The other aspect is the knees sitting flush with the elbows so that hip positioning is maintained and the tension is still in the hamstrings on the ascent up.
just want to give my 2 cents. hip raising is not always bad. if it is raising because 1. you start lower than optimal hip height, your body will adjust to optimal position by tilt forward. in this case knee will NOT travel back too much and little energy will be consumed. by doing this you could avoid start with your hip too high. so I think this kind of hip shooting is okay. 2. you lack quad or hip extention strength, in this case, whatever height you hip is at, your hip will always shoot up and knee travel back before bar leaves floor, because you need your lower back to compensate the lack of strength.
@MoMo-oq6xw, thanks for your comment! I understand your point, and if the hip is just a bit low, it might not affect you too much, especially at lighter weight. However, the hip shooting would be more pronounced if the bar started off too far from the midfoot. Based on my observation, a few things might happen there, either you are pulling with an additional moment arm from the bar to the hip (thus making it harder), or the bar would start swinging away (the shoulder is like the center of rotation for the bar). Again, the degree of impact might differ depending on other variables during your pull. Our main clientele are general population without much experience doing barbells. Most beginners seem to pull with the hip too low, thus the video. However, rather than setting too low to prevent too high of a hip position, setting it exactly right will be more efficient. (Again, no additional unnecessary moment arm, plus more efficient force transfer) I have seen that many lifters and coaches attribute certain "form breakdown" with weakness in certain muscle groups or movement functions. I am not very sure about this. Maybe we can exchange thoughts about this. What do you think is lacking when the hip is shooting up too much? Is it from weaker quads or weaker hip extensors? Thank you! ~Marvin
@@hygieiastrength I agreed with you bar should always start midfoot. but it is a different issue from what we are discussing here. in my original comments, first senario is usually caused by too much knee flexion hence relative low hip height. I also use this "technique" because I feel this can recruit more quad when I start, at 85-90% 1RM my hip will shoot up a little to the optimal position. But I never felt significant pressure in lower back if I brace well. I think as long as you don't sit back too much before start you should be fine. in terms of the form breakdown, which is the 2nd senario in my comments. I think mostly come from weak hip extensor with CORRECT TECHNIQUE. OR, it might be not caused by muscle weakness, for some beginners, they don't know how to push the floor away, aka use the quad to start the lift. They recruit very little quad and try to extend hip at very begining, this will lead to hip shoot up and lower back compensation, in this case it is a technique issue rather than muschle weakness.
Becoming great at deadlifting means......... you are good at deadlifting. I saw no benefits for my every day life apart from a sore back. No thanks. Get great at squatting and everything takes off, the difference is night and day.
