 лет назад

Could soneone cut tze questions out so that i can fall asleep better an faster?

@justincase4126 6 лет назад

26:25 sounds like the interviewer is trying to reach the last sip of a slurpy with a straw...

@dtrinity3430 4 года назад

Justin Case lol 😂😂😂😂

@FlipMacz 3 года назад

🤣😂🤣😭😆

@JohanLGT 5 лет назад

This guy should be a pilitician. He mastered the art of making a mess with a simple question and not responding it.

@Twilightsummerbreeze 4 года назад

How do you handle the everyday fetters of the world now as opposed to when you were young? Such as, standing at the checkout counter and your card not working, or being cheated by a car dealer and nothing you can do about it?

@GG-mx9fj Месяц назад

The answer is in your question.“there is nothing you can do about it.” Good or bad: This too shall pass.

@Hungry4Haggis 5 лет назад

I see John starts off beside some racing gallops on this video. Is he a horseman as well as farmer?

@Zavakar 5 лет назад

The music in the beginning sounds like it belongs on a snobby yacht commercial

@SpiritualUnfoldment 5 лет назад

Could you be more specific - what type of yacht? Which ones are you familiar with? I first came across this music by Flipside on a lazy Sunday afternoon at a music festival called 'Summer Sundae' in Leicester, UK about 2005. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_Sundae#2005_Lineup. The snobby yacht commercial music you are thinking of is Richard Hawley's 'The Ocean' from his album 'Coles Corner' here in Sheffield. I was more than surprised to hear it on the TV in a tiny bar in Punta Mujeres on Lanzarote in the commercial break of the Transatlantic Yacht Race. Phil. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wYoNrmJe9LA.html

@Zavakar 5 лет назад

@@SpiritualUnfoldment I knew i heard that type of music somewhere. I did some digging to refresh my memory. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4ZihM9GSZsU.html Haha so funny, its not bad or anything it just reminded me of it :) Anyway, i really enjoy these videos so thanks for Putting them up

@micheledeidda2565 4 года назад

not quite sure whether he managed his way out of depression

@TimD.Morand 6 лет назад

John definitely has an Alan Watts vibe going on.

@visiionartsway 6 лет назад

Tim D. Morand Alan had much more of an insight on enlightening his audience, he didn’t take any Religion too seriously. But I see what you mean

@daddyzhoam 6 лет назад

There is something so deeply cynical about repeatedly listening to content you think is utter BS, just because the guy has a relaxing voice. I always wondered how someone like Bob Ross, who spent his whole life trying to show people that painting was easy and anyone could do it, would feel about the fact that today half his audience just turns on his show as background noise, not even watching the paintings that were his life's work. Probably the same way John Butler would feel if you told him that half his audience wouldn't care if he was talking about whale turds just so long as he gave them the TINGLESSSS OMG

@angusmcintosh1857 5 лет назад

daddyzhoam Of course I can’t be sure, but I rather think both Bob Ross and John Butler had/have enough generosity of spirit to be happy that their work brings pleasure and peace to others in whatever form.

@ocellaris1 5 лет назад

Is this inspired by rosicrucian teachings?

@lunk7110 6 лет назад

video doesn't start til the 4 minute mark

@dannydazzler1549 4 года назад

Really, I watched the first 4 minutes of the video and the interviewer made an introduction. Didn't you see it?

@philipjohnson331 6 лет назад

1:40

@toenailjunebug5620 6 лет назад

This video looks like it was shot by Wes Craven.

@charleeboytruth8195 6 лет назад

Toenail Junebug. Who the fuck is Wes Craven when he's out?

@malorywood2944 2 года назад

I've noticed every time Phil speaks, his mic is ten times LOUDER and is super jarring. The "uhhh, uhhhh"s break the asmr a bit too and are very distracting. Is there a way to turn the mic down? I mean no disrespect!

@buckybass2409 6 лет назад

I can’t ever remember what the question was

@cnrbsmth 5 лет назад

thats cos hes talking mince from the word go

@mintybadger1238 6 лет назад

If Father Christmas was real

@oksanasears470 4 года назад

Any thoughts, or words of wisdom to my recent comment please

@lincolncity9 6 лет назад

It you don't want the berries then don't shake the bush.

@randy7068 5 лет назад

He has berries in his bush? Gross!

@StevieWeevie66 6 лет назад

It's Santa Claus!

@treymarema9930 6 лет назад

That was kinda rude

@hawk2million 6 лет назад

I think both John Butler and Father Christmas would be alright with it. It made me chuckle.

@RayBowie93 5 лет назад

You know it's truth when it sounds like bullshit to most. Of course it sounds like nonsense if you don't have your own experience of it because the whole thing is totally beyond habitual and conventional thinking. You can't really only listen to somebody talking in order to receive the experience which he's attempting to communicate.

@CharlieSammy 5 лет назад

The man introducing these videos sounds a great deal like Salad Fingers.

@Dogboy73 6 лет назад

Absolute codswallop but very nice to listen to.

@reders123 6 лет назад

Dogboy73

@bunsonbaker4156 6 лет назад

I disagree

@jeremyfrancispiano2 5 лет назад

True wisdom is foolishness to even the most intellectual mind. You may have things to unlearn.

@Bingbangboompowwham 5 лет назад

Jeremy Francis how do you know OP's comment isn't "true wisdom"?

@dna1ism 5 лет назад

Truth is tricky. Have you ever heard the truth before?

@Youngy 6 лет назад

hes super red

@randy7068 5 лет назад

You mean read ?

@Clone42 6 лет назад

"Let's try not to talk about Christianity, because a lot of people seeking truths aren't Christian." John: "Okay, I'll quote the bible within 30 seconds and talk about the book of revelations and man's fall from paradise and how darkness is sin." I wonder if it would have been possible for John to attain "peace" without his Christian God (I'm hesitant to use the term "enlightenment", because it implies he truly knows something most don't, when he could be living in a delusion). Would John have been able to find peace without Christianity? He can't help but invoke it, even when asked not to! The stillness of God, the arms of God holding him, meditating in a church, etc. I am agnostic. I feel no God. There is no evidence of any God. If his God was dead, would John be at peace? If the universe just looked like a chaotic mess, without "creation", but a random sludge of iterative forms? Please ask him more about this, as he very quickly dodged the issue and turned it back into a bit of a bible-fest.

@SpiritualUnfoldment 6 лет назад

Thank you, Clone42, for those comments and questions which we will try to answer in another interview.

@MrMacdys 6 лет назад

I really like your approach Clone42! I've been sharing this for a long time now. Going beyond words, questionning always. Finding your own path in all the stuff you can find. What I'd like to ask you : What if all of this has really no matter and can't really answer what you are looking for ? I mean truly looking for, something that feels like a real answer, not an intellectual one. Everything that you share here is your actual standpoint, an opinion (true or not) - I'm not judging you for being right or wrong, really, I don't mind but... What would be the real question if your actual state was "I simply don"t know" ? What really help in spirituality - to me at least - is a perfect honesty with ourself and the openess to accept what we REALLY know and are at this exact moment. I know... it's a bit different from what you want to express but I wanted to share those little questions with you. Wishing you to find what you need. And what resonates the most within you.

@SpiritualUnfoldment 6 лет назад

hello again - you may find John's new video 'too Christian?' addresses your comment. Or perhaps not? Let us know.

@BakerWase 6 лет назад

Its just his language - Ramana was a hindu and achieved "peace". And yes, I found the video "too Christian?" very helpful. I am an admirer of C Hitchens, whom had alot to say about Christianity and the negativeness surrounding it. I've struggle to find decent and honest "awoken" christians; Gangaji is one, Anthony De Mello another; old mystics like Meister Eckhart - but no one today and no one who manages line up non dualism with Christianity so well. Thank you, love and blessings.

@darrellborland119 5 лет назад

@@BakerWase yes, Christopher Hitchins of course, was alcoholic. Talk about denial of "issues". In fact, a few years ago, my friend Bill O'Reiley had him on his show and had to cut him off, due to Hitchins being on an active bender. Talk about nonsense. Thanks for bringing HIS problems up.