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Technically not FE, but you guys should look up the recruitment requirements of that one elusive cleric in TearRingSaga (forgot her name). They're more complicated and puzzling than all the recruitments in this video combined. Just further proof that Kaga is a sadist.
The story goes his entire character stemmed from the fact that during development and testing, when play testing that chapter nobody recruited him because they genuinely didn't notice him.
@@Mellion555 Even better, randomly lances just disappear from your convoy, along with a Bronze Axe and a Master Seal around Chapter 13 or so. He keeps taking better and better weapons throughout the game and his stats grow to match his increasing levels, until eventually he starts taking your Gradivus, Armads, etc.
I want to give a shout-out to Virion who just starts randomly showing up and hitting on Sully in the middle of a forest fire and zombie invasion, and then just sticks around the Shepherds for 11 chapters before revealingwhat his actual deal is two years later.
@@alexread6767 Even funnier he was a Duke of a nation that fell to Walhart, he just so happen to come across the Shepherds and courted Sully out of nowhere.
...Remember that time Gaius broke into the Halidom of Ylisse with the full intent to loot the place and unwittingly assassinate Emmeryn, but decided to switch sides cuz Chrom gave him some Snickers?
God this was so dumb. I actually killed him the first time I played Awakening. He suicided during the enemy phase and I didn't notice it due to the skip button. Didn't realize he would be the only thief before Anna.
well he was perfectly willing to switch sides, he was trying to get a bribe out of Chrom first (remember Gaius is actually kinda poor, if he can get something out of a bad deal he'll take it). He just settled for candy because its his vice.
Imagine training, living with, and fighting for months (if not years) alongside Roger, finally getting deployed with your friend, only to be literally stabbed in the back because a cute girl talked to him for a minute.
Generic Enemy 1: Roger, what are you doing? I thought we were soulmates, together in the path of the knight! Roger:Sorry but... I found love brother, I must go Generic Enemy One: Noooo!!! Why God Whyyy!!!!! Archer 1: Are you freaking serious??? I'M GONNA GET STABBED BY A FUCKING LANCE BECAUSE ONE OF MY COMRADES DECIDED TO BELIEVE IN THE ENEMY'S WORDS????
Nyx is a great character, but her recruitment makes no sense at all. She wants to be alone so she starts fighting on the battlefield as a green unit until you talk to her and convince her to join you for really no reason.
Eh Nyx isn't that bad. She was found in a huge fight so she joined your side to keep herself and your side alive. Once the battle ends they insist she stays and she doesn't want to fight over it. Remember Corrin think's she's a kid at first and they were on a war, she was probably dragged along until she just decided to stay.
@@sansnom5269 Nyx isn't messed up! Not even Tharja is "messed up" she just completely lacks social competence and is extremely awkward (in Japanese at least). She is more designed to be the "socially awkward goth girl" character. If I remember correctly, not even Henry was that messed up in Japanese, he was a good dude.
@Zxylo 5 I can remember when we had Sophia and Canas who went out of their way to risk their lives to do good things. And one of them certainly paid for the risk.
@@shinobu3617 Tharja literally uses her daughter as her guinea pig. As result, her daughter is constantly flipping between shy and angry. I would call that insane. Same for Henry, who admits to enjoy watching others suffers, and using the dark arts for personal gain.
I thought about who could also be on this list, but I realized Henry (my favorite Awakening character) actually has a great motive. He wants to kill people, the Shepherds have less troops, so if he joins the Shepherds, he gets to kill more people.
Henry was always a pretty based guy. I always loved how his goofy smile and positive attitude had a menacing quality to it. Kinda like Yes Man from New Vegas in a weird way.
@@samvanderstaak7296 I said Garon because the whole backstory for Nohr, specifically the Concubine Wars, was because Garon loved so many women & refused to choose one even though he had a wife. Plus, I didn't want to just list off characters already mentioned in the video. Homer probably makes more sense than Virion, though. Virion's more full of himself than an outright perv, while Homer cared more about drinking & Nanna than his city that was under attack.
I know FE3H didn't exactly have recruitments during wartime, but can we appreciate that units you recruit during school phase always can be re-recruited during war phase? And their reasons are "yo, you were that one teacher I had for _one year,_ you're worth betraying my allies for!"
Lorenz just wants to be important, and Ashe probably realizes that there is literally no reason for him to be fighting when he sees who he’s up against
@@Edgeperor Tbh Lorenz is pretty reasonable. He left after the timeskip to show loyalty to the empire since the empire is literally next to his house's territory and after your army conqured the great bridge, you showed him that there's no need to side with the empire anymore and the tides has been turned. Ashe however, for some reason, went back to the kingdom, even though he doesn't need to. Unlike Lorenz where the empire is right at his door step Ashe has nothing to do with the dukedom since he's a commoner and he could just move his family to the monastery and fight with you. But he didn't.
@@naiRISE766 Actually Ashe isn't a commoner after Lonato's death as apparently all his children died and Ashe is the one to inherit Lonato's house and status.
@@vanjagalovic3621 Yeah, I think that is possible but the way he appears at Aliel doesn't convince me that he became a lord tbh. He's just there with 2 other archers on the frontline near your starting point. If he were to became a lord shouldn't he be next to Gwendel as a commander of the troop? It feels like he's just another soldier there
I'm fairly certain it's less them betraying their army and more eo byleth taking pity on his old students and them either being moved by his mercy or feeling they don't have a choice because the other option is death.
How to cure boredom: Step 1: Join a war you know nothing about. (For best results pick a side at random) Step 2: Fight until you die or get bored again. Step 3: Repeat.
@@shinobu3617 let count who Cadea get recruits Castor Navarre Roger Jake (although she made him remeber he learned what his girlfriend wanted) And possible Lorenz if you dont have Marth do it
Sylvain joining the empire does make sense considering how much he hates crests and the noble lifestyle in general so I could see him fighting to abolish it. Of course him initially joining because f!byleth is hot does make it look kinda dumb.
Honestly, it's a better reason than any of the others joining because you have taught yourself a little white magic (even if they were already in Manuella's class before). I'm also not too fond of the change that people you fight against after the time skip can't be talked down. You have to defeat them, whereupon they will survive the Meteor to the face only if they attended your class some time ago.
I think the best part is that Caeda DEFINITELY manipulated him there. She was intentionally going "oh, hey, he looks like someone I can trick!" There's a reason Warriors makes a point to mention just how important to the war she was. And Roger is the prime example of why.
@Black Star - Pavel Gaius at least joined because he wasn't about killing people. Validar omitted the assassination bit of the plot, and Gaius DID NOT like that. The candy just... Sweetened the deal. ...I swear, that was unintentional...
WHAT? You never was living your life and then you're teleported to an altar you never seem and then they tell you that you will need to fight a war, or just DIE so they can give your weapon to another person? It's so normal...
Theres some implication from all the villains and the story that the summoners weapon makes anyone summoned be your ally, which is why Valter has yet to impale anyone on his lance.
Hey beach babe wanna fight in my army? No you don't need to change clothes! Hello literal child. Wanna fight in a war? Hey! Nice towel! Changing? Nah you don't need to do that just throw buckets at them!
what's your favorite idea? Generic 1- Let's get some leaves and sticks turn it into your favorite colour! Generic 2- Red -sus- Generic 3- Blue Generic 4- Green!! Anna- What did you say you little sh**
It was the whole reason. Yes he didnt want to be part of the murderers and he thought it was a simple break in get stuff mission. But he could have gone home. Wich he would have done, if Chrom would have dropped his candy in that moment. Thats the reason, a petty little thief decided, "fck everything, im going to risk my life for that mans war, beacase his sister provides Candy. Nice"
@@niemehrcdu380 In the manga, I think it had something to do with protecting Maribell as well, but I can't remember for sure. There's also the Drama CD for Awakening too.
@@kendjacedric8813 It kinda makes sense, but that is impossible to guess without a guide (or by pure "accident", since Shinon's personality really suck)
Talking with Rolf would’ve been fine enough, but nothing in the game indicates that Ike HAS to be the finishing blow for Shinon to survive and join your team.
I was so annoyed when doing my randomised run as I get to the chapter and I can’t pick Rolf. So I go to my last save, chapter 13, redo and make sure to pick Rolf first in chapter 17 and go forward. This time he was one unit spot away from being picked so I just gave up and killed Shinon, he had trash stats and the majority of my army used axes so it wasn’t worth it -_-
Come on, Lex' recruitment isn't dumb. He is just a firm follower of the Bro Code. (That, and if I was Lex, I too would chose every pretext to be away from my terrible, awful family)
@@Vassilinia It's a great reason. Sigurd's reason for mobilizing instead of turtling and sending word to the capital for reinforcements is not far off from that for that matter.
I feel like heather from radiant dawn needs an honorable mention. A female thief that’s in the middle of robbing a town that’s revolting against its monarch joins up with the Crown’s side because she thinks Nephenee is hot. Like, I can’t fault her, but still.
Didn't azel technically leave his home because arvis was acting strange and he was scared , lex is kinda just like hector who joins for their red haired best freind.
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 yh , azel and arvis's father was a womanizer and ended up dying when arvis was six and lex pretty much ran from home cause his dad is corrupt and is a good representation of the corrupt nobles that were in judgral and perhaps may make arvis's entire plan more necessary.
What about the other side of the coin? Characters that should join you that are not going to do that. One example that instantly comes into my mind is every single nohr royal in FE:Fates when you are playing birthright. They have no reason not to help except for "I don't wanna fight papa" despite all of them being ready to fight corn prior and them being fine with the guy going down anyways.
Selena in Sacred Stones was gut wrenching because she was so honest & a great Mage Knight with Bolting (so you had to see her fight multiple times), but she was just too loyal to break rank and commit treason.
I was going to say Eldigan, but that's the point of his character: Being a honorable knight doesn't matter when your king's an asshole. Same goes for Reinhardt, too.
You forgot the best thing about recruiting Oliver: Sephiran seeing him in the army and concluding that this is proof the world is doomed. I'm kind of honoured you used some of my footage for this video. RD, especially Part 4, has so many amazing boss conversations that I really wanted to make videos of them all, it's good to see them being put to use here.
At the very least, Oliver gets to encounter Lekain and neatly showcase the difference between a bad but well-meaning person(which one an argue he'd become after getting he impurities beaten out of him last game, you can tell just by comparing his old mugshot to his new one: he looks far less ugly!) and a genuine monster(basically everything bad in Tellius can be linked directly back to something Lekain did).
I was really confused the foirst time i playes that mission and that happened. Then of course the rest of the throne room garrison thrrw themselves at him til he died. I didnt reload the save since i thoufht that was a scripted scene.
I remember recruiting Oliver my first time... on my 3rd or 4th playthrough, when I was sure I had recruited everyone and didn't bother checking online, I was curious what his battle dialog against Rafiel would be. I cleared out all the other enemies, moved him into range, he ran up and talked to him and the battle was over and I was so confused and couldn't even check to make sure he actually just joined forever because it went to Elicia's army lol
Yeah it's a bewildering recruitment for sure, I had no idea it even existed until I watched a speed run that was paused explicitly to observe this odd recruitment momentarily
I was genuinely surprised that none of the Awakening recruitments were on here because even though it's my favorite game I feel like 80% of the recruitments were incredibly dumb yet kind of humorous
Virion - Simping for a tomboy In the middle of a forest fire AND zombie outbreak Kellam - Has to be recruited despite being ALREADY recruited! Gaius - C A N D Y Panne - Unexplained debt with Emmeryn paid (despite the latter supposedly never seen her people), but still sticks around anyway. Lon'qu - Yo, you kicked my army's ass, have my best man. Libra - It's not gay if you don't know their gender Tharja - Creepy girl simping on the Avatar Henry - LUL LET'S KILL THOSE SCRUBS Gangrel - I wanna die, but since you asked me so nicely 3 times, guess I don't want to die anymore Aversa - Yo, I caused you people lots of suffering, sure you guys want me around
I'm going to defend each one of these poor saps. Roger: So like, Roger is already risking his life to fight in a war, so he might as well be horny while doing so. Not to mention if things pan out well, he just might score Caeda in all this. Iuchar: So like, Iuchar is already risking his life to fight in a war, so he might as well be horny while doing so. Not to mention if things pan out well, he just might score Larcei in all this. Azel: I think it's more like Azel heard that the girl he likes got kidnapped and her castle got taken over so he feels compelled to spring into action so save the girl he loves. In the FE4 manga, he finds a higher reason for fighting than just horny, but that probably doesn't count. Besides, he's going to be by Sigurd's side the whole time so there's no way that anything will go wrong.....right? Lex: Azel being a footlocked mage mean that he's totally not going to make it all by himself. I'm sure Lex realized this. Homer: I can't defend this dude if I'm being honest. I guess he's making it up to Nanna for being horny. Geitz: Geitz is clearly a thrillseeker. There's a lot of other characters who love to fight for the hell of it, and Geitz is one of those dudes. Stefan: It may not be conveyed well, but I think that wanting to create your own society of branded people is a noble enough cause. Why join Ike's army though? It may just be that living in the desert doesn't help him find more branded people all that much (aside from the ones he's already with) and that seeing an army that has both beorc and laguz working together may help improve his chances. Oliver: So like, Oliver is already risking his life to fight in a war, so he might as well be horny while doing so. Not to mention if things pan out well, he just might score a bird in all this. Frost/Malice/Dice: Good things come to those who wait. PoR NPC: Green is kind of a gross color anyways.
To add to your Lex point, he also joins Sigurds side to rebel against his father, because they were usually very distant, among other things. It's a lot more conveyed in the manga tho.
Well to mention the others Stefan looking into his supports (normally don’t support him btw) he would seem to want to find other branded.. and let them know they are welcome in the desert (Like how he does in Sorens support) he is also interested in learning about Gallia due to being a branded... he mentions something interesting which to me states he’s building a home for people who are essentially seen as “homeless” as both Laguz and Beira reject them. Dice and Malice join in BSE due to not really liking the thief’s and like your groups money more (aka bribe em like Beowulf) Frost hates the Macedonian commander for attacking civilians and wants to leave, he notices Minerva and her white wings are close and waits till she is near for his own life’s sake, then joins her
I kind of wish you'd just lumped all the "a cute girl talked to me so yeah I'll go fight in a war" recruitments into one like 30 second segment instead of spending half the video on not even all of them, especially since a lot of the comments are pointing out even more ridiculous ones that would've been more entertaining to discuss than just "haha look at this simp" 5 times over. Also, shoutouts to Heather, who IIRC is the only female case of that kind of recruitment, and it's not even the cute girl who talks to her!
At least Oliver was mentioned, who was the one at the top of my mind when I saw the title. But yeah, there are plenty characters with more stupid reasons than many in this video.
And Lex doesn't like his dad and wants a reason to get away and going to help his friend who is going to fight alongside the family his dad hates is like a triple win.
I still say the dumbest way gameplay wise is Karla. Because it forces you to train Bartre (Which I PERSONALLY would otherwise never do since you get to use Dorcas during Lyn's tale so he can EASILY become stronger than Bartre before the main story even begins) Other than that I'd say the funniest is Joshua. Because he joins Eirika's army because he lost a coin toss bet he made with Natasha (So yeah that's my personal favorite recruitment in the series)
Oh man when I tried to recruit Karla with Bartre he got speed nerfed so hard he had 5 speed at level 20. I honestly think he was so bad that Karla beat him and I had to restart without him in the party so she just leaves 😅
Karlas recruitment is more silly in how it makes no sense(Like, why is she just not there in eliwood mode? The other hectormode exclusive at least has the excuse of being in a hector-exclusive chapter)and breaks lorerelation to FE6(The canonical fight that brings her and bartre together has him dodge an attack from her, then she dodges an attack from him and then he gets beaten up. If he loses in FE7 tho, you just lose him and she ducks off.)
Marcia from PoR. Ike saves her from pirates, and instead of thanking him with either gold or an offer of a fun night sampling the goods he saved, like one might expect, she goes home writes a letter to leave on her bed and deserts her posting as a well paid pegasi knight, stealing a pegasus in the process, to join up with Ike's not very well off mercenary band. With that kind of track record, I expected her to still be with Ike's mercenaries when I first played the sequel game, Radiant Dawn, because no sane leader of a country would hire a former knight with a track record of desertion and theft, and it was his mercenaries she'd abandoned her post to go serve with.
"...sampling the goods he saved" To be fair, she did say something along the lines of "Surely there's SOMETHING a girl like me could do for a handsome man like you~", but Ike was like "lol im dense as a rock" and brushed her off
@@alexanderthomas3187 She actually didn't. One could, if they're very stretchy with the meaning of words, say that there was a hint of a very vague offer for such, but it's so much of a stretch, you're likely to tear something trying. I know because I did just replay that same chapter when watching the video, which is why I even commented about it to begin with, so I think you might just be misremembering. Maybe confusing it with a scene from another game? She does however continuously refer to him as handsome, likely implying some level of attraction on her part.
I know you're talking about Gaius, but that also reminds me of the mercenary Shamir mentions in Three Hopes that, to quote her quoting him "I take my pay... in apples."
@@korinoriz I agree I have always loved her dynamic with Ogma. Can you explain what you mean by ahead of the time? I have not played FE1 or its remake since the wii u eshop release of SD and am a little hazy on her charecterazation. I have also barely played games from that period and do not understand the norm for female characters at that time.
@@codystork3008 she's a female character who's a love interest to the MC and is useful instead of being a damsel in distress she's not really that far ahead of her time though, Samus and the main lady of phantasy star 1 came before (fe1 came out in 1990, Metroid came out in '86, and phantasy star 1 came out in '87) and they were ahead of their time, plus final fantasy 6 had Terra, so it gaming wasn't lacking in strong female leads (though I would argue that FE1 had plenty of characters that were ahead of their time like Caeda (as the comment explains) or Nyna, who isn't a fighter and gets captured a lot but is a huge presence in the story's politics)
@@freetoplayking7362 Maybe she was just "ahead of her time" for westerners lmao. Strong female love interests have been a thing in anime since way back. But what westerners got were damsel disney princesses. Remember how Frozen was treated as "female empowerment" and finally the first Disney movie ever with a strong female character "who needs no man". (Because to these people, Mulan apparently doesn't exist. An no, Mulan did not need a man, the man needed her.)
I didn't think that was the actual translation, cause I saw a different one, but it was never officially translated, so it's hard to know which is right. I wish I had the japanese script now.
I mean in his most recent game he full on had a trans character in his game. Especially for a Japanese game? Hell. It took mainstream FE years until in 3H to have any lgbtq+ representation.
@@milesdavis607 Echoes I would argue would be the first. Since Leon is openly and strictly gay in the narrative, and everyone that knows him accepts that. I guess Heather can count, but that's mostly left to interpretation.
Roger: Try saying no to a girl who runs up to you in the middle of a battle and asks if you believe in love! Marth: As a friend, you are... replaceable.
One of my absolute favorite recruitments in Fire Emblem is Caeda recruiting Lorenz (not the Golden Deer one) in Shadow Dragon. She completely flips the Camus archetype's typical ideology on its head and she succeeds in showing him that regardless of one's loyalty to a country and its ruler, it's the protection of that country's *people* that truly matters.
You know you got a fun character when the protagonist straight up rejects them. Fun video though! I recently beat Blazing Sword and when Geitz showed up and was like “who is right in this battle? Eh, it doesn’t matter. These dudes are closest to me so I’ll just join them.” I was like “really man?”
My favorite will forever be recruiting Rennac with L'Arachel where he basically says he quit, but she won't have any of that and just keeps telling him to hurry up and follow her.
can we talk about how Rennac could have easily just said 'no' when L'arachel forces him to join the army? at least Eirika PAYS him. there is no good reason for him to join the army if L'arachel talks to him
He might know who she is and think crossing her outright is a bad idea for his future. Even when he ditches her, L'Arachel just thinks he got loss, but straight up saying "I'm not coming with you" is a different story.
Rennac is a thief. Being a thief means that, unless he's specifically a kleptomaniac, he just wants to make a living. Being part of a princess' personal retinue... IS a living. He realistically can probably get anything he needs, and most of anything he wants. He may not know exactly what he did to get this, but he does have it. But good lord does L'Arachel squeeze the idea of it being a free ride.
I wanna defend Roger a bit, cause, Caeda is basically threatening him. The leader of the enemy country flies over, parks in front of him, they chat, and then she just leaves all friendly. Either he takes a swing at her or this looks suspicious af. He either rolls with the face turn, or gets killed by his own army. Plus, in FE11 Caeda will probs have the Wing Spear, so swinging's not a great idea.
What's hilarious is Roger did that again in FE12 he's like no my heart is broken .... Then hes like no i must protect her again time to be a simp once more
Some of my favourite recruits to this day are: -Gaius (Awakening), who broke into a palace to rob the place, then hears that he's supposed to kill the exalt and decides to join the other army because he doesn't vibe with that AND because the prince gave him a bag of candy. -Virion (Awakening), who shows up during the beginning of the actual apocalypse to hit on a woman and then just sticks around for some reason?? -Henry (Awakening), who betrays his homeland because he wants to kill more? And apparently he can kill more people on the other side of the war?? (During a support with Ricken he even admits that he's close to half of the enemy army but he just doesn't care I guess?) -My absolute favourite, Sylvain (Three Houses), who betrays his three closest friends and fights against his homeland because the new teacher's hot. -Yuri, Balthus, Constance and Hapi (Three Houses), who have been hiding in an underground city and then out of nowhere decide _not_ to do that anymore because they're bored I guess??
I think that most of the characters outside of the black eagles in Three Houses joining for Crimson Flower is really weird. You talk to them during the war and they're like I don't agree with anything Edelgard stands for, I've betrayed my home country, but it's all because I guess the professor is cool
I think some people like lysethia or Marianne who have really been fucked over by the crest system make sense but yeah some others are very questionable.
@@doomguy676 mostly the blue lions don't make sense. Really the only one that does make sense out of them is Mercedes because she's like protecting her brother or something. But out of the rest of them the only other one I can make a case for is Lorenz
Felix also makes sense to me. He hates his father and doesn’t like Dimitri. Ashe also makes sense because he doesn’t trust the church because of Lonato’s death.
I feel it's more stupid for students outside out of Blue Lions to join Azure Moon than ooh BE and CF. Dimitri at the start of timeskip is at his lowest, he openly states that he only wants vengeance and he doesn't care about his comrades several times, yet eveyone in AM wants him to be a king. It makes sense for the students who have personal connection with him, or have grown up in faerghus kinda bad culture.... but students of other houses still join him because of muh professor. Ferdinand openly criticize him and believes he's not suitable for being a ruler, Linhardt and Dorothea hates the war's brutality. Hilda calls him a mess. At least in CF mess you can argue about Edelgard's goals and some might join her because of that, even though her methods are questionable and it wasn't handled well. Like Ingrid shouldn't be able to join Edelgard but Sylvain and Felix can make interesting "if" scenarios in CF. If someone's goal is opposing Edelgard, it's more logical to join Alliance instead of Faerghus because not only they're the strongest group against Edelgard, but also they're the most neutral group, yet Faerghus and Church both are almost beaten and defeated. Most of students are smart enough to understand that but muh professor I guess.
Literally every member in 3H joins just to simp Byleth actually. It's not that bad though. They don't agree with either side (Edelgard is homicidal, but Rhea is an insane dragon that needs to be put down) so they just trust that sensei knows best.
Honestly, Oliver is genuinely insane, but also arguably the most "good" person on the begnion Senate sans Saniki. It makes sense why he has no loyalties to the rest of the senate, since they used him as a scapegoat in PoR, and surely between games has to have gotten an inkling that the other senators were behind the Heron Genocide and burning of the Serenes forest he loved so much. Oliver may not have a redemption arc, but of all the Senators, he's the only one with even a single redeemable quality, and ultimately, seems more insane then malicious, since his love for beauty is so genuine.
Not to mention he's actually honest and sincere- he means everything he says. It's more than you can say about the rest of Begnion (except Sanaki ofc).
I would argue that Hetzel is more redeemable, because he had the self-awareness to know that the senate was in the wrong, without putting on a pretense of being better than the others. Not that he did anything about it, just went "welp thats unfortunate", but still And although he kept Rafiel as a slave, he did at least let him go free when the Serenes Massacre happened
@@alexanderthomas3187 I'd argue Hetzel's the MOST reprehensible of the senators because, as you said, he had self awareness, and knew what they were doing was wrong, and then CHOSE to do nothing about it. The other senators at least believed they wernt doing anything truly too terrible, but Hetzel knew how evil the actions were, but let them happen anyways. Knowingly doing evil is the most evil action there is. Hetzel is the only one that could never be redeemed, under any circumstances.
@@entothechesnautknight1762 Reading up on what dialogue he has, he comes across as very cowardly and self-righteous after all (although he's at least not a COMPLETE asshole, like setting Rafiel free). I suppose if you were to think of the Begnion Senate as embodiments of humanity's evil, you could see Hetzel as "inaction in the face of injustice". I still feel that the other senators' utter disregard for human rights, international law, etc is more reprehensible (ESPECIALLY Lekain), but I'll agree to disagree. I will at least say that Oliver's a lot more entertaining than the others, so he's got that going for him
Honestly, Roger’s recruitment kind of reflected worse on Caeda when I saw it. She recruits tons of characters but he is the most unearned in my opinion. It’s almost Sylvainish of her to play with his heart like that. You gotta wonder how many guys she just flies over to, hikes up her skirt a little and be like “u free @ 7?”
Honestly it's either that or she and her boyfriend's army just kills them. Idk about you, but personally I would rather getting blue balled over getting killed
I personally find the capture recruitments in FE5 to be the most hilarious of all the games. Like, Lifis is just minding his own business outside his lair and... *_SNATCHED._* And Misha is even more ridiculous because you first have to sleep her so that she falls off her pegasus and then capture her and lug her around for the rest of the map before Karen can finally talk to her.
Well, Lithis kind of got himself into this mess. I don't think it counts as minding your own business when you're having your pirate flunkies kidnap girls so that you can make awkward passes at them. The whole reason Leif and pals showed up to Lithis' lair is because Lithis was holding Safiya captive. Fortunately for him, he had told Safiya that he was willing to fight the empire while he was trying to con her into falling for him, so she vouched for him and he got the option to join Leif's army and *maybe* die instead of going on trial for his crimes and *definitely* dying.
@@imperiallarch7610 Yeah, but there's the fact that he was chilling outside his base unarmed. It kinda gives the impression like he just went out for a smoke break but got abducted
Also Henry's recruitment makes like -200 sense he just shows up and starts making jokes and the whole army be like "UGH I GUESS HE CAN JOIN BUT STOP WITH THE DAD JOKES."
He didn't enlist he was hired. The dumber thing is possibly how Matthew had to remind him he saved his life with food and Guy like ahh crap. And then later he finds out he still owe Matthew 3 others favors for each piece of food he got.
I love how lowkey Stefan is. When I first played path of radiance I got the Vague Katti expecting the rando to come back later but nope. And in RD he randomly pops up to speak to Yune even if you didn't recruit him. Like what???
Stefan is so great; he's basically Zihark if he had been fighting for laguz rights since birth rather than after his partner was killed, and apparently with the bloodline of Soan. He's essentially king of the branded beasts (assuming Zelgius is a branded Dragon right?).
@@halcyon_echo42 I believe it's not been confirmed what laguz tribe Zelgius' Laguz parent/ancestor belonged to, but Raven is the common theory due to his black hair and how much faster he is than you'd expect from a man as tall and heavily armoured as him. While it is once again unconfirmed, it's pretty likely that Soren is actually the first and only branded of Dragon heritage due to Goldoa's isolation.
What really makes Roger's recruitment all the better is when he talks with Marth Marth just listens to him talking about Ceada and is thinking, 'nobody will be mad if I accidentally kill him'
Tellius just has the most bonkers recruitments. Between both of Stefan's recruitments, Oliver's recruitment, and Shinon re-recruitment there's a lot to go with.
I feel the "I betrayed my country and joined this army because of you professor" of 3H should've gotten a honorable mention. Especially for Azure Moon and arguably Crimson Flower. [Long comment awaits] In Azure Moon you have an army of an almost beaten country with a King in a very bad mental state, he openly states that he wants revenge and doesn't care about his comrades, he's also violent. It completely makes sense for people who have personal connection to him to support him (even though wanting him to be a king is still weird), or even for people who have grown in Faerghus' overall not-very-good culture; but I can't see why anyone from the Empire or Alliance to join him besides "muh professor". Ferdinand critizes Dimitri and believes he's not suitable to be a ruler; Linhardt and Hilda doesn't believe in dying for the other person in war even though it's a big culture in Faerghus. Alliance is overall the strongest anti-empire group in all routes after timeskip, so if anyone who want to oppose Edelgard, they would stay there or join them... but well professor. Crimson Flower is a weird case, Edelgard's methods are quite questionable, she's basically a conquerer, but still she has her own goals which lots of the cast can sympathize with her. It would be a interesting what-if situation for Sylvain, Felix, Marianne or Ashe to join her, but then there is Ingrid which her personality is being knight of Faerghus, why the hell she's doing here. At least Lysithea and Lorenz were handled well and there is also some limitations for churchies for join, but still with all of the "muh professor"s it left a bad taste in my mouth.
Though that was a bit of Joshua dicking around and likely cheating in Natasha's favor. Still a case of doing it for a pretty girl, but at least he didn't have any loyalty to his 'side' unlike someone like Roger.
Joshua is a bit of a flirt and gambling addict but he's a kind person when he wants to be. And in his Innes support he shows he's gotten very good at cheating and can easily rig a game. It's very likely he had already decided the pay wasn't worth it when he met Natasha and just wanted to mess with her. And unlike Homer these two do support afterwards and can end up together. His stake in the fighting also gets a lot more personal when his own home land gets involved.
It's also alluded to in their actual supports. When she mentions him losing that one he's like "What bet? Oh, yeah, I uh... sure, lost that one." One of my favorite supports honestly. Simple, straightforward, and isn't unnecessarily trying to be heart pulling. It's just warmth as you get to learn Joshua didn't actually bet her life on a coin and Natasha is a risk taker herself. Completely off topic of the video but on the topic of FE8's supports; holy hell is Seth's monologue in his Eirika A ranked support HEAVY or what? I expected a tragic ending after that whole spiel. I normally don't go for the knight and princess trope but that was one of the only instances for it to take into account class difference on the Knight's side. Normally it's all "But what would other countries think of the princess??" as if princesses in these settings have no other purpose other than to be married. It's clear between the three we know in FE8 that they're much more proactive than they were in our medieval setting.
@@milesdavis607 @Miles Davis Well, he didn't say it like that. He said that he never lose but abruptly said that he lose sometimes so he may or may not have intentionally lose the recruitment bet(but considering Natasha's Luck growth rates she might have also won that fair and square). It's Joshua will strike Natasha down or not depends on her luck that made me think it's kinda bad kind of recruitment. Well I don't hate them. I actually love them after I A support them in my playthrough before considering Natasha is the only one who can recruit him. I don't really remember myself pairing Seth and Eirika in my playthrough so I'm quite unsure of that.
I remember suggesting this idea to you on Twitter once. Thank you for making a video about this topic since the Stefan and Shinon recruitments in PoR made me scratch my head. I know your video is about dumb story reasons, but the Shinon recruitment is so unintuitive from a gameplay standpoint.
"...And because he (Raffiel) is beautiful, he MUST be protected" See? This is how cringie weebs are whenever they say a character (usually of the "loli" kind) should be "protected" unironically.
@@KINGD353 Well first of all, compare how they look. Naesala very attractive, while Oliver is "the pinnacle of beauty". Second of all, Oliver has a lot less of a reasonable motivation. Obviously Naesala is forced into a lot of his RD actions by the plot contract, but his goal of doing everything for Kilvas no matter how cruel/wrong is understandable. He is a lot less selfish than Oliver. Also a big difference between Leanne/Naesala and Oliver/any Heron is that Leanne actually seems to care for Naesala and he for her, as shown by his PoR actions (he betrays Petrine not for Reyson but for her). Where as Oliver would either put his heron in a golden cage or do other questionable stuff. But I think it's mostly because Oliver is hot and people are jealous...
@@thestylemage2092 I see.... i understand alot better now thanks I still can't help but feel like nesala is just as if not more unlikable than Oliver but I suppose that's my own inexperience and biases talking
Part of the thing with the BS FE joins is that they were meant to sync with the Satellite audio drama which had the voice actors explaining such oddities. Emulating ROMs makes you lose some of the context. (It's fairly similar to the DS Shin Monshou versions, though; Frost was being blackmailed by the enemy in the first place and was just waiting for Minerva to get close to change sides, while Dice and Malice are willing to take Rickard's offer, the specifics changing a bit between versions.)
Sheeda's method of flying in the face of some male simp and starting some stupid conversation about love is hilarious. New Mystery even lampshades it, with Kris getting increasingly alarmed at how Sheeda mention them in the base conversations what she said to those units to recruit them.
One of my favorite weird recruitments (this one is from FE:3H, so I understand why it wasn't included in the video considering you're just joining a class and not an army exactly) is Sylvain's recruitment as Fem!Byleth. Oh my God- _he literally simped for her so badly that he decided "Hey! I'll join the hot teacher's class!"._ 🤣
@@lyra2love not hard to forget. He only voiced his disapproval when he shown up. He was there for the loot, not the kill. And for him candy is loot so turning turncoat on people you have no loyalty to, get paid, get sweets and not have to do something you really don’t want to really paid off when it came to convincing him to turn side when you think of it.
The fact that Stefan's reason for joining isn't clear until Radiant Dawn isn't surprising because it seems that the Intelligent Systems weren't sure how much content they were initially going to put into Path of Radiance. Heck, the Black Knight and Zelgius' stats are set to be the same in the first game even though it wouldn't be revealed that they were the same person until the second.
You forgot the best part about Homer. On top of his ridiculous recruitment, he can actually become a great unit with very little effort. FE5 Mage + Paragon = Easily-trainable unit with insane promotion bonuses. He comes with a high Light Magic rank in the very same Chapter where you get Nosferatu (which is a 60-use Light tome in Thracia). And he can also use Anima Magic without issue. That combined with his bonkers 5 FCM means that if he doubles something, it's definitely dead. He's basically Asbel 2, but older and hornier and a bi icon.
The only evidence for this is Stefan's name in the Japanese version: Soanevalcke, which contains the name Soan and thus it is generally speculated that he is actually descended from Soan.
@@samvanderstaak7296 Doesn't it specifically mean Lion's Descendent or somethin' like that? Just looked at his wiki, it's also stated in his artbook that his brand is from a Lion, despite both of his parents being Beorc.