everyone here should remember the he6se v2 goes on sale on adorama all the time for $700 brand new and they have returned (because people dont realize headphones can be this hard to power) like new ones as low as $550 fairly often. best fucking deal on headphones in existance if you ask me. also they take eq EXTREMELY well including bass. you can eq the bass high enough to literally rattle them on your head (if you have the power to drive them) and they don't distort AT ALL. they really are an incredible pair of headphones.
yeah these things need A LOT of power to go basshead level. dont know if the jot has enough to take this there. i'm almost at reference level on the dial (-8) on my marants with 90wpc @8ohms with a 15db boost to get it shaking a little. @badguygoodaudioreviews can you confirm if the jot can get these to basshead level?
@@chillaxing4957 with eq absolutely. A low shelf at 110hz an crank it as high as you want (compensating overall eq gain to avoid clipping) my a90 will do it just fine and the jot has almost that much power at 50 ohms.
@@x-techgaming they need a ton of power and an atom is straight up not enough. These aren't 600 ohm beyers, they're way more demanding. They have an advertised sensitivity of 83.5db/w but are closer to 80 in reality. Sometimes lower. It's a fact that an atom isn't enough, not an opinion. Ohm rating isn't the only thing that makes a headphone hard to power and achieving loud enough volume doesn't necessarily mean it's being powered fully either. These are quite literally about the hardest to power headphones in existence. Susvaras are about the same but their sensitivity is usually actually what they advertise and the he6se usually runs a little lower than advertised. Edit: just plugged them in single ended into my a90 and put source volume at max, high gain and volume knob cranked and i can listen to them. its really loud but not holy shit this is painful loud and the a90 is about twice the power of an atom single ended at that ohm rating.
The new grills on my HE6se toned down the harshness of the treble and really brought out the timbre and air. Maybe slightly better bass but overall much more "musical" and pleasant to listen to. Just found the new holy grail thanks to you.
@@BadGuyGoodAudioReviews me too!! i got the sundara and he-500. i hope someday get the he-6. hifiman should relaunch the he-500. maybe call it he-500se.
Getting pretty good with the editing. liking the new format for reviewing too, 3 part with a intro is money. yeah, these things are pretty epic for the price. driving them with a modern marants till the jot gets here.
I'm loving the new direction including headphones. It's hard to beat full sized headphones for comfort. Really looking forward to a comparison to Sundara since these would be more in my price range.
Thank you for review! It was 2 years, but it you read it, can you confirm you are using Dekini's Elite Sheepskin pads? At 0.50 I see the ear opening is oval in your pads while Dekoni's have round opening. Thank you!
Very nice review very appreciated, did you get a chance to try Arya Organic? Now it would be interesting a comparison between HE6 SE v2 and Arya Organic….
The portability and design has grabbed my attention. The aeon closed Rt is a lot cheaper I wonder is it has greater value. I might just grab those for now if I like them enough and feel like any improvement is worth the upgrade I’ll return and spend the extra money on the noire. That plan makes sense in my mind anyway.
@@matthuston1767 I don't know about "Noir" but Aeon 2 Closed was a disappointment. The power requirement and the fat cable defeat the portability claim. Also, the paint on the yokes chipped just by taking them out of the case and putting them back a few times. Even sound wise, I don't think it was worth $900.
@@TWiiZA that kind of sucks the d shaped pads and the positive reviews had me almost there. Is there something like it you would rec? I am a bass head as long as it doesn’t ruin the tone and accuracy of the rest of the range of response.
If you haven't, the Ananda is worth a listen. The Susvara is the best headphone, I've ever heard but the Ananda was the biggest surprise. One of my test tracks is Eternal - Angel of mine, with the Arya the female vocalist comes across grainy. I felt the upper mids to treble on the Arya were too intense. The Susvara was smooth and detailed which is odd and hard to explain, the Ananda is on the edge for me, not as smooth as the Susvara but not grainy.
Great reviews! The headphone channel made lately a nice comparison video between the various versions, I own the HE6 six screws and I confirm that compared to the HE6SE it sounds better, it would be interesting if you could try the original version too, it could shorten even more the gap with the older sister maybe. ..
Hmm, loving this review; setting me up nicely to transition to headphones wit ya Bruh!! Ahh, this might be my favorite video to date! Well presented, clear concise, and to the point = well respected high value content!! 🤘🏻👏🍷
Good job. Even if you and I apparently have different taste in music I appreciate your use of examples to support your perceptions and judgements of how the headphones reproduce music in the different parts of the frequency range. Thank you. You were quite detailed which means you thought about it a lot and put in a fair bit of work. I demur to your generalisation that a headphone etc that presents music with an exaggerated treble would tend to appeal more to the music lover than the audiophile. I wish to check that this is your view? Anyway thanks again for this review and your thoughts on what you value in audio reproduction.
@@BadGuyGoodAudioReviews ha, far from one. No lyrical skills here brotha. I also noticed I found that I enjoy the Jot 2 on low gain and volume knob from 12-2pm for best balanced sound.
Been saying this for 2 years. The he6se Rocks. I compared side by side with the Susvara, the he6se was more pleasing.... Susvara too bright with lots of sharp edges.
Mannnn... These do the 'wish you were here' like you're sitting in a chair, perhaps holding the microphone to Gilmore's guitar yourself, You're THAT close.... 👏🏻👏🏻💎
@@BadGuyGoodAudioReviews - I'm gonna have to have you answer my last proposed Q on 'P'- I gotta know... Cause both of these are bliss- the ear goggles and the ciems- I need both
You talked me into buying one of these. Actually got a v1 with Dekoni pads and honeycomb grills otw. They are in great shape. Should be here soon. Will be pairing it with a Schiit Gungnir Multibit [A2] > Jotunheim 2. Can't wait!
@@InDueTime25 LOVE this headphone. One of my favorite Open-Backs I have heard. IMO, works well with all genres. Most used combo as of late: Pi2AES [IIS] > SMSL VMV D1SE > Burson Soloist 3XP.
Abyss got a mail with a question from me and have not replied. I pay full price of course but I'd like better customer service/potential customer service
Great Review, the evolution of the style is like watching a flower bloom. I want to share an interesting song "Easter egg" I noticed recently. On the song "Moanin' by Lambert, Hendricks, & Ross" at around [1:39] mark you can hear right as the vocals come in someone turns up the volume in the mix a bit too loud, realizes it, then turns it back down. Just a fun little thing.
@@BadGuyGoodAudioReviews bro got sure..I’m always listening extra closely to worn-in albums as well as new ones alike. What happens about maybe 85-90% of the time is I’ll bring it back a little earlier in the recording than I needed to by a bit but it drives me crazy when I go too far...let’s be reasonable here..we’re talking seconds of difference difference in how far back I bring it all! I’d say within that 85-90% among turnstone be something awesome but in reality it’s always some ridiculous scenario within which I typically find something detail-oriented; This has actually happened to me 3 or four times now where I’ll be in a Burger King drive-thru line (for example) in my work van and I’ll discover a detail of a song I’ve never caught before. That always seems to be how it ends up going for me, but occasionally it’ll be the result of a couple glasses of scotch and several hours of intimate listening etc.
I also wondered if you still have the original he6se v2 headband? are you selling it? Ananda headband is not comfortable for me... thank you very much!!!
Thanks for looking at these I saw tham and was curious about listening to some thoughts about them. Also, if you don't mind me asking, I've tried some various iems but I wanna find an iem that I'm gonna stick with. I'm currently on the thieaudio legacy 3's and I'm either going for the Sony mdr-ex800st or the ex1000 based on my preferences, but I will be eq-ing and modding both in order to satisfy the basshead in me (when required though, as I listen to other varied genres too) for bass centric music. is the ex1000 (with eq and amp) capable of basshead-ing as hard as the ex800st with the tape mod, eq and amp?
I finally received my Hifiman HE400se headphones today. They sound fantastic and very balanced to my ears. I was told to expect them having a lean bass but there is plenty of bass for me. I’m using my xDuoo XD-05 Basic DAC/Amp with a Muses02 op-amp to drive them with no issues. They are well made and according to the online manual the headband is covered in leather. The ear cups have valour lining the insides and the flat that touches the head, not sure if the outside vinyl or leather. I liked the supplied cable as well, nothing fancy but it has a soft silicon feel to it. I was under the impression that the stock cable was sub-standard so that was a nice surprise. I can highly recommend these for anyone looking for a quality headphones that has a limited budget.
Chris Cornell was incredible, I love rare distinct voices like his. I want these headphones, he6se v2, being I never actually jumped at getting the Arya and legit I was going to, and then didn't, but I just gotta find a way to get adoroma to give me that sales price, cuz I'm not ideally paying no $1,799, even tho I'm sure it's solid headphone regardless 😅. Gotta love class A amps tho man, I've been eyeballing the jot2 and the soloist 3x as possible options for a desktop upgrades for cans..But yeah, home theatre is that next step in the hole 😅 it's legit monies but I def wanna do more in the future myself, with something like having the right room and the space for me to have some LRS magnepan's or even just some underrated falcons (acoustics) LS3/5a and paired with a couple of subs; or hey, if I ever got rich, in my dream land maybe, I'd get some Cessaro Wagner's (horn speakers), with a couple of legit delish tube amps 🙃. But nice vid man! 🤘🏼
If you can wait ...sign up for their newsletter or something and they will mail you when it goes on sale. Also some may be on 2nd hand market with mods and folks sometimes are kind or have no idea what they have as they got for $699 and sell for about same
I started this hobby 2018, many headphones(hd800, lcd2, utopia, heddphone) passed by in my collection and I kept going back to He6SE. I currently own only 2 headphones right now, the Raal Sr1a and He6SE(adorama). They complement each other's sound. For me, the logical upgrade would be 1266 phi tc to pair with my SR1a. Until I have the funds to burn, I guess, I will be fine with the He6se for now.
Currently have a Singxer SA-1 for my amp, do you have any other amps to recommend under $2k? (looking for end game amp but also anything under for the right price/performance)
Hey BGGAR, I have a product review suggestion for you! As a fellow autist, I have hypersensitivity to certain sounds. I have been targeted by advertising from Flare Audio for their Calmer product, which apparently reduces frequencies in the 2-8kHz region. They claim to reduce stress. I'd love to hear your thoughts on them, as I'm unconvinced to buy them at present.
I tried out this exact configuration with the grill mod on my Bifrost 2/Jotunheim 2 stack with pop, rock, classical. Compared to my Sundaras they are punchier but they sound muffled and less detailed and are tuned weird. Tried out some different eq and tried putting the sundara pads on. Couldn't get it to sound pleasing to my ears. I absolutely prefer my Sundaras and I'm getting rid of these.
you should check out the album blue mind by Anne Bisson its the best recorded thing I have ever heard, also any well recorded albums to recommend regardless of genre.
they really help make the headphones too. like they're good to begin with but with the grills removed or with these honeycombs for protection its amazing.
I had the he6se 2 years ago @$700, and sold @$900. Sound is great, but the handband and yokes were annoying for me - too much clamping. Probably a good idea to grab any version of he6 @$700 or lower, even just for investment.
I think a person who gets em for $700 should grab, try and wait ..when the stock dries up...and it will. That person can profit OR...turn them into beasts
@@theodorezurla496 seems the noir and celestee both have peaky treble from reviewers (which would be made worse in a closed back). So probably take your time longer deciding.
@@BadGuyGoodAudioReviews These might be end-ish gamers for me. Also the Jotunheim 2, though I’m distracted by thoughts about a Loki Mini+ to discretely improve some of my sets/cans.
Maybe do a utopia vs clear short re-review once again now that you have new amps coming your way? 😁 And I really really hope you change your mind try schiit bifrost 2 dac and do a vs with adi2! ❤️
@@prabinpaudel5572 HE6se + burson Audio Soloist 3x performance ( Main amp) with questyle cma twelve master as preamp ( I know I know its overkill and waaaay too expensive but whatever , lets see what happens . Next friday it will arrive 😃 My gaming headphones are Sennheiser HD 800s and my seccond headphone is the meze empyrean. I sold focal clear with the Cocktail Audio ha500h .
It seems You do not listen and there for do not test with classical music, so your judgement on what is natural and critical quality, is lacking. sorry. rock isnt a measure for nothing. its a very basic low quality information in terms of sonic capabilities.
