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Highlights: Young Voters' Debate | 1News Election 2023 Recap 

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Six political parties got to pitch for the youth vote at the TVNZ Young Voters' Debate.
The "cost of surviving", housing, rainbow rights and climate change were some of the hot topics.
The candidates who appeared on behalf of their parties were Labour MP Arena Williams, National MP Erica Stanford, ACT MP and deputy leader Brooke Van Velden, Green MP Chlöe Swarbrick, Te Pāti Māori candidate Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke and New Zealand First candidate Lee Donoghue.
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@forhuey
@forhuey 11 месяцев назад
Erica is so bland, she was so weak here
@barrynichols2846
@barrynichols2846 11 месяцев назад
And entitled. Out of touch.
@antmanatthemoment7233
@antmanatthemoment7233 11 месяцев назад
8:21: funny you say that Chloe, considering i didn't see you or any of the other greenies condemn Marama for her saying that white cis men are responsible for all the violence in the world, which is not only racist, it's also untrue
@tumbleweedlyfe
@tumbleweedlyfe 11 месяцев назад
Very true. Green party has become the racist woke socialist nz party
@Epsilon_86
@Epsilon_86 11 месяцев назад
Heres the word for it, it starts with h and ends in -ypcorisy.
@antmanatthemoment7233
@antmanatthemoment7233 11 месяцев назад
@@Epsilon_86 hmm, I wonder what that word is
@timhinchliff6362
@timhinchliff6362 11 месяцев назад
The greens are the most intolerant party.
@antmanatthemoment7233
@antmanatthemoment7233 11 месяцев назад
@@timhinchliff6362 indeed, though it's stiff competition between them and Te Pati Maori
@hadleyjones4163
@hadleyjones4163 11 месяцев назад
Wow if these people are the future of nz politics we are all doomed !
@michaelmarama-de4gx
@michaelmarama-de4gx 11 месяцев назад
As soon as the video clip started we were doomed when Chloe girl was throwing a tantrum 😂
@harrisoncrane4731
@harrisoncrane4731 10 месяцев назад
"Oh no! Young people!" - Hadley Jones, certified NIMBY
@hadleyjones4163
@hadleyjones4163 10 месяцев назад
@@harrisoncrane4731 it doesn't matter if there young or not ,their just idoits !
@Thumderfire7762
@Thumderfire7762 7 месяцев назад
good news report
@Francois39
@Francois39 11 месяцев назад
Lee was absolutely on fire Because he was completely smoked by Chlöe.
@TheCool744
@TheCool744 10 месяцев назад
She sounded good... but that's all. If you remove the noise and ganging up on Lee... He actually made sense
@CHCHNZ461
@CHCHNZ461 11 месяцев назад
I am struggling with who to vote for because I expect that leaders set an example and are civil to each other. Not gang up and scream at the "minority" just because they disagree as I just witnessed. Very contradictory and sad to see.
@ezrawislang5760
@ezrawislang5760 10 месяцев назад
New Zeal.
@davejordan267
@davejordan267 10 месяцев назад
Cause that's how politicians are especially labour. They try take advantage of the groups that are considered less fortunate and try use them for political gain.
@jessetheman2645
@jessetheman2645 11 месяцев назад
That interviewer was SO BIAS towards the green, labour, Māori side. Always supported whatever those parities said. Yet challenged whatever national, act and NZ Frist had to say. The young interviewer was clearly a stupid greenie. Message to the interviewer: Your only there to ask questions, you may have been allowed to debate a little but not only towards one side. One News should get a new interviewer.
@emmamarlenesoutham
@emmamarlenesoutham 11 месяцев назад
its the "young voters debate" have you ever just considers right wing parties don't have much to talk about on the subject because they have polices making it harder for us to rent, get an education etc. also why would they have an old interviewer in a literal young debate??? please use your brain before commenting
@jessetheman2645
@jessetheman2645 11 месяцев назад
@@emmamarlenesoutham Frist off, the right wing parties are not going to make it harder for young people to rent or get an education. Right wing parties just want more land owners to have more legal rights and actions that involve the houses that they own. Because Landowners are paying mortgage and have responsibility for that house. Now right wing parties may defund certain aspects of an economy, but that is to ensure that tax cuts can happen and hard working New Zealanders can keep more of their hard earned money. Lastly yea I understand why they would have a younger interviewer for a young debate. But that doesn’t justify the interviewer being SO bias towards one side, and try to argue with them, that’s not the interviewers job. Please think twice and Use Your brain before replying to my comment. Also study the policies of parties and tax policies of parties. Before you attempt to prove a point.
@OldOneTooth
@OldOneTooth 11 месяцев назад
​​@@jessetheman2645so you don't see any connection between more overseas buyers buying houses (to fund tax cuts ) competing in a finite market leading to increasing house prices due to increased demand? Or increasing house prices giving a better opportunity to leverage that value to buy more houses, increasing demand and therefore increasing house prices? Or money that could be used as a deposit tied up in a bond making it more difficult to compete in a rising bubble of a housing market? Or landlords increasing rent to both cover increased outlay and reflect a reasonable return on an increased value? Or increased rent driving inflation and making it harder for those trying to build a deposit to compete on the housing market as disposable income drops to meet rent? Or how increased worker security makes it harder for those without investment income to secure loans? Maybe use your empathy more. Buy yes definitely look at all the policies and their impacts. Search "policy nz 2023" for a good side by side comparison with expandable detail.
@William_Zhi_Chen
@William_Zhi_Chen 11 месяцев назад
@@emmamarlenesoutham and is that a legitimate reason for an interviewer to be biased just because the crowd is mostly left-wing? Young people seriously don't know anything!
@emmamarlenesoutham
@emmamarlenesoutham 11 месяцев назад
@@William_Zhi_Chen if you are a confident and qualified politician you wont succumb to the pressure of hard questions. if an interviewer if asking challenging questions about your policy, you should be able to respond as it is your own parties policy- nzf candidate has no idea whats going on hense he struggled to answer questions any other mp here could of tackled, which isn't reflective of hard questions, its reflective of an mp lacking intelligence
@JLUCKY6
@JLUCKY6 11 месяцев назад
I live near ORMISTON, the cost of homes there start from $1.5 million with no land and crowded cars park infront of your house, if your lucky enough to find a deposit the montlhy repayments based on currect rates on a 25 year term is $8K , Im not intrested in voting for any of these clowns unless a party challenge the money system.
@jomigregory7253
@jomigregory7253 11 месяцев назад
Precisely bro ! The current 'free' market for money system is more 'free' for asset-rich people. Fixing this need talking more about banking fundamentals. RBNZ has clearly mentioned how banks 'create' money by issuing more mortgages. We should stop using this 'created' money for investors' speculation. They should only use 'earned' money to invest
@JLUCKY6
@JLUCKY6 11 месяцев назад
@@jomigregory7253 you got it bro, look at NATIONAL & LABOUR policies, they are 100 years old, BORING how many years they have been trying to fix the same problems its all BS to keep them employed, NZ FIRST policy rubbish, ACT rubbish, unless a new party challenge the money system and change the financial system you wont see me at the voting booth again
@forhuey
@forhuey 11 месяцев назад
Facts. And I wonder, is affordability a goal of this system? When has it intended to be equitable? I don't believe that are ANY affordable housing markets that are dependant on private ownership. Singapore has 80% of its housing stock as public housing, rich, poor, everything in between
@velocity5646
@velocity5646 11 месяцев назад
The greens and maori party literally have policy that will prevent land banking and housing speculation, helping bring down prices.
@bernardguynunns5658
@bernardguynunns5658 10 месяцев назад
Banks are legal criminal enterprises. Always have been. They enslave and gouge their 'clients' while our governments look on and do nothing to stop it.
@goldsharktooth
@goldsharktooth 11 месяцев назад
New system pls. Am over these clowns making rules up as they go. This day and age with technology available, every issue, bill etc put it to referendum. Let us decide what we want in a more targeted way. So sick of politicans we dont need them.
@hospitalcleaner
@hospitalcleaner 8 месяцев назад
The question is will that actually make things better? How many people do you think will actually do the research and not just vote based on their own bias and assumptions?
@zeno_aratus
@zeno_aratus 10 месяцев назад
All good viewpoints from each candidate. Enjoyed it. Makes it tough to decide who to vote for
@narkysharky2135
@narkysharky2135 11 месяцев назад
Why is there only 1 male? I don't feel very represented? Was that up to 1News or the parties?
@OldOneTooth
@OldOneTooth 11 месяцев назад
Mum always said if you want to attract another guinea pig use a female guinea pig. The girls will join for company, the boys for other reasons. If you're looking for the easily dominated or those past interest in such things you can try the alpha male idea, but they tend to wander off on their own trying to build a herd, or be cowled by a more dominant alpha especially a female one. The parties choose, some had less wrinkly choices than others.
@cupcakkexpeaches2217
@cupcakkexpeaches2217 11 месяцев назад
That's the Parties decision, 1News definitely cannot decide who comes, Simeon Brown was supposed to come for National but maybe pulled out, kinda shocking to see National didnt have a young person because Erica Stanford is 45 🤣
@1NewsNZ
@1NewsNZ 11 месяцев назад
Kia ora-the decision of which candidate to send to political debates sits with the parties.
@nadinearona3060
@nadinearona3060 10 месяцев назад
Will you be posting the full video?
@hunha991
@hunha991 10 месяцев назад
The mediator asking how can we check gender at schools is just ridiculous. How about we just use the same common sense we have been using for the last 100+ years?
@jacobnewton840
@jacobnewton840 11 месяцев назад
Lee Donoghue has real “deer-in-the-headlights” energy.
@Epsilon_86
@Epsilon_86 11 месяцев назад
Kinda unsurprising when you have multiple people in the debate converging on one person.
@thethinkinghats
@thethinkinghats 11 месяцев назад
They're ganging up on him because he's the only one talking sense
@Epsilon_86
@Epsilon_86 11 месяцев назад
​@@thethinkinghats Very true, Lee is someone who is here to convey his and his parties ideas. Unfortunately he was being watered down by the people on the other side of the political aisle. That and you can already see this audience's political predisposition by their reactions.
@jacobg1188
@jacobg1188 10 месяцев назад
And the rest a woke asf
@TheCool744
@TheCool744 10 месяцев назад
Lee's the only candidate on that panel that actually makes perfect common sense
@neleh7402
@neleh7402 10 месяцев назад
Ain’t no way that’s the actor from Shortland street???
@nzkid2599
@nzkid2599 10 месяцев назад
Yeah
@EaGerTYryhMe_-.
@EaGerTYryhMe_-. 10 месяцев назад
Only reason I'm watching this Let's go shortie!!!🤣
@btmshack
@btmshack 11 месяцев назад
Voting for green is the dumbest thing to do 😂😂😂
@RJH755
@RJH755 10 месяцев назад
Happy to do what the right thinks is dumb, two ticks green from me!
@desmondfrost1763
@desmondfrost1763 10 месяцев назад
Desmond here I totally agree
@redpink9773
@redpink9773 10 месяцев назад
Fortunately very few people vote Green
@RJH755
@RJH755 10 месяцев назад
@@redpink9773 Around 13-14% plan to according to recent polls, including me 😌
@melia6711
@melia6711 10 месяцев назад
can you elaborate why for us? since you're so intelligent
@jackhammond2901
@jackhammond2901 10 месяцев назад
How can the lady that is meant to be running the show and is meant to be equil be so far left wing. She literally was criticising the nz first guy while he was talking and didn’t do that once to any of the others
@natecampbell9557
@natecampbell9557 10 месяцев назад
Well done Lee...Chloe should be on Shortland St instead of in Politics...drama queen!
@diazrautu2836
@diazrautu2836 10 месяцев назад
Male and female bathrooms should remain seperate!
@luckyM9963
@luckyM9963 10 месяцев назад
Also! what the hell non binary is ?! lol! I would not get Chloe near my children..
@jeebs6
@jeebs6 10 месяцев назад
they are not male or female, so are they human?
@dontcomply3976
@dontcomply3976 11 месяцев назад
Pathetic Notice how all the hard questions go to the National, ACT and NZ First
@BenPeterson-id3gy
@BenPeterson-id3gy 11 месяцев назад
That mediator has to be the worst I've ever seen.
@emmamarlenesoutham
@emmamarlenesoutham 11 месяцев назад
ts the "young voters debate" have you ever just considers right wing parties don't have much to talk about on the subject because they have polices making it harder for us to rent, get an education
@fallingwatersnz
@fallingwatersnz 11 месяцев назад
Because this was a 'Renews' debate who are extremely left biased.
@reasonablearticalo
@reasonablearticalo 11 месяцев назад
So you're saying National and Act can't answer hard questions? Makes sense with their lack of costings.
@jayja3618
@jayja3618 11 месяцев назад
plenty of hard questions went both ways. National, nz first, and act just made them look hard with their ridiculous answers
@MrTumblingmoth
@MrTumblingmoth 11 месяцев назад
here we have one guy representing his views in a considered way yet he is shouted down - rude and completely off putting if you want to be listened to. Lee was a newcomer - never seen before and he cleaned up because he is researched and can talk without abusing anyone. The Look of the Green lady is most off putting
@skacotar
@skacotar 11 месяцев назад
The "look of that Green lady" is one of anger. She is listening to a man who does not care about struggling communities in her country and wishes to focus only on removing what few freedoms have been given to them. A man who only "half" believes in the climate emergency that the world is so clearly experiencing and who represents a party that believes Māori influence is too prominent in the country they have a right to. Of course she looks upset and heated. It's because she cares. If you can keep a straight face while talking about these issues then you suffer from a lack of empathy.
@IeremiaAnae-rj4pj
@IeremiaAnae-rj4pj 10 месяцев назад
Came back to Auckland 2012 and it was necessary then like the mountains or part of the property developments already underway
@sammytdawg8816
@sammytdawg8816 11 месяцев назад
Hana and Chloe killed it ❤
@davejordan267
@davejordan267 10 месяцев назад
Chloe is a joke of an MP hahahaha
@bernardguynunns5658
@bernardguynunns5658 10 месяцев назад
Killed it right enough. Like the economy.
@bellapullman10002
@bellapullman10002 10 месяцев назад
Chloe is arrogant and doesn't see others point of view...
@redpink9773
@redpink9773 10 месяцев назад
Is that sarcasm? or stupidy?
@davejordan267
@davejordan267 10 месяцев назад
@@redpink9773 honestly can anyone take the greens seriously
@IeremiaAnae-rj4pj
@IeremiaAnae-rj4pj 10 месяцев назад
Better pull your finger out aye owfallabae
@IeremiaAnae-rj4pj
@IeremiaAnae-rj4pj 10 месяцев назад
Blah blah blah blah
@KINNZ94
@KINNZ94 10 месяцев назад
Please guys, the person representing Act is right. You put more pressure on house owners, and the rent goes up. I please as a renter. Please don’t do anything. I will find the best rent I can afford. If you keep introducing healthy home regulations, increase the insulation requirement, cancel tax deductibility of interest and all of those “good” stuff, it makes the rent go up. It is like forcing everyone to drive a Mercedes. I just need a cheap rent so I can save enough money to buy my own house one day. Please stop doing anything. Leave it to the market, and landlords will provide good enough houses for a affordanle price.
@hospitalcleaner
@hospitalcleaner 8 месяцев назад
Spoken like someone who's never lived in a damp, mold infested house in their life, with a landlord who takes 3 months of regular remaining to get the smallest things repaired.
@ReyWho
@ReyWho 11 месяцев назад
NZ First and people like Lee Donoghue stand for common sense. My vote goes to NZ First, and yes I'm a young voter who is certainly not 'woke'.
@Epsilon_86
@Epsilon_86 11 месяцев назад
It's quite haunting to realise how subtle wokeness can be in influence, stand firm my non woke brothers and sisters who stand for true equality and equity.
@sonja5058
@sonja5058 10 месяцев назад
@@Epsilon_86 equity unless you're trans right?
@Epsilon_86
@Epsilon_86 10 месяцев назад
@@sonja5058 no, equity unless the rights of any other group appears to be in jeopardy.
@sonja5058
@sonja5058 10 месяцев назад
​@@Epsilon_86 that is still "equity unless"
@Epsilon_86
@Epsilon_86 10 месяцев назад
@@sonja5058 and?
@Kenny-er5um
@Kenny-er5um 10 месяцев назад
I love the bathroom policy. 👍🏻
@first2last71
@first2last71 11 месяцев назад
nz first only good option !!!!
@bennconner1195
@bennconner1195 11 месяцев назад
Yeah he was the only guy that wasn’t reading from the same script.
@carl5381
@carl5381 10 месяцев назад
imagine hearing the absolute worst ideas come out of their mouths and taking them seriously. Just look at their behavior. As soon as the dude starts talking they have to interrupt, make faces and talk over him like little emotional children. These people are involved in government. Children. Giving them the vote was a mistake.
@zvarynengu-cordtz7883
@zvarynengu-cordtz7883 10 месяцев назад
just struggling to understand if we watched the same video? everything you stated in your comment when shown in the video I just watched was portrayed through the “dude” you so ignorantly mentioned. From using the word “transgendering” which isn’t even the right term, to interrupting the HOST of the show, to then continuously interrupting other parties during there time with points that have no valid reason. Every person on that panel represents a political party, these people are politicians fighting for NZ rights, if you make a point and everyone else (including the audience) disagrees with it maybe JUST MAYBE he’s not someone who should be representing the people. Maybe watch the video again and see who keeps interrupting who.
@trinityjackson9122
@trinityjackson9122 10 месяцев назад
@@zvarynengu-cordtz7883can’t even lie every time Chloe scHOoled him I cheered. “Transgendering” and “Wokeism” had me in fits. Nz first supporters be cut watching Green rUIN their mans
@steveb4599
@steveb4599 10 месяцев назад
... excessive profits.... chloe is a walking excessive profit.
@yesterday1396
@yesterday1396 11 месяцев назад
Chloe was definitely the winner of this debate
@davejordan267
@davejordan267 10 месяцев назад
Loudest in the room should definelty be the quietest.
@TheCool744
@TheCool744 10 месяцев назад
Overrated. A lot of good sound bites... no actual substance of delivering anything
@JGCoolfella
@JGCoolfella 11 месяцев назад
Lmao ghost house tax. You made it hard for us to make the house fit to rent out, so we spend what time and money we have doing it up. Now you want to penalize us for having an empty house because it doesn't meet your ridiculous standards.
@whiro8945
@whiro8945 10 месяцев назад
Just sell it bro
@justinsingh221
@justinsingh221 10 месяцев назад
"Are you talking about the Women and Lesbos now, so let me have a moment please" the voice of reason why I voted Green today :)
@OldOneTooth
@OldOneTooth 11 месяцев назад
Some people's hard questions are the real issues of others hard life. Not every political question can be a patsy question from a paid for advertorial, giving the opportunity to grandstand. Easy to see who struggled to speak with anything but rhetoric and who actually did the research to be able to answer the "hard" quedtions.
@mr2981
@mr2981 11 месяцев назад
"You want peoples families to not come to New Zealand"? Uh, correct. My wife snd i immigrated to NZ 20 years ago, were both qualified in areas of critical skills shortages, and we were young enough to have a long working lifetime ahead. It was made very clear in the application that our being admitted did not mean anyone else could be, and of course not. It does NZ no good, and in fact would be very costly for the country, to let my unemployed brother in, or my parents who are retired. FFS, only NZ First guy had anything sensible to say at all.
@IeremiaAnae-rj4pj
@IeremiaAnae-rj4pj 10 месяцев назад
Where is the relationship between government and local iwi owfallabae
@horseweldon
@horseweldon 11 месяцев назад
Definitely NOT Chloe's finest performance. At some point she will need to properly front and in good faith address the very real challenges amongst the LBGTQ+ community themselves and conflicting rights amongst members of that group. This pretence that this conflict doest not exist will not move us forward.
@porthard5951
@porthard5951 11 месяцев назад
Good little communists.
@dididogster9994
@dididogster9994 11 месяцев назад
thank you :)
@IeremiaAnae-rj4pj
@IeremiaAnae-rj4pj 10 месяцев назад
What is the councils there for they have nurseries
@alstoncasa
@alstoncasa 11 месяцев назад
Nz first candidate made a lot of sense the pendulum has swung too far too the left that the abnormal is now considered normal
@EcoKiwiMagazine
@EcoKiwiMagazine 11 месяцев назад
Hmm... Nah, I don't think so. I'm a very boringly ordinary middle aged middle class plain white het male of Euro descent, and i reckon the freedom and diversity the younger generations have now to be and express themselves is a wonderfully beautiful thing. Look, if someone's hurting someone else, then that ought not happen. But if they're not hurting anyone else, then there's simply no problem, and whether a third person considers another one or two "abnormal" or "normal" is just totally irrelevant. Anyway, wow, I can't wait for Chloe Swarbrick to be PM. I hope it's next election. She is so amazing.
@OldOneTooth
@OldOneTooth 11 месяцев назад
Progress isn't a pendulum it's a stairway to a better world for all. Women voting was considered abnormal, children dying of disease was considered normal. Dragging people a few steps back towards the dark ages and witch burnings should never be a political goal. Being a better more caring and accepting person should be. If you don't understand change look for good sources of information to help you move with the times, but remember acceptance of other people, new ideas and technology doesn't require understanding. When your daughter or granddaughter brings a transboy home, they don't need your labels, judgement or condemnation they need you to be their for them and to respect their love and care with your own.
@RJH755
@RJH755 10 месяцев назад
@@EcoKiwiMagazine Based and ally pilled!
@LilliMargaret
@LilliMargaret 10 месяцев назад
There are gender neutral bathrooms in many schools, bars, restaurants, public spaces and everyones personal bathroom in their house is gender neutral. I understand that not very long ago public toilets were not even gendered - in many places, only for men. Even less time ago, in many places different races couldn't share the same bathrooms. The fact that they would bother to make a policy preventing people from using the gender bathroom of choice is wild. Trans people are more likely to be the subject of assault than the assailant, statistically. Its just fear mongering from this party about people who seem "different".
@jarrodhayne560
@jarrodhayne560 11 месяцев назад
Where is the full version, not this highly censored version by state media
@1NewsNZ
@1NewsNZ 11 месяцев назад
Kia ora! You can watch the full version on TVNZ+.
@Epsilon_86
@Epsilon_86 11 месяцев назад
@@1NewsNZ Here's a suggestion, make people more aware of this free TVNZ+ so that people can see the full picture and not have their independent investigation of the truth limited by these snippets shown here.
@pankajrohaj
@pankajrohaj 10 месяцев назад
Definitely aye, and the way they keep highlighting Chloe shows the bias
@harrisoncrane4731
@harrisoncrane4731 10 месяцев назад
So by that logic, that would therefore make All Black matches censored by Sky Sport then when the highlights are uploaded to YT?
@jeebs6
@jeebs6 10 месяцев назад
“Gender identity” has gone from being well-defined to being ill-defined. A topic well-worth investigation, but one that takes us far beyond etymology.
@desmondfrost1763
@desmondfrost1763 10 месяцев назад
Desmond here the greens are living on planet mars
@IeremiaAnae-rj4pj
@IeremiaAnae-rj4pj 10 месяцев назад
Community gardens Owfallabae go ask your aunty
@haydsbeks6550
@haydsbeks6550 10 месяцев назад
Wow the greens dont like women! 😢
@hospitalcleaner
@hospitalcleaner 8 месяцев назад
Wow you've publicly come to the wrong conclusion!
@lawlife4462
@lawlife4462 10 месяцев назад
@6:55 have to agree, what a stupid question
@rodneysteele2627
@rodneysteele2627 11 месяцев назад
This has always failed The supermarkets only put up the prices
@licriss
@licriss 11 месяцев назад
Hence why you break up the ability for supermarkets to have exclusive contracts with suppliers, so other companies can participate and increase competition
@timhinchliff6362
@timhinchliff6362 11 месяцев назад
The economy is a complex system. You cannot predict what your interventions will do. You stop the contracts something else will happen that you didn't think of. The duopoly is a problem I'm just not sure what can be done in such a small market.
@stevehughes1510
@stevehughes1510 6 месяцев назад
Thank God we got the coalition following the elections last year. Youngies mostly vote Green and to a lesser degree Labour. When they grow up and have to earn a living, pay taxes etc living and working in the real world they vote for a commonsense centre right Party as happened on Oct 14th.
@sheamillsteed8300
@sheamillsteed8300 11 месяцев назад
Why doesn’t anyone bring up interest rates?
@tuivaeau
@tuivaeau 11 месяцев назад
That's for the Finance debate
@sheamillsteed8300
@sheamillsteed8300 11 месяцев назад
@@tuivaeau they don’t address it either, they didn’t even address it in the leaders debate either. It’s like a forbidden topic.
@garethdelux9266
@garethdelux9266 11 месяцев назад
The greens don't know how it would be possible to enforce the guys using the girls bathrooms. How about if the girls see a dude in their bathroom they get a teacher and then that male is warned not to use girls bathrooms by the teacher and there be some sort of consequences for his action. ....Just a thought... The greens solution would be for him to welcomed into the girls bathroom and then undergo gender reassignment surgery and take a life time worth of estrogen every week for the rest of his life, as this will allow him to feel authentic and empowered as the girl he truly is. Until he realises that he was just a political fashion victim. Chloe and the Greens believe the affirmation of a Childs gender dysphoria or current trend is more important than protecting children and woman's spaces. A vote for Greens, Labour or Te Moari is a vote for pro-transvestite ideology to be imposed on all NZ and their children.
@OldOneTooth
@OldOneTooth 11 месяцев назад
I would suggest they're pointing out the incidents of people assigned as female at birth being harrassed even beaten up because they didn't look feminine enough for transphobes. Transwomen want all women to be able to use bathrooms safely. Ciswomen want all women to be able to use bathrooms safely. All women want all women to be able to use bathrooms safely. Transphobes are scared of recognizing some people are born trans, and that being trans is not a perversion or a delusion people choose. Such a recognition doesn't fit their world view of what is right. They feel they have the right to decide others identities for them. They would like women's bathrooms to be unsafe for Transwomen because they feel unsafe accepting the possibility being born trans exists. The reality is people are born with a range of obvious and less obvious intersex conditions which develop as people mature. Men and women come in a diverse range of shapes sizes, colours, hairiness and looks. There were individuals who borderlined being able to access whites only bathrooms, so who should make the call? The individual or a self appointed bathroom police inspector? If someone is making a bathroom unsafe by their actions report them. But if it is a person's differences and presence that is upsettling to you remember Ciswomen grow beards, Ciswomen can be tall, muscled, have masectomies, strong jaws, short hair and enlarged genitals and if your actions are the ones making a bathroom unsafe, you should be the one reported. Transwomen, Ciswomen, all women, want all women to able to use bathrooms safely.
@garethdelux9266
@garethdelux9266 11 месяцев назад
The reality actually is that people are born as either male or female aside from a minute few have genetic abnormalities who are legitimate hermaphrodites. The sex of a person isn't on a scale, you may have a male who has socially feminine traits, but that doesn't make him a female nor does the amount of hair they have on their body. Being male or female isn't dictated by the mood you're in on a particular day, or the colour of your skin. The reality is alot of women don't want a dude with a dick in there changing room/ bathroom/ boxing competition/ swimming competition/ cycling competition / prison/ job.. Just because that man has gender dysphoria . Some people don't want women's lives to be negatively impacted by a few people who can't deal with there own reality or are jumping on the political/ fashion band wagon. If some guy wants to put on a dress and call himself Tina then that's fine but I think the problem is that Tina is now insisting that everyone recognises he is a woman, When the reality is he's just Dave in a dress in the wrong bathroom... @@OldOneTooth
@OldOneTooth
@OldOneTooth 11 месяцев назад
@@garethdelux9266 rather than answering your year 8 science advice with an explanation of microchimerism, epidemiological impacts on the expression of the SRY gene etc which after all is still under study. Let's keep it simple. Q: Who gets to decide your gender and how will it be enforced? How are you going to help ciswomen who look different, feel safe to use bathrooms by legalising harassing, bullying, preventing and in some cases assaulting anyone you feel doesn't look feminine enough, from using a bathroom? What is your solution, visible tattoo's, ID cards, implant chips, combined with medical certication boards who assign gender? Transwomen, ciswomen all women want to be able to use bathrooms safely. When you attack some women's rights to do so others women's rights will be breeched, because rights are indivisible, they are shared not scared. Why not campaign on modernising bathrooms so all women feel safe from attack by any man or woman who wants to use them instead of attacking one group of women with an unworkable policy that could never be safely policed? Sure women will have to queue less, men queue more if all spaces are gender neutral, but everyone will feel safe. You may not accept transpeople exist, but plenty of us, that know them do. One lovely lady was even my MP. Oh and about 1 in 200 are born different.
@garethdelux9266
@garethdelux9266 11 месяцев назад
It sounds like you're saying that women who have masculine features might be stopped from using female spaces...I think that's very unlikely, and I reckon they'd be happy to take one for the team. Unlike Dave. But I guess if you're fortunate enough to look and act like a woman when you're using their spaces then that's your good fortune. And I guess if you get to a certain age in life and you don't know what sex you are then you're likely either a hermaphrodite (which you would already know) or in need of some type of help. The argument for transvestite's is very very complicated; Which is normally suggests something is being built on deception or in this case nonsense.. In your previous comment you alluded to non pro trans people (feminists) being on par with racists. The classic pro trans go to. And now you're trying to align the trans cause with the Jewish plight in fascist Germany. Which is pretty insulting to the Jewish community. The irony is that never since Nazi Germany has such a deluded mob mentality, combined with an attempt to shut down speech taken over. That's right, girlfriend, I said it, The left are the new Nazis... As for the vaccine passports ..oops I mean the tattoos and microchips and ID cards we'll leave that to the Greens and Labour. I noticed they're big fans. By the way I don't know if you've heard but the Jewish society of NZ and AUS has requested that people stop calling people Fascist when they're not actually Fascists. So don't go there... I know you've been taught to... but resist.. but I guess If Dave can call himself Tina then you can call me whatever you like... but I'll keep in mind it will likely mean the opposite. You also mentioned trans people being attacked, But the only people I've seen being attacked are women who wanted to hear other women talk at Albert park, a small group of women being attacked by a 3000 strong mob, then those attackers (men in skirts) then being glamorized by the press. and Oh yeah that poor American swimmer who was forced to hide in a room whilst the trans community tried to extort money out of her... or ... about a quadzillian other examples of trans activists being violent to anyone opposing their ideology. I guess that what people want in politicians is the ability to be able to display that they are truthful, rational and reasonable. Which I guess is why Labour and the Greens are polling so lowly. @@OldOneTooth​
@jayja3618
@jayja3618 11 месяцев назад
if you actually cared about the safety of women and children you would know the horrifically high suicide rates amongst young queer people. The bathroom debate is about trying to reduce the suicide rate and anyone who says that preventing trans rights is for safety is only doing it for controll. The statistics around young transgender people paints a very clear picture and to prevent them from living fullfilling lives when doing so clearly spikes the suicide rates is actively investing in the death of young people. Where is the safety in that.
@tinaaroha8205
@tinaaroha8205 11 месяцев назад
Go Lee, tell them WOKE how it is.
@IeremiaAnae-rj4pj
@IeremiaAnae-rj4pj 10 месяцев назад
Aye yous rangatahi grab a spade
@desmondfrost1763
@desmondfrost1763 10 месяцев назад
Desmond here is why is close screaming at everyone how old is she she is acting as a school girl we need to get rid of close swarm brick
@realJesseGray
@realJesseGray 11 месяцев назад
Whens the males debate? 😅
@freezing5
@freezing5 10 месяцев назад
If landlords sell, there won't be less houses. There will be MORE homes to buy.
@scipioafricanus4328
@scipioafricanus4328 11 месяцев назад
Green Party rent cap is intellectually shallow, first order thinking. Yes rents don’t rise, but international experience is if landlords can’t cover their costs they won’t build new houses entals and will sell the rentals they do own. The problem is lack of housing which in a free market can only be addressed by either limiting immigration or building more homes.
@TheMntnG
@TheMntnG 11 месяцев назад
landlords dont build houses. in switzerland, rent controls make rents decrease, the only way out of this is build new apartments
@scipioafricanus4328
@scipioafricanus4328 11 месяцев назад
@@TheMntnG some housing is being built sold for rental investment. Rent control appears to help affordability in the short run for current tenants only, but in the long-run decreases affordability. in USA to encourage housebuilding the government had to allow exemptions for new builds from rent controls.
@TheMntnG
@TheMntnG 11 месяцев назад
@@scipioafricanus4328 yeah, usa is the worst example to follow. look at germany
@OldOneTooth
@OldOneTooth 11 месяцев назад
And that means less demand for houses so instead of an ever rising target people can actually afford to buy or build their own house. Housing isn't an investment opportunity but a social good. For people looking for a for ever home rising prices just means rising insurance and rates. People shouldn't be building to make speculative returns. If you own ten houses you're keeping 9 families from owning a home.
@TheMntnG
@TheMntnG 11 месяцев назад
@@OldOneTooth in switzerland, 70% of people rent for life. its also the richest country per person 🤷🏻‍♂️ in germany, some people have their contract from the 1970s and still pay the same rent (because increases are not legal). they have no housing shortage 🤷🏻‍♂️
@trevorvanherrden8290
@trevorvanherrden8290 10 месяцев назад
National have no clue
@gurlm90
@gurlm90 10 месяцев назад
Good on Lee..Voting NZ F🥳
@yesterday1396
@yesterday1396 11 месяцев назад
I'm glad that terf got called out for the nonsense he was saying.
@DGoldy303
@DGoldy303 11 месяцев назад
Vote Green!!!
@Blue_Soul_Slayer
@Blue_Soul_Slayer 11 месяцев назад
It's such a shame. This is going to be hard for me to decide where I put my votes for. I personally think that Rainbow Rights isn't important and is just a distraction and a waste of time. I don't have anything against them. As long as they don't go overboard on what they decide what to like. I'd prefer the people to think about cost of living and climate change and health like dental checkups and so on. Seriously, would you rather: Let people have laws and create a world with toilets for every gender and more nonsense like that? OR Focus on currently cost of living and food on the table or prevention and solutions to climate change? I agree with the Kenya President. This topic isn't important and is not a major issue. If becoming gay or lgbqt or if they have some kind of secret way of making life better, sure by all means let me know. Otherwise, i'm going to logically prioritize real issues, like cost of living (eg food, gas, housing, etc) and climate change.
@TheMntnG
@TheMntnG 11 месяцев назад
so you vote green? distractions aside, they have a plan for the economy
@reasonablearticalo
@reasonablearticalo 11 месяцев назад
Imagine if someone told you that heterosexual rights were just a distraction and a waste of time.
@5arsedmonkey1
@5arsedmonkey1 11 месяцев назад
What a set up, where were the greens,national, act young party members. What a joke the only ones that made any sense were nz1st, national. And why were we subjected to race comments are we not all New Zealanders, to much division in this country, no wonder we are losing so many of our people to other countries. Our country is in a sorry state financially,has anyone thought of politicians taking a pay cut, 120 seats in parliament,take 50,000 off each ,do the math,back benchers would still take home around $90,000 a year still which is a pretty good wage for anyone, we wonder why we are financially in the shit, well there is one way out of it
@user-ur5bp8is2l
@user-ur5bp8is2l 11 месяцев назад
NZ Loyal 1% Transactional Tax, every new Zealander will be in a better position. Mum's could stay home again with their wee ones ❤
@emmamarlenesoutham
@emmamarlenesoutham 11 месяцев назад
they hve 3 mps, not ever enough for if they get a seat to fill it in parliament. you are wasting your vote
@reasonablearticalo
@reasonablearticalo 11 месяцев назад
This is the young voters' debate. As if young people would ever vote for an anti-trans, anti-planet party polling at 1%. Frankly, no-one should be, but us especially.
@user-ur5bp8is2l
@user-ur5bp8is2l 11 месяцев назад
@@reasonablearticalo who even knows if the 1% is even factual. We were told that 95% had been vaccinated, the statistics actually determined it was 80%.
@user-ur5bp8is2l
@user-ur5bp8is2l 11 месяцев назад
@@emmamarlenesoutham a vote for change, complete change from the last 80 plus years, isn't a wasted vote. Voting for the same muppets, all 120 seats included, is a wasted vote in my mind.
@reasonablearticalo
@reasonablearticalo 11 месяцев назад
Rainbow rights.
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