Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 Chassis Broke, here is my honest opinion about the Bike. You can reach out to me for any Motorcycle, Riding Gears or Trip related Queries to bulupattnaik.c... Follow me on Instagram / bulubiker
In 2014 I had 2 options the newly launched KTM 390 duke and second was the classic desert storm. I went with my heart cuz I had been obsessed with RE. Feels bad that RE left such a huge design flaw in the Himalayan 450. Crash Guard or not it is a flaw and RE has to accept it. I upgraded to a 390 ADV last year and have been extremely happy with it.
I have RE thunderbird 350 BS4. Though i didnt face any major issues. But looking at all those videos made me decide i aint gonna buy an RE bike anymore. i am gonna move straight to KTM ADV.
@@_P_T_H_ Here I too owned a Thunderbird BS4 model I faced many problems with wiring and not crossing 80 kmph during certain times. I bought a Mahindra Mojo BS6 and now I am happy with my motorcycle. That Thunderbird was a headache I must admit.
@saurabhtewari9920 I am 56, have had 3 RE products : Bullet (1994-1997), Bullet again (2006- 2016) and Himalayan 411 (2018- 2022). First one was simply terrible and it was belonging more to the guarage than to our parking lot. Second was somewhat better fortunately (purely luckily) and the third one was again replete with all sorts of issues piling up my frustration with RE products (but we hardly had any other option if we wanted to ride other than 100-150 cc bikes then. My father started with 1974 made Yezdi 250, till 1994. I drove it between 1986 and 1994. That was built like a gun and hadn't failed us ever. I couldn't love any other bike more than old Yezdi 250. Last RE product Himalayan 411 made me realise forever that RE is off the shelf for us. Now, we have multiple options, ranging from Triumph, Suzuki, Honda, KTM etc. Now gunning for 2025 KTM 390 for continuing the riding sojourn. No RE again, ever!!!!😡
RE has i am superior attitude they will not accept flaw in Himalayan 450 as they did before for other bikes. People are buying RE because of low price. Actually Chasis breaking is very serious flaw. Just dont buy RE bikes and be safe.
I cant imagine going for a ride on Himalayan 450, and bychance suddenly chassis broke on a down hill lane leading you straight down 500 ft below until you take your last breath and die.
RE is not cheap by any cost... In the contrary it is overpriced. The price of Classic 350 should not be more than 1.5 lakh if quality is to be considered.
I was patiently wait for something to happen to 450 himalayan. And these happen just like pervious bike. Thank God I didn't buy this bike out of excitement. 😊
Thank you, @Bulubiker , for 3:01 highlighting our video . Right now, the bike is at the showroom undergoing R&D, and Royal Enfield is also requesting us to take down the video
Don't take it down bro. Just think like this would you want to know about this if your were about to buy the bike or not? Be like bulu, speak your mind. Don't hide a brands fault.
Until and unless People start to give importance to quality and stop going behind emotions. RE will not change . If any complaints happen we cannot fight against them in court.only thing we can do is to stop investing your hard earned money in Their products. Me too had several quality and reliability issues with My INT 650. If we say Any complaints they will say its common in all bikes. We indians as majority of the middle class and we always look for the best option available in our budget , fall into their advertisement gimmicks and their false heritage selling ads and we compromise on quality. Its because of Honda and Triumph they have at least tried something . Otherwise They still won't bring any improvement. It's high time. we should start giving importance to quality.
Pehla wala jo chassis tuta usme maanta hun ki aftermarket accessories ke wajah se tuta. Lekin dusre wala himalayan pe toh koi accessory laga hi nahi, wo kaise tuta? Uska excuse kya hai?
Thank you for this much needed video. The difference in booking experience is very evident when you go to a RE, KTM vs a brand like Honda. As you rightly said that we need to look at it as a machine and not with so much emotions that the brand might use against us. I'd booked a Himalayan in December and had to cancel it later because the response from the salesman to all the issues pointed on the internet was "Its RE, what to do". I feel RE should realize that they are no longer selling 1 lakh rupee Bullets and Classics alone. Only prices have increased, customer service behavior remains the same.
Triumph ka bhi swing arm toota tha yaad h na...cheezon ko objectively dekhna chahiye....biases pr nhi chlna chahiye koi kuch bhi bolta honoune...or acc to bulubuy only honda....70k re bikes bikti h har mahine...itni unreliable hoti to log lete nhi2.5 3 lakh lagane wale soch samajh kr hi lete h
a motorcycle made for hardcore off road needs a proper cradle chassis below the engine like the Himalayan 411. if the engine is taking all the load instead cradle frame then you need a solid beam under the tank, like the motocross bikes. in case of Himalayan 450, the beam under the tank is too weak . I think this is a serious design flaw and in the coming days and months this will be proved to be true. best of luck to Royal Enfield .
Coneset issue plus frequently failing RR-Unit issue as well. I've ridden my INT650 for 25k kms and within this 3 RR-Units have failed and I'm currently running 4th RR-Unit. First one failed at 5,000 kms Second failed at 11,000 kms Third failed at 23,000 kms First two were replaced under warranty but third one failed after warranty was over hence I had to pay 2,400 rupees for the same. I've got no electrical mods or anything additional installed on my bike ever and RE Service center could never comeup with a reason for this frequent failure.
@@laxmikantgs7863 Regulator Rectifier Unit - It basically converts AC current to DC current and passes it to the battery... If it fails then the battery won't get charged and eventually you'd end up with a dead battery.
bulu bhai, I am also a Himalayan 450 owner, I bought the bike in January this year and took it to Nepal in March, after that I also went to Chardham in June, the crash guard was installed the next day I bought the bike, 15 thousand plus kilometers. My bike is running, I haven't faced any problem yet
Go for HONDA HNESS. Clocked 45k kms no problems at all.Butter smooth bulletproof engine.. zero issues..i ride it fast most of the time but still its smooth till today
RE needs to up its game. I just bought a Honda CB 350 after wanting a Meteor 350 for a good part of a year. RE just doesn't match up to the competition. They are cheap bikes.
Same here brother proud owner of CB 350, went to buy bullet 350 but they had no tubeless tyre and they were least bothered to provide me with it and when i insisted they were charging me 17000rs, so i went to honda and bought CB350.
I had 2-3 very nasty falls on my avenger 220. Crash guard was bent but there was never a scratch on the chasis. RE bikes r definitely of poor quality as compared to bajaj.
I think it's an alloy issue on the frame, they don't know what kind of combination to use for better stress tolerance on chasis they used their normal frames instead of alluminium, steel etc.
This is the main reason I opted for Triumph; RE just making business on emotions and brand loyalty. People should understand RE is a mediocre company, making business only on the basis of emotions; and these Triumph, KTM bikes are manufactured by Bajaj so INDIAN MANUFACTURING IS NOT AN ISSUE, RE is the issue.
Yes u have been saying this for ever. That guy sidharth lal has successfully embedded this thinking into our people that owning an RE makes you rich makes you royal makes you badass 😂 and the crazy part is people actually believe this
Thanks sir for the information. Can you please help me choose between interceptor 650 and Himalayan 450 bike?which is better?or just go with honda highness cb350rs (but low on power)to avoid any such issues?
Hey genius people could have removed the crash guard before taking the photo did you ever think of that? Besides person posting the photo says they used after market crash guard
@@Iam-ix4he hey genius maybe don't install non OEM crash guards or maybe do a proper installation if you are going the custom route 😂 but maybe that's something ktm chapris of the world can't understand
@@Lessspeedmoreweed i don't know what have you smoked, but i will like one too. Oem, aftermarket, whatever it is, why tf would the chassis break? Freaking half assed brains speaking out of their asses.
Thank God I bought the Triumph scrambler 400 x instead. Re hasn't even brought the much promised Tubeless tyres till now... It'll be almost 1 yr now since launch.
Yup most adv riders don't go off-roading, it's just a status thing, tubeless tyres and a scrambler is sufficient for most people who only do City rides and a few occasional highway rides.
Such well informed video. As you're using Scram 400, do you have any recommendations for a crash guard? Is the oem ones good enough to protect the bike and maybe your leg?
🙏🏼 Hii sir, I have a bike like city ride, I want to buy a touring bike which is good for 40%off-road and 60% highway under 500cc (which one is better Himalaya 450 or KTM 390 Adv) please help me sir🙏🏼
@bulu pattnaik sir, Kiran here from Hubli, please tell me about your Himalayan 450 bike, are you facing some issue in Tripper dash screen? I do own himalayan 450 but facing some problem in Tripper dash screen, while riding trip 1 & 2 gets reset automatically, it automatically get troggles up and down.
Royal Enfield is a pathetic company,they doesn't adress customer request and reviews, I had one electra back in 2020 after 500 km it gave me so much trouble and so much headache,had to sell it after 1 year. I'm never going to buy any Royal Enfield product in future nor I would recommend anyone to buy any Royal Enfield product.
I was initially planning to buy interceptor 650 back in 2021 then after test ride it came to my head that this bike will be an issue and went with my instinct and baught 2021 390adv and it’s been an absolute blast last 3yrs and 60km across India with no major issue and still enjoy to day an absolute fun machine. A big namaskaram to RE and their test team , The him450 is new to the market and barely anybody has done 10k km till now but my gutt feeling says once buyers munch more miles on the him450 they will definitely witness far more major issues which can be dangerous as bullu bhai said it’s too early to say but 6months to an year down the line we will see more such issues.Hopefully RE takes this issue seriously in time.
The white royal Enfield had crash guard installed. RE blamed it for the chasis break. But what was the exact reason for this black Himalayan? And are they covering this under warranty?
Even bulu isn’t accepting the habitual design flaw of RE and giving us classes on being fanatic 😂. Basically RE is a plumber brand, a wrench and aluminium pipe and make it sound patpatpat😎 suits RE best. Bulu ur obsessed with RE 😅
Where is the crash guard in picture? If you see the cut portion ,it is symmetric, no bend on the rod.... why? Do you think owner of the bike is in favour of after market crash guard brand and that's why he removed the crash guard before taking pictures?
Hello Sir, i have booked a Himalayan and my delivery date is 25th of June, i have already extended my budget to get one. i will not be able to add more to get Ktm-adv-390. What should you suggest, should i wait or get it, ignoring everything?
Please go for a ktm adventure which is perfect in quality, features and performance! extend your budget a little bit, get the best, and ride peacefully and trustworthily!
I am a KTM 390 ADV owner. I would say buy one. However, keep in mind the what wise people say. Never buy the first batch. So with that logic you will be waiting until 2026 to buy a hassle free upcoming KTM 390 adventure. If not just go for the existing model. The upcoming one will not have tubeless tyres anyways.
Brother I own a 450....it's a gem....go for it....these influencers are all paid and want views.....the bike has disrupted the market....that is why negativity is being spread
I took the test ride of every bike in this category, I have a ktm 250(2022), now I want to upgrade, because for long ride duke250 is not that good, my friend have 390 adv x but the new one will be atleast 4.25lac
It has been too long since you discussed a real and important issue of biker community, really nice to see it happen. Hope to see worrisome issues discussed and all riders clear their emotions by putting some thought. If not everything stays in and there won't be any clarity. Thanku for this thoughtful one.
Bhai 390 ka tank crack ke baare me baat karo thoda. A rider almost lost his life, he couldn't fight with the brand and he gave with major burn injuries. I was one among the people whose tank got cracked within 1 year. Also the 390 Adv still has issues, you just may not have encountered those or you just don't want to talk.
By that logic companies will have to take responsibility of all accidents. Fire caused by an impact is way different than chasis breaking mid way. As an owner it's the riders responsibility to inspect the leakages before hitting long rides. My 390 ADVs metzelers developed cracks. KTM happily replaced those for free even after the warranty ended. However, I lost 3 months of my riding life because I was too cautious about using a bike with a possible hazard.
Hello bulu sir, i have booked Himalayan scram 411 and i am waiting for this bike delivery now i have watched your video and was shocked about this query should i have to go ahead with scram 411 is this bike worth buying in 2024 please give your humble opinion ?
I(owned 2 RE bikes before) don't like RE, still I bought the Himalayan 450 and completed 9.5k kms with touring and offroad trails. will be pushing further. definitely it's not a quality machine but it does the job. now would I recommend it for longer run, NO. would I recommend for temporary fun, definitely yes. but I think this will be my final product from RE. finally getting tired of incomplete product quality.
I owned a RE Thunderbird 500 - August 2013 model - an unreliable bike to say the least. Was never confident of riding the bike even for short distances. Got rid of it in January 2023 and opted for the Honda H’ness CB 350 DLX PRO version. This is now my go to vehicle - it is a pleasure to ride. Reliability and ride quality are heavens apart when compared to the Thunderbird 500. Overall a better bike by miles.
Thoroughly agree with you about customers being not fanatical with brands. The worry today is tata car buyers being too fanatical with their mediocre cars which lack many things. Competition is good for customers.
Cone set and cage bearing problem is the problem I faced in my 411 from day 1 which I bought back in 2020 January.. service centre and showroom didn't gave me any warranty and told me it becomes better with time.. at that time I was a first time RE owner.. but this problem persisted for 2 years.. now I service my motorcycle in a third party garage and I have to say I am really happy.. 200 km rides no problem.. service centres just makes ways for making money from customer and not solve their problems.. so I request other RE owners to find better mechanics outside these fraud centres..
There's extra stress on the right side of the chassis because of how the suspension on Himalayan 450 is setup. One suspension is for rebound and one suspension is for damping (SFF - Separate Fork Function), hence the little twist of the chasis which causes extra stress on that region of the chassis.
Did you remove the crash guard? It is part of the structure. The remaining frame will fail if you remove the crash guard and continue to ride it. This is an intentional part of the design to save weight and reduce seat height and the evidence of this is that it requires a special coupler. This failure has only occurred on two bikes both of which had removed the crash guard.
He will claim anything now. That's the condition the manufacturer might have put to cover it under warranty. The video was also asked to be taken down. Not the owners fault. I would have done the same. Not all are crusaders like Bullu Bhai 🙇
Bulu da, you're the only one who is standing with the customer. All others towed the brand line. The chassis broken bikes didn't go through a crash. They broke under passenger weight. RE cuts corners and they should be held accountable. Great video 🫡
Thank you for being honest brother, even many famous bike reviewers/ podcast shows are supporting the brand instead of understanding the customers pain and what he is going through. Many people buy 4 lakh bikes with emi and loans and it'll be heartbroken for them to see their dream machine breaking down or even causing more dangerous issues within a few months after purchase. Loyal fans only see the perspective of the brand not the perspective of the heartbroken customer. Thank you for viewing this in the perspective of the customer. It doesn't matter which brand it is if there is a fault in the product the consumer must have the voice to point that out.
Most Indian brands suffer from design and manufacturing flaws. Take for example RE, Tata, Mahindra, Hero, TVS, Bajaj etc. Indian brands need to go a long way to compete with international foreign brands to match their superior quality and durability. That's why it's prudent to go for international renowned brands when it comes to automobiles which can give you peace of mind and long term reliability🫰🏽
@@RockyVlogss Tata and Mahindra provide excellent build quality. There's no doubting that. But they face many technical and mechanical glitches in which respect their competitor brands are far superior to them. Brands like Hyundai, Kia, VW, Škoda, Suzuki, Renault, Cïtroen etc. are have superior levels of durability and reliability when compared to these Indian brands.
@@RockyVlogss In terms of building reliable engines no one can match germans and japanese, and tata and mahindra are never successful with lmv engines.
Bulu ji, the reason to follow you is just because of your own actions. Everywhere shouting has started. And here you are, aap aaram se relax hoke baithe ho, aaram se explain karte ho. Aapke baat me dum bhi hai. Jab log yaha tata suzuki crash test ka bekar analysis bike ki chasis pe kar rahe hai aap clarity de rahe ho. Maza aata hai aap jaise logon ko sunke. Best wishes, Bulu ji 🙏.
None of what he said made sense. Crash guards are made to endure hard crash or dragged in case of a fall or crash. Now it act exactly as a crumple zone works in the car. It does not let the impact go to the side pillars of the cars structural design or where the whole weight rest upon. If your chasis snap open without a reason mind you these bikes none of the two had a fall from a staggering height shows poor craftmenship and quality controls of RE mfgr unit. If you bike falls from a significant height let say 6 to 8 feets we might expect that but here the chassis snapped open by rode.above a speed breaker which is outright stupid because its a purpose built bike and not a regular commuter. It's shame that youtubers can not muster enough courage to call out something that is wrong and can potential cause fatal or imminent danger to the life of rider Paisa toh bahut kama loge BULU but kisi ki jaan ki kimaat aapke views or paison se bahut zyaada hai
@@sumeetghai8867 bro do you have experience in engineering? Because most people i see speaking about all this are simply shouting what everyone else is shouting. If you dont know what you're speaking about, i recommend you stop shouting with the crowd. You're only increasing your bp, not my bp, because i ignore all this.
I know 3 cases of chasis break in UCE 350 bikes. Without any crash. There may be more cases like this but we might not know about it. 2 cases we know because it is in social media. When I test ride meteor 350 from showroom it had hauling soud from engine sometimes louder than exhaust that bike was only 14000 on odo. I drop the plan and bought Japanese machine. 😂 I am completely satisfied in it. My another colleague bought hunter it's ECU failed while riding it is 1 year old bike. Also have some bad noise from engine another hunter does not have that noise.
Bought xpulse because I don't want broken chassis bike, I do jumps on sand and asphalt both and my xpulse is still intact. RE is stupid for giving subpar product to customer for high prices.
This particular motorcycle you can see the missing bolt that connects the chassis to the engine. the weight and vibration of the engine without the supporting bolt may have caused the chassis break.
as a mechanical engineer, the intent of RE is to reduce cost of material which affects Factor of Safety which ultimately leads to failure at lower loads.
My Re himalayan 450s Engine damaged internally at shinku La top 31/05/2024 ,brought it down 15km towing by another 6 yrs old ( bajaj Dominor 2018) from there loaded it on camper reached leh,They replaced the engine after 12 days at Venture third pole very disappointed from RE & their customer care services as well as The RSA
I own 450... I want to install the crash gaurd so I'm following this very closely. What I have understood is that crash gaurd in whole is not the issue. Issue is with the bolts comes with it. The strength of the bolts may differ from the original bolts.
Kuch RE fans in sabko defend karte hai...I myself is Himalayan owner after 6k kms cone set problem handle jam and same problem with interceptor quality is never going to be improved in RE..
bhai recently i did goa to ladakh ride with heavy luggage even bike fell till 3-4times and on rummbler we never slow down on full ride and my bike is loaded with gaurds and all touring accessories till now my bike run 12000km and its even hanle black
That's not the point. So many bikes are sold. How many actually break? So many houses are constructed but how many actually fall? You actually get to know about the construction quality only in a perfect storm or earthquake. Same with the bike. The point is that you need to encounter exact same condition and variables to experience the breakage. Which you never know when. It could be tomorrow or after 5 years or never.
@@virajvrooms his chassis has broken because chassis bolt. Was already fallen which hold engine as a stress membrane so chassi has broken at weak point as all the load come on chassi after engine bolt was fallen
@@motofusion1444 Sorry. I might know a tad bit more about metallurgy due to my background. Of course you can have your own opinion. But metals and stress don't work that way like these RE propagating youtubers are discussing.
Bhai him 450 ki clutch plate burn hum thi 1000 km per mene US’s time 2 Himalayan 459 book Korea Rakhi thi issue din mene dono bike ki booking cancel krwakkrr our ktm ke showroom Chala hua our adv 390 book Krdi our 2,3 rides or chuka hua single issue Abhi tk nhi aya and I am happy with ktm adv 390x love this bike ❤️
My standard bullet model 1996 is still strong as ever,not even a single rust on the chasis.quality of plastics have improved but for metal it has decreased.
Good points Bulu Bhai. In my own ownership experience, RE is BAD. It's overrated. Not worth the hard earned money spent. I will always spend more and get a KTM, Honda, Triumph, Yamaha, etc but not Royal Enfield.
Bullu bhai, I own a GT, and I bought GT during the handle wobbling/Coneset issue days. It's been more than 3 years now. Toured with it, and long rides and all. I've never faced any infamous issues usually mentioned with the GT/INT. I've ridden hard as well. So I am unsure if the issue is with the bike(New Himalayan issue) or the accessories bought from Karol Bagh. Abhinav Bhatt has explained this issue very well and it makes sense too.
I saw his video and have been following him from his triumph days. So what others here are saying is correct. He and his colleagues have received the spoked wheeled tubeless version even before those reached showrooms. So I can only imagine.
Idk about other accessories but their helmet is a cheap copy of other good brands helmet. And if you think their helmet quality is good then i guess you are that vega user that comes under 1800 rupees
@Bulu...I will share my opinion...when your bike falls chassi is not directly impacted...but when u install guard than it do get dmg and passes dmg to chasis too...now latest RE bikes guards are connected to critical joins of Chassi which create pressure point on it during fall ..now lets go back to old RE you can clearly see guards been mounted below the critical points with help of external clams and at time of accident guards breaks and absorbs dmg,bends and additionally under join breaks too...which avoids dmg to chasis...trust me i owe std 500 bs3 model and its been 9yrs...i beem doing off roading and long rides even had 1 or 2 accident where guards broken but never had chasi problem
Just because you have never face issues doesn't mean other people won't, ye kya logic hai😂 bikes are meant to be modded with aftermarket parts and the first thing RE people get is a bigger crash guard as mounting point for after market lights. Some bike companies even give after market parts makers their bike before launch so that they can come up with accesories at launch RE is one of those companies... These aftermarket companies make standard stuff for all companies why doesn't their chasis break as well?
honestly mera bike me koi problem nhi hai except valve noise. but mene service center me dikhaya tha ,they said ki its alright . its been 3 months now awaj v kaam ho gya hai. baad baki alright.
RE has had chronic QC problems. The best part is they get away with it easy and out. The problem with RE is of course QC SOPs and probably the fact that they have multiple/adhoc parts suppliers. Buy smart. Look for better & safer options: Honda, Dominar, Suzuki, Triumph etc
I have a 450 . I think no one should buy this now . I’m facing some gear issues . 1st - 3rd loud thud is going on while shifting . In offroading you can’t go incline in 2nd gear . Low end torque issues . And service centre ignore most of the issues . RE helpline is too good but the end showroom and service staffs are not that good . I had the right side pulling of that handlebar from the starting . But the staff told me that is because of wires coming out of the switchgears from the right side of handlebar .can you beleive it
Thanks for sharing. Very few have the courage to do this. I own a KTM ADV and it is not perfect either. People use fit and finish synonymously. I am very happy with the fit/build quality of KTM. Not an issue till date. Finishing has a bit of niggles here and there. Need to keep tightening the nut bolts and keep tieing the wires once in a while.
I would still suggest, whatever bike you are riding, do a complete inspection before going out for any long or heavy ride. There are bikes that are of lot worst quality but still last for years and there are bikes which are lot better yet breakdown. So be a responsible rider and always do a safety check before heading out for tough rides.
Mera dost ka Himalayan ak taraf bhag ta hai woh bhi brand new model hai service center wale bole apko chalana nahi ata nut bolt to girte hi rehte hai bohot problem hai bhai
😂 ye mene bhi dekha hai mere dad ne showroom mein pucha tha ki hunter itni heavy q hai bmw g310r me toh liquid cooled engine hai golden usd hai etc etc fir bhi 10-20 kilos lighter hai toh unhone boldiya hunter zyada power produce krti hai😂 or sabse light bike hai(RE ki)
