Hiking Flatiron & Hill 5024 by the Siphon Draw Trail - Superstition Wilderness, Arizona

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Hiking Flatiron & Hill 5024 by the Siphon Draw Trail - Superstition Wilderness, Arizona
The Flatiron is widely known as the toughest hike in the Phoenix area. At 6 miles and almost 3,000' of elevation gain, it's definitely not easy.
So I had to hike it.
It's been years that I've wanted to do this hike and for one reason or another I haven't done it yet. Well, this was finally my day. To avoid the crowds, I went first thing in the morning on a weekday. Flatiron / Siphon Draw are very popular and therefore often crowded. Off peak times are recommended if you want some solitude.
So I started hiking and a couple hours later I was at the top of Flatiron, looking up at Hill 5024, thinking 'why not'? Hill 5024 is a few hundred feet more elevation gain and it offers full 36 degree views of the surrounding area. You can see Flatiron, Siphon Draw, Weaver's Needle, Four Peaks and, on a clear day, even Picketpost. Might as well plan to make it part of your hike since you're already so close.
For views and bragging rights, this hike is tough to beat if you're in Phoenix.
Anyway, that's that. Flatiron & Hill 5024 via the Siphon Draw trail is now moved from my "to do" list to my "done" list.

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@rexbrowning1436 3 года назад

Did this hike about a month a go with my 10 year old daughter I was impressed she made it , she even did the bonus hike to 5024, it amazing the power of using Dairy Queen as a motivator. Great videos keep it up

@JerryArizona 3 года назад

10 years old? That's impressive. Flatiron is rough. 5024, even moreso (but worth the views.....and the ice cream.)

@brianmorgan4242 2 года назад

This is the humbling experience. You think in your mind it's an extremely hard hike,and your a hiking warrior. Then you see little kids at the top playing. Motivation comes in many ways. Use it to your advantage.

@frankattanucci6748 Год назад

My friend, Jim, and I hiked to Flatiron via Siphon Draw on Saturday, Nov. 12, 2022. It was the first time for me, the second time for Jim. He tried to tell me: "The best part of the hike is when it's over." I had no idea what to expect and was surprised by the amount of scrambling one has to do and the long sections where "the trail" (if you can call it that) is quite steep. Fortunately, when you're climbing up the "more vertical" parts, it's not too hard to find rocks to grip and places to step. While I was concerned about how the trip down would be, I found it to be easier simply because seeing a path ahead on the way down was easier and because I resolved to "sit down and scooch" (and use a lot of arms) when things "got vertical." Our motto was: "Slow and steady and safe." (At our ages, 63 and 66, respectively, the body takes longer to heal/recover.) It was a great experience and I certainly had a sense of accomplishment when it was over. Jerry's excellent video gives a representative sampling of the challenges that are found on this tough trail. It's more than just "a walk in the park"! Happy trails!

@JerryArizona Год назад

Glad you guys made it! It's a rough hike, but you forget how hard it is when you finally get level with flatiron and start taking in the views. If you liked this, I recommend checking out Boulder Canyon trail. Great views. You can even see flatiron off in the distance. (And it's not nearly as difficult.)

@pamhoots6819 3 года назад

Thank you for all your videos. I've got weak legs and arthritis in my hips. I know that these are hikes I couldn't do. But I really like your videos. Thanks again!

@coyoteserranoband 3 месяца назад

Favorite afternoon summer hike

@bro7269 Год назад

I just did this hike yesterday 5/4/23 and I can definitely say it’s difficult. Hopefully you’re not hiking trails like this if you have knee problems but coming down is tougher than going up AFAIC. I did South Kaibab way past skeleton point on Tuesday with pretty much no issues. I did Flatiron on Friday. My quads are pretty wrecked today (Sat).

@laurnaskeate9352 4 года назад

I love seeing people especially women like myself ( a woman ) coming in here to hike this wearing flip flops ( I do not wear flip flops). They change into what looks to be brand new hikers. Excited about trying this hike. Few miles in they are coming back out with bum ankles. People please work yourselves up to a climb like this. Get your legs and ankles accustomed to the movements. Search and Rescue teams aren't free.

@JerryArizona 4 года назад

Yeah. I've seen plenty of people out there unprepared. Then again, when I was starting out, I was the one people were looking at and shaking their heads. When I did this (and Ridgline) with my wife, there was a rescue right toward the top of Flatiron. Luckily, I don't think it was too serious.

@roderichroby9078 3 года назад

Bring mole foam.

@Thebestegg123 4 года назад

I did this hike this morning with 2 of my friends at 5:30am and we got about 3 miles in and already me & 1 of my friend mess up our ankle. We had to go back. I love that u were determined that’s awesome & all by yourself👏🏻 flat iron won today but we are going back to accomplish it another time.

@n-power-automotive 3 года назад

I made a video of this exact hike over a decade ago. It’s one of the hardest but most rewarding hikes in the Phoenix valley. I loved hiking it because there was hardly anyone else on the trail and you could always tell where you are because of the unrestricted views down from where you came from. I miss AZ hiking so much!

@hunterswencki110 3 месяца назад

Did this hike around a year ago and it ended up pouring rain on our way up and while getting down but it was still one of the best hikes i’ve done

@JerryArizona 3 месяца назад

It's a great hike. Bet Siphon Draw was slick in the rain.

@robhebbs7960 4 года назад

I dont know if it does any good to comment on such a old video but i just found it looking through your library. I hiked that hike to around the same time of year last year. But i put it off till i was 68 years old. I was glad to here your knees were sore because i was cramping like a mother on the way down of the last mile. It was so worth it. i look up there now and say wow .

@JerryArizona 4 года назад

I still see the comments! Yeah, that hike is killer on the knees, but the views are worth it.

@robav8or 13 дней назад

Great trail! I used to hike it in the mid 80’s when there were no crowds. In the trail north of Siphon Draw there were remnants of a T-38 crash I once found.

@JerryArizona 12 дней назад

Looked around and couldn't find anything about that crash. I wonder if they cleared it out. Ironically, just published a video on the B24 crash on Humphreys tonight.

@robav8or 12 дней назад

@@JerryArizona They didn’t clear it out. Over time pieces and parts were taken down by hikers. I brought down some engine parts as I was a T-38 engine mechanic at the time. The story about the crash is that a foriegn student was being radar vectored at night and flew into the Superstitions.

@papajon62 3 года назад

Another great hike! Love your humor

@libertyvilleguy2903 6 месяцев назад

Hiked this today (3/14/24). Quite challenging, and much more of a climb than a hike. Had to work hard to hold my fear of heights in check. Views from the top were stunning. By far the most challenging hike I’ve done here in central Arizona.

@PlanwithJohn 2 месяца назад

Trained on that hike while living at lost Dutchman when first coming to Phoenix.. ended up getting my time down to 69min from gate to summit back to gate. The only run that really gives you increased grade, from flat, all the way to climbing straight up at the end! After the “chute” or what what I call the slick rock portion, Just don’t go into the wash to the right.. stick to the left. Many get lost in the wash because it looks like the trail.

@tkondaks 3 года назад

15 years ago, you used to be able to park right by the trailhead but they renovated the park and now the parking area is at least a quarter mile from the trailhead. Adds to an already tough hike.

@tesla82111 11 месяцев назад

Quarter mile? That’s a warm up

@sfar-gaminglounge1563 4 года назад

Amazing hike, great day hike. The most memorable time that I have hiked this was when a big storm came through and left snow on the Mountain. My friends and I hiked it and played in the snow. Crazy to think that snow appears and stays in Mesa during the winter under the right conditions ! Been loving your videos.

@JerryArizona 4 года назад

I've seen footage of people climbing it in the snow. That would be awesome. Slippery, I imagine, but awesome too.

@karenflores4987 5 лет назад

Im glad you made this video, Ive been wanting to hike the Superstitions for a while now and did not know what trail to start and most videos as not as descriptive as yours

@JerryArizona 5 лет назад

Not sure what your experience level is, but this one is one of the toughest (maybe #2 behind Ridgeline which I have not done) hikes in the Supt's. If you're looking for a challenge, go for it; this is THE Superstition hike for that. Peralta is very straightforward and less challenging (but still not easy.) Great views of Weaver's Needle from the saddle off Peralta. I always recommend Boulder Canyon trail. Still my favorite. It starts at Canyon Lake. Personally, I don't think there are better views in the Sup's. I have a video of that too, although it isn't as descriptive as this one. Can't really go wrong with any of those.

@karenflores4987 5 лет назад

@@JerryArizona I have done Wilson Mountain trail twice in Sedona and Humprey's peak, so intermediate? Thank you for the recomendations, I just finished watching your other Sup video and that trail looks amazing!

@JerryArizona 5 лет назад

@@karenflores4987 if you've done Wilson and Humphrey's, you won't have any problems with Flatiron.

@HailPatrick 6 месяцев назад

My Son is goin today. Thanks for the tips

@JerryArizona 6 месяцев назад

Hope he enjoyed. It's a challenging but fun hike with some amazing views.

@Jasondeheus 3 года назад

Lol 😂 this was great man. Just hiked this. Should have watched this first!

@lloyd8043 3 года назад

You're a machine! Really enjoying your vids...

@Michael-xo8lw 3 года назад

That looked positively brutal.

@JerryArizona 3 года назад

Check out the Ridgeline. You hike Flatiron to START that hike. It nearly killed my wife and I.

@davidrivera4455 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing Brother

@InlikeMikeQuinn 4 года назад

Great video!

@lisamedlyn3818 2 года назад

This video is super helpful. I am doing this hike next month.

@phillivingston8237 2 года назад

There are three ways to make the final ascent. I use the middle one using the tree branch for balance. The one on the right is a difficult hand over foot climb. I did use that on my first climb, I was much younger. I had heard of a third way but have not tried it. The final ascent is the main attraction. I found it easier to go up than to go down. It is an amazing hike. Ghank you for sharing your perspective.

@JerryArizona 2 года назад

I screw up and go to the right every time. At least that's where I think I end up. I have a bad habit of looking down and forward and just going with it.

@phillivingston8237 2 года назад

@@JerryArizona No problem. There is always more than one path to trod.

@NickandRachel 5 лет назад

Ain't too early for a beautiful hike!

@JerryArizona 5 лет назад

I need a lot of coffee and some prodding to get going. Not much of a morning person. But sometimes you have to do what you have to do.

@HOMETHEATERBOY 4 года назад

Great video been trying to explain to my friends the hike me and my wife did now I can show them we tried to go to flat iron twice so far the first time we made it 70% of the way this is in the middle the night with high powered flashlights very beautiful at night the second time we made it 90% of the way and my right knee started telling me it wasn’t happy didn’t want to take any chances of injuring it so I ordered a knee brace and will attempt in a few more weeks Best time to go is at night during the hot months Bring lots of water medical kit and Beef jerky and high powered flashlight and be careful watch out for scorpions.

@JerryArizona 4 года назад

Going down Flatiron is no joke. My knees KILLED on the way down. It took me longer to get down than to get up. My wife and I did Ridgeline a couple months later and opted to go up Flatiron and down Carney Springs just because it was so brutal. (We also saw a rescue near the top of Flatiron from someone who slipped and was injured.)

@jimdesiderati7126 3 года назад

Thanks for making this! Back when I was hiking it (Previdhistoric), all I had were little Kodak Panoramic 1 & Done types! There was an old fuselage from a small plane buck then but I didn't see it in your vid. Maybe they removed it since the 80's.

@JerryArizona 3 года назад

Not sure. I always wonder how we used to take pictures without being able to fix them in photoshop. I remember dropping them off at a 1 hour photo and you had NO idea what you were going to get.

@jimdesiderati7126 3 года назад

@@JerryArizona I have thousands of WTF's in a box that I still can't identify!

@donaldking8288 3 года назад

Would be cool to see superstition mountains, cool video, thanks 😊

@JerryArizona 3 года назад

Check out the videos I have up of Boulder Canyon, Ridgeline & Battleship Mountain. The Superstitions are incredible.

@harirao12345 4 года назад

Man you made it look like a piece of cake

@judyyoung4125 3 года назад

Went up it in Jan. 1998 with a bad knee. I almost needed to call the rangers to come and get me a mile out of the park in the dark. My knee was so swollen I had to wear shorts the next day.

@nealmacdonald9896 Год назад

Even just one trekking pole or long stick helps take up the strain on your knees going downhill.

@ericjay6021 2 года назад

Great trail. I was there this morning but I'm novice so I stopped at the basin. Maybe I'll make it up further another time.

@JerryArizona 2 года назад

Work your way up! Peralta, Piestawa, Camelback, Boulder Canyon.....Flatiron is tough if you're just starting out. Took me a while to work up to this one, for sure.

@ericjay6021 2 года назад

@@JerryArizona Peralta Trail. Was that what used to be willow canyon?

@JupiterNeptun1579 6 месяцев назад

Hmmm I did hiked the Superstion halfway through but my exhusband decided to go home. I been saying before I turn 40 I need to hike it but I have no luck nobody want to hiked with me but I hiked Grand Canyon all the way to Phantom Ranch twice and halfway to Marvins Garden.

@wayneburdick2129 Год назад

I miss hiking in the Superstition Mountains

@JerryArizona Год назад

The Supes are awesome. I'm really lucky they're basically my backyard.

@X_explorer 4 года назад

Good video!

@matthewsresilientways 5 лет назад

It doesn't look like it's that far away. Just around the next bend, I'm sure. :) But seriously, spectacular view.

@JerryArizona 5 лет назад

My wife & I did the Kalalau trail a couple years ago. It was up and down over all these 'fingers' where the coast goes into the ocean. I kept saying "It's gotta be just around this finger." It's our inside joke now in every hike we do. Flatiron definitely had a lot of those moments. The view, especially from 5024, was definitely worth it though.

@bradybankson6193 Год назад

Dude… late to the party here. Excellent vid. Inspired to do it again. Reach out if you’d like some better tequila recommendations. Cheers!

@JerryArizona Год назад

I generally go cheap with my liquor selections since I have horrible taste in alcohol and have a tendency to mix it with stuff like dehydrated margarita mix or Crystal Lite.....I'd be ashamed, but I'm too old and set in my ways to be ashamed.

@chibro44 5 лет назад

Sick hike! Next time, look around for Spanish gold!

@richardhelit3840 3 года назад

Good climb

@abbybear1996 4 года назад

Alright! A plan for this weekend! ❤️☺️ Hopefully it's open 🤞🤞🤞

@lonewolfoffroading8675 4 года назад

I would love to do this hike.but its to dame hot in the summer time.i think ill plan a hike this winter

@JerryArizona 4 года назад

Definitely want to do this one when it's cooler. And even then, I prefer to start early.

@phxrsx 4 года назад

Someone should mark some chalk on the trail. So many people have gotten lost going up there.

@Hydrogenatoms 11 месяцев назад

A 5,059 ft mountain is insane crap ton of people go missing and die there legend says that due to how many people died here and gone missing the superstitions had a hell hole that led straight to hell

@ThurroAlexander Год назад

Digging the video broski! 🤙🤙🤙

@AlejandrosAdventures 5 лет назад

Oh yay you did it by far one of my favorites here in the valley nice video my friend

@JerryArizona 5 лет назад

Thanks. That hike was tough, for sure. But beautiful.

@brianmorgan4242 2 года назад

Trail running shoes seem to be a lot easier in this cause of the angle on the way up. I couldn't imagine wearing mid to high hiking boots. It would work against you on the angles.

@JerryArizona 2 года назад

I've been hiking almost exclusively in Altra Olympus lately. Great, light shoe.

@ovherlander 5 лет назад

Oh, goody-goody! The weather is cooling which means it’s HIKING SEASON again for me! Thanks, as always, for the humor and inspiration. BTW... are you going to say more about that new toy?

@JerryArizona 5 лет назад

Man! You have to figure places that you can do year round. My wife and I just got our cold weather backpacking kit down this year finally. Summer time just go north or someplace with water and shade like Aravaipa. I get cranky when I can't get outside.

@JerryArizona 5 лет назад

And the new 'toy' is an Insta360 Go. I'm a little bit of a gear fiend. It's a super tiny stabilized camera, like a GoPro but smaller. Been playing around with it this past weekend some more. It's fun for capturing stuff you normally wouldn't. One of these days I hope to make a video on my video gear.

@denimacaz 5 лет назад

Jerry Arizona oh, I know! I have a serious problem with heat and unfortunately I’m not able to backpack, just day hike. But I spent this summer “modifying” my little suv into what I call my trailhead sleeper. That way I can head for the hills for a good day hike and not have to worry about driving home when I’m tired, I can just pull off to spend the night and drive home in the morning 😉 I’m getting this AZ thing figured out!

@denimacaz 5 лет назад

Jerry Arizona awesome, thanks!

@ovherlander 5 лет назад

Hahaha! Being logged into the wrong account can be confusing.

@chingly4006 9 месяцев назад

Where good hiking shoes that can take a beating.

@MonicaSĪGÑofJõñãhYUNIS 2 года назад

This is great! Tequila though~ you're in JINN territory! Ha! 🤣🤦🏼‍♀️

@JerryArizona 2 года назад

Nothing like a little tequila at 10AM.....

@MonicaSĪGÑofJõñãhYUNIS 2 года назад

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@CarlosGonzalez-jz9uu Год назад

Good job with the tequila 🤙🏼

@JerryArizona Год назад

Packit Gourmet margarita mix is a constant on our hikes.

@peterschorn1 11 месяцев назад

Good advice: if you find Karens, always pick the path of least resistance.

@thomassanio8745 2 года назад

Ok so how did you get up that narrow and steep chute above the Siphon with a 35 lb pack in your back Jerry? Did you take it off and then pull it up with a rope? Also how did you get back down? Went as far as that chute Saturday AM and was confounded on how I would get t back down it. Great vids as always👍 Thanks. Tom

@JerryArizona 2 года назад

Siphon Draw? The section where the rock is slick? I just walked up it....carefully and slowly. Good shoes with grippy soles helps. Going down is hard on the knees, for sure. And I went REALLY slow. I don't want to think about it wet. It is slick enough when it's dry.

@EvergreenFilmsAZ 5 лет назад

I've always driven by that mountain and wondered what the views would be from the top. Didn't disappoint. Still on my bucket list of to-do. Did you come across any snakes?

@JerryArizona 5 лет назад

Tina Boyer it’s super intimidating driving up. But just one step at a time. Didn’t see any snakes. I’ve only seen one poisonous one in all my years of hiking. Actually didn’t even see that one. I stepped tight over it while it was rattling and my wife asked me a couple dozen steps down the trail ‘why didn’t you walk around the rattlesnake?’

@HOMETHEATERBOY 4 года назад

Last week there was a guy on his way down from flatiron he saw a large rattlesnake on our way up there when we were climbing at night we saw three scorpions next time I’m going to wear gloves at night because I almost touched one my wife saved me 😂

@MountainTopHomestead316 5 лет назад

Image is looking super crisp man, good video 👌 we call going up paying off the credit card.

@JerryArizona 5 лет назад

Mountain Top Adventures thanks man. Looks like you guys are seeing plenty of stuff too. Your goal is all the national parks, right? We just got back from petrified forest today. SO much cooler than what I was expecting.

@MountainTopHomestead316 5 лет назад

@@JerryArizona yes that is our goal, petrified forest is awesome. Only problem was wife wouldn't let me take any home, or maybe that was the ranger 🤔 lol

@JerryArizona 5 лет назад

If you guys didn't do Blue Forest Trail, you need to go back. We attempted it, but the wind gusts were so bad, they nearly blew us off the ridgeline and we had to turn back. We're going back just for that. I expected "rocks that used to be trees", but the badlands blew us away. (Almost literally.)

@lorenzbroll101 3 года назад

Well done _ did you find any gold though?

@JerryArizona 3 года назад

Unfortunately, no...

@markmlinar1511 3 года назад

@@JerryArizona Not all that glitters is gold.

@erikagaither633 4 года назад

woah you did good

@bobandleannvalenti247 3 года назад

Like the video...don't be negative

@JerryArizona 3 года назад

I complain a lot while hiking uphill. It's just part of the process for me. Sometimes I forget it may come across as negative in the videos, but it's not really. I wouldn't keep going back and doing this stuff if I really hated it.

@ofk2339 Год назад

What’s that little camera you used?

@JerryArizona Год назад

That's an Insta360 Go. They have a Go 2 out now. It's an interesting camera, but pretty gimmicky. To be honest, I barely use it. Just not up to the quality I can get from my GoPros.

@OntarioHikingTrails 5 лет назад

Dude you missed the sunrise. You didn't get up early enough

@JerryArizona 5 лет назад

I'm going to say sunsets are more awesome...mainly because I can sleep in.

@07wrxtr1 4 года назад

@@JerryArizona I'm wondering if the smart move is to get a 3am start as light hits by 5am?

@fastfridaysfacts3694 3 года назад

Did you run up on any snakes on the way?

@JerryArizona 3 года назад

I've only seen one rattlesnake over the years that I've been hiking. None in the superstitions yet, although they're out there. Other snakes? I've seen plenty of non-venomous ones.

@davidgray5776 4 года назад

Al Senner did that on horseback with a mule in tow.

@JerryArizona 4 года назад

Crazy what they used to take pack animals on. Spencer Trail at Lee's Ferry apparently was another one I couldn't imagine a mule on, but they did it.

@joshuamazzola9697 2 года назад

Jerry, went up last year and struggled to find the route up to 5024 after heading left/up at the break with the FI trail at the top. Any suggestions on where to head to find it better? Headed back up this weekend.

@JerryArizona 2 года назад

I may be too late, but my GPS says the trail branches off right at 33.43864, -111.43864. Another point slightly up the trail is 33.43891, -111.45011. Mark those on the GPS and hopefully you can piece it together. It's faint. I lost it coming down and was going off trail, but just picked my way through as best I could and it worked out. Hopefully that helps.

@joshuamazzola9697 2 года назад

@@JerryArizona found it this time around! Thanks, jerry. The trail to 5024 seemed a bit more 'manicured'this time up!

@JerryArizona 2 года назад

@@joshuamazzola9697 awesome. The views are definitely worth the little bit of extra effort.

@JeffJefferson464 Год назад

Did you shoot tequila at the top?

@JerryArizona Год назад

I would never do anything that irresponsible! I may have had a couple margaritas up there though.....

@richardhelit3840 3 года назад

CBC

@alexsupremewolf 3 года назад

Easy hike.

@alexsupremewolf 3 года назад

Up and down in 2 hours 19 minutes.

@carlosromeroable 3 года назад

What kind a camera 🎥 you have?

@JerryArizona 3 года назад

This was all GoPro Hero 8 Black. Sometimes I use a Canon EOS R (but it's heavy, so it gets left behind a lot.) I have a GoPro Hero 9 Black now, which I absolutely love. Perfected a couple minor flaws on the 8.

@carlosromeroable 3 года назад

@@JerryArizona thanks, love every video you guys make, you guys are mi inspiration , God Bless you🙏🏻🙏🏻