Hip Rafter & Scarf Joint ~ Extension #28

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James and Ian have made much quicker progress than Roger thought but he arrives in time for the hip rafter and scarf joint.
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@iantarncarpentry4285 2 года назад

Oh man, what a blast I had working on that roof! It was only one and a half to two years ago I would of been petrified of working on roofs, but reading up and gaining knowledge along with working alongside James and Dan and constantly asking questions has given me the confidence I need! Thank you lads, and thank you SkillBuilder!

@Ultimate-roofing-square. 2 года назад

It’s sure looking good Ian. 👊🏻

@iantarncarpentry4285 2 года назад

Thank you Daniel! I’m not quite at yours or James level yet, but getting there, slowly. Haha!

@thetallcarpenter 2 года назад

Its great to watch Ian, and very honest and humble of you to acknowledge those around you that have helped your skills progress👍 The whole thing looked gorgeous to me, and credit where its due to you boys.😎

@jimichip 2 года назад

Don’t play yourself down mate, you’re a quality carpenter and it’s all recorded on here for everyone to see. Plus if you were rubbish then we wouldn’t still be working together 😂

@simonRTJ 2 года назад

As a person who had to become, out of necessity, a competent amateur builder, with a room in my house literally dedicated to a library, shelves of literature for 1700's to modernity, I haven't learned as much or as quickly from watching you Ian, Dan, James, Robin and of course Rodger, than I have practically from reading those books, as non professional builder, I cannot tell you fellas how inspiring it is to watch these videos and admire the care, professionalism, consideration and passion you all have for fine craftsmanship, and each other, I have spent 30 years pursuing those same craftsmanship levels in the film industry as a sculptor and painter in the FX game and I did not expect to see the same level of craft in the construction trade. You have given many the confidence and raised the bar of quality we should all expect. you certainly have inspired me to "Do it right once" Thank you for being so generous with your knowledge.

@brianroscoe239 2 года назад

Great job guys, I was eighteen in 1957 wow doesn't time fly, ex joiner, but I still like watching good tradesmen, and i could watch these all day long.

@ttfweb1 2 года назад

No over-cuts on the birds mouths - you are indeed building a piano. Very nice work.

@markosborne5510 2 года назад

Sure the owners of the build watches the videos to appreciate the top work you are doing.What’s the opposite of Cowboy builders👏

@thetallcarpenter 2 года назад

You know what I'm going to say about this video guys🤔 Absolutely love it🤩 Everything looked great and the hip dropped in sweet and the jacks looked fab🤩 Cheers

@iantarncarpentry4285 2 года назад

Thank you TC 👊🏻

@andyb3331 2 года назад

Top job boys - you lads seem to have a great chilled out attitude - perfect for a happy site.

@giovannip.1433 2 года назад

This is how they should teach math to some kids at school - you can see the angles and feel it as opposed to words and numbers that some people can't relate to real life.

@Brian18741 2 года назад

Love a good scarf joint 👍

@denty32 2 года назад

Although I have done hundreds of roofs, I find it so therapeutic watching them being constructed. Well done James and Ian 👏👏

@flyingjackcarpentry9394 2 года назад

What is it about roofing carpentry that we all love? I'm a chippy/General builder but if it was up to me I'd primarily focus on roofs. I mainly get second fix type work, which is okay, but I always have the impression that I'm only there coz the customer doesn't wanna buy their own tools. When I do get a roof its mainly bog standard lean-to types. Nothing complex and interesting.

@iantarncarpentry4285 2 года назад

There is something special about roof construction! Of the many aspects of Carpentry pitching roofs is just amazing! And you’re absolutely right, therapeutic too. Hope you enjoyed the video👍🏻

@denty32 2 года назад

@@flyingjackcarpentry9394 I don’t know if I’m honest, I just love roof work, minimal tools unlike 1st/2nd fixing. I think for me people leave you alone when your on a roof especially when you are doing barrels or curved ones which is probably why I enjoy it so much.

@thetallcarpenter 2 года назад

@@denty32 I think you could be bang on the money here Denty. No fancy expensive tools for most roof work. Just a circular saw and few other simple tools and some brain power. Outside and left to get on with it👍

@denty32 2 года назад

@@iantarncarpentry4285 love the scarf joint yous done, some people make them out to be a piece of wizardry when really it’s a few measurements and 3 lines.

@TM-jw7ic 2 года назад

Pleasure to see quality tradesmen

@robertbamford8266 2 года назад

“Not bad”. Skills, attitude, and attention to detail. Just who you want on your project. Thanks for the video.

@bigshoe9130 2 года назад

Love watching masters work their craft.

@iamTylerEllis 2 года назад

This was a pleasure to watch

@AndrewFroude 2 года назад

Great job for not only cutting a great scarfe joint so well firstly but then doing it in the air!

@paulkelly2882 2 года назад

That background music really good, suits the content very well

@davidwills6640 2 года назад

Beautiful roof construction that James and Ian.Real attention to detail and the Festool saw looks like it cuts like a dream .

@davidelliott5843 11 месяцев назад

This is where the "proper" equipment really shines. Those cuts would look good on an oak cabinet.

@loges536 2 года назад

Carpenter from Wellington, New Zealand. This is some very very taste work boys. Unreal

@malcolmfunnell4501 2 года назад

Proper and honest video , it’s not easy cutting a roof , when I do it the extra fire wood is the only bonus after all the swearing

@phalimmaguire6069 2 года назад

Great video lads , you chaps look very relaxed and not stressed at all , very interesting work.

@Ultimate-roofing-square. 2 года назад

Very neat work chaps. 👏🏻👏🏻. P45, I’ll get my coat.. where’s Stakker…

@stakkerhmnd 2 года назад

Hello my friend.

@Ultimate-roofing-square. 2 года назад

@@stakkerhmnd greetings.

@m4inline 2 года назад

Watch ya bass bins im telling ya

@kevinbowden1155 2 года назад

Great videos once again skill builder. Struck gold with these boys. 👌

@SteveAndAlexBuild 2 года назад

Where’s James..... ? skiving and letting Ian do all the work 🤣🤣. Dan the man not even there but making sure that roof is spot on 👌🏼 Did someone say Forgefast 🧐🤨 😆 Lovely job as ever chaps a joy to watch 👌🏼🧱👍🏼

@Ultimate-roofing-square. 2 года назад

😳👍🏻

@SteveAndAlexBuild 2 года назад

@@Ultimate-roofing-square. 😉😁🧱👍🏽

@shaunglendinning 2 года назад

Love watching the team work! Very educational and of course enjoyable. Thanks a ton, looking forward to the next one.

@lazylad8544 2 года назад

Great bit of work there gentleman. Top quality as always. And Rodger too with his camera skills. That joinery takes a good bit of thinking about its not easy is it lads.

@jimmybrown9349 2 года назад

I now live in Queensland Australia. I put an Extension on the rear of my house. Cyclone Straps & Plates on all Rafters fixed to Top Plate, Cyclone Rods on the sides of openings & corners through the Top Plate holding the Roof structure on. Ply Bracing on Corners + metal bracing (Hoop Iron) across the Rafters. I am always impressed with the Job James does. A true all round Tradie. All the best, cant wait until the next update.

@charleydavidson69 2 года назад

Love watching your videos. Great craftsmanship is alive and well.

@davidguenther8170 2 года назад

Are all the commentary British? I'm from across the Pond. Carpenter for 40 plus years. Don't they have a job pricing scheme over there called Cost Plus? That would be the cost of materials and labor, plus a specified percentage for overhead and profit. It's written into the contract so the builder is protected from price increases and if the price of material goes down, (as if), good for the client. New subscriber. So far, I really like these videos.

@jeffyoung321 2 года назад

Beautiful job guys.

@Frieslick Год назад

Masterful work. Great to watch. 👌🏻

@ukpipeline 2 года назад

Fantastic content, really enjoyed watching. Great weather too… not like today…

@chekymonkey4452 2 года назад

great job men looking good

@arfabarmcake2776 2 года назад

Excellent tradesmen 👍

@ewetoobblowzdogg8410 2 года назад

You're some pretty hip guys!

@chrisprintall1408 2 года назад

Very impressive skills

@george-1961 2 года назад

Master builders 👏🏻

@michaelplays2449 2 года назад

Great video, Great skill !!! thanks for the video

@stakkerhmnd 2 года назад

Skill Builders.

@davidbrown3699 2 года назад

look like they take pride in their work good joinery work

@dave1secondago 2 года назад

great vid enjoying this build

@JamesParus 2 года назад

Great episode!

@skf957 2 года назад

Nice work one and all.

@dougsaunders8109 2 года назад

Great video again chaps. Nice to see pro’s smiling when something fits Bob nuts on….. I thought it was just this DIY monkey 🙈. Just takes me 10x as long to get it done. I would starve to death unless some Wally took day rate 😆

@daviewilson_1 2 года назад

I defo need to get one of those roofing squares

@iantarncarpentry4285 2 года назад

Hello Dave. The roofing square is an amazing piece of kit, definitely get one! You can download an App. Too when combined together it makes roofing a pleasure! Hope you enjoyed the video 👍🏻

@0000kris0000 2 года назад

Great job! I love a bit’a roofing, especially on a nice timber frame 👌🏻👎🏻

@jasonantigua6825 2 года назад

Hello boys! Hope you all have a lovely weekend :)

@roysammons2445 2 года назад

Rodger wasn't born 1416, it was 1418. Cheers guys great job 🙂👍🏻

@SkillBuilder 2 года назад

Why is it you never send me a Birthday card or even flowers for that matter?

@roysammons2445 2 года назад

@@SkillBuilder I have a terrible memory 🤣

@tinytonymaloney7832 2 года назад

Brilliant 👍👍👍 Why isn't there a metal guide or template for that ridge joint??? Or have I just given some one a good idea and they will be a millionaire next week???

@indigo50003 2 года назад

good idea that, Im going to make one now :D

@RobNorman08 2 года назад

Why would you need a template? thats why we learn our trade, so we don't have to rely on a jig to do the job for us. the size of the joint is also dependant on the depth of the timber being used, any proper carpenter will have no problem laying out a scarf joint like this.

@RMMaryport 2 года назад

@@RobNorman08 chill out pal

@georgeturner6648 2 года назад

Did you take a separate mortgage for the cost of the timber!!!. WTAF is going on with timber price and supply?

@flyingjackcarpentry9394 2 года назад

I'm gearing myself up to ring around all the jobs I have booked in to tell them I can no longer honour the original quotes. Prices of materials are beyond stupid. . The last two weeks I've been working for less than nothing a day simply through rising prices. A simple feather edge fence I priced at just over £600 only two months ago came in at just under £1500. I cannot afford this. I'm not one of these RU-vidr tradesmen that get away with massive prices. If I'm not competitive, I don't work. The world they want to build back better doesn't include small independent tradesman. Especially the kind of demographic that the trades predominantly make up. Good luck lads. I'm not feeling very optimistic.

@stakkerhmnd 2 года назад

Which RU-vidr tradesmen are "getting away with massive prices"? I think I should become a RU-vidr tradesman if what you say is happening. That fence price, was it for just one side of the fence at £600? Because if you do both sides it will be £1,200.

@PERKINS4107 2 года назад

Yes indeed....I completely agree - this current material shortage/price increased situation is fucking crazy!!! I have been in the trade (carpenter) for past 27 years and have had a Travis account from the start. This week I bought 8 number lengths of 2.4 x 4"X2" and 2 number sheets of 18mm shutter ply and cost over £165!!!!! 😱 - total madness!!! - feel like giving up for 6 months: telling Dr I'm stressed and getting some of the money I've spent years paying into back!!!

@m4inline 2 года назад

Same deal here in central europe for what its worth. Materials prices going up weekly. Not just by pennies but like by tens/hundreds percent.

@gdfggggg 2 года назад

Just tell the customer the prices have gone up 🤷🏼‍♂️

@bluevanmani 2 года назад

Totally agree pricings gone mad and showing no sign of slowing down. At the moment people have money to burn coz they haven’t got anything else to spend it on wait too next year people will rather spend their dollar on a holiday rather than have non essential work done.

@acornbuildinglandscapes1765 2 года назад

James what do you think of that hitachi gas nailer? Much difference to the paslode? Great job as always 👏

@jimichip 2 года назад

Thanks Jake. The hitachi nailer is ok, maybe not as sleek as the paslode but it does the job for a reasonable price.

@nickhaley4663 2 года назад

Good looking work boys, and without taking anything away from you there are a few things that struck me. Attention to detail is one things and your cuts and joints look great, but they dont need to be great they just need to be good. There is a thing called allowable tolerance and on a roof the tolerance's can be greater than when your're hanging a door for instance. The mitre saw will make really accurate cuts but it's not the tool for cutting a roof, it's much much slower than an experienced chippy with a skilsaw. Birdsmouths on 6x2 can be cut right through without using a handsaw, the overcut will have no detrimental effect on the strength of the rafter, likewise if your cut's aren't perfect, it doesn't matter, it's a roof not a front door. Scarf cuts look impressive but a ridge can be joined with a simple angled cut, nailed or screwed with maybe a splice on each side, simple and quick and perfectly acceptable. I'm not saying you should be rough but it's hard enough making a job pay without wasting time on unnecessary details.

@TheToolnut 2 года назад

That's not house bashing, those lads are top notch craftsmen and charge accordingly. They can take their time and do it right because the price allows for it.

@Frieslick Год назад

Be able to do it both ways; and when you’re making a video, do it this way.

@geoffreyholmes1172 2 года назад

When cutting a scarf the end cuts should be backed off not square cut, this enables the scarf to lock in when the wedges are driven in old chippy

@SkillBuilder 2 года назад

You are dead right and we did discuss this very point on the day. On the next one the angles will be cut back so it locks in better.

@bornwild3955 2 года назад

Hello buddies thanks for sharing I got a question: the verticals are 4x4 right ?

@jimichip 2 года назад

If you’re talking about the verticals on the timber framed building that are forming the walls then they are 6x2.

@rossmcleod7983 2 года назад

5 x. Other than that, top job as per.

@millwalltopboys 2 года назад

Was waiting for the broken hip back down onto the lower roof line :(

@jimmybrown9349 2 года назад

Oh I forgot to mention: All fixings are on the Drawings And have to be Signed off by the Certifier when the Frame is inspected.

@Goodwithwood69 2 года назад

I'm on the roof from hell! 9 hips 5 vallys, pitched to flat, cranked steels to get over, out of square, different wallplate hights, average hip length 5.5M ! Pack up and come help me !

@haydnbrewer7426 2 года назад

How did you get on with the roof?

@nicksmith7612 10 месяцев назад

If you measure rather than calculate your hips then…Cut a block of timber the same length as your HAP, butt it up with the edge of the wp on the corner and measure down to that (rather than the wp itself) thus gives you a much more accurate measurement for the length of your hip. Also if you mark both sides of your ridge plumb cut onto one side of your timber (2 plumb cut lines 45mm apart when using a normal treated 2” timber) then you can cut both cuts of your double bevelled ridge cut without flipping your timber over simply by flipping the bevel on your chopsaw or passing from the other side using a circular saw … still saves you flipping the timber over and therefore time

@clivehurdle2274 2 года назад

Can you tell me where you got your rafter square from please keep up.the the great work .Clive

@SkillBuilder 2 года назад

Hi Clive It comes from Essentil Carpenter Tools www.essential-carpenter-tools.co.uk/ There are more videos on our channel showing it in use Just go to the home page and click on the Dan Cox Playlist

@clivehurdle2274 2 года назад

@@SkillBuilder thank you I have my 12 inch Stanley square with the movable arm but it's getting a little old tired .

@nialstewart8263 2 года назад

Guys, I know you're working but can we have a bit more detail, like how to work out the angles to cut when forming the roof joints?

@43bikeguy 2 года назад

Looking at all that timber in emvy, getting hold of it is getting harder and much more expensive, when will it end?

@flyingjackcarpentry9394 2 года назад

When being an independent tradesman is no longer viable. The new world the moneyed powers are building back better has no room for independent 'small' businesses. Get a job packing orders in an amazon wage cage while you still can. I wish I was joking.

@flyingjackcarpentry9394 2 года назад

We are going full on "carbon nuetral". What do you think that means?

@stakkerhmnd 2 года назад

don't worry, it grows on trees!

@TheToolnut 2 года назад

You will own nothing and be happy, or else....

@arfabarmcake2776 2 года назад

Is that a 240v hammer drill ?? Should it not be 110v ??

@jimichip 2 года назад

We’re ok with 240v on domestic work.

@vinopit 5 дней назад

i am guessing on this roofing square common and hip values are equal only whe the hip rafter is placed 45 degrees from common rafter. right?

@SkillBuilder 5 дней назад

No the hip is always a different angle because it travels further. The reason you dial in the same angle as the commons is simply because the square works out the difference

@danielcookeb90 2 года назад

Might there be more ' content ' in the next video Roger? Felt a bit like a filler vid if I'm honest. Scarf joint was nice to see, even if the ends were not locking each other in. I'm watching skill builder to pick up knowledge and understanding of all aspects of renovation. Keep up the knowledge train! 👍👍

@SkillBuilder 2 года назад

Hi Daniel We have lots of videos showing all the details so it is difficult to know how much we should repeat on this series. In the end we are ploughing the same furrow.

@danielcookeb90 2 года назад

@@SkillBuilder Thanks for the reply Roger. Must be difficult getting others to give you their time, when they are clearly on a job site. You might have a million questions, but you clearly don't want to get in anyone's way. Tough spot. Pay no attention to me though, keep on trucking, I'll be there to watch them every time. Love the channel. 👍👍

@paulnutter1713 2 года назад

where did you find the left handed sandvik, all mine are rh?

@jimichip 2 года назад

Ian can turn anything ambidextrous.

@fergalhopkins1230 2 года назад

What kinda hammer Ian's got???

@JACKATTACKED 2 года назад

👍

@stakkerhmnd 2 года назад

My mate works for the council.

@angusbrown8707 2 года назад

Good

@Ultimate-roofing-square. 2 года назад

Road sweeper?

@stakkerhmnd 2 года назад

@@Ultimate-roofing-square. When I say "works" I mean the council pay him. No actual work involved. Sorry for any confusion!

@stakkerhmnd 2 года назад

@@angusbrown8707 Do you work for the council?

@madgebishop5409 2 года назад

the Style Council?

@davidwebb2318 2 года назад

07:34 Hard to believe that timber is a structural grade!

@Hengry-hn7rb 2 года назад

I like the way you guys work , but here in the States especially the south. The other builders see you using & impact or sliding miter saw to frame a house or addition. They will let the roof fall on you😬

@SkillBuilder 2 года назад

Rafael What you say is very interesting because it chimes with what some of our other American viewers say. It seems that in America there is an undercurrent of rigid conformity that is reinforced with low level intimidation. If a guy wants to wear work trousers (pants) with pockets on the outside he will be laughed off site by all the guys who think you have to wear regular jeans. Similarly the 'mafia' comes out in force if you are using the ' wrong' tool or driving the 'wrong' truck. If this is the case then it is similar to communist countries and seems to run counter to the spirit of "The land of the brave and the home of the free".

@davidguenther8170 2 года назад

@Rafael I built in the South US, specifically Cashiers NC, and on all the jobs I worked, no one laughed at a carpenter because of the tools they used, as long as the work looks good. ( Although my crew used to snicker a bit when I pulled out my Ryobi cordless tools 😂, because they all had Makita or Milwaukee.)

@stevehenke678 2 года назад

Wheres Ian from, I recognize the accent?

@iantarncarpentry4285 2 года назад

Hello Steve. I’m Cumbria. A little place called Appleby.

@thegastricbricky5734 2 года назад

How come you don’t seem to do any work with robin anymore have you gone you separate ways Thanks

@SkillBuilder 2 года назад

Robin left Skill Builder and started his own channel. We helped him set it up and gave him a kick start and it may be that James and Ian will also have their own channel soon but they are still keen to work with Skill Builder.

@jamienelson7544 2 года назад

Aup where's dan there's a roof happening, at least there using his his roof square.

@vinnysurti 2 года назад

I’d tell you a joke about the roof but it would be over your head

@stakkerhmnd 2 года назад

Did you think of that yourself? Or just copy and paste it from a website! hahahaha!

@johnfithian-franks8276 2 года назад

I would get very confused working with you; you keep changing from metric to imperial and back again. I can work with both types of measurement but not in the same build

@stakkerhmnd 2 года назад

Congratulations STAKKER for making the FIRST comment!

@strongstories3183 2 года назад

What are you all about man ? Just got too much time on your hands ?

@SkillBuilder 2 года назад

@@strongstories3183 To ask what Stakker is all about is like trying to grasp Nietzsche in a single reading or see beyond the sunflowers in a Van Gogh. It takes time and patience and if you have neither then close the book and dwell in darkness. The exemplary human being must craft his/her own identity through self-realization.

@stakkerhmnd 2 года назад

@@strongstories3183 Hello lc h, Hope all is going well. A good question which many a classical philosopher has pondered through the ages. Immanuel Kant (1724-1804) examined your question from an epistemological perspective, yet many feel it wasn't entirely answered definitively. For example, Kant postulated that, "Genius is the ability to independently arrive at and understand concepts that would normally have to be taught by another person." Are you a genius? Considering you needed to seek an understanding of STAKKER it could be suggested that you aren't a genius. The latest philosophical research suggests that it's not actually possible for a mere mortal such as yourself to comprehend such aesthetical matters like "What are you [STAKKER] all about man?" To answer your second question, one could ask "Have you got too much hands on your times?"

@philipmwarabu4686 2 года назад

"Using it the African way"????? As an African I"m not sure how to take this? Is it 'African' because it's 'backwards' and Africans are 'Backwards'? James? or, is it because Africans don't have hospitals so don't use tools correctly to minimise injury?? Roger? Either way - it cuts backwards like RACIST JOKING to me! Such a shame. I was a subscriber. I believe anyone can enjoy learning new skills, yes even Africans, and learn how to use tools correctly. I believe no builder in the UK started out knowing what they were doing but had to learn it and that any person of colour no matter where they are can also 'learn' the same skills! Perhaps it is implied in British builder culture that skill builder and diy is really only meant for 'white men'. God forbid Africans and black people in general and women start thinking they too can learn! Racist Jokes are unacceptable. You have lowered my expectations of the Skill Builder Chanel. I wonder what percentage of 'builders' in the UK think this type of joke is 'banter'?

@jimichip 2 года назад

Hi Philip, I’m sorry that you have been upset by that comment. It wasn’t a joke at all, I was told by someone many years ago that in Africa they use hand saws the opposite way around to how we use them and I have seen footage of it too. It was a genuine statement of what I believe to be fact. Nothing else.

@TheToolnut 2 года назад

Dry your eyes man, the lads were taking the piss out of the Irish as well. All in a Day's work, a bit of banter and some slagging, 👍🔨🇮🇪