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High school ref cheats, a breakdown 

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@gefiltefish6704
@gefiltefish6704 Год назад
I was hoping you'd cover this. "That ref cheated." Perfect way to sum up the whole situation.
@Joe_Okey
@Joe_Okey Год назад
Interestingly, it looks like from where the chains originally were, that he had gotten the first down anyway.
@DragonBank
@DragonBank Год назад
​@@Joe_Okey The second chain was not stretched out on the side line. It had a good yard or more of slack.
@Joe_Okey
@Joe_Okey Год назад
@@DragonBank I noticed that, too late.
@moedark4390
@moedark4390 Год назад
holy cow, when i saw the video angle i was thinking who are you to call someone a cheater with that terrible angle and then wooahh !
@lemonator8813
@lemonator8813 Год назад
900th like
@MrSpeedyAce
@MrSpeedyAce Год назад
Ref’s worst nightmare is making it onto a Jomboy video
@Tommy9834
@Tommy9834 Год назад
There was one ref, well, umpire, that made it on a Jomboy video for being really good once.
@MrSpeedyAce
@MrSpeedyAce Год назад
@@Tommy9834 I think it was an umpire with like 99% accurate calls???
@Tommy9834
@Tommy9834 Год назад
@@MrSpeedyAce yep
@cable7152
@cable7152 Год назад
His career is done
@MrSpeedyAce
@MrSpeedyAce Год назад
@@gl22222 Damn man lol That sounds intense! I've witnessed an amateur league softball game turn into a circus because of the ump's bad call. He literally b-lined to his car once he called the final out and had a bunch of players chasing after him.
@dennisdavis6105
@dennisdavis6105 Год назад
i still love that refs eyeball place the ball every play and then have to act super precise with the chains, so wild
@lucasng4712
@lucasng4712 Год назад
That way there's only one point of arbitration in the marking of first downs. It's quite genius actually
@soulknife20
@soulknife20 Год назад
Someone on an NFL broadcast said "Why don't they just put a microchip for GPS in the football?"
@Kanders190
@Kanders190 Год назад
@@soulknife20 Yup. Soccer leagues have this everywhere. NFL and NHL could benefit it from it greatly.
@JayD73
@JayD73 Год назад
@@Kanders190 but for football it’s not just where the ball is, it’s where the ball is when your knee or another body part touches down. I don’t really see how a chip would help with that you still need a ref to determine when the player is down
@MateusHokari
@MateusHokari Год назад
@@JayD73 The "VAR" technology for offside calls in soccer is getting very precise. It is interesting to see how much technology can be used to determine the player position at a specific point in time
@mattlovelltv3794
@mattlovelltv3794 Год назад
The 2nd ref pausing after realizing what happened is hilarious 😂
@Crusader7077
@Crusader7077 Год назад
This reminds me of the old Subway commercial with the referee that announces over the PA system, "I totally blew that call. In fact, it wasn't even close."
@lethalfang
@lethalfang 8 месяцев назад
"But don't worry. I will penalize the other team in the 2nd half for no reason just to even things out."
@Rafikichu
@Rafikichu Год назад
Those Vineland highschoolers handled that situation waaay better than I would have, and I'm a grown ass adult. Mad respect.
@annseger9519
@annseger9519 Год назад
It's more than a game, it's a lesson in life.
@jeremysmith9694
@jeremysmith9694 Год назад
Kids are way more mature than adults fyi
@clarencethomas01
@clarencethomas01 Год назад
If you play sports you know there are refs who are cheating douchebags sometimes, you still don't want him on your bad side. Vineland got their make-up calls, it was an exciting finish, AND they won! Really this ref should be promoted, i hope he joins professional soccer lol they could use more refs like him ⚽
@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist3
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@paulpinball9952
@paulpinball9952 Год назад
@@clarencethomas01 : He's NFL-ready on Day One.
@ProblemsHypest
@ProblemsHypest Год назад
Got a relative who is a ref, and he's told me that high school officials are generally taught to move the ball to the closest hash mark, forward or backward depending on where it's spotted, to avoid headaches with the chain gang on the next set of downs. However, they're explicitly told not to do this when a first down conversion is in play AND they're definitely not allowed to manipulate the yard markers at all. Bad look by this crew.
@Falcon4224
@Falcon4224 Год назад
Also, when the ball is around the 10 yard marker on a first down play, most umpires will move the ball either half a yard past or behind that yard line so that it's not ambiguous as to whether or not it should be 1st and Goal or 1st and 10. You don't want to be doing first down measurements on the goal line, too much headache. But yeah, we're all told only to match the ball with a yard marker on plays that start a new series of downs, just to make measuring easier. And that's definitely not the responsibility of the white hat to mark the ball, the umpire and LOS officials do that. White hat is only supposed to eyeball the spot on measurements, never touch. And they should have had another official hold the ball down during that measurement to prevent the ball from moving. Would have probably prevented this entire thing from happening.
@Rickstar740
@Rickstar740 Год назад
you’re absolutely correct, i wouldn’t say we’re “taught” to do this more of like a… unwritten rule lol. But definitely during a close game winding down, 4th down, or inside the 10 we give a true spot.
@jaysnow701
@jaysnow701 Год назад
It makes sense, and is pretty insignificant after a 1st down between the 5yd lines.
@stephenr4185
@stephenr4185 Год назад
NFL officials will always spot the ball right on a yard marker. Especially after punts and first downs.
@humptydumpty1575
@humptydumpty1575 Год назад
Thanks for the long version of..... The Ref Cheated.
@breyes3136
@breyes3136 Год назад
As a parent of a first time football player who is a senior in HS, this is heartbreaking to see for the kids! They give their all to have someone blatantly and intentionally do that type of crap. Especially as an Adult REF! Complete BS. Yes, it's great the children handled it well, which makes my heart hurt even more!!
@dighsx
@dighsx Год назад
We got a ref in my town that is so "large" he can't bend over and pick up the ball. He's constantly getting run over by plays and since he can't pick up the ball he just kicks it to where he thinks the ball should be. Everyone is gaining and loosing yardage cuz he can't do the job right. They call him hot dog cuz there's been a number of times he was eating while on the field.
@rileyesmay
@rileyesmay Год назад
Sometimes with that you just deal with it and it can be funny because it's going both ways. With this it was clearly against the one team so it kinda sucked. I umpire baseball and it's sometimes just hillarious watching a fellow umpire screw up so bad for both teams
@dighsx
@dighsx Год назад
@@rileyesmay We generally just laugh about it. But sometimes it's gets kinda annoying. Esp when you see a ref eating a hot dog while on the field... during a play. Gotta love small town high school football. hahaha
@CaptainRon1913
@CaptainRon1913 Год назад
cuz, cuz
@detectivejimmymcnulty1676
@detectivejimmymcnulty1676 Год назад
You’re full of it
@AW-je8do
@AW-je8do Год назад
I would love to see video of this guy. It would be hilarious...
@franciscocruz5860
@franciscocruz5860 Год назад
I play for Wildwood and had that ref for like 2 of our games last month. Our whole home crowd hated him because of missed calls and misplaced balls throughout both games. I didn't like his calls at all but whenever I talked to him he was always coordial. I would have never guesses he would blatantly cheat like that though. Me and my teammate would always complement his beard🤣
@B3Band
@B3Band Год назад
Moving the ball is normal on most plays. In high school ball they're told to move the ball to the closest yard line to avoid headaches later on with moving the chains. Never on 4th down though. Measure first, and if they made the first down, then move the ball to the nearest line (which would always be backwards to the actual stick if they had been rounding to the nearest yard line previously). If they didn't make it, turnover, and then move the ball to the nearest yard line.
@Rayzajw
@Rayzajw Год назад
He has a great beard
@codemcloud6073
@codemcloud6073 Год назад
Yeah he was trying to be nice so his cheating would go less noticed.
@MPHswayze
@MPHswayze Год назад
"complement the beard" Gen Z has like a 2% success rate with compliment/complement
@c.a.r.n.a.g.e4288
@c.a.r.n.a.g.e4288 Год назад
Wildwood high?
@alexandercranberry3323
@alexandercranberry3323 Год назад
Bro this makes me so happy just to see teams from Jersey actually being on Jomboy
@cardinalRG
@cardinalRG Год назад
I ran a chain gang for many years, and can attest that it’s not unheard of to adjust the chain after it’s initially pulled-for example, if the clip is first placed on the wrong side of the line, or if the chain itself is kinked, or if someone's foot is in the way. But I never saw an official *_re-spot_* the ball like the one in the video did. Wow.
@ZodzillaPrime
@ZodzillaPrime Год назад
I don't think he does, it's the shape of the ball and our angle. He just rolls it so it touches
@noahdecoteau6381
@noahdecoteau6381 Год назад
Every time someone says "the ref cheated" they're just complaining about a questionable call. Not anymore because this... well this is cheating
@jamesmartin4518
@jamesmartin4518 Год назад
I'll put an end to this real quick. The official did nothing wrong. This zoomed in version doesn't give the full history of this set of downs. I'll post a link to the full game with a timestamp. If anything maybe the umpire was at fault for aggressively stretching the chains, or the chains weren't checked properly pregame. You can clearly see it is 1st and 10 from the 22. We always put the ball on a tic mark to start a new set of downs, unless inside the 10 or 15 yd line. Where they place the ball on 4th down is clearly on the 12 yd line. This would result in a 1st down. The stretching of the chains is where the problem starts. The white hat knows they started on the 22 and he also knows that a 1st down is at the 12. He sees that the stretch pulled the 1st down marker way past where it should have been, so he fixed that issue. Then he rolled the ball to meet the chains, not forward, but sideways, the angle doesn't help at all Here is the full video. Start at 1:59:00 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1YHdZ5oAhDc.html
@noahdecoteau6381
@noahdecoteau6381 Год назад
@@jamesmartin4518 In the link the you included it looks like the center of the ball is spotted at the 22 yard line to start the down meaning the tip of the ball (and the chain) is just inside the 22 yard line. When the chain is pulled, it should end up just inside the 12 yard line and not directly on the 12 yard line. When the ball is spotted after the 4th down play, the tip is on the 12 yard line and not the center, meaning it's short of the first down. I can see that the ball was rolled sideways and not moved forward but the ref shouldn't have moved the chain back
@jamesmartin4518
@jamesmartin4518 Год назад
@Noah Decoteau If these guys were trained as my crew and I were then in HS the front of the ball is placed on the back edge of the hash mark. From this angle no one can be for certain, but from my knowledge of how most officials spot the ball at this level, I'm comfortable saying that it started on the back edge and after 4th, should have been a 1st down. Personally, if I was the white hat, knowing where the 1st down was and going over and seeing where my Head Linesman spotted then ball, I would've signaled 1st down and not measured. Maybe the coach requested it, but I doubt it given how quickly they did it.
@DG-sj7hz
@DG-sj7hz Год назад
@@jamesmartin4518 Hey, I found the ref in the video.
@jamesmartin4518
@jamesmartin4518 Год назад
@D G You got me!!! 😆 🤣 😂 I just don't like people going after officials without researching the facts. If you weren't biased you could watch what I presented and see what I said is true. There is no denying the ball started on the 22 and ended on the 12. Unless math has changed that is 10 yards. I understand what it looks like. We had a chain crew this year that was off by a half yard. It was a JV game so I didn't think much of it. We started on the 15, 1st down was at the 5. 4th and 8 to go and they were downed right on the 5. Is it a 1st down? Or not? I signaled 1st because I knew the chains were incorrect. I explained to the coach, he said I'll look at the video, he did and told me I was right. Point here is I will never let a play happen if the chains are not I the correct spot, regardless of the age group.
@jakemcintyre6558
@jakemcintyre6558 Год назад
That is hilarious. I guess the ref took the “If you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying” mindset to heart 🤣
@t_ylr
@t_ylr Год назад
2:39 I really wanna know what the ref in the black hat was thinking lmao
@xavierfigueroa7949
@xavierfigueroa7949 Год назад
exactly, he looks shook
@catchmyscoober
@catchmyscoober Год назад
"Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhh. Okay then"
@Unknown-pc9qj
@Unknown-pc9qj Год назад
Ah shoot. Not again.
@CaptainRon1913
@CaptainRon1913 Год назад
No need to repeat what Jomboy said. We all heard it
@tinaleanne8230
@tinaleanne8230 Год назад
That is a "OK . . . Ummmmm . . . that just happened . . . . is there a hole I can crawl into and hide? Maybe if I don't look up no one will see me"
@ButNustin
@ButNustin Год назад
I've played against both of these teams in high school and had that same crew and I can confidnetly say the refs do this all the time. NJ high school refs are notoriously bad and I'm glad it's finally being shown
@GhostdogLT21
@GhostdogLT21 Год назад
MY DAD WAS A HIGH SCHOOL NJ FOOTBALL REF AND I CAN TELL YOU THIS IS ACCURATE. Although he'd argue until his grave they are good at their jobs...
@LeoMajor1
@LeoMajor1 Год назад
Get your truth out there!
@nickoftime602
@nickoftime602 Год назад
S/O to 55 though. Flawless technique, even broke through a double team that wasn't there lol Edit: looked this up and the referee crew was essentially suspended with a formal review forthcoming, i.e. they're gonna get fired in all likelihood
@JM_Solo
@JM_Solo Год назад
Hopefully the poor stupefied line judge keeps his job
@davidroman1654
@davidroman1654 Год назад
@@JM_Solo Why? He allowed it to happen and knew full well it was wrong. When ANY official makes a mistake (no a mistake here just cheating) it is the responsibility of the other officials to correct it. The entire crew is guilty because all have a job to do during a measurement. So they all should suffer the same faith.
@nickoftime602
@nickoftime602 Год назад
@@davidroman1654 The guy with the beard who was the main culprit is the crew chief. He has the final say on calls so the other referees can only HIGHLY recommend corrections. But if the CC says first down then thats what the others have to go by
@davidroman1654
@davidroman1654 Год назад
@@nickoftime602 You are correct that the WH has the final say. But the other officials can come together to discuss the situation. They did not do their job. I was a HS official for several years and had to stand my ground to make sure we had the correct call. They didn't
@lahuntaa
@lahuntaa Год назад
@@davidroman1654 nah they can’t do anything it’s futile. But I think he threw the flag to give them a better chance because they got screwed by WH.
@129spitfire
@129spitfire Год назад
Other refs reaction is the best lol. He’s like “....alright we doing this tonight” 😂
@danielbates9674
@danielbates9674 7 месяцев назад
We had a ref in a high school game that was constantly throwing flags when there wasn't even a penalty. We took him out on the second half kickoff, he left on a stretcher.
@crispinfornoff206
@crispinfornoff206 2 месяца назад
That ref should be in jail. That was truly disgusting and an affront to all sports.
@AbbreviatedReviews
@AbbreviatedReviews Год назад
White hat is the head honcho in Refereetown, so he gets to make the definitive calls on first down. But that usually doesn't include arbitrarily resetting the chains and spotting the ball after it was spotted.
@jamesmartin4518
@jamesmartin4518 Год назад
He did neither. That series started on the 22. 1st down is at the 12. It was clearly on the 12. Whether there was a chain issue or the umpire pulled it a little too hard, I don't know. The white hat knew it was a 1st down, as anyone should that was watching the whole game, not just this small selection of it. I'm really frustrated that everyone is blasting these guys when most people here probably have no idea what actually happens during a game from the refs side.
@jimdiroffii
@jimdiroffii Год назад
All refs should know by now that Jomboy is always watching.
@ReeseDavidson
@ReeseDavidson Год назад
Jomboy song lyrics: Every play you make And every rule you break Every spot you fake Every out you stake I’ll be watching you
@SuperNuclearUnicorn
@SuperNuclearUnicorn Год назад
I'm watching you, Wazowski. Allllways watching. Always
@jimmcmonagle2360
@jimmcmonagle2360 Год назад
we should bring some homemade signs to the games..."Jomboy is watching you"
@ReeseDavidson
@ReeseDavidson Год назад
@@jimmcmonagle2360 count me in!
@Boppinabe
@Boppinabe Год назад
The ref didn't cheat, he secured the first down to fortify the game and prevent the wrong outcome.
@jfast8256
@jfast8256 Год назад
Lol, fortify the game. Yep, sounds right.
@letsgobrandon6281
@letsgobrandon6281 Год назад
What? He moved the ball forward and the chains backwards. Wtf
@KevinSorbo.
@KevinSorbo. Год назад
@@letsgobrandon6281 ensuring good wins over evil today
@BlackBirdAter
@BlackBirdAter Год назад
Funny is it still didn't secure the win and the entire crew was under investigation after the incident, and regardless of the investigation outcome, was no longer allowed to officiate an playoff games... I feel bad for the other refs because it was only the one ref who should be under investigation. It was clear to everyone else on that crew, he did sometime sketchy. I hope they all threw him under the bus
@Boppinabe
@Boppinabe Год назад
@@BlackBirdAter He'll just have to do better next time. We can't leave the outcomes of important games to chance.
@jimshorts5970
@jimshorts5970 Год назад
That’s unbelievable. Hopefully that ref got fired.
@electrostatic1
@electrostatic1 Год назад
Probably got recruited by the NFL
@codywarhawk7099
@codywarhawk7099 Год назад
@@electrostatic1 more like recruited by the Pac12 Conference.
@trevorromano2231
@trevorromano2231 Год назад
This was in Jersey? If they’re betting on HS football anywhere , it’s NJ.
@bvd7517
@bvd7517 Год назад
Texas would like a word.
@ono3869
@ono3869 Год назад
Nevada just joined the chat.
@chaosknight73
@chaosknight73 Год назад
not so much. fight after the game maybe, but not bet on the game.
@MrZachtheKingsfan
@MrZachtheKingsfan Год назад
If Jomboy hadn’t mentioned this was Jersey, I think the Devils pants would have been a clear giveaway lol
@thejeffwest
@thejeffwest Год назад
@@MrZachtheKingsfan This game takes place in South Jersey, which is Flyers country. Eastern HS is in Voorhees, NJ, which is where the Flyers practice facility is. Very few Devils fans south of Rt. 195.
@PcCAvioN
@PcCAvioN Год назад
Thanks Jomdaddy
@HarbingerOfRespite
@HarbingerOfRespite Год назад
I love the ref holding the chain, pausing and looking at where the ball was moved to, and just staying there, dumbstruck, and suddenly snap out of it. Might've been the best part.
@Makise3
@Makise3 Год назад
Referees are an absolute joke in this day and age and I wish someone would come up with a replacement for all of them.
@TripHop-
@TripHop- Год назад
Jeez at least be less obvious about it like NFL refs
@MrRtkwe
@MrRtkwe Год назад
They at least know to fudge the spot before they bring the chains out.
@obie5357
@obie5357 Год назад
Refball strikes again
@chasestankievech
@chasestankievech Год назад
Who let David letterman ref a football game anyway?
@freshpack8928
@freshpack8928 Год назад
Couldn’t imagine reffing a high school game and being called out as a cheater on jomboy? The referee shouldn’t be allowed to ref a pickup game on my front yard.
@andrewellington9503
@andrewellington9503 Год назад
This is depressing and infuriating, especially with it happening to high school kids. This is why refs should not be afraid of calling out a blatantly terrible calls. The ref holding the marker knew that wasn't a first down. You can call a huddle to call out the error quietly and discreetly but when it's something this obvious, one of the other refs HAS to at least say something.
@RyanEglitis
@RyanEglitis Год назад
FYI, that's the 12 yard line. The 10's always have a full line across the field. And 56 definitely held - you can tell because of how he's behind the guy but still slowing the guy down.
@bri-guy1778
@bri-guy1778 Год назад
I agree on both counts. Surprised JomBoy called that the 11
@gregorykadok3356
@gregorykadok3356 Год назад
I went to Vineland High School. Nice to see Jomboy expose the cheat even at the high school level.
@Verlisify
@Verlisify Год назад
The ref in the white hat is definitely having problems at home
@matthewvincent4818
@matthewvincent4818 8 месяцев назад
Playing high school baseball, I once had an umpire call a strike on me that literally bounced a foot in front of the plate. I turned and looked at him and he just looked me in the eye and said, "Just turn around and hit." Struck out swinging at another pitch out of the zone but there was clearly no choice other than to swing at anything. Shenanigans in high school level officiating are an unfortunate reality.
@stovemakesmoves6617
@stovemakesmoves6617 Год назад
from Vineland. Crazy to see this get so big it ended up getting a jomboy video
@ricksmith2127
@ricksmith2127 Год назад
I demand a full investigation
@SgvSth
@SgvSth Год назад
"NJSIAA has reviewed the video of the Vineland versus Eastern state playoff football game and, in agreement with the New Jersey Football Officials Association, has determined that the entire officiating crew - pending a hearing next week with the South Chapter of the New Jersey Football Officials Association - will not be assigned future postseason games." So there is an investigation.
@grondhero
@grondhero Год назад
Thanks for *demanding* it. Without your comment, there would have been no investigation!
@joewlaschin6970
@joewlaschin6970 Год назад
I really enjoy your content MORE JOMBOY.Always great stuff Thank you Jomboy
@Galliao
@Galliao Год назад
Skinny Santa can't be trusted. This is why Fat Santa is in-charge of Christmas.
@DarthJJ
@DarthJJ Год назад
Are we not going to talk about his straight Wizard beard?! Ol' Gandalf making magic with that spot
@DrZaius3141
@DrZaius3141 Год назад
I initially thought he might be wearing a face mask, but then it dawned that being responsible wouldn't quite fit the overall vibe there.
@TimeNap
@TimeNap Год назад
He maybe got to the 13 but definitely was short of the 12. The placement at the 11 yard line is insane.
@timmyj55
@timmyj55 Год назад
They marked it at the 12, jomboy is wrong
@TimeNap
@TimeNap Год назад
@@timmyj55 Jomboy is usually so accurate that Ill watch something and doubt my eyes. You right though,
@busterellis7188
@busterellis7188 Год назад
Thats blatant cheating!!! He should never be allowed to ref any football game ever again. I would love to hear his excuse. And it was clear that the holding call on 56 was a makeup call for sure.
@terryprater8115
@terryprater8115 Год назад
I absolutely hate high school refs. My grandson plays for a small school in Missouri. This year's games have been mired by so many bad calls and non-calls that I wouldn't even know where to begin. Whenever these young men are vying for college scholarships and the teams are competing for state championships, a couple of bad calls in a game can be very detrimental to their rewards. And there is no accountability whatsoever among these officials. I was told that there is a shortage of officials in Missouri, so they are hiring practically anyone who is capable of throwing a small handkerchief to the ground. Also, bias against or for one team or another is rampant. I think that if their paychecks were more lucrative, there might be a better caliber of refs taking the field. It's really sad.
@agent6599
@agent6599 Год назад
Could you cover the 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix sometime? Would be interested in hearing your analysis and perspective
@MrDuneedon
@MrDuneedon Год назад
LOL...I'm not sure that Jomboy has the requisite F1 knowledge to be able to adequately cover that. (Even people WITH the requisite knowledge were stumped, though, in fairness LOL)
@agent6599
@agent6599 Год назад
@@MrDuneedon haha very true. But then again, I think it’d be interesting to hear the perspective from someone who doesn’t know a lot about the sport (so therefore no bias) and just reads the rules and watches the situation
@MrDuneedon
@MrDuneedon Год назад
@@agent6599 I absolutely agree!
@agent6599
@agent6599 Год назад
@@MrDuneedon cheers dude!
@JW-rn6qf
@JW-rn6qf Год назад
In little league my uncle called me safe while stealing third while I was clearly out... when the tag was applied I knew I was out, and was about to walk to the dugout, I heard SAFE!! Thanks uncle Jim
@hamborgor6510
@hamborgor6510 Год назад
Things like this give people a false sense of confidence where kids playing fairly or at a disadvantage will never shine
@darkwood777
@darkwood777 Год назад
And it still weighs on your mind to this day.
@Austin.Kilgore
@Austin.Kilgore Год назад
0:00 Look how big of an absolutely massive unit that 76 is lol
@primeministersinister625
@primeministersinister625 Год назад
I know 2 bigger and better 76s
@darksu6947
@darksu6947 Год назад
@@primeministersinister625 I know 3
@primeministersinister625
@primeministersinister625 Год назад
@@darksu6947 I got john and joe alt, whos yours?
@SIXPACFISH
@SIXPACFISH Год назад
I've seen Highschool umps stretch the flag as far as possible and then tilt the flag away from the ball at a 45 degree angle to deny a 1st down. This was at Friendship Christian in Lebanon TN.
@MewtwoStruckBack
@MewtwoStruckBack Год назад
If a school identifies with religion I automatically assume they are rotten to the core
@SIXPACFISH
@SIXPACFISH Год назад
@@MewtwoStruckBack I have found the private church schools to be the worst cheaters around. I guess cheating pleases GOD, or something?
@thomas1630
@thomas1630 Год назад
still not worse than this one.
@blakebillingsley4711
@blakebillingsley4711 Год назад
I'm a high school football official in Kentucky. I have so many questions. The referee should never be touching the ball on a measurement. His job is to simply observe the measurement and make the call on what it is. The back judge or another official should be holding the ball to make sure it doesn't move on the measurement after the spot is determined. The referee certainly shouldn't be touching the measurement stake either. Hence why the umpire is so bamboozled by what's going on. The only thing I can figure is that the white cap didn't like the wing official's spot so he took it upon himself to correct it. Or maybe something else is going on behind the scenes that we missed here. Even if you are going to change the spot (which a white cap should NEVER do, because its not his responsibility), then why the hell would you wait until the measurement is going on which is clearly in view for TV cameras and both teams right on top of you. Blatant cheating or total incompetence, one or the other.
@hpblack1953
@hpblack1953 Год назад
What the hell is Santa doing refereeing a football game? Christmas around the corner. Got our eyes on you happy boy.
@Rufus6540
@Rufus6540 Год назад
As a former HS basketball official, and from my perspective, post-season assignments are what you work the entire off-season and regular season to do. Yes, regular season games with a competitive schedule and good schools are important and nothing to be sneezed at, but post-season is where it's at (and I can say this having never gotten a post-season assignment - not the reason I hung up my whistle btw). Them being banned from post-season is a big deal IOW.
@pummer
@pummer Год назад
The fact that this ref is going to be allowed to continue to officiate reg season games is absurd... like are you saying the reg season doesnt matter?
@stealthstrike02
@stealthstrike02 Год назад
@@pummer It's more likely the ref pool is too shallow to kick them out completely. You can use your best for the playoffs because there's less games to cover than in the regular season.
@Rufus6540
@Rufus6540 Год назад
@@pummer Not at all, just a response to Jomboy's question if officials view post-season assignments as something valuable.
@Joeely618
@Joeely618 Год назад
Totally true, Kevin...as a former baseball umpire and soccer referee, the post-season assignments were everything. That's the biggest penalty to throw at them.
@rickpickle2882
@rickpickle2882 Год назад
this reminds me how during one of my games it was 4th quarter and like 20 seconds left on the clock and it was a field goal and it went in and the refs just ended up ruling it off and saying not good because, and i quote, “we weren’t ready.” For the entire game they also were calling us for holding and even had one of our touchdowns revoked and it was a 40 yard touchdown too.
@kencornia3333
@kencornia3333 Год назад
What a bewildering & shameful display by a ref during a high school football game, whose placement of the ball was far from integrity. I was glad to see Vineland come back and score a touchdown to win the game a second time.
@willmcclard206
@willmcclard206 Год назад
he could not have been more obvious 😭
@ivormctin6367
@ivormctin6367 Год назад
That was a really good play with the little running back hiding. Great play design by the coach and great execution by the players (except for the fumble)
@clarkeugene5727
@clarkeugene5727 Год назад
It was a well designed play. They must have practiced it often because it came off as planned. (Except for the fumble) of course.
@aw11man26
@aw11man26 Год назад
Imagine that, corruption in New Jersey. Who could have ever seen that
@jamesp1289
@jamesp1289 Год назад
I mean it is a democrat run state.
@HalferLandPerformance
@HalferLandPerformance Год назад
I was like "wow this guy sounds a lot like JomBoy" not even realizing my feed automatically went into his video 😂🤦
@ginger_nosoul
@ginger_nosoul Год назад
Good on those guys for holding it together. In my youth id probably be getting a free ride to a hotel with bars 🤣
@TylerFunke
@TylerFunke Год назад
LOL the announcer's reaction is hilarious
@Matthew.Werfel
@Matthew.Werfel Год назад
We need more football breakdowns
@Cybeldar
@Cybeldar Год назад
Ref holding the chain knew. You could see him processing what he just saw.
@dansanger5340
@dansanger5340 Год назад
The ref was Santa Claus giving gifts to schoolchildren.
@jacobbullinger6858
@jacobbullinger6858 Год назад
This is top notch journalism. I love that you cover stuff like this. And disc golf. And cricket. And major sports lol
@prismatic9804
@prismatic9804 Год назад
Reminds me when my winless team was up against a team that dropped out of the playoffs to avoid playing Valor (CMC's high school). Teams that don't make playoffs get one last game, which was this game. We were actually winning. Fairly nicely. Momentum was enormous for us. Until our DE DEMOLISHED their QB running and option read. He got lit up passing back to the tailing runner and we got flagged for roughing the passer... On a running play. Couple other questionable calls would happen that game and we ended up losing by like, 10 due to some bad calls at critical stops
@yourbigheadcousin5434
@yourbigheadcousin5434 8 месяцев назад
Even the holding call was horrible.
@chrisw6164
@chrisw6164 Год назад
Old man ref graduated from that school in 1906.
@Bunslightyear
@Bunslightyear Год назад
The ref waiting and not saying anything was hilarious
@Mark-ru7kc
@Mark-ru7kc Год назад
You see the problem is that ref is used to using the metric system because he grew up in Canada and then the conversion from yards to meters to yards and then it was short of 10 meters but yards are shorter than meters and then the first down.
@sgsellsit
@sgsellsit 11 месяцев назад
This just happened in Alabama. Two locals teams were competing for region championship. Both teams were undefeated. The home team by comparison was dominant but closely matched. The visiting team never got even a measurement but always had a first down. On the one time they did measure it was 2 chainlinks short but it was given to them. Each time the home team got close, the sticks came out, even if it was a clear first down. The booth camera operator actually zoomed in on the ball on the last possession in the game for the home team. The ball was clearly even with the stick. The ref signaled short and the stadium erupted as it had been caught live. This was on top of no holding calls against the visiting team, two touchdowns called back for no apparent reason, a clear fumble recovery that was called down, each touchdown the opposing team scored was by way of penalties and blatant, on camera holding that was never called, late hits, roughing the passer and facemasks never called on them and so many phantom calls on the home team it was ridiculous. The icing on the cake was the laser being shined in the qb's, rb's and receiver's eyes from the opposing side. When the players went to address it, they were given an unsportsmanlike. All that and the other team only won by six with their twenty points being given to them by the refs and taking away 12 points from our boys. Sad that grown men have to step in and fix the game and ruin a season for kids that worked so hard.
@rickhurt7007
@rickhurt7007 Год назад
Hey Jomboy, check out where the other post is at after the last first down. The guy on the 22.5 yard line doesn’t even bother holding the post the last play or two so when they stretch the chain he just picks a new spot for the post. Bad ref but the crew holding the sticks created that issue.
@Falcon4224
@Falcon4224 Год назад
They're supposed to have a marker connected to the chains on a 5-yard line that acts as a reference point for measurements and to keep the spot. If they had one down like they should have, then the location of the back post doesn't matter past the initial spotting of that marker on a new series of downs. If the chains get dropped (I haven't seen the other video you're talking about, but we train people to do that if they feel they are in danger, so it's not necessarily a mistake), then they're reset using that marker. If a measurement starts, the chain is pulled taut with someone holding that marker to act as an anchor, not the back post. Only time something like that would be an issue is if, for some reason, the chains get dropped and they don't use that marker as a reference for setting them back up, then a first down is called on that improper spot without using a measurement. That didn't happen in this case.
@rickhurt7007
@rickhurt7007 Год назад
The end of that game was screwed up in many ways. I’ve never seen shit like that before. Lol
@triangle1332
@triangle1332 Год назад
@@Falcon4224 So do you think it was cheating or the correct call but just bad optics?? Or what's the verdict?? You seem like one of the only people who actually knows what they're talking about here. And im curious lol
@Falcon4224
@Falcon4224 Год назад
​@@triangle1332 Without context, if it was just moving the chains, I could see it being considered an innocent, but very bad looking, attempt at fixing the chains (realistically, someone should have been anchoring at that 5-yard mark to prevent something like that from happening. A full wide view of the entire chains would be helpful to see exactly what was going on). But changing the spot of the ball? No way in hell there's a reason to do that. It's not the white hat's job to spot the ball, they're not to touch the ball during a measurement. I hesitate to call it "cheating", though I understand why people would call it that. But it's definitely a huge breach in procedure that unfairly impacted the result of the game and gave one team a clear advantage they shouldn't have had.
@mikevisby8744
@mikevisby8744 8 месяцев назад
Question is, where is the coach in all of this? My high school wrestling coach lost his shit every time officials made a bad call.
@gkatcher
@gkatcher Год назад
That guy should NEVER OFFICIATE ANYTHING EVER AGAIN!!!! Worst cheating that I've ever seen.
@loganlm10
@loganlm10 Год назад
We had a touchdown one time in highschool because our quarterback threw the ball and hit the back of a players foot who was looking downfield. Someone else caught it and ran it for a touchdown but because the ref thought we “planned” it. We got the touchdown taken away
@tupacalypse88
@tupacalypse88 Год назад
😂😂😂😂😂 is that even a rule?? wtf u planned it gfu no catch😂😂😂😂😂
@williampagdon4822
@williampagdon4822 Год назад
He was down at the 13. They placed it at the 12, then shortened the Chain, then moved the Ball past the chain. It was a disaster of Refereeing.
@Edward_Nebiolo
@Edward_Nebiolo 11 месяцев назад
That is why there should be reviews or challenges for at least high school playoff football cuz this kind of shit is a absolute disgrace to high school sports and if this effects playoff games or seeding into the playoffs for high school football and it makes refs even more hated for all their inconsistency and controversial call in all the sports
@basebilljr07
@basebilljr07 Год назад
I live at the Jersey Shore and one of my CO workers was at this Game he graduated from Southern high school he was telling me about this the day after
@davidroddick91
@davidroddick91 Год назад
The rolling of the ball was lateral and was only intended to move it closer to the stick. The loosening of the chains is where the cheating occurred. I once saw a game on TV where the official marked the end of the play with his foot, then looked over at the yardsticks, and slid his foot backwards half a yard. The play was short by about six inches.
@timslack7568
@timslack7568 Год назад
damn and I thought my alma mater got screwed in their playoff game when the refs measured a 1st down by pulling the chain tight to measure and then placing the ball down but this is far worse. Years ago I played against a ref that was known for being a terrible cheating ref but he was never this blatant. Weird thing he kind of looked like this dude to, but Im sure its not because Oklahoma and its been long enough Im sure hes dead or enjoying his last days by now
@jeremyglass4283
@jeremyglass4283 8 месяцев назад
1:19 horse collar tackle btw...that's an automatic first down!
@jimmcmonagle2360
@jimmcmonagle2360 Год назад
I was asked to referee for PA youth baskeball (PIAA). But I turned them down because I thought I would be too disruptive overturning the incorrect calls made by other refs.
@chick3nmp693
@chick3nmp693 7 месяцев назад
I’m glad I played a sport/position where I was allowed to be visibly angry. I don’t think I would have lasted long playing football.
@aaronscarpa7469
@aaronscarpa7469 Год назад
Reminds me of that situation where the ref in Texas got laid out a few years back. This is an example of how to be classy when dealing with a ref.
@youtubeaccount5153
@youtubeaccount5153 9 месяцев назад
It’s New Jersey. As an FBI agent I was close friends with said, how pervasive the corruption is doesn’t really shock you. What’s shocking is how little money it takes to bribe someone.
@commonsense8012
@commonsense8012 7 месяцев назад
This ref has been watching too much NFL ref's and decided "if they can cheat in the NFL, I can cheat in high school football"
@mmj9395
@mmj9395 Год назад
That cat should NEVER be allowed to referee another game for the rest of his life.
@rowlandbuck2703
@rowlandbuck2703 Год назад
I really hate it when refs blow a call and people say they “cheated for the other team”. But in this case it’s accurate lol
@stubie1456
@stubie1456 8 месяцев назад
Whoever said that didn’t affect the outcome know as much about football as that ref.
@NiFeGetsTubey
@NiFeGetsTubey Год назад
"Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Okay." -That one ref, with the pole.
@johnanderson7076
@johnanderson7076 Год назад
My son played a H.S. basketball game against a team in NM where the refs would start their 5 sec count and THEN throw the ball to the inbounds guy. A lot of 5 sec. calls in that game.
@ThePuttercross
@ThePuttercross Год назад
As a youth coach for decades what happens is parents often end up as the "chain gang" at these types of games. To remove the fudging that can happen by the parents the refs will mark the downs to start on yard markers. The head official probably knew the actual starting yard mark and from the placement of the ball he had already determined it was a first down. Just my two cents.
@MoreMonarchy
@MoreMonarchy 8 месяцев назад
Ref: Cheats League: How about paid leave?
@validationboy
@validationboy 8 месяцев назад
Teaching the youth fantastic sportsmanship and integrity
@Sjrick
@Sjrick 8 месяцев назад
That ref had a date with his tv and a plate of hot pockets
@stephensanderson9684
@stephensanderson9684 Год назад
As soon as you said New Jersey there's no amount of corruption that can surprise me. That referee should be immediately banned you okay and or interrogated interview to show all dirty referees involved and why
@jamessssssssssssss
@jamessssssssssssss Год назад
No mention of that giant kid
@goatitisful
@goatitisful Год назад
Jomboy is the best channel for sports of any & every kind.
@warmsoul5995
@warmsoul5995 Год назад
Just awful unacceptable behavior by officials
@davidreinhart418
@davidreinhart418 Год назад
Referees are the best way to show how corrupt humans can be.
@wa1w511
@wa1w511 Год назад
That was nothing....the Refs during Georgia High School playoffs used to call holding whenever they needed to pull a score back during the late 1970s, early 1980s. That's a lot worse than giving a first down.
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