Hiring Manager, Who Was Perfect Until You Googled Them? 

I mean it's on his bar record meaning it was while he was a lawyer.

I think a non-violent felony should drop off one's record after 10 years being clean. Too often people are labeled for life with that big fat "F" on their record which severely limits their future job prospects.

@@mayorb3366 It's disgusting how criminal law stigmatize (even after comply your punishment) to the point of becoming an obstacle to successfully re-enter society. It literally push people into their wrong past ways again.

it saddens me how few people are willing to give chances to a convict. Yeah. People fuck up. I have worked with many people who did and turned it around and they work much harder than the perfect no record people because they know that reputation keeps them one misstep from a firing. They also want to escape that reputation. I also knew plenty of people with no record that i would not trust.

@Filip Nikolic but still, people who are trying to the their lives around and can't because of the american justice system, it's not fair to them. Look up Christina Randall or Jessica Kent on youtube. Listen to their stories, how they've turned around with no help, and how there are things they can't do because of their past. You've made mistakes, but you've been given second chances. Convicts deserve the same. Now, I am not saying that if they continue to break the law they deserve grace, but they deserve the chance to do good for themselves

Dang good for you catching that

Same deal, had the perfect candidate. I was being pressured by my boss to hire him ASAP, but I noticed a 6 year gap in employment. This was back in the mid 90's when background wasn't so easy to find on a person. A co-worker had a brother who was a private eye type guy. It cost $350 but we found out the dude was in prison during that time for moving coke. He plead out taking a deal from the court by naming names, otherwise he'd been in 20 years. I hired him anyway. No, I didn't. (LOL) Probably would have been a great employee, but you just cant take those chances with someone who has keys to the safe.. Later in a different company I hired a guy who also did 6 years in state pen for moving pot. He was one of the best people I ever hired.

Glad you dodged that bullet

I don't get it why didn't you just run a normal background check on her?

Yeah. I understand diddling without consent or kiddy diddlers but if someone does drugs like 10yrs ago they most likely changed.

I hope the hiring manager goes to Purgatory for at least a few years for being a snob against a drug user

It said it was a bar incident, he did it while he was a lawyer. Good job they didn’t hire him.

How about just....don’t break the law if you don’t want the consequences?

@@sakuraogami6885 ah yes, if you try a drug and get clean you automatically lose all rights to employement for the rest of your life

Yeah, I remember reading drug dealing is like any other business, except you better have some good instincts or you’ll die.

I can understand that, depending on the definition of "violent". In California, there are some remarkably violent crimes that the state classifies as "non-violent".

Gotta own it lol

Was that the guy who openly admitted to running a weed operation? I saw that and wondered what happened with that.

I don't. Legit dealers ruin lives. They don't give a shit that the H they just sold probably killed a lifer this time and ruined a family.

They love the cocaine they love the cocaine

They aren't allowed to start until before they are hired.

No shit. But doing coke, no problem. Caught carrying coke?, problem.

I've been to 1 party thrown by lawyers for new lawyers. That was the only time ever ever seen drugs in bowls like candy on the coffee table laid out for guests... I lived in San Francisco for 5.5 years and had many "movie" real life moments, that was one of the first of them.

Thought it was cannabis until I saw the "keep his nose clean part"

It's because the prison system in each countries are different. Even different crime can put you in different terms and prison.

I think prison is just where people go for adult "time-outs". I doubt anyone is really being rehabilitated. Prisons also don't offer medication or therapy, and many convicts come out of prison worse because they have a chance to meet other prisoners, and they end up committing crimes together.

Yeah I think most people with common sense know that prison does not rehabilitate, nor is it meant to, in the US at least. The idea is the prospect of prison prevents crime (which it obviously doesn’t lol). I do believe some people should be imprisoned, and are beyond rehabilitation. However, sending drug addicts to prison is not conducive to solving the problem. Yes you read those stories about “how I hit rock bottom and got clean.” This, however, is a very unlikely outcome for most addicts, especially the ones that are smart enough to avoid capture. Yes, there are high functioning addicts. Of course, this could all be prevented pretty well if poverty was properly addressed. More often than not, people turn to drugs because they hate their life. This means that the largest risk factors are poverty and mental illness. This has been demonstrated in many, many studies. Now consider how many other crimes are committed because of drug addiction, and imagine how many of these crimes wouldn’t happen if we had proper rehabilitation facilities. Once again, I don’t think prison should be abolished, but it should be downscaled and the money should be invested in smarter, preventative measures. It baffles me that people struggle to grasp this simple concept. P.S. inherent evil is something that stupid people use to avoid examining a problem

@@Idontknow-vm1iy stupid people or those who greatly benefit from a lack of change. Why move the mountains that we made when we can charge some to go around them and the rest to struggle under them.

@@matthewbrooks5470 very true

I wonder if he even remembered what the hell happened. Depending upon what he was on and how it affects people, and in particular him (because drugs both illegal and legal have different effects on different people,) he may not have recollection of what occurred. In which case, being surprised is completely understandable.

I remember a political issue where he's innocent because he was unsuccessful.

@@cmorris9494 wow.

@@cmorris9494 BRUH

You married the right woman

Yeah he shouldn't be able to get a job anywhere!! Cast him to the streets where he'll be more likely to offend again!

@@tobiramasenju6290 Where he goes homeless and gets arrested!!

@@PeppermintSpikes in some places being homeless is tantamount to breaking a law. However chances are he'll just offend again. So more scarred children.

@@tobiramasenju6290 And then he will be arrested for offending!!

"His inability to keep his nose clean" was literal, dude. He must have been into coke pretty deep for it to have caused problems at work and led to him having a disciplinary record =\

Bit stupid to say that and not listen to the whole story.

They didn't have a say whether he would be hired or not.

it was a forgone conclusion at that point, but with how no sell the actually hiring manager was it likely wasn't a long past mistake or was a recurring issue high stress endears one to find easy escape and it'd been hard drugs before and now was a higher then average chance of hard drugs again

The "would" is conditional on him not having a coke problem. But he did, so the actual candidate would not have been a good addition and therefore wasn't hired

Ha!!

oh, i've heard of a videogame called "James Pond"! the main character is a FROG!

@@ericb3157 is it's name james?

Damn that's so shitty I'm sorry to hear that

What is your name tho?

doing coke? nah Caught with coke? yah

This can depend strongly on the position and the crime, though. I'm fine with hiring violent offenders as security at sites where they just watch cameras... and I've turned away people from call center jobs where you can see customers' names, addresses, phone numbers, partial SSNs, and occasionally have to take a credit card number over the phone if they have fraud or identity theft convictions.

Life would be a lot easier if people weren’t fucking dumb & didn’t break the law.

@Sakura Ogami who are you to call someone dumb??

@@Jwebb-zh9gj if you commit a crime and then cry about it you’re dumb.

@@sakuraogami6885 I stand corrected. My may be more naive than dumb. My bad

* biological

I agree!

It sucks that your father abandoned you, but my thoughts on this situation otherwise depend entirely on what happened with the rest of the family. If his parents and S.O. were horribly emotionally and/or physically abusive, and he had a breakdown or was in serious fear of his life, I could see it being a reasonable thing to do. It's terrible if that's the case and you were a victim of it, but almost any man taking a child from its mother (no matter how abusive she may or may not be, either to her children or her S.O.) without leave from a court of law will almost assuredly be thrown in prison for it. Yes, this includes him being the father and saving them from things like attempted infanticide, even if such things have thorough proof. (The US "justice" system sucks, especially for men.) So...yeah. Again, it sucks that you were a victim of it, but maybe there are genuine circumstances that make it reasonable that you aren't aware of? Maybe people you think you know (or knew) were lying to you. It's happened before. Or maybe your father really is a deadbeat jerk. Still, I'm sorry you had to suffer, whatever happened.

I agree. Back in the day, I had a savage coke problem of biblical proportions…lol…however I was able to get over it and have managed to live a normal and productive life. Well… mostly…lol. Just because he made an error in the past doesn’t mean that he’ll continue to do so. Furthermore, from the narrative I gather he had recovered from his issue. If he was still a coke head, they would know. You can tell a coke head a mile away.

Yeah this is why I drink pepsi

When applying to a law firm there's always going to be someone whose credentials are just as good who has never had a coke problem. So you can always just hire them instead

That's fucked up, I really hope you won't have to go through shit like that in the future. I wish you the best of luck!

Im pretty sure with a past like that regular drug tests would happen and the way he used it to his advantage shows his ability to turn a negitive into a positive and be able to make anything sound good Wich is a good skill to have.

As i read this it happened

The Only Thing that Matters, is that he Thinks he is Living in the 80's, So if we was Born in the 1950's It Might have been A Different Story;)

It looks bad for the firm and their lawyers I guess if they hire someone who after passing the bar broke the law

@@Alex-jg2bc Yeah It is an Unfortunate Circumstance!

Yeah, drug addiction is not a moral failing. It's actually legally classified as a medical diagnosis. A person with a substance use disorder or addiction is a protected citizen under ADA and to discriminate against an otherwise qualified candidate solely on the basis of "not keeping his nose clean," is illegal a f. You know what's not a good look for a law firm - discrimination against a sick person. 😕 Maybe OP, and apparently many commenters here, need to come down off their moral high horse, rethink their petty little biases, and learn the actual law.

@@Maystarr749 you would think lawyers were aware of laws?

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Its a bit funny for me. Thankfully I use my full name on my resume and applications, because there's an African American football player with the same first and last name as me. For the record, im a short, Caucasian woman. Thankfully his Wikipedia page lists his middle name, which is nowhere close to mine.

So do you like the public records system and data brokers for allowing you to do that?

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I'm guessing that he did something really serious or illegal (or seriously illegal) to be blacklisted.

Why did he have to stay for three months?

@@samlynx2016 it's been a while, I think it was due to his "secret" being found out by non management, so they waited out his 3 month probation then let him go for a different matter. Even though he lied on the application, my old boss said he wasn't allowed to let him go for that.

YIKES 😱

Having a record in general makes it harder to get a job but I get your point

Yis

90% I’d say.

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You can check state data bases: FDLE . They list sex offenders, rapists, child predators.

Depending on the circumstances, murderers shouldn't be forgiven either. Now, I dont mean someone who clearly had a mental breakdown or who got into a heated argument and things got out of hand. Or even someone driving under the influence, granted they got help. Im talking someone who planned a murder and felt no remorse bc someone took their parking spot

Yeah I hate the public records system and don't get why more people aren't upset about it.

Literally this.

Depends on what the original job is, some jobs like in financial services in my country you have to get permission to have a second job (to prevent insider trading, etc.) Literally written in law. Also, reputational risk for a company is a big thing - like, regulation states you should not get a bad reputation and the company can get into shit with the regulator. It can also threaten the employment of everyone else. I get not demonising sex work, but it is not always that easy.

Ikr

Eh, they were using company resources and company time for an activity that, while I agree it should be de-criminalized, is currently illegal in most parts of the US. It'd be totally different if writer had arranged a "date" online and discovered "oh crap, that's my co-worker!", but I'm fully ok with reporting someone for running an illegal business operation out of your workspace.

@@mmaldonado10123 Sex workers could get a lot more help if they were legalized. A lot of the harm that happens to them is directly influenced by the fact they cant get police help

Save up, buy necessary things etc. Just use it responsibly

@@mrbaeman39lolman60 yes. Saving is important, especially since money doesn't just grow on trees

@@chrishill4141 so what's growing in my backyard- I was pretty sure the man in the alleyway said it was a money tree-

I can buy stuff for you my little tree

Chris hill I hate you

What is amway?

@@gremlin_078 The Amway mentioned in the video is an MLM (aka vaguely legal pyramid scheme) that sells "health and beauty products" (in quotes because the stuff these MLMs sell is infamous for being snakeoil bullshit). There's a great Last Week Tonight episode that explains what MLMs are and why they're such a problem if you're interested in learning more.

@@awesomecat42 thank you!

I'm guessing with enough research, anything online can be traced back to you

@@badandy102 not if you used fake name fake facebook account fake youtube. why do you think my youtube name is 'Eye Bee Bak' not Donald Trump.

@@eyebeebak Well, you might want to rethink that. If you have so much as emailed back and forth with a FaceBook account holder, big brother knows who you are and where you live. Even if you don't have a FB account. If you have a smart phone they know where you are at any time, even when it's turned "off". Trust and believe, Big Brother is here. No one can hide.

​@@mayorb3366 I'm not using fake accounts to say or do illegal stuffs. why would Big Brother go after me.

I'm willing to put up with that kind of blunder if it means he'll stop saying "Teal Doctor" and replacing any word starting with "ass" as "behind." Can't even count how many times I've heard "the behindistant manager" or "behindumption."

Someone with the same name as me and lives about 30 mins away from me has a colorful record. I’m upfront about it and since I am ex military I offer to do fingerprints. Just google your name a few times a year so you know what shows up and can be prepared to talk about it at the interview

Exactly! I hate data brokers, date miners, public records and all forms of privacy invasion! Why doesn't this bother more people. I'm like the only one that made a video on this stuff on my other channel.