Dear AB video editors, Great job! I appreciate how these highlights really show the momentum changes in the game instead of just showing scores. I wish World Rugby would do the same!
It's because Rugby is well funded in Europe (not just France), there are more teams and more professional competitions. Most of these kids already have first grade experience, so they're already battle hardened from playing against Men at a young age. I say good on them, I love seeing other countries do well that aren't the usual All Blacks, Wallabies, or Springboks. France will win this years world cup no doubt, and maybe the next one too.
@@fazertace6837that organisation as nothing to see with the money ! French been richest championship for long time and style structure wasn't there for national team...
It's not just a question of money, it's also a question of demographics and the number of licensees in a sport. Ever wonder why it's always the biggest nations that win the most Olympic medals? The United States, Russia and China are more likely to win medals because they have many more athletes in their countries, and therefore more likely to have champions. It's simply mathematics, the calculation of probabilities. Add to that the financial resources and infrastructure to train them. There's nothing extraordinary about the fact that France has a very good level today; it's just the logical evolution of their level of play after so much development and investment in such a large, developed country. What is extraordinary and incredible is that the All Blacks have dominated rugby for so many years. Genetics and their warrior people could partly explain this. I also imagine that rugby is a real religion over there. Bye the way, sorry for my english, I'm french.
The French miss two young players on this team (Emilien Gailleton best scorer in french rugby league this year and Louis Bielle-Biarrey). They are training with the senior team for the rugby world cup in France. Félicitation les gars pour le match
@@RankinMsP I wouldn't want to face these young monsters. The ground literally shakes when the opposing team is rushing in. Personal experience from a non rugby playing kiwi who played one season of Old Boys rugby at 22ish. It was an eye opener for sure. Tough, hard men.
Rather than be offended by these comments, I actually love how the world reacts when any NZ rugby team loses. It is a true sign of their respect and admiration for who we are as a rugby nation. Though we are not where we used to be, we're still the team every other team judges themselves by. Congrats 🇫🇷
yes because you're the country of rugby ! and you are only 5 millions people ! it's huge ! but i think because of this it will be much more difficult to stay number 1 every time !
@manueldumont3709 its not a pissing contest - it's a game. South Africa are great, France have their special qualities. Ireland are great to watch now. It's our national game...so us kiwis get a it carried away. But we RESPECT other teams. I'm pretty sure its mutual. PS - The ABs are 6 times world champions... I had nothing to do with that. They did it. I'm just lucky enough to be born a NZer. We're crap at plenty of things too.
This looks like the last "big" blues achievement in Twickenham last feb... French rugby is impressive at every levels. Allez les bleus, faites le cet automne
French team : 273 pro caps this season (not counting Pro D2 which is also a pro league) All black : 35 pro caps this season That make the difference. You have to give trust to your young talents and make them grow with the big boys.
I still have to watch the second half but I am still wondering about the NZ team tactics. Surely the coaching staff would have done some research on how the French forwards would play especially given the conditions? One of the lineouts we had at least 3 forwards not attempting to counter the obvious maul? They were very slow to respond and hanging off until way too late?
@@mauroger86I mean the first try by France. Back line went in untouched. But the forwards got them right up to the try line. The weather there was also horrendous. It’s a u20s team. Some of these guys are professional some are not. Give them a break. Quality rugby. And if it was this muddy and wet I’d have my 2 biggest guys get a lot of carries. It’s harder to run back line plays in these conditions. Id say be this picky about the national teams but these guys are still developing. France played some excellent rugby. I loved the big guys carrying and it was amazing to see teammates just hold them up through the tackle. That’s practiced that and you know they had to have tweaked the plan because of the weather. New Zealand also had some big lads but they could only match the energy of France for those 2 tries but had some good moments as well
2 great teams, so many skilled and powerful players on both sides. both teams deserved a better pitch. Ireland v Australia played before them on the same field and it was cut to pieces. love this tournament and the great skill and commitment on display!
There were huge floodings where people's houses and cars were damaged this year. All you can moan about are pitches???? What about people loosing their houses?
@@geotruthnz7013 No you can't. When I watched your high school games on RU-vid some of those grounds are not that good. You're looking for excuses - its the same for everyone. We could have had it in Joburg or Durban but then people like you will moan about altitude and hard grounds (yes the high school grounds are a lot harder up there vs Ellips Park etc that have special softer soil) or the humidity.
@@bunnychowmuncher When we had the U20 world cup we used grounds that are used in the local NPC comp and not club or school grounds that can't take the weather, that's all i'm saying.
The NZRU's contempt for the game at grassroots is starting to see the chickens come home to the roost. They thought they could take club and provincial rugby for granted and starve them of money - every cent goes to the top - in the expectation that collapsing player numbers would be easily compensated by a conveyer belt of talent out of the elite schools and acadamies. Instead, we've bred a new generation of players who have been told how amazing they are since they were 14 years old, have had the red carpet laid out for them to walk along since they early teenagers, and who are lazy, greedy, entitled and mercenary in their outlook. Now when they look around for hard nosed players who are prepared to roll their sleeves up because they understand what work means they are not there anymore.
@@colinmeehan791 That's because NZ rugby is looking at a new direction and that is through womens rugby when NZ rugby is built on the mens game! The mere fact that Tui held NZR to ransom over the Weetbix advert for not allowing her to have the LGBQT flag in her photo therefore her refusal to be a "lip service" for NZR is a illustration of where this game is heading in NZ - they should have cancelled her contract! Now you have 4 of the NZ rugby womens team playing contract rugby in the US who are still contracted to NZ rugby - you know what that means! NZR has gone WOKE - as Trump said ....:"if you go WOKE, you will go broke!".... NZ rugby is on death road! Auckland Rugby Union are covering up their participation rate stats - there has been a rise in womens rugby BUT a massive decline in kids rugby and the Auckland Rugby Union are claiming that the game is well in Auckland when a lot of the clubs are concerned with seeing the massive drop in participation rates with their junior rugby! The reason why ARU are pushing through with this is because of the funding that comes with womens rugby in terms of inclusivity! Auckland rugby is in MASSIVE TROUBLE!
@@thefobbie0034 Seen around the country. Now we may see more foreign players playing for the All Blacks, a certain coach didn't rule out next year. The set up in place is and has taken its toll.
@@richardmatatahi4563 - If NZR faulters to Robertson's demand here in selecting overseas players it will be the end of NZ rugby - we will have every country targeting our schoolboy rugby! We already have problems with the NRL invading our stocks - this will kill our production line!
I see alot of kiwi fans struggling with the reality of what is happening here. It's understandable considering you're a rugby nation and in the eyes of most rugby fans you're the face of rugby. The french system will eventually lead to the french dominating world rugby at both club and international level. What other nation has two national leagues that is absolutely stacked with quality teams. France is completely self-sufficient in this sport. They have invested massively into building this system and this is just the beginning. France has a population of 70 million people. They have around 400k registered players and just under 2k teams. As the sport grows in france we can expect these numbers to spike. As an Irishman it almost feels comical right as Irish rugby has made huge strides forward, the french at the same time have transformed into rugby behemoths. Sadly if Ireland can't win the upcoming Rugby world cup i don't think we'll ever win one. I've no doubt NZ will remain one of the best nations in world rugby, you'll probably even win the upcoming WC with the current team you've got. However you've never had to face a threat like this. By the time the next WC roles around I'm not sure anyone will hold a candle to the french.
Some much truth in this post. I would also add England even though they are underachieving at the moment, with the financial and human ressources they have, they should be able to compete with France in the long run
Hard to predict the future tbh, but France are definitely stacked with resources, as the OP said, even their second tier league is professional, actually iirc their D3 and even D4 are even semi professional. Loads of lower league games also televised apparently. Anyway France look like they will be at least a big force for the next decade, but it still comes down to 23 individuals plus coaches, so they will be getting challenged for sure. As for thinking this is Ireland's only chance of winning the RWC, all you can really ask of an organisation is to do its best, the IRFU like other rugby unions could improve some things for sure, but in terms of the men's national team and provinces, it's done a very good job overall. I think we have enough of a structure and decent players coming through to give hope of at least being competitive at the next couple of world cups, beyond that who knows! As for England, IMO they have an obvious example to look for and that is France, but their second division got a massive downgrade a few years ago, so unlike France they basically have only one professional league that has had an annus horribilis, think it's going to take a good while and need the right people in charge to get their structures sound, it won't help their national team in the meanwhile, but they still have the population and enough quality players to come up with decent teams, but possibly not consistently.
@harshbutfair8993 In regards to my opinion on Irelands' chances of winning a RWC, it's not a slight on how the IRFU are running things. Personally, I think they're doing an incredible job. It's not about what we're doing wrong but rather what France is doing right. Most of the world has yet to truly embrace rugby. Rugby remains a minnow sport in most of the major developed nations around the world. France is truly the first developed nation with a huge population that has not only embraced rugby but also built a professional structure. Just looking at some of the other rugby nations. England has major cash flow issues, and their clubs have started going bust. South Africa is still a developing nation. Although they can compete in regards to population and player base, they suffer from a lack of resources and have no national leagues. They remain reliant on mixed nation leagues. USA has yet to truly embrace the sport. If this changes, they could become a monster in rugby. It's hard to know if the sport will ever be able to compete with American football. Australia, I'm not even sure what's gone wrong. When it comes to countries like Ireland, NZ, Wales, and Scotland, we are minnows in regards to population and finances compared to France. I still think that NZ and Ireland, in particular, will remain highly competitive it's just really difficult to see anyone going toe to toe with France consistently. As for club rugby, we can already see the impact the French system has had on European rugby. The last three Champions cups and Challenge cups have been won by a French team. No Irish team has won a European Cup since 2018 despite this being one of our best groups of players and Leinster currently having what many would call a golden generation.
That French pack looked massive! NZ style of trying to out pace evryone is dead. The rest of the world has more size but the with lungs to match. Baby blacks still a talented bunch. Excited about the future of the AB's if we can switch up our approach 💪🏽
It’s not dead. Look at the state of that pitch. Also France can play ball when they want and need but the conditions didn’t allow. If all you can do is Forward dominent play and Big men, it will not work come the World Cup.
i'm french and i 'm not sure that team A all black will be dominated in the next wc in france against france !! we must always respect the opponent especially when it is the ALL black
@@ahhere7880 It is dead - pattern rugby is only lateral movement and if you can map the right defense then we will get hammered! This pattern rugby does NOT go well against umbrella rush defence from out to in! Rugby is all about pressure - we have lost that art because we are deluded that we can break open any defence from anywhere - LMAO!!!
what was this extra extended version of haka ??? still agressive and provocative at the end...? ridiculous... baby blacks should focus on their skills not vocal aggression... none bravery in that
Congrats to France, dominant forward pack set the platform, much needed on a wet pitch. NZ, keep your head up boys, showing some great signs already with little time together. Future looks bright for world rugby, awesome to see.
A gutsy 'leopard-like' performance from N Z U20's, however, this young French side were 'tigers'. Savage, unrelenting, powerful, huge. The ball-handling, craft, and speed of foot of the enormous French pack was so effective, in such dreadful weather conditions. As for the future of 'Les Bleus'? It seems well bloody secure with this crop of young men coming along. Hard luck NZ U20's.
Despite the loss, I see not only the French team improving and progressing as they go in the tournament but our boys in black as well. We're not only in to win or lose, but to learn too. I guarantee if there was rematch between these phenomenal teams, we'll see a change and possibly our boys capturing the win. These comments mentioning the 'downfall' and what not - what a load of BS. These youngins' are improving as they are going about playing for our country. So much potential, and i'm not giving up just yet. I've got hope and faith that our boys will do bits - no doubt the future and world of rugby is in for a big surprise. Congratulations to the French team for the win though 🇫🇷. Hard luck lads, we only up from here; you've got my applause heard from afar here in South Auckland, NZ 🌿🇳🇿.
As an Irish fan, I would say In the big picture NZ will always be in the mix as a contender I believe, but it's not looking too likely that you will progress in this competition, as only one runner up gets out of the pools, you would need a lot of results in the other pools to go your way, bit of a severe format, but guess it doesn't drag out the tournament unnecessarily long.
@@harshbutfair8993 Yeah, I'm afraid so. I do agree, NZ are definitely contenders. As I mentioned previously, many teams have progressed and learned over the years - the work they have put in has done bits and got them to where they are now. It's hard to determine which team will take the win or loss, it just depends on which team really wants it (not saying our boys in black didn't want it, but the games' the game is an easier way of saying it I guess). Wales is currently 2nd in our pool, putting NZ in 3rd so yeah, (NZ is to face Japan, but even if we score more points it may not be enough. Japan is not to be underestimated though, I consider them the 'underdogs' in my opinion but we'll see on the day of the match). It's more likely France will be the A-side and move to the semi's or quarters' (not too sure how it works lol). But, anything can happen. Definitely looking forward to the rest of the tournament, and of course we don't want to drag out the tournament out for too long; fair and square I suppose.
New Zealand absolutely humiliated. It's tragic to see how the current administration at RNZ have failed to develop talent at the grass root's level - but the consequences were there to see today. Well done France. That's how you play rugby.
You just have to look at the Ireland-France game in the last 6N, it was the sort of quality of rugby that you only got to see at 3N (and even so, very rarely), never in a millions years in 6Ns.....but now, things have changed
Can we say great play from France? Certainly not bad. Deserve the win. Embarrassing from NZ. What are there? Maybe one prospect in this team? 2? Worrying
@@lacress6667 , what I am saying is that New Zealand don't have the best picks anymore and it is affecting how dominant they are. This is just one reason. Other nations having a better schools coaching, not playing South African teams in Super Rugby. I'm sure you have a few more reasons
This young French team are very good having seen previous games they've played, well drilled team, Our boys next time and welcome back to International rugby been a few years.
Ireland had a lot of famine emigrants (or deported by the British) to Australia and the USA, with the grand-father clause the IRFU could recruit young Irish-americans who began US footbal and whish to put their athletic qualities to use with rugby.
Money talks and it's showing more and more. I personally know 1 young man who has gone to Italy for a contract this week and I have 2 nephews playing pro rugby in Japan. We all know young one's who have been scouted by rugby league from our rugby schools. NZ talent is not limitless. Nevertheless we will still enjoy competing and enjoying whatever comes. Well done France, too good.
New Zealand aren't known for the physical style of play they prefer a fast paced running game.A couple of years a ago this style of rugby was stopped by physical dominance and rush defense.All thanks to the Boks.Then the rest of the world followed that blueprint and have had great success.For a while NZ rugby seemed to be stubborn and wouldn't change their approach to the game.But they realized change was needed and they started making changes to the game they play.They are not quite there yet but they are slowly coming to the party.For the first time in NZ rugby history they now have to play catch up and believe me when I tell you they will catch up sooner or later.Everyone was talking about and fearing this huge French forward pack.I was interested in this game because I wanted to see the battle upfront.I saw every carry every collision and every counter ruck and I admire these NZ boys for fronting up and bringing an absolute war and giving it all they got.There were times they made this French pack look quite normal.I can see that they most definitely are trying to change their approach to the game.Coming from a South African
Nz aren’t known for physical style because they prefer fast paced, flashy style rugby. But if they chose to play a physical game, don’t get it mixed up x they would dominate the boks. 1 the the boks lack, is Polynesian strength. & nz has an abundance
@@activegas1014 true, definitely the genes are telling....and ofcourse he is an import all day. But still he is a young blood either way...I mean he is in u20, am I right in saying so?
Seems like the old adage, its the forwards who determine who wins the game and the backs just determine by how much. It feels like the day of the smaller athletic forward is coming to an end and giant power forwards who can now go for 60+ minutes have arrived. The game plans for these bigger sized teams and the current rules of rugby have really allowed them to control the pace of the game and use their size to dominate the smaller SH forwards. Its quite noticeable that NZ loosies in particular are giving away quite a bit of size and it looks like the next generation arent going to change that.
100% agreed. A player of Posolo Tuilagi size & stature would never be selected in the NZ/AUS u/20 system because he would not be skillful and mobile enough. For example Uini Atonio born in NZ played for Counties Manukau. Went to France and now is anchoring the scrum for France national team.
@peterleasi5905 yes there does seem to be bias towards specific attributes in the NZ development and scouting system when identifying and promoting players for higher honours. Most of that criteria will come from the top and the brand of rugby they want to play. They will have to hope Robertson can unlock a winning game plan with these types of players as he's unlikely to have different types of forwards coming out of NZ for the next 6 years apart from the odd freak who is both massive AND has the requisite athleticism for a NZ forward.
I'm convinced that Tuilangi is samoan for beast. The Baby Blacks have the backline to compete, but lack cattle in the pack. Size is an issue. They should still make the quarters though.
@@harshbutfair8993 After looking at the point situation after 2 rds I predict that France will remain undefeated and progress. New Zealand will beat Japan with a bonus point and quality for a semi final as best 2nd place. Ireland will go through, but Australia will beat England and eliminate them both. South Africa will win their extremely competive pool, moving on, with 2nd place Georgia not having enough points.
@@MapsCharts I was close though. NZ just missed out by a small points differential, and Australia almost beat England. This was my picks after the last pool games. 1. France 2. Ireland 3. South Africa 4. England 5. Georgia 6. New Zealand 7. Australia 8. Wales 9. Italy 10. Argentina 11. Fiji 12. Japan But if the Joeys have already beaten the Baby Blacks, Im definitely not surprised. They shared a pre tournament series one game each and are very evenly matched.
I think this NZU20s team need to find their own identity rather than trying to emulate their super rugby counterparts. The northern teams are winning with heavy focus on the fundamentals. To me it looked like a sevens approach by NZ in a 15s game...especially in the kind of conditions. Either way at least these boys know what theyre up against now
Convincing win for France following Ireland's similar result against Australia. And that great draw between Ireland and England! Makes the future of the 6 Nations look very bright.
I hope so too! However, inevitably, the higher the competition, the more boring the tactics implemented by the coaches. It's great to see the U-20 playing these wide-open matches.
Who picked this New Zealand side?? We have all grown accustomed to New Zealand teams at all levels having the best skillset on the field, this team couldn't pass properly, defend a maul, win a lineout or even just execute a coherent gameplan! Atrocious!
I know this is ‘only’ U20s but that pitch is in a shocking state for a World Cup fixture. Reminiscent of 1980s British rugby. I thought we’d moved on from then. Still a good match though.
Tackle around the flamin' ankles you young jokers. You're letting guys run waaay too far with the ball and all going upstairs instead of taking the guy to ground. No one can run without legs. Gee whizz!
Just shows how much NZ have fallen behind the Northern Hemisphere, not only in the men's game but in age group as well. Absolutely dominated. Will be a similar result when the two countries meet in a few Months are RWC.
Strange but from the point of France and Europe, we don't see like that. You haven't lowered your level in NZ and the big nations of the south, it's the big European nations that have raised theirs! Finally France in the lead, the big European nations have understood how to really make their Rugby a real Rugby pro from the youngest hopes in their clubs and academies. You knew how to do before us, we have now quite simply caught up with you on this point. And in the end, like the number, the human reservoir (even if the All Blacks actually loot all the best players from the independent islands around NZ ^^), and the finances, are largely to the advantage of the big European nations like France and England and even Italy now, more populated and richer than those in the south, the work pays! And now their level is very high too. You can still beat us of course but it will be much more difficult and less consistent than before... What we saw there is just logical therefore in view of the number and the real wealth compared. So no you are not less strong than before. The big nations of the south (NZ, AFS and Australia) remain very strong! It's just that now the big European nations have caught up with you, France in the lead, and are as strong as you, or even stronger currently. I remind the scores of the day: France 35 - New Zealand 14 Australia 10 - Ireland 30 England 53 - Fidji 7 Georgia 20 - Argentina 0 and to finish : South Africa 26 - Italy 34 ! I can't wait for the World Cup in France which is coming in 2 months! Because now there are many more teams than before and not only the big teams from the South who can win it. Whatever the European or "southern" final winner, I'm sure that we Rugby fans around the world will experience a great World Cup, everything is there for that, the place and the teams!!
Interest in rugby in NZ is declining,participation has falling and we're just not getting the big keen younger players coming thru,worrying times for rugby in our country for sure😢
Incorrect. It’s shown the growth of French rugby. The ABs this year will definitely be stronger than last season. The trend was becoming clear after the coaching clean out halfway through last season.
