Performance upgrade for the Ariel Rider 52v X Class would be sweet. Note - the X Class recently sold out during a sale event so lots of potential customers.
Upgrade for the x class 52v would be great i have been wanting one since they had the jack. Cecil controller i know you can do better than that love your video's congrats on the wedding thanks
I’m so happy that you are offering this kit. I would definitely order one. My bike already have a 52v 17.5ah battery. I been looking for this set up since they made one for the Rad Rover e-bikes. Tell Mrs CitizenCycle I said good job and congratulations, great way to hang in there.
You are correct the windings determine the maximum RPM the motor can produce per volt applied to the motor this is referred to as KV in brushless motors. Therefore to go faster you need to increase the voltage in the battery and BMS supplied to a controller than is designed for that voltage. The extra amps supplied by the new control account for the faster acceleration as well as better hill, climbing power. But those advantages can be limited by the maximum amount the BMS allows the battery pack supply to the controller.
I would love a 40 amp controller for my himiway cruiser. It should run much cooler than maxing out the stock controller especially if it would also function if the hall sensors failed due to heat or whatever else. I know some controllers do not require these sensors to be hooked up. Riding in the woods can really heat up the whole system pretty quickly. I go on multi day camping trips on mine where it would be a long way for this disabled body to walk out for help. I would also be interested in a front hub motor kit to help with hill climbing and pulling through wet and muddy areas off-road. Thanks for all you do here and congratulations on the beginning of the new chapter of your lives together!
Brian - yeah range extender is something I’d want. Have an old AV Soltera that I wind up pedaling home just about every day. Congratulations on your upcoming wedding.
Bryan I think you have both in one right here 1) A range extender, extra battery 40 amp controller and a display. And at the same time you have upgraded performance when using your kit. If I bought your kit I would use it for the first part of my ride and when the battery is just about empty I can unplug the main power lead and connect back into the stock Himiway Zebra controller and battery. In my case I have the KD718 display so I would only need to order the 40 amp controller and your battery. I like the front motor setup as well but the cost will be much greater to change the front forks and order front wheel with motor. As you are not posting overseas I might even give this a go myself. Thanks for the idea. 👍
Most of those fat tire 1000 w bikes have a 30 amp BMS but will still output much more for short Burst and there's probably either a XD60 or Anderson plug underneath the battery mount tray. Usually just a couple of screws 🪛
Congrats Bryan and Ruth🍻 60A waterproof controller for the wired freedom would be great. I did your shunt mod for the wired 2024 freedom it's amazing. Told wired what I wanted to try it, so they sent me over a new controller to try out the shunt mod. Wired is really a cool company sent it over no charge they are the best. Looking forward to your upcoming wired segment😁
Congratulations to you and Mrs Citizen. I would like a good way to carry a 2nd battery. It is not that important that the 2nd battery is hooked up. I can always stop and exchange the batteries. I have several e-bikes and have 2nd batteries for 2 of them. The one I do not have a good way to carry the second battery. The battery is removable but integrated into the frame. If I had a good padded bag that could be strapped to the bike rack that would probably work. I need something like this when I go on longer rides. One more thing the bike is a step thru, so no crossbar.
This is why people go up in volts to get a few more hits per second. Also why high speeds are very inefficient. There are many magnets and only a split second to energize each step. You get 36mph with the wheel hanging only because the hub motor only needs a tiny bit of torque with no load.
It used to be back in the day open territory with parts. Now it’s proprietary so what do we do? Watch your channel. Keep thinking, experimenting and informing. Also all best for making the big decision to get married👍
Business idea for you - make a front motor kit for 20" bike wheels. I don't have the $$ now but imagine a P51 with a front motor! Love the range extender idea. Congrats on the upcoming wedding.
@@CitizenCycle925 or consider something built around Truckrun FW29/RW29 motors. Geared hubmotors actually built for 1500w each. You can get them on Alabama, but not aliexpress. And they are very inexpensive. For someone putting together kits, these would be a good product to get behind. That could change of course. With increased popularity, they might jack prices. Or competitors might start building higher powered geared motors.
Definitely make an upgrade controller for the Himiway cruiser. My KD 718 controller went out and I'm back to the Himiway display, which tops out at 28.6 MPH and the motor is definitely not topping out. The KD 718 gave me 32.5 in pedal assist 7. I believe that's what it does to boost the speed. I cannot get 32.5 with throttle only, but ya make the controller and I'll buy one for sure and throw it into the mix
I don't have much to say since ActivityPhoto explained it so well, and your motor will naturally draw less power as it reaches it's KV rating. The workaround is field weakening, but you need a controller that supports it, and field weakening does not play well with battery blenders. Too bad we are not neighbors... I could whip up any adapters you need! When you use the stock battery, you need to pay attention to the wire gauge coming from the battery and the controller. They only make it as thick as necessary, and on my Radmini for example, they used 16 gauge wire and it almost melted during my early days of experimentation!
Definitely aventon and himiway range extenders! Aim for like 2 to 3 time longer on throttle only if possible, because we already know that the pedal assist will follow!
Once the bike is up to momentum and you are no longer accelerating, it requires less current to maintain speed. Less current = lower wattage. This will happen at any speed you settle on.
Good video! You should remind people that their battery's BMS might not be able to allow for 40A discharge (usually that is getting close to the limit of run-of-the-mill stock ebike batteries)
wow so much in these great ebikes! and seeing you have fun with it is good to see. I have a couple Favoto ebikes a discontinued fearless step over [its a fun one](maybe? a copy of the early Himi cruiser? maybe?) it has a 750 W Bafang hub motor thats fine for me. I like slow low impact trails and dirt/gravel roads (Im in North Idaho) and the less traffic the better. my Cur is at 20 on the display & has a mediocre/stock controller that Id like to swap out to around 30A ? then run cur about 25 or so. my hope is to make it a better grade 23% climber as it is its ok, but falls out on the 20+ % grades. my other is the flurry 2.0 750w hub mother same battery and a 22A controller same 48V 14ah battery. it does much better on hills & goes up grades to my surprise. its display Cur is set to 20A the flurry is still being sold & looks like a himi also. [the quality of these is a nice surprise to me] in the future I might get a better brand ebike, But these are my 1st ebikes and I see they might be made into something a little better (?) speed is not my great concern as I ride trails & top speed of 20 is fine for me. Id like a better climber. my average putt along is 11 to 14 mph (I like to look around) the journey to me is something to enjoy. kinda want to stay 750 watt and be accepted on USA trails, just to look good ;) feel free to email me as Im wanting to upgrade these & maybe convert my mtb bike with a mid drive. ;)
Make a Kit for the Aventon Aventure 1. These bikes have more to offer than what the stock controller provides, plus owners of the Adventure 1 and 2 have been restricted recently because of sneaky firmware update
If you built a kit to upgrade my Aventon aventure (1.0 version) to a 40A controller using the existing display and PAS system, I would definitely buy it. Even if I had to switch out the display, that wouldn't be the end of the world either, especially if it gave me more control on how I want to set up my bike. As long as the throttle still worked and the PAS system still worked, I would be all in.
I would like to see a power upgrade(plug n play) for Aventon Adventure 1st model. I'll check back. I bought an extra battery for range but it would be nice to have more acceleration n power to hold my own on the road with cars a little betterer.
The controller had nothing to do with the motor speed. In a no load situation, motor speed is voltage driven. A better upgrade comtroller in this situation would be Fardriver. You can get one that will handle 80a for about $100 shipped. Its also programmable. On virtually all prebuilt bikes, you're working with geared hub motors. These come with plastuc gears, which wear quickly and fail if you try to put too much power through them. If you want to go much over 1000w, you need to either change the gears out, or change out the motors. If you want higher speed, you need to increase your voltage. Basically, if you want to build a fast ebike that will last, start with a bare frame, because you'll be trplacing pretty much everything on it. Cheap mods to go fast can be fun, but remember that it can only go fast in short bursts. Try commuting at 35mph, and your battery will sag badly, you'll probably burn out a controller, and geared hub motors will need the gears replaced regularly. TANSTAAFL
E bike ideas. Brakes shutoff should be okay to operate both controllers from one brake shut off. Front and rear 5 volt is 5 volt. Worth a try maybe? 40 amp controllers Great idea make both the same and change fuse in Himiway to 60 amp. Other bikes unknown. Operate front wheel at PAS 1 all the time and a low setting and then will help off the line a bit more and you can add power when needed. Change displays to both the same for rear and front drive. Volts 48 to 52 back and front will work great. Or 48 and 48. On Himiway I found a 52 or 48 volt 15 to 20 amp battery that is a triangle bag and looks like it would work on the Zebra. On Amazon. Thanks for the great shows. 75 years and still ride.
just received the new Wired bikes yesterday. I will start filming tomorrow. should have a video out this week to go over all the major changes, and there are some big ones!.
@@CitizenCycle925 yea , cant wait, spoke to dan today he would only tell me (A little on the performance side as well as something we think everyone really, really wants. ) cant wait. thanks for the reply. take care and be safe.
I have a Juiced Ripcurrent S model. It has the 750 watt motor. It would be nice to have a upgraded controller. On the new 1000 watt juiced bikes you can get the upgraded controller. My buddy has the Juiced 1000 watt motor with the upgraded controller and he always leaves me in the dust.
I want to upgrade kit for my walkie H6ST Max. It already has a 28 amp controller but I want a little more oomph. The problem is the original controller has a 5-pin throttle/horn combination and that would have to be swapped out also. It has an 1121 motor connector and a xt90 power connection.
Any chances of a 1000 watt rear hub motor? Yes I would be interested in a 40 watt controller and of course plug and play. Thank you for being so inventive.
My stick Zebra does 28 mph with me on it. Im 210 lbs. My son, at 130, can go 32 on flat ground. It would be interesting to see what this upgrade would to.
We need 60V batteries and 40+ amp controllers and 1000 W motors for upgrading . The controller experiment increases torque but the speed will come from higher voltage batteries. So, upgrading the controller only will disappoint riders looking to increase their speed.
I can make 60 V batteries 40 amp controllers and 1000W motors, no problem. the issue becomes are you gonna spend a $1000 to add that kit to your existing bike. And then what do you do with your 48 V battery that's integrated into your frame...? A controller upgrade does increase speed for bikes like himiway and Aventon that have their throttles limited.
Congrats Bryan! Great video! 👍 I have a couple questions. Does the pedal sensor also work with that controller? What is that adapter called? Whats the name of the end on the motor? What the name of the end on the controller? If you need xt60 for the battery, simply cut the wire and solder xt60 or any other end to match. If you use dual motor you will surely get 37mph or more.
Maybe you should sell a rear motor,controller and screen kit for the common fat tire bikes to work with their integrated battery's. Mainly aventon aventure 2 bike. I have a level 2 and aventure 2 bikes. And I have a 24 wired cruiser and just with the other 2 bikes could match its power.
You should make a good rear kit. A good geared hub will dominate The mid drives on the trails, but you would never know it. There's only a handful that have enough power down low, and as far as kits you can buy, there is only the thousand watt bafang with a 30a controler, that kit is awesome on the trails but that's the most powerful one you can buy in a kit, and I very rarely see them for sale anymore. DIY geared hub motor kits aren't available.
@@CitizenCycle925 the electronics of the ghostcat, with a 190mm or 175mm option, in a kit, 52v optional, and it would be even crazier if you had the options to use different motors with it.
I have an M2S All Terrain 750 step thru and have been trying to find a plug & play controller to upgrade to! Stock is 25a. I would LOVE IT if you could help with modding those bikes! The 750w Bafang motor on those is custom wound for top speed, so they’ll get to about 30mph on flat ground, but they lack the pickup and low end torque in my opinion. If I could fix that issue, these would be fantastic bikes! If you aren’t familiar with M2S out of N Carolina (I think) then please check them out and see if we could mod them!!
I would be interested in your front wheel kit if it were for a 20 inch wheel, specifically for a Megacycle Ocelot. And I would like to replace the controller to get rid of the auto-cruise control -- I hate it.
Nice job, himiway focuses on long rang bikes . So they use the 22 Amp controller in most of there bikes . But myself I like the speed . I'd like to see you up grade a D7pro mid drive . And a cobra updated with a thousand watt motor . It comes with the same 22amp controller ?? Also what model display are you useing in this video.?
I am wanting to blend the stock 48v and the 52v with your kit using a batery blender . I would like to see you blend the batteries with your kit for range
I am now starting to love the extra power. I have a meelod dk 300 max. I would love to know if I could upgrade the controller. I know my controller is a single 44 amp powering both motors. Do you know if this bike could handle a bigger controller? I would love to buy a more powerful controller and a nice bigger color screen that mounts in the middle. I love your videos. I bought 3 different bikes from watching your videos. Keep up the good work!!
I would like a traxxas Explorer I have already bought the front wheel kit but I definitely want the traxxas Explorer rear motor kit I have been looking for one I don't mind swapping out the wiring harness
Love your videos!My question is what bike that's affordable I can use for just riding to my deer hunting lease? 500-1000watts that can go up hills good?
