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High ROI Real Estate for investing in the Greece Golden Visa 

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@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
🇬🇷 Get in touch with Angelina for Lesvos real estate and the Golden Visa in Greece: thewanderinginvestor.com/services/residency-and-citizenship-by-investment/invest-in-lesbos-real-estate-for-the-greek-golden-visa/
@patrickflynn2542
@patrickflynn2542 10 месяцев назад
Excellent vidéo, thanks for sharing. I was wondering about the famous Greek plumbing. Do you typically install new pipes in these houses? Greek plumbing in old construction is probably the worst I’ve ever experienced.
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor 10 месяцев назад
These renovation prices include new piping yes
@alex-dj9rs
@alex-dj9rs 11 месяцев назад
I saw you mentioned Albania in your video,with all the recent construction projects such as Durres and Vlora marina,do you think there is an investment opportunity there?
@vivredutrading273
@vivredutrading273 4 месяца назад
Hello. Well, at 16:44, when you calculate the Net yield of the first house, you forget to mention the tax on rental, whether it's Airbnb or not, so it is not exactly net yield yet, is it? You have to substact rental tax, which, if I'm correct skyrockets as high as 35% of the gross revenue (as they don't care about your intermediates) above 12 K€ per year. And that puts a big dent in your estimation...
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor 4 месяца назад
I made a point of not discussing Greek taxes becase they depend on the structure you use, and change all the time.
@vivredutrading273
@vivredutrading273 4 месяца назад
@@TheWanderingInvestor Understood. In that case, is there a model allowing to avoid this heavy rental tax? (15% up to 12 K, then 35% above...). Because for an individual, as it is, it drops the yield from 9 to 5%...huge issue on a potentially interesting project.
@knownothingfinance7807
@knownothingfinance7807 5 месяцев назад
how are you managing and trusting the contractors and construction guys over there.
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor 5 месяцев назад
Angelina deals with this
@knownothingfinance7807
@knownothingfinance7807 5 месяцев назад
@@TheWanderingInvestor yeah I mean it’s still a hassle in the Greek island. Generally unreliable work, slow etc. something an American would be shocked by I guess. Same goes for material costs in the smaller islands.
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor 5 месяцев назад
@@knownothingfinance7807 yes. Not easy.
@alphaomegagroupgr
@alphaomegagroupgr 4 месяца назад
When you have a good team everything is possible and timelines always met.
@murathanarslancan
@murathanarslancan Год назад
Thank you very much for the video Ladislas. However as far as I am concerned Lesvos is listed as one of the “border regions” where non-EU citizens are not allowed to buy real estate according to Greek laws. How is it possible to buy a property for golden visa in Lesvos then?
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
Good question. Non-EU can buy, except for turks. You just need military approval which takes 7 months. The lawyer deals with it.
@murathanarslancan
@murathanarslancan Год назад
Thank you for the explanation
@dharakis
@dharakis 2 месяца назад
Ελλαδα Ellada is the original name
@TheOwlsarewatching606
@TheOwlsarewatching606 5 месяцев назад
out of date. Lesvos was a lovely island until the masses of illegal immigrants came ashore. Look at the videos on here that will show you. Truly a disaster
@andreajacksonsmithjacksons2502
@andreajacksonsmithjacksons2502 5 месяцев назад
This is what I’m concerned about it’s not controlled immigration it’s mass immigration to this Island that’s why the prices are low. It’s a problem in a lot of Countries now too many all at once and infrastructure just can’t cope
@kostat5591
@kostat5591 5 месяцев назад
That problem was back in 2015-16. There's hardly anything now.
@JacobVella-mg4db
@JacobVella-mg4db Год назад
Fun video. But Fails to clarify to potential investors consideration of VAT purchase and taxes imposed on short term rentals which are tiered and substantial. 15%~45%. from €0 - €12,000: the tax rate is 15% ● from €12,001 - €35,000: the tax rate is 35%, and ● above €35,001: the tax rate is 45%. All of which make net yields soft. FULL Disclosure is everything my wandering friend but I do like your videos. 🙏🏽
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
I do pre-income tax numbers for all my numbers because taxes change, people can use various structures, deductions, and for people from high tax countries with a double tax treaty agreement with Greece it typically does not matter. Buying costs and taxes are included in the legal and notary fees.
@DJBILINGUAL
@DJBILINGUAL 7 месяцев назад
@@TheWanderingInvestorthis makes sense. I know you believe Albania to be inferior to Greece but if we just take this idea of tax rates could we consider Albania to be a better investment option?
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor 7 месяцев назад
@@DJBILINGUAL prices shot up a lot in Albania in the past 3 years, though less than Montenegro. Prices seem spicy now. Greece has better momentum at this stage. I’d rather pay taxes on making money than paying little taxes on not making much money.
@DJBILINGUAL
@DJBILINGUAL 7 месяцев назад
@@TheWanderingInvestor well said. I had no idea Albania shot up that much. It really feels like everywhere has though. I’m still soooo bitter I missed the boat on Montenegro I low key wanted to move there. Greece might not be a bad alternative though. Albania seems to have good financing options which in my opinion can be huge when trying to squeeze extra juice without having to use your own resources. Have you ever sniffed out Bucharest by chance?
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor 7 месяцев назад
@@DJBILINGUAL things change fast yes. Bucharest is decent. Still pretty cheap in the big scheme of things. I just feel there is more value in Budapest even though it’s a bit more expensive.
@alupolilliandebrah4242
@alupolilliandebrah4242 7 месяцев назад
Hello ...am Lillian from Uganda East Africa.....do African like me also purchase property there and can I also get a golden visa
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor 7 месяцев назад
Yes
@dovygoodguy1296
@dovygoodguy1296 Год назад
Another excellent and creative and informative video, Ladislas. The pros and cons are so clear. What about the risk of social upheaval because of the economic troubles, plus the effective of the migrants?? So many hills and stairs, older folks would have trouble navigating, especially with the cobblestone streets
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
Definitely not a fan of the migrants, but as I said they do not make it to this part of the island. Social upheaval: no more than before. As for the hills and stairs old Europeans deal with them better than old North Americans
@dovygoodguy1296
@dovygoodguy1296 Год назад
@@TheWanderingInvestor Seeing all those stairs and hilly streets reminded me exactly of what we find in the Caribbean. Definitely not to or lots of us, despite the extraordinary beauty of the island. What I was thinking about was the likelihood of general social unrest in Greece because of the economic situation, not to mention risks involving Turkey and Russia versus NATO in general.
@dovygoodguy1296
@dovygoodguy1296 Год назад
@@TheWanderingInvestor By the way, how would Lesbos compare with Caribbean islands in terms of real estate advantages?
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
@@dovygoodguy1296 The worst has already taken place in Greece. From an economic point of view other European countries have more to fall. Greece is essentially a developing country again economically speaking. As for potential conflict with Turkey, it’s a risk for sure. As are earthquakes.
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
@@dovygoodguy1296 you can’t compare the two. Incomparable.
@TheParamike
@TheParamike Год назад
Clear, concise, and to the point. Love your vids.
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
Thank you. Spread the word.
@TheParamike
@TheParamike Год назад
Not spreading the word until I get there and buy :) How long will the deals last over there? I don't want to miss out @@TheWanderingInvestor
@milo23-v4s-z7y
@milo23-v4s-z7y 6 месяцев назад
That’s horrible try it slowly :) Very interesting market although the language for me is hard to learn having few Grec friends, never been able to pick up, like Italien, latin. Beautiful and lovely homes, with golden visa it’s a thinking. Amazing info, thank you for your prof work. UK as a charm 😊 you chg my plans, love it, great team. I will.
@alupolilliandebrah4242
@alupolilliandebrah4242 7 месяцев назад
Can I please have Angelina's contacts so that I can get in touch with her.....I want to relocate to Greece and buy a property there
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor 7 месяцев назад
Here: thewanderinginvestor.com/services/residency-and-citizenship-by-investment/invest-in-lesbos-real-estate-for-the-greek-golden-visa/
@mariototsi5987
@mariototsi5987 8 месяцев назад
The world has no need in Investigation like this, people suffer in time with investions like this. Yes, so this promotion of "golden sales & golden viza's" is gonna skyrocket the housing prizes and rents.
@mjhmn
@mjhmn Год назад
Good to see Angelina expanding her presence!
@BenjaminGolding
@BenjaminGolding Год назад
Dude in Greece there's a 30% tax on AirBnb rentals and starting from 15% on regular ones... I don't see it in the calculation
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
Airbnb is classified as regular rental income. Taxes start from 15%. I don’t discuss income taxes as they change often and ultimately where people reside matters (double tax treaty or not, etc). I do the numbers, net pre income tax
@micomarinas2753
@micomarinas2753 Год назад
if my total investment in a property like your location and including renovation expenses and furniture reached a total a little bit more than €250,000 in a value, can that qualify me to apply for the Greece golden visa?
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
The renovations do not count. However if you buy land and build a villa then the land + construction count towards the €250k
@BenjaminGolding
@BenjaminGolding Год назад
@@TheWanderingInvestor Note that they changed the requirements to 250K for a single property and not many (so you can't apply if you bought many small ones like before)
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
@@BenjaminGolding €500k and a single property in the main areas of Greece and €250k and a few properties in the other areas such as Lesbos
@Izabela_S
@Izabela_S 11 месяцев назад
Hello there! I am very happy to have found this video. I bought a ticket to Lesbos a week ago to do EXACTLY what you show here. My only concern was the lack of connections there. I am grateful for introducing Angelina. I sent her an e-mail provided under the video. I am looking forward to the next steps. Thank you for this video.
@intramotus
@intramotus 10 месяцев назад
hello, I am also very excited to use this model and find a similar property. What has your experience been so far ? Did you hear back from Angelina ? Thanks, Brent in California
@Izabela_S
@Izabela_S 4 месяца назад
@@intramotus Hi, sorry for the late response. We bought a small house and starting the renovation with Angelina.
@leedunning6237
@leedunning6237 3 месяца назад
Amazing. Looking in to doing the same. Any updates?​@@Izabela_S
@AMOSS1970
@AMOSS1970 5 месяцев назад
Great video, thank you. It’s also a little sad because, once all the land is sold it will be a pile of concrete, no more beautiful open green spaces…
@jackierogers566
@jackierogers566 2 месяца назад
What do investors care?
@HowWeLife
@HowWeLife Год назад
Angelina is now in Greece?!? 🫣
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
🇹🇷🇬🇷😅
@LORENA-wq3vm
@LORENA-wq3vm 8 месяцев назад
I’m ready to leave the states now!!!
@Jamminn555
@Jamminn555 Год назад
Wonderful and insightful video about investing in Lesvos Greece. Thank you so much Angelina, Estratos and Ladislas. Benjamin
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
Thank you Benjamin
@micomarinas2753
@micomarinas2753 Год назад
how many ours of travel from turkey to greece thru ferry?
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
1 hour
@micomarinas2753
@micomarinas2753 Год назад
@@TheWanderingInvestor wow so easy to travel👍
@АнтонЕвгеньевич-ы9ц
@АнтонЕвгеньевич-ы9ц 7 месяцев назад
Hello. I think you are too optimistic in your high season income estimates. The real high season is only August, if in August a day costs 175 euros, then in July it is already 160 euros, and in June 150 or even lower.
@CashCatz
@CashCatz Год назад
What are the best islands for sailers in Greece that also have deals that would yield?
@serenitytvofficial
@serenitytvofficial 11 месяцев назад
Amazing islands for sailing ⛵️ are Ioanian islands .. happy to help you on real estate properties 👍
@traveleconomics
@traveleconomics 11 месяцев назад
very nice to see this 25k house yielding almost 10% in Lesbos. If you do some for the renovations on your own and manage it yourself, could be even netting around 20% a year, totally incredible!
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor 11 месяцев назад
Yes. The bigger ticket size is the reno work than the house itself 🙂
@williamchen-eu2rd
@williamchen-eu2rd Год назад
how do you travel from Turkey to Lesbos ?
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
Ferry. There are multiple lines.
@dlukton
@dlukton Год назад
Diamond in the rough. 💎 💎
@MeiyeSong
@MeiyeSong 3 месяца назад
I’m in the terrible place like Frankfurt lol😂 35:15
@MeiyeSong
@MeiyeSong 3 месяца назад
I’m in the terrible place like Frankfurt lol😂
@davidanalyst671
@davidanalyst671 4 месяца назад
The people there sound like fun people, the houses are cheap, and the drinks and food are cheap too!! That looks like a great place.
@rizkisetia6538
@rizkisetia6538 11 месяцев назад
I glad to found this video!! I always dreamed to have investment property in Greek with great cash flow for retirement. Thank you for the info.
@vassilisioannou5488
@vassilisioannou5488 10 месяцев назад
you are very wrong about the PPP the average Greek is not poorer than the average Turk. The average Greek is way richer then an average turk it's just that you believe the fake stats that Erdogan is posting not the real life ones, you should visit the world Bank site to get your info and not site like wiki were anyone can post.
@cagan8
@cagan8 3 месяца назад
Maybe 2017 but avg Turk is definitely poorer than avg Greek forsure
@didembalaban9132
@didembalaban9132 Месяц назад
This is debatable especially after receiving over 10 million non skilled refugees in Turkey. (This dropped the avarage to lower) To be honest, i feel more greek than a turk now after the disaster (thats what I call Erdogan) . Turkey has a lot more potential than Greece in the right hands however at the moment they struggle big deal with all the idiotic economical strategies however I would still say that I think an avarage turk is in the same level with an avarage greek. Greece needs a lot of development and investment on their infrastructure while Turkey has it better. Turkey has better structure especially when it comes to bureaucracy. Everything is computerized and definitely better healthcare. First we need to discuss what sets the standard for poor and rich. Turkey has better life standards when comparing to a greek avarage persons life to avarage turk’s. Most turkish leave their country not because of the life standards they leave because of erdogan and his politics
@OstasHs
@OstasHs 29 дней назад
He is talking nonsense.
@buyfixrentrepeat1270
@buyfixrentrepeat1270 Год назад
Does the golden visa in greece lead to a euro passport?
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
It’s very hard to get a Greek passport. Few foreigners do.
@buyfixrentrepeat1270
@buyfixrentrepeat1270 Год назад
Then what does the golden visa refer to ?@@TheWanderingInvestor
@nicomeer934
@nicomeer934 6 месяцев назад
I have learned so much just by watching your video's. The perfect approach and explanation on how to look at a market as a whole. Not just blindly following what the mass but as a professional protecting and growing your Capital. Such an advisory service would cost a lot of money and you just give it for free. Respect for what you are doing here. And it gives me positive energy when you see how you are doing this with Full Passion and love for your Profession. Thanks so much for sharing and paying it forward, Respect✌👏
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor 6 месяцев назад
Thank you 🙏
@MarkKrupa
@MarkKrupa Год назад
Fascinating. Thanks for the video.
@angelapaloubis4923
@angelapaloubis4923 2 месяца назад
Only a welfare recipient would find this fascinating. It may be affordable for them!
@DJBILINGUAL
@DJBILINGUAL 7 месяцев назад
Mind if I ask what mic you use? Also loved this. Looking at investing in Greece might even move there.
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor 7 месяцев назад
I didn’t use a mic for this one. I messed up 🙈
@ItalianPropertyTours
@ItalianPropertyTours 10 месяцев назад
Regarding the golden visa with this apartment shown, 25,000 euro will get you a golden visa? What does the golden visa give you? We are from Australia with a UK and Italian background.
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor 10 месяцев назад
No. You would need to invest €250k which gives you a golden visa (the right to live in Greece and spend as much time as you want in the Schengen area). If of italiej origin, you should get your italian passport. It would be cheap. Send me an email if you want someone who can help with the paperwork.
@RC94332
@RC94332 11 месяцев назад
She’s fine. Definitely looks like she gets down
@Reizzzzz
@Reizzzzz 10 месяцев назад
This island is close to Turkey so wont qualify for a golden visa i guess?
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor 10 месяцев назад
This island does not work for Turkish citizens seeking a Golden Visa unfortunately. Everyone else, yes.
@kims1912
@kims1912 4 месяца назад
I dont think its 500k on any islands, only Athens, and some other major cities.
@alphaomegagroupgr
@alphaomegagroupgr 4 месяца назад
Prices right now are 250k for Historical properties, 800k for everything else
@DavidS-ox3li
@DavidS-ox3li Год назад
I didn’t quite catch the comment on drinking water or why they were mentioning this to begin with? Also, does the renovation budget include AC and heat?
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
“Vodka” with a ukrainian accent. Not “water” 😉. Yes. The reno budgets include AC and heating.
@DirtyBird506
@DirtyBird506 3 месяца назад
I love this place. I wish I were there.
@user-janeausten
@user-janeausten 2 месяца назад
These People??...hmmm
@ajcapitano2425
@ajcapitano2425 Год назад
Hi .. may I ask you what is included in notary and legal fees to be that high 12800 ?!
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
Government taxes such as stamp duty
@ajcapitano2425
@ajcapitano2425 Год назад
@@TheWanderingInvestor ok thanks
@ajcapitano2425
@ajcapitano2425 Год назад
However , with such total price , you can get in new building appartment with UAE eagle hills project in Durres with 3 billion dollar project .. buildings with swimming pools and gym and complete new area will be built on beach ..
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
@@ajcapitano2425 have you been to Durres? It’s disgusting.
@ajcapitano2425
@ajcapitano2425 Год назад
@@TheWanderingInvestor I been 3 times .. this project will changed it same what they did in Belgrade waterfront as changed properties prices in Belgrade too
@shariffzamani-rl8tx
@shariffzamani-rl8tx 10 месяцев назад
Good job guys I loved to have a small place there.
@jgm3620
@jgm3620 Год назад
Beautifull video and great houses
@sylvestersoong5778
@sylvestersoong5778 Год назад
250K is it inclusive of renovation cost?
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
No. But you can buy land and build villa. That’s included. Building and land. But not renovations.
@Tropical_Amor
@Tropical_Amor 6 месяцев назад
I feel like I wasted 5 minutes of mylife , not getting to the point, but I would not recommend anyone to buy property to Greece, there are very clever and you may end up buying a building scheduled for demolition
@tiusernamenabalw
@tiusernamenabalw 3 месяца назад
Part of the standard process is lawyer due diligence, so if this truly happened to anyone I guess they were not meant to have money in any country in the world…
@erdemulubas
@erdemulubas Год назад
Im not really optimistic about finding decent and disciplined workers on that island to renovate the property I think I would go crazy 😅
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor Год назад
Let Angelina deal with this 😉. On a more serious note I saw some finished renovation jobs. Great quality 👍
@jgm3620
@jgm3620 Год назад
Great video and very instructive case study. Thank you for your good work and honest approach
@davegordon6233
@davegordon6233 4 месяца назад
I liked your video. Will not touch any EU country's real estate because of their socialist mentality.
@Vickersrealestate
@Vickersrealestate 11 месяцев назад
What about the 90 days max per year of air bnb allowance in greece?
@TheWanderingInvestor
@TheWanderingInvestor 11 месяцев назад
Not on this island
@RC94332
@RC94332 11 месяцев назад
2:19 that’s a selling point…
@lackerbitandersson6241
@lackerbitandersson6241 Месяц назад
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