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Highlighting their views on war (in yesterday's debate) 

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@DocZoidberg549
@DocZoidberg549 11 месяцев назад
I don't support hamas or the Israeli Government. I feel sorrow for the innocent people on both sides. This is so sad.
@kizzume
@kizzume 11 месяцев назад
Indeed
@emirdzafce103
@emirdzafce103 11 месяцев назад
How come these individuals are even in any position to decide about anything, let alone be candidates for president 😂
@ziggypop8106
@ziggypop8106 11 месяцев назад
They're talking like eliminating Hamas requires buying a couple of industrial sized cans of fly spray 😫
@kizzume
@kizzume 11 месяцев назад
Insane, isn't it?
@jellybelly230
@jellybelly230 11 месяцев назад
I love your input on these matters. It's always nice to hear about events from your perspective and compare them to mine. Keep up the great work
@Zeebo_Rowte
@Zeebo_Rowte 11 месяцев назад
⭐Kizzy 4 Prez 2024 ⭐
@kizzume
@kizzume 11 месяцев назад
I'd make the worst president ever.
@Paul-82
@Paul-82 11 месяцев назад
Vivek was interviewed by Ron Paul, and he was a libertarian in the 2000s when he was at Harvard. Could be why he's been taking notes on interventionism.
@marcosnobuhara1126
@marcosnobuhara1126 11 месяцев назад
Hello! Do you have any information about the JCS channel? Do you know why, after announcing that they would continue, they stopped posting videos 8 months ago? I'm just a curious fan. (I plan to post the response on Reddit to update other fans about the current state of the channel).
@kizzume
@kizzume 11 месяцев назад
I have no control over that sort of thing. I'm just their narrator guy reading scripts. Sorry I don't have more information for you. And I'm sorry I took so long to respond.
@l.e.phillips
@l.e.phillips 11 месяцев назад
It was so gross and depressing. 😖 And I’m not sure many democrats would disagree with them on this topic either.
@kizzume
@kizzume 11 месяцев назад
Neocons and neoliberals aren't very far from each other.
@l.e.phillips
@l.e.phillips 11 месяцев назад
@@kizzume True. A long way to go before the US figures that out I think.
@trevoralbert6995
@trevoralbert6995 11 месяцев назад
I’m glad that Tim guy doesn’t have a chance of a chance. He’s been the most obnoxious for me in all these debates
@kizzume
@kizzume 11 месяцев назад
Indeed.
@toribern816
@toribern816 11 месяцев назад
I like Ramaswammy. I mean out of these 5 anyway…… 😂 I say I-ran. Like I ran the hell away from that guy….
@kizzume
@kizzume 11 месяцев назад
This.
@SVJoe
@SVJoe 11 месяцев назад
If Gaza was an island off the coast a ways do you think that it would have already gotten the Hiroshima treatment? These puppets standing on stage doing a live audition to the globalists masters is hilarious. Each one trying to not out war monger the others without looking too horrible. Vivek is just Obama in a RINO suit. "Governor Christy, I want you to weigh in here."🤣🤣🤣
@kizzume
@kizzume 11 месяцев назад
I agree with the exception of Vivek being a RINO version of Obama.
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 11 месяцев назад
We could be going to space and spreading out humanity and terraforming planets but nah fighting over dirt is way more important. -_-;
@kizzume
@kizzume 11 месяцев назад
My opinion on space travel and terraforming planets would depress you.
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 11 месяцев назад
@@kizzume not any more then this war :D but yeah I mean - we have to get some people out there I think that would lessen the issues - if only "god" could tell them a spot in the solar system is holy eh?
@kizzume
@kizzume 11 месяцев назад
We're never going to travel the speed of light. The most we could hope for would be a wormhole. Either that or alien technology, assuming other life figured out a way to bypass the usual physical limitations put upon everything.
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 11 месяцев назад
@@kizzume we can make the sun itself into a rocket of sorts and move the whole solar system :)
@dhpbear2
@dhpbear2 11 месяцев назад
Tim Scott sounds like he'd been hitting the sauce! (5:33)
@kizzume
@kizzume 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, he could barely pronounce the name.
@dhpbear2
@dhpbear2 11 месяцев назад
@@kizzume Your tax dollars at work... :(
@Rick_Cleland
@Rick_Cleland 11 месяцев назад
Wasn't Don Lémon extremely racist to Ramaswamy?
@kizzume
@kizzume 11 месяцев назад
I don't know anything about that.
@2ahdcat
@2ahdcat 11 месяцев назад
Kizzles! Hi! 😺 I missed the debate.
@kizzume
@kizzume 11 месяцев назад
Vivek won the debate, hands down.
@2ahdcat
@2ahdcat 11 месяцев назад
@@kizzume 👍
@internetgod5407
@internetgod5407 11 месяцев назад
Kizzume you were wrong last night on Tommy's channel someone was just sentenced to 7 months in prison in the United States for posting a meme about being able to text your vote for Hillary Clinton
@kizzume
@kizzume 11 месяцев назад
It's horrible, and it's fortunately the only example I can think of.
@nathanwatkins1005
@nathanwatkins1005 10 месяцев назад
Just wait...slippery slopes and all.
@jcprugh5459
@jcprugh5459 11 месяцев назад
😂😂 you made me laugh out loud several times
@thanksforwatching4867
@thanksforwatching4867 11 месяцев назад
we miss u jim :(
@kuolpro2422
@kuolpro2422 10 месяцев назад
He just voices them
@oleksandrfedoriv
@oleksandrfedoriv 11 месяцев назад
this vivek dude has super incorrect views on ukraine
@kizzume
@kizzume 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, and in the video I should have called him out on the Israel's southern border gaffe.
@oleksandrfedoriv
@oleksandrfedoriv 11 месяцев назад
@@kizzumei mean yeah, that sounded super racist too. he’s a populist if i ever saw one
@salvadorpalma8173
@salvadorpalma8173 11 месяцев назад
@Kizzume I never claimed you are pro israel or that you aren't on the right side of this issue on the key and most important aspects, namely the genocide classification, the need for a cease fire, the need for a 2 state solution, etc. What I do say and tried pointing out is that in order to find middle ground or find a balanced position, you have several times taken israel's propaganda points as if they were facts and overal understated the atrocities Israel as done to the palestinians both living in gaza and the west bank (where hamas doesn't rule). I would never say you are a biggot, because you clearly are not. And I understand that you are disgusted by hamas' positions and actions, just like I am, and therefore you want to expose the bigotry of both sides. I just think that in trying to do so, you have fallen into some traps layed by IDF and unintentionally sometimes misrepresented some facts. For example claiming that Egypt doesn't allow Palestinians in because they don't want anything to do with Hamas. That's an Israel's talking point. They want the west to believe "See, not even arabs want this issue, and we have to deal with it every single day." When in fact the issue is much more complex. The countries don't want to have a humanitarian crisis and refugee camps like the ones created after the Nakba when 700.000 palestinians were forced out of their homes and became refugees in the neighboring countries, forever waiting to be allowed to come back to their houses in palestine, now territory occupied by Israel through the ilegal expaintion of its initial territory. Saying that they don't allow them in because they don't want anything to do with Hamas is basically implying that all palestinians are hamas and that's the same kind of biggoted mentallity that allows Israel to maim and imprision innocent palestinians, including child boys on a daily basis, without any valid reasons. My frustration with you is that by calling you out on this stuff, that granted, is not nearly as bad as for example bernie insisting in calling for a humanitarian pause rather than cease fire, and much better than these pro war stooges in this video, you become defensive and feel I'm somehow attacking you and therefore I'm either a sort of pro palestine absolutist or that I'm calling you pro israel or something like that. Instead of agreeing with me and recognizing you mispoke or disagreeing and showing me, with factual data, that I was wrong. Instead you chose to believe that I'm prosecuting or hating on you or that I should agree with you 100% just because we do agree on the most pressing and important issues. The truth is that this issue is complex and, especially now, it's muddied by propaganda and fog of war. But I've been paying close attention to this issue for about 15 years now and like me, many other people feel frustrated about the complacency of the western media and governments with the actions of israel, not just in the current war, but also throughout the last decades. It's hard to hear someone on youtube or on the tele making points that misrepresent the gravity of the situation or ignoring the continued suffering of the palestinians, both from gaza, the west bank and the refugee camps abroad at the hands of Israel and indirectly the USA and UK. It is very hard to just ignore it. For example, you aluded (I think you did, maybe I'm wrong. If you didn't, I'm sorry) in one of the videos to the idea that the numbers of dead people might not be correct because obviously they come from hamas' health ministry. This is a point that has been used ad nauseum in most media channels. I do admit that given the circumstances, there is in fact a possibility that the numbers (from hamas) are, for several reasons, (some more nefarious than others) inflated. But if you look at the history of these conflicts and compare, the preliminary numbers and the final counts have always been close and the tendency is in fact for the first count to be under the real number of victims. But that's not the way media (and I think you did it aswell) and Biden and other polititians have been representing it. Everyone is saying it like just because it comes from Hamas (which it doesn't because most data is corroborated by independent sources) it is likely wrong, when in fact we can prove that, at least in other conflicts, that was never the case. This is an IDF and Israeli propaganda tactic to create and cast doubt on the numbers of victims. The same way they use the human shields as a defense for any action, or any other number of sometimes half-truths, sometimes completely fabricated lies, in order to buy themselves time to erradicate the entirity of Gaza's population and infrastructure. The last thing I would say is that even the best, most humanitarian of us can be fooled by the incredible machine of propaganda. Some media channels are pure garbage, some being completely hamas' apolegists, others being israel's enablers. From what I gathered, the most independent source of news about this conflict has been Channel 4. This is my personal experience. Not saying they haven't screwed up yet. AlJazeera as been a good source of news on this issue for years, even though I wouldn't expect for example an investigation on the hospital bombing made by them to be the most imparcial, like the channel 4's one. Also MiddleEastEye here on youtube shows stuff that nobody else does about the Israely opprosion over palestinian people and although they are focused on the palestinian side, I haven't found them to be anti israel or anti semitic. They certainly don't go out of their way to condemn hamas either. They mostly feature videos captured by civilians or clips from other news channels.
@salvadorpalma8173
@salvadorpalma8173 11 месяцев назад
A great example of a very informative and humane piece: Israel-Hamas War: 'Palestinians Are Not Numbers, They're Human' | Piers Morgan vs Izzeldin Abuelaish
@kizzume
@kizzume 11 месяцев назад
Fair enough. It's hard to know for sure where to get good information, cross checking it with this or that to confirm things. I'll check out that interview.
@salvadorpalma8173
@salvadorpalma8173 11 месяцев назад
@@kizzume another great piece: Israel-Hamas War: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
@kizzume
@kizzume 11 месяцев назад
@@salvadorpalma8173 Just watched the John Oliver one. Decent video. Man I wish he didn't have a live studio audience, it's like they're watching a screen that tells them when to laugh or clap, it cheapens his message. I feel the same way about Bill Maher's audience.
@salvadorpalma8173
@salvadorpalma8173 11 месяцев назад
@@kizzume you watch bill maher? That's not good for your health man. Btw, bill just criticized obama for probably the first time, because he dared to call for a cease fire. Ps: remember when maher backed klobochar for the dem primary!? Ah... good times 🤣
@___Jamie____
@___Jamie____ 11 месяцев назад
That's why we need Trump back.
@kizzume
@kizzume 11 месяцев назад
Trump is 100% backing of anything Israel does.
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